Poor unfortunate fella

Heckler

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/10-000-for-accident-prone-man-in-ninth-personal-injury-claim-1.2881096

Heartbreaking calamity after calamity.

How he soldiers on is an inspiration to me anyway.

Theres no compensation that will ever ease his pain of eating horse meat. The 7,500 might get him a few proper beef steaks.

Heckler

Heckler wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/10-000-for-accident-prone-man-in-ninth-personal-injury-claim-1.2881096

Heartbreaking calamity after calamity.

How he soldiers on is an inspiration to me anyway.

just read that. my blood pressure rose almost as fast as my insurance premiums.

Noveight

In July 2010, he also initiated proceedings against Homebase House and Garden Centre Limerick after an incident involving a defective toilet seat. He was awarded €20,000.

20k for catching a bollock between the seat and the rim.

Atlantic Dawn

He should watch some of the UK tv channels, there's another round of solicitors who will check that the claim you previously received was correct and will claim on your behalf if there's any additional money you are "ENTITLED" to.

Armchair Andy

And the worst of it is the law actually allows this to happen. He's not wrong (except morally) , the law is.

Ted111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPd67CEL54E

Atlantic Dawn

Armchair Andy wrote: »

And the worst of it is the law actually allows this to happen. He's not wrong (except morally) , the law is.

No not the law but the insurance companies, if they went on the full offence with all these claims it would kill the majority of them in months, none of the scammers would be willing to go bankrupt over it and no solicitors would go no win no fee if they knew the insurer would actually investigate the claim.

Klonker

How the hell did he manage to get €7.5k for eating horse meat? What exactly was the compensation paid for? Where did he suffer?

Anyway this man is a joke but it's the law system here that allows him to make a living out of this.

Ted111

Klonker wrote: »

How the hell did he manage to get €7.5k for eating horse meat?

The whole thing was a night mare.

Summer wind

Reminds me of Del Boy's uncle Albert falling down the holes 15 times.

wil

I've been utterly traumatised by reading that.
Who do I sue? Anyone know a bad lawyer?

Vic_08

wil wrote: »

I've been utterly traumatised by reading that.
Who do I sue? Anyone know a bad lawyer?

No doubt a certain apologist for our esteemed legal profession will be along shortly to tell us that we are not qualified to have an opinion on such cases and that the lawyers and judges are above reproach. I am sure he can steer you in the direction of a well respected individual who is nowhere in the vicinity of the back door of a van based HSE vehicle.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

A prick of a human being. We're all paying for his "accidents" in our premiums. F**k him. The price of my car insurance has almost trebled on me this year...it's financially crippling me for Christmas as it's literally due today.

Wanker.

The judges in these cases should seriously take a look at themselves too.

"you poor unfortunate man, here have another 10k"

Ireland.

Atlantic Dawn

The unwell claims peoples from road accidents should be moved to Spike Island until they get well.

Widdershins

There has to be something more than meets the eye in these situations. Judge remarks he's been well compensated in the past, the media are there covering the extraordinary story yet the money is awarded time and again...
I wonder if some repeat litigants like that have some people over a barrel somehow

Arcade_Tryer

NO SPECULATION

Thoughts and sympathies are with the victim. Get well soon.

NIMAN

I honestly can't see how the judges aren't getting more of the blame than this guy, after all we know there are people like him about, looking for a quick buck instead of having to work like the rest of us, but surely the highly educated and powerful judges are doing us all more harm with decisions like these?

hydro1

NIMAN wrote: »

I honestly can't see how the judges aren't getting more of the blame than this guy, after all we know there are people like him about, looking for a quick buck instead of having to work like the rest of us, but surely the highly educated and powerful judges are doing us all more harm with decisions like these?

They want him out of the court quickly in case he has another accident lol

Optimalprimerib

Waterford whisper try their best, but sometimes the true stories are the funniest.

HellSquirrel

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

NO SPECULATION

Thoughts and sympathies are with the victim. Get well soon.

Court case is over, so far as I know, it's fair game to be discussed.

I'm usually pretty willing to give the benefit of the doubt, especially for one-off cases, and trust the court case has looked into it (there are a lot of claims rejected that never make the news, we just tend to hear about the ones that make a story). This guy is either actively under a godly curse or really good at spinning a yarn.

Although given the number of car accidents he seems to get into, maybe he should be taken off the road for everyone's sake.

JustAThought

Anybody know the name of his laywer(s)

HellSquirrel

JustAThought wrote: »

Anybody know the name of his laywer(s)

Vinny Slick of Bent and Oily Law Associates. Very popular guy.

Archeron

Widdershins wrote: »

There has to be something more than meets the eye in these situations. Judge remarks he's been well compensated in the past, the media are there covering the extraordinary story yet the money is awarded time and again...
I wonder if some repeat litigants like that have some people over a barrel somehow

What's the odds that the barrel will collapse underneath him resulting in a back injury and some cooper being dragged into court for shoddy workmanship.

IrishZeus

"He has been well compensated in the past”, Judge O’Donohue added as he awarded Mr Lynch €10,000 and legal costs.

This sums the problem up perfectly I think.

BattleCorp

Are these the cases that actually went to court and where verdicts were given? Does this list include claims settled outside of court.

andekwarhola

The amount of car accidents in that period of time. Surely this is actionable in some way?

In December 2010, he sued a woman with whom he was involved in a road traffic incident. Mr Lynch was awarded €20,000 plus legal costs.

This one stood out for me. :mad:

myshirt

It's called 'nuisance value '.

While the case may be vexatious and frivolous, as long as it is not to the extreme you will get this 'go away' money.

Plain fact is the only people with access to courts in this country are those with loads of money, and those with none. I drop a guy eyeballing my wife, I have to lay him 12 grand. The same scumbag who hasn't done a tap of work in his life kicks the **** out of a pensioner and gets 4 months in jail at the taxpayer expense, and pays no 12 grand, because to award it would be 'good money after bad ' as it is known.

razorblunt

The current event sounds serious enough though, it was a hit and run, unless they're alleging it was setup?

Reminds me of one of those Channel 5 "benefits" shows, where some lad was going around looking for things to fall over, except he was openly telling the tv cameras he was doing this. He wasn't the brightest lad.

Winterlong

Is this him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JggkF7jsi78

Widdershins

Archeron wrote: »

What's the odds that the barrel will collapse underneath him resulting in a back injury and some cooper being dragged into court for shoddy workmanship.

I can see it Most people I know would be afraid of the stress and expense of going to court and making an enemy of local people/businesses! Or even worried about the impact of a compensation payout on the individual or business. I know they have insurance but still

mahoganygas

Klonker wrote: »

How the hell did he manage to get €7.5k for eating horse meat? What exactly was the compensation paid for? Where did he suffer?

Willful neighgligence.

Widdershins

I don't understand the horsemeat one..they would have opened themselves up to a flood of claims, surely, since many people ate the products

Nidom

Yeah I'm a bit puzzled too, doesn't make sense

languagenerd

This is why I think compensation should literally just compensate you for anything you lost. Hospital bills, lost wages for days you couldn't work, whatever it costs to replace your car if it's damaged, and obvious future expenses in the serious injury cases (if you could never work again/needed home renovations for a wheelchair etc).

There is no logical reason why hurting yourself should equal lots of money just because. And the rest of us pay it through our skyrocketting premiums.

Red Kev

Klonker wrote: »

How the hell did he manage to get €7.5k for eating horse meat? What exactly was the compensation paid for? Where did he suffer?

Maybe he claimed the horse kicked him?

ballsymchugh

Klonker wrote: »

How the hell did he manage to get €7.5k for eating horse meat? What exactly was the compensation paid for? Where did he suffer?

Anyway this man is a joke but it's the law system here that allows him to make a living out of this.

as far as i can remember, he never claimed to have eaten horsemeat, he just sued on the basis that he may have unknowingly eaten it. there's no way that it could be proven, but the poor lad was severely psychologically traumatised. the payout is cheaper than defending it in court.

pilly

This is why we are paying through the nose for every type of insurance. And small businesses will be closing down soon because of the costs of public liability.

suicide_circus

I would refuse him admission if I owned a business in the area. Sorry pal, can't afford to have you as a customer.

Widdershins

suicide_circus wrote: »

I would refuse him admission if I owned a business in the area. Sorry pal, can't afford to have you as a customer.

You might be sued for discrimination!

HellSquirrel

myshirt wrote: »

It's called 'nuisance value '.

While the case may be vexatious and frivolous, as long as it is not to the extreme you will get this 'go away' money.

Plain fact is the only people with access to courts in this country are those with loads of money, and those with none. I drop a guy eyeballing my wife, I have to lay him 12 grand. The same scumbag who hasn't done a tap of work in his life kicks the **** out of a pensioner and gets 4 months in jail at the taxpayer expense, and pays no 12 grand, because to award it would be 'good money after bad ' as it is known.

For the bit in bold, I'd bloody well think so!

True on the second statement though.

soups05

to put this in context, i am 45 years old. In the past i have been hit by a car door opened on me while cycling, had a car pull out at a junction and hit me on the bike, injured my back in work while moving large,heavy wheeled boxes, had a woman drive through a stop sign and hit my car.

some would label me as a serial scammer judging by this thread except for a small point....I never made a claim for any of them.

others would call me a fool for not laying down and screaming for a solicitor and then an ambulance.

My point is that some of us are just born unlucky, everyone here can have an accident, some will claim,some won't. But those of us who don't claim should not label those who do as scammers. A judge in each case awarded compensation, we cannot say it was not deserved.

There are plenty of cases where a person gets a large payout for an obviously BS claim, hit out at them, but having more than one does not equal scammer.

If I was in the market for a payout then I would have plenty of opportunity. How many times has anyone here jammed om the breaks to avoid a twit running a red light, or pulling out at a roundabout? if we did not slam on but hit them instead, they are in the wrong but does that mean we don't claim?
They pulled out, but we have a responsibility to the nation as a whole to help cut down insurance rates so we should just suck it up and move on? I wonder how many here would really not put in a claim if they had a genuine accident.

in order to be totally honest I will admit that I did make one claim, two years ago an idiot hit the back of my car while stopped at lights. I injured my back,shoulder and neck and he drove off without exchanging details. I missed work and college and put in a claim for compensation. Still waiting to hear back as my solicitor seems to be really slow. its my only claim so am not even sure how long it should take.

now given the whole story, am I a scammer? do you think I should just drop it? or am i "entitled" to some money?

Klonker

soups05 wrote: »

to put this in context, i am 45 years old. In the past i have been hit by a car door opened on me while cycling, had a car pull out at a junction and hit me on the bike, injured my back in work while moving large,heavy wheeled boxes, had a woman drive through a stop sign and hit my car.

some would label me as a serial scammer judging by this thread except for a small point....I never made a claim for any of them.

others would call me a fool for not laying down and screaming for a solicitor and then an ambulance.

My point is that some of us are just born unlucky, everyone here can have an accident, some will claim,some won't. But those of us who don't claim should not label those who do as scammers. A judge in each case awarded compensation, we cannot say it was not deserved.

There are plenty of cases where a person gets a large payout for an obviously BS claim, hit out at them, but having more than one does not equal scammer.

If I was in the market for a payout then I would have plenty of opportunity. How many times has anyone here jammed om the breaks to avoid a twit running a red light, or pulling out at a roundabout? if we did not slam on but hit them instead, they are in the wrong but does that mean we don't claim?
They pulled out, but we have a responsibility to the nation as a whole to help cut down insurance rates so we should just suck it up and move on? I wonder how many here would really not put in a claim if they had a genuine accident.

in order to be totally honest I will admit that I did make one claim, two years ago an idiot hit the back of my car while stopped at lights. I injured my back,shoulder and neck and he drove off without exchanging details. I missed work and college and put in a claim for compensation. Still waiting to hear back as my solicitor seems to be really slow. its my only claim so am not even sure how long it should take.

now given the whole story, am I a scammer? do you think I should just drop it? or am i "entitled" to some money?

Of course a person can be unlucky but this guy claimed compensation for eating horse meat, he is a scammer.

Widdershins

soups05 wrote: »

to put this in context, i am 45 years old. In the past i have been hit by a car door opened on me while cycling, had a car pull out at a junction and hit me on the bike, injured my back in work while moving large,heavy wheeled boxes, had a woman drive through a stop sign and hit my car.

some would label me as a serial scammer judging by this thread except for a small point....I never made a claim for any of them.

others would call me a fool for not laying down and screaming for a solicitor and then an ambulance.

My point is that some of us are just born unlucky, everyone here can have an accident, some will claim,some won't. But those of us who don't claim should not label those who do as scammers. A judge in each case awarded compensation, we cannot say it was not deserved.

There are plenty of cases where a person gets a large payout for an obviously BS claim, hit out at them, but having more than one does not equal scammer.

If I was in the market for a payout then I would have plenty of opportunity. How many times has anyone here jammed om the breaks to avoid a twit running a red light, or pulling out at a roundabout? if we did not slam on but hit them instead, they are in the wrong but does that mean we don't claim?
They pulled out, but we have a responsibility to the nation as a whole to help cut down insurance rates so we should just suck it up and move on? I wonder how many here would really not put in a claim if they had a genuine accident.

in order to be totally honest I will admit that I did make one claim, two years ago an idiot hit the back of my car while stopped at lights. I injured my back,shoulder and neck and he drove off without exchanging details. I missed work and college and put in a claim for compensation. Still waiting to hear back as my solicitor seems to be really slow. its my only claim so am not even sure how long it should take.

now given the whole story, am I a scammer? do you think I should just drop it? or am i "entitled" to some money?

I *could* have made claims many times. I always wonder if I'm a fool, when I read these threads. I personally think he is much too quick to claim compensation, though.

If you don't mind me asking, did you get his license plate number or was there camera footage? As the same happened to me but I didn't.

soups05

no licence plate, no camera footage, in fact I had written it off as tough luck but I had to visit my solicitor for another reason and she noticed my bad back and asked what happened. Before I knew where i was a claim was being made lol. Something to do with MIBI covering hit and run accidents. am no expert so check the motoring forum.


I was not quiet clear in my last post, yes this guy is most likely a scammer, but I am annoyed that anyone who makes any sort of claim these days is viewed as a scammer. There has got to be genuine cases out there among the many scams.

Sue Pa Key Pa

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

No not the law but the insurance companies, if they went on the full offence with all these claims it would kill the majority of them in months, none of the scammers would be willing to go bankrupt over it and no solicitors would go no win no fee if they knew the insurer would actually investigate the claim.

Firstly, there are NO consequences for a scammer who tries and fails to seek compensation and the potential rewards, at law, make it well worth the effort

ALL claims are investigated by insurers. However, if a medical consultant is willing to put his name to a report that a patient has suffered specific physical or physiological injuries, backed by a solicitor who can prove 3 drops of water were on the ground causing his client to fall, what exactly do you think the insurer can do???? The insurer is no angel, but they are not the sole cause of the problem.

fryup

they talking about him now on today fm

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

I made the mistake of forgetting to put a box of Tesco burgers I bought into my freezer.

And they're off!!!

Widdershins

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

Firstly, there are NO consequences for a scammer who tries and fails to seek compensation and the potential rewards, at law, make it well worth the effort

ALL claims are investigated by insurers. However, if a medical consultant is willing to put his name to a report that a patient has suffered specific physical or physiological injuries, backed by a solicitor who can prove 3 drops of water were on the ground causing his client to fall, what exactly do you think the insurer can do???? The insurer is no angel, but they are not the sole cause of the problem.

A scammer who fails still has to pay his own legal costs, no?

Liam McPoyle

soups05 wrote: »

Before I knew where i was a claim was being made lol.

And that ladies and gentlemen is exactly what the major problem is.

An individual was not going to claim but suddenly a solicitor got involved and a claim is born.

Im not having a pop at you Soups, you are 100% entitled to claim as you were hit by an unidentified person and suffered a loss, that's why there is a levy on insurance.

However for every genuine case there are countless makey uppy cases.

The ONLY group that benefit from higher payouts and longer tail (length of time it takes for a claim to settle) claims are the legal system.

Soups (or anyone) could just as easily have been a complete try on case but I GUARANTEE that the solicitor would take on the case and provide an exhaustive list of horrendous symptoms the victim has suffered.

Absolute leeches.

Venom

Klonker wrote: »

Of course a person can be unlucky but this guy claimed compensation for eating horse meat, he is a scammer.

A bit like this one who maintains she is not a "gold digger".

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/im-no-gold-digger-designer-with-claims-history-including-75k-for-wall-repair-and-83k-for-petrol-station-slip-35222541.html


In 2009, she successfully sued the Avoca shop in Dublin’s Suffolk Street for €12,000 after a pan fell on her head.

In 2011, she failed in an action against client when she sought payment of more than €77,000 from for furnishing apartments he owned in Dublin and France.

In 2012, she lost an action against an Applegreen service station when she tried to claim for €83,000 after falling in the forecourt. She is appealing this ruling.

Sue Pa Key Pa

Widdershins wrote: »

A scammer who fails still has to pay his own legal costs, no?

If a scammer loses a case, it would be throwing good money after bad for his legal team to try & get paid. They assess every case on a risk and reward basis. They can take a few hits in return for the big rewards on the successful ones.

As for an insurer who wins their case and gets costs awarded in their favour, they'll never get to see it. When you have a 'no lose' situation, why wouldn't anyone give it a go.

This case was fought hard by an insurer who obviously felt that the vast amount of previous UNFORTUNATE EVENTS put them in a strong position. Then the honourable judge gives him €10,000 PLUS COSTS.

The report yesterday by the Insurance Commission criticised insurers for settling outside the Injuries Board & the Courts. There's your answer and there is where the problem lies. Our legal procedures are an expensive game of Russian Roulette