Xylitol, why isn't it more widely recommended and used.

Muhammed_1

Why isn't Xylitol more widely used and recommended?

It is very effective, safe and cheap to use and it produces excellent results.

I'd recommend a home made mouthwash made using 100% Xylitol powder rather than products containing Xylitol.


Xylitol is known to work.
It cannot be used as food by some of the worst bacteria in your mouth. It is a five carbon ring sugar rather than a six carbon ring sugar like regular sugar. That makes all the difference to the bacteria.
The bad bacteria try to 'eat' the xylitol thinking its normal sugar but they soon realise they can't digest it. They then have to waste energy excreting the xylitol without gaining any energy from it.



Why is not more recommended by dentists?

It does work and is known to work. It's easy and cheap to use and it may well help the patients with the very worst types of persistent plaque.

For example, Streptococus Mutans doesn't like Xylitol, and it's one of the very bad bacteria in your mouth.


I did make two posts today in the dental forum about xylitol. I don't make or sell xylitol, I just am genuinely surprised it is not more widely recommended.

Oral Surgeon

It's a laxative too, you missed that wonderful property of xylitol...

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Why isn't Xylitol more widely used and recommended?

It is very effective, safe and cheap to use and it produces excellent results.

I'd recommend a home made mouthwash made using 100% Xylitol powder rather than products containing Xylitol.


Xylitol is known to work.
It cannot be used as food by some of the worst bacteria in your mouth. It is a five carbon ring sugar rather than a six carbon ring sugar like regular sugar. That makes all the difference to the bacteria.
The bad bacteria try to 'eat' the xylitol thinking its normal sugar but they soon realise they can't digest it. They then have to waste energy excreting the xylitol without gaining any energy from it.



Why is not more recommended by dentists?

It does work and is known to work. It's easy and cheap to use and it may well help the patients with the very worst types of persistent plaque.

For example, Streptococus Mutans doesn't like Xylitol, and it's one of the very bad bacteria in your mouth.


I did make two posts today in the dental forum about xylitol. I don't make or sell xylitol, I just am genuinely surprised it is not more widely recommended.

Muhammed_1

Is it a laxative even if not swallowed?

It is a laxative in large quantities.

I recommend swilling the home made mouthwash around your mouth and then discarding into the sink. No need to rinse.

No laxative effect if used like that.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Normal mouthwash doesnt have fermentable carbohydrate (alochol in some and Sodium Saccharin) why put a substitute in for something that not there? If it were a good idea they would put it in believe me, anything to differentiate one minty water from another.

Muhammed_1

I don't understand the resistance to Xylitol, hence this thread.

It has been clinically shown to reduce the quantity of bad bacteria in your mouth.

It is cheap, and completely safe to use.

The mechanism of action is well known and understood.


Why is it not more widely used?


By the way, I think that chewing gums or sweets will be ineffective. The reason is insufficient dosing, and insufficient frequency of dosing.

I recommend using home made mouthwash made using xylitol powder and water, used liberally throughout the day and night, and spat out or discarded into the sink after use. After an initial few weeks of heavy use the use can be reduced, and the positive effects will be maintained.

1Kg of xylitol powder could be used to make approx 5 to 10 liters of mouthwash, and still be effective.

I agree that using xylitol as a sugar substitute could lead to laxative effects.

Muhammed_1

Mckenzie Better Yolk wrote: »

Normal mouthwash doesnt have fermentable carbohydrate (alochol in some and Sodium Saccharin) why put a substitute in for something that not there? If it were a good idea they would put it in believe me, anything to differentiate one minty water from another.

I have seen mouthwashes containing sorbital, which is an alcohol sugar like xylitol.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Dont think anyone has anything again Xylitol, its just doesnt serve any purpose over water. As a sustitute instead of sugar in foods thats a good idea (except the taste is not terrific) but as an addition to non sugar containing mouthwash...why?

Muhammed_1

Did you read anything I wrote?

Xylitol has been clinically proven to interfere with the life cycle of Streptococcus Mutans, which is a bad bacteria in your mouth.

It has a clinically proven positive effect.

I cannot be clearer than that.

If you think xylitol is no more effective than water can you support your thinking in any way?

I can provide links to studies on xylitol but it should be unneccessary. Google is your friend if you're interested.


edited to add:
Although you say you have nothing against xylitol you appear unwilling to accept the scientific findings in relation to xylitol. That suggest a bias.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

No you said it cannot metabolise it....where is the evidence is has a beneficial effect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=xylitol+and+caries+prevention

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=xylitol+mouthwash+caries

Cant seem to find any science. Some websites and chronic pain websites advocate it, but they are not evidence...often quite the opposite.

Muhammed_1

There is an astonishing lack of interest in xylitol among dentists.

One could almost believe the conspiracy theory that dentists are suppressing information about xylitol because they would lose business.

I don't believe that for a second but I cannot explain the lack of interest among dentists in a substance that has been proven to have a beneficial effect.

The beneficial effects of flouride were known about for several decades before it's use was widely recommended.

I searched this forum before posting. Very few mentions of Xylitol over a five year period.

I feel the problem with existing studies of xylitol effeciency is that the dosing is insufficient, and that the dosing frequency is not sufficient. Having said that, studies do show a beneficial effect.

For example (on dosing), gums contain about a gram of xylitol. A homemade mouthwash could contain ten times that amount, and be used more frequently, including during the night if you wake up and go to the toilet.


A homemade mouthwash such as I describe cannot fail to have a positive effect if used frequently.

Other xylitol containing products might not provide a sufficient dose.

ohnonotgmail

do you have links to any scientific studies that show it is beneficial?

EoghanIRL

You are saying use a 100% xylitol mouthwash?

There is little evidence to suggest that non fluoridated mouthwashes have any benefit other than getting rid of bad breath during the day etc...

I saw a study that showed that children in schools who used a fluoridated mouth wash during the day , at a time different to tooth brushing, had a lower caries rate.
But with just xylitol you aren't getting the benefits of fluoride, no densenitizing, remineralising agents, antimicrobials etc etc

I'm afraid there wouldn't be much benefit to your homemade mouth wash. Why not just rinse your mouth with water?

The only homemade mouth wash I ever heard of was the water ,salt and sodium bicarbonate one.

Muhammed_1

I repeat that I find the lack of knowledge about xylitol to be fairly astonishing.

Yes, I am saying people should use a 100% xylitol mouthwash.

http://www.dentistryiq.com/articles/2014/12/the-benefits-of-xylitol-for-your-dental-patients-are-numerous.html wrote:

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The bacteria in plaque can’t metabolize xylitol as a food, and the bacteria exhaust themselves trying to communicate in the biofilm community and reproduce. Because bacteria are not metabolizing the xylitol, they will die and break away from the biofilm and not stick to the teeth.
...

There are lots of articles talking about xylitol and its use and effectiveness.

Most studies use chewing gums. The frequency of application may be too low for the best results, and that leads to ambigious results.

EoghanIRL

Ok but what are the benefits of using a 100% xylitol mouth wash?
Why not just rinse your mouth with water?
Or a fluoride mouth wash?

You need to separate the use of xylitol as a non-reducible sugar from its being used where it's not necessary.

Muhammed_1

Xylitol is an active ingredient, a special type of alcohol sugar.

Xylitol itself kills Streptococcus Mutans, a bad bacteria that causes decay in your mouth.


Adding xylitol powder to water allows easy distribution of the xylitol around the mouth, between the teeth etc.


The vast majority of tooth decay and tooth caries are caused by sugar, e.g. sucrose or glucose

Xylitol isn't a medicine, it is a food but it has real effects on the bacteria in your mouth, it kills the worst ones, leaving fairly innocuous ones behind.

Sugar isn't a medicine either but it also has real effects on mouth bacteria, by feeding them a huge feast, causing plaque, demineralisation and eventually decay.



A three week long intensive course of xylitol mouthwash can have a huge effect if your particular mouth fauna of bacteria happens to contain a lot of Strepto Mutans.

Xylitol also affects the ability of mouth bacteria to form biofilms. Plaque is a biofilm which clings to teeth. It is less adhesive when xylitol is used and that's a good thing.

EoghanIRL

I think you need to think just how potent the antibacterial effect actually is.

Just want to add that s.mutans are "classically" associated with dental caries as a pioneering organism. However with the development in culturing and microbiology the role of s.mutans isn't likely to be as large as you think. There are many other organisms associated with the caries process.

And to reiterate the point that non-fluoride mouth washes are of limited use in the dental setting , they mainly target halitosis.

Oral Surgeon

Great but they start feasting again when you have a snickers and a coke....!
Why not rinse with something that kills them like chlorhexidine or "repairs" or strengthens the teeth like fluoride??

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Several Long term studies have shown that long term Xylitol use selects for xylitol non-transporting and thus xylitol resistant S. mutans, that was back in 1995 and 1996 (Trahan) no evidence since has emerged to suggest that it has a long term beneficial effect greater than oral hygiene measures and or fluoride, and few of the studies have been able to discriminate the sialagogue/mechanical effect of chewing gum from the xylitol itself. Also while Xylitol effects the growth of some S. Mutans strains, it doesnt effect to acid production capacity of them and does not bring up the Ph of dental plaque in vitro.

On a side point Strep mutans, while a "famous" dental bacteria and a producer of decay causing acids and stabliser of biofilm is only one of a great many carcinogenic bacteria. Little evidence exists for Xylitols effectiveness on these others. It has no effect on lactobacilli, actinomycetes, and other streptococci tested except S. sanguis

Short term, poorly controlled and mostly pilot low N number studies exist to prove its effect based on bacterial count and there is some in vitro biochemical evidence for its short term effect. However as a dental scientist trying to improve the dental health of actual people over long periods of time, this is a red herring, that distracts people from the real truth that disruption of the biofilm with oral hygiene and limitation of the frequency of sugars is the key to caries reduction. Everyone is looking for a secret magic potion, caries vaccination, oil pulling or other medication that will solve their issues. The real answer is elbow grease.

Xylitol is well researched, and still is not a mainstay of oral hygiene products....why?....conspiracy? or may its just not that effective in a very complex system that is dental decay...

The state of the art in caries prevention is coming out of the US, see this super paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3362266/ Featherstone is a terrific scientist and speaker, and his protocols get real results. Interesting that low caries incidence and bacterial counts are not really statistically correlated....

Is the troll feed I am supplying cariogenic?????

Muhammed_1

I'll come back in 20 to 100 years when the dental profession has caught on.

I find the reaction here to be bizarre.

The question still hasn't been answered.

Why does the dental profession deny the benefits of xylitol?

Is it that xylitol doesn't work?

But that is contradicted by studies. I'm not a librarian and I don't see my role as providing access to lots of studies.

I am amazed at the lack of interst, and dare I say knowledge, among the dental community when it comes to xylitol.


What is the harm in recommending it?

Has a dentist here ever advised a patient about the clinically proven effect of xylitol?
If not, why not?


I am not a dentist. I am a patient who feels let down by his dentist, and by extension, the entire dental commnuity.

What is the reluctance to recognise xylitol as the beneficial compound that it is?


The dental community should consider themselves to have a duty of care to their patients, which includes correctly advising their patients of all possibilities. If xylitol is not being advised, why not?

Xylitol is not a fad cure, or a quack cure.

cnocbui

Coconut oil seems like it might have promise:

RESULTS:

Statistically significant reduction in S. mutans count was seen in both the coconut oil pulling and Chlorhexidine group.
CONCLUSION:

Oil pulling can be explored as a safe and effective alternative to Chlorhexidine.
CLINICAL SIGNIFICANCE:

Edible oil-pulling therapy is natural, safe and has no side effects. Hence, it can be considered as a preventive therapy at home to maintain oral hygiene.

Oral Surgeon

You are quite correct and for that you win the Wrigleys Extra award for dubious advice in Dentistry.

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

I'll come back in 20 to 100 years when the dental profession has caught on.

I find the reaction here to be bizarre.

The question still hasn't been answered.

Why does the dental profession deny the benefits of xylitol?

Is it that xylitol doesn't work?

But that is contradicted by studies. I'm not a librarian and I don't see my role as providing access to lots of studies.

I am amazed at the lack of interst, and dare I say knowledge, among the dental community when it comes to xylitol.


What is the harm in recommending it?

Has a dentist here ever advised a patient about the clinically proven effect of xylitol?
If not, why not?


I am not a dentist. I am a patient who feels let down by his dentist, and by extension, the entire dental commnuity.

What is the reluctance to recognise xylitol as the beneficial compound that it is?


The dental community should consider themselves to have a duty of care to their patients, which includes correctly advising their patients of all possibilities. If xylitol is not being advised, why not?

Xylitol is not a fad cure, or a quack cure.

Muhammed_1

Are you mocking me?

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Are you mocking me?

Me? No, I'd never do that.

Muhammed_1

You are either mocking me, or behaving like a petulant schoolchild.

Which is it?

I don't deserve to be mocked and it's likely against Boards Charter.

I'm challenging your professional performance and your only response is denigration and childishness.

EoghanIRL

Can someone recommend a pro-xylitol dentist in the Munster area?

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

You are either mocking me, or behaving like a petulant schoolchild.

Which is it?

I don't deserve to be mocked and it's likely against Boards Charter.

I'm challenging your professional performance and your only response is denigration and childishness.

You have supplied no links to actual peer reviewed clinical trials that show an actual benefit to the patient, so sorry if I am not taking you seriously.

Xylitol is a sugar substitute for foods to keep them tasting nice but to reduce the damage to teeth and general health. To take it one step further and claim a health benefit to rinsing with xylitol is interesting but needs to be backed up by clinical trials, do you have them???

To come onto Boards and give out to the dentists here is ridiculous. We are clinicians in private practice and follow the most up to date clinical trials when deciding our practice and advice. I do not have neither the time nor the inclination to research xylitol.

Until such time as scientific studies recommend the use of xylitol as a rinse, I won't be changing my practice. Don't worry about my professional performance btw.

I'll wait now for the internet police to charge me with daring to have a different view to you.

Muhammed_1

Your first approach was to mock and denigrate.

First impressions last.
You don't come across as a professional, and you do bring your profession into disrepute with your childishness and with your mocking attitude.


You cannot be keeping up to date with dental news if you're unaware of xylitol.

I have no interest in engaging with bullies, and sniping type comments.

If, as a dental professional, you are unaware of xylitol I am not going to provide endless links for you.

I repeat that I an disturbed by the reaction to this thread.

Muhammed_1

some links.

http://www.kiddsdental.com/nutrition/xylitol/research/does-xylitol-influence-gingivitis-and-0periodontitis wrote:

...
Systematic use of xylitol helps to reduce the accumulation of dental plaque.
...
With long-term xylitol consumption, the bacterial populations tend to shift into less damaging “communities”. The 5-carbon structure of xylitol cannot be utilized by oral bacteria to form the sticky polymer meshwork that holds the bacterial biofilm together. Consequently, the “xylitol plaque” tends to be less sticky, less acidic, less inflammatory, and less harmful than ordinary “sucrose (sugar) plaque.”

Xylitol is not a food source for any of the pathogenic bacteria associated with periodontal disease. More recently, xylitol has been shown to inhibit the growth and harmful effects of Porphyromonas gingivalis, an important periodontal pathogen.
...
Xylitol has been shown to block re-emergence of cariogenic bacteria during periodontal therapy, such as after full-mouth disinfection procedures.
...

Xylitol has been known about for a long time.

If I enquired about flouride I would not be asked to provide links to studies.

Dentists should know about Xylitol. Asking me for links to studies implies a lack of knowledge.

This thread is about the lack of knowledge among dentists about xylitol, and about why xylitol is not more widely recommended.

Muhammed_1

from dental hygenist magazine.

http://www.rdhmag.com/articles/print/volume-31/issue-4/features/wonders-of-xylitol.html wrote:

...
Xylitol is a normal part of everyday human metabolism. Our bodies make up to five to 10 grams per day in the metabolism of carbohydrates. Unfortunately, this process occurs in the gut, so it does not deliver any oral benefits. Since our bodies produce xylitol and the enzymes to break it down, there is no chance for any adverse reaction from eating products containing xylitol.

Frequency is really more important than the amount consumed.
...
Since there are always harmful bacteria in our mouths, xylitol is most effective if consumed throughout the day. If eaten only occasionally, it may not be as effective, regardless of the quantity consumed at that exposure time. Advocates of xylitol like to say "strive for five" exposures of xylitol every day. These exposures should be divided into several doses throughout the day in the form of toothpaste, mouthwash, candies, mints, and chewing gum.
...
Most of our dietary carbohydrates are based on a six-carbon monosaccharide unit, such as fructose and glucose. These units can be linked together and multiply. Streptococcus mutans bacteria utilize these units as a food source. They excrete waste, which produce plaque biofilm that can ultimately lead to tooth decay.

Xylitol, on the other hand, with its unique five-carbon structure is very stable and does not link together with other sugars. It is not a good food source for Strep mutans bacteria. Instead, xylitol blocks its harmful effects and builds protective factors.
...
As a result, there is less plaque buildup, and the decay-causing bacteria cannot stick to the teeth. This process reduces the number of Strep mutans bacteria, thereby reducing acid production in the mouth.
...
In 1988, the Finnish Dental Association officially endorsed the use of xylitol. The Swedish Dental Association followed the next year and the British in 1990. In 2008, the Arizona, Hawaii, and Kentucky Dental Hygienists' Associations came on board and endorsed xylitol. In 2010, California became the fourth state to advocate xylitol for its many preventive and therapeutic benefits. Since August 2010, my grassroots movement efforts have prompted the Texas, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, and Maine Dental Hygienists' Associations to pass this resolution advocating xylitol for its many preventive and therapeutic benefits.
...
Xylitol is natural, safe, and effective. It is an added benefit to the standard of care we provide to our patients.
...



Xylitol's preventive and therapeutic benefits

Helps prevent tooth decay by reducing plaque formation
Blocks the acids that demineralize tooth enamel
Halts the growth of acid producing bacteria
Reduces gingival inflammation
Has a glycemic level of 7, which does not trigger an insulin reaction in the body, making it useful for diabetics
Has 40% fewer calories than sugar.
Raises the pH level to be more alkaline

Why is xylitol not more widely recommended by Irish dentists?

Muhammed_1

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Can someone recommend a pro-xylitol dentist in the Munster area?

I am assuming that this is genuine and that it's not sarcasm.

I am unaware of any Irish dentist who has anything good to say about Xylitol. I haven't asked many in fairness but this thread is somewhat informative.

I cannot explain it.

Read up on xylitol. You will find that frequency of application is important.

My recommended regime is very likely to show good results.


1,000 grams of xylitol powder mixed with 5,000 to 10,000 ml of water (5 to 10 liters).
Use about 30ml per swig, which would contain about 3 grams to 6 grams of xylitol. A large amount in other words, but still completely safe. Spit out after use to avoid laxative effects.

Make liberal use of the mouthwash for three to four weeks, during the night too if possible.


Very simple advice but it can potentially make a huge difference. Especially to patients who have poor brushing technique, or poor or non-existent flossing technique, or poor patient compliance in general.

Xylitoll will also be very useful to people who regularily consume sugar, or sugary drinks. Use the xylitol mouthwash at the same time as consuming sugar.

gctest50

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

My recommended regime is very likely to show good results.

but .... you say are not a dentist :

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

I am not a dentist. I am a patient who feels let down by his dentist, and by extension, the entire dental commnuity.

then go on and spew this cr@p :

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Xylitol is natural, safe, and effective.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature

Muhammed_1

The fact that I am not a dentist does not preclude me from having an opinion, or from making a recommendation.

You are the one making logical errors, not me.

It was the Dental Hygeinist magazine that made the claim that xylitol is natural. And it is natural. What is your problem with that?


I didn't say that xylitol should be used BECAUSE it is natural. I said xylitol should be used because it is effective.



Why are you attacking me like this?

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

some links.


http://www.kiddsdental.com/nutrition/xylitol/research/does-xylitol-influence-gingivitis-and-0periodontitis

Xylitol has been known about for a long time.

If I enquired about flouride I would not be asked to provide links to studies.

Dentists should know about Xylitol. Asking me for links to studies implies a lack of knowledge.

This thread is about the lack of knowledge among dentists about xylitol, and about why xylitol is not more widely recommended.

The ramblings of a dentist in Idaho or rather Dr. John Peldyak is not research

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

from dental hygenist magazine.




Why is xylitol not more widely recommended by Irish dentists?

An article in a dental hygienist magazine is not research!!

Muhammed_1

Shoot the messenger why don't you?


I repeat, I am simply a normal person asking why xylitol is not more widely recommended.

Why am I coming in for such attacks?


Oral Surgeon, are the dental associations who do recommend xylitol wrong to do so?

We are talking Finland, Sweden, Britain etc.

Are they all wrong?

Everyone is wrong and you're correct.

Please!

Stop digging the hole.

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Your first approach was to mock and denigrate.

First impressions last.
You don't come across as a professional, and you do bring your profession into disrepute with your childishness and with your mocking attitude.

My attitude is only to balance your ridiculous and overzealous endorsement of an unproven concept

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

You cannot be keeping up to date with dental news if you're unaware of xylitol.

I have no interest in engaging with bullies, and sniping type comments.

"Dental news" is there to fill a gap in a newspaper or to fill the 30 second slot at the end of the news. It is BS, how many times have the news reported on "the end to the dental drill". If all patients were like you then they would head to their dentist a week later and give out about why they were not keeping up with the dental news and still using a drill.....

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

I have no interest in engaging with bullies, and sniping type comments.

If, as a dental professional, you are unaware of xylitol I am not going to provide endless links for you.

I repeat that I an disturbed by the reaction to this thread.

If you think that I am a bully, then you have lived a very sheltered life.

I am aware of xylitol, I just don't think that it is the panacea that you do.

The links that you have provided are rubbish.

What reaction did you expect? Thanks for your un-verified science and advice that can't be backed up by clinical research???

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Shoot the messenger why don't you?


I repeat, I am simply a normal person asking why xylitol is not more widely recommended.

Why am I coming in for such attacks?


Oral Surgeon, are the dental associations who do recommend xylitol wrong to do so?

We are talking Finland, Sweden, Britain etc.

Are they all wrong?

Everyone is wrong and you're correct.

Please!

Stop digging the hole.

Links please?

Muhammed_1

use google, troll.

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

use google, troll.

I have 2500 posts, most in the dental forum and I'm the troll??

Don't give dubious advice if you can't back it up properly. Am I to believe that Finland, Sweden and Britain are advising people to rinse with high quantities of xylitol??

Evidence, links???

You have read this so post it....

Muhammed_1

Number of posts means nothing.

Your attitude here is clear for all to see.

gctest50

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

use google, troll.

Surely you did research before you started making recommending regimes ?

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

My recommended regime is very likely to show good results.

only asking to paste in the sources



unless you go around recommending regimes without doing any research

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Number of posts means nothing.

Your attitude here is clear for all to see.

Snore!!

It is clear for all to see that you have no science.

Muhammed_1

Talk about an aggressive forum.

Where is the moderation?

gctest50

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

My recommended regime is very likely to show good results.

Did you do any research before recommending your regime ?

Muhammed_1

Is it your position that the magazines and dentists I quoted are lying?

Is it your position that the promotion of xylitol as having dental benefit is a scam?


Have you evidence to support your paranoid opinion?

Enter into google 'xylitol and dental health'.

Are all the results scammers and liars?

Why should we trust what you say?
You haven't provided any links.


Enter into google 'is xylitol a scam?'

Do you get any results?



Bizarre paranoid posts make up a lot of this thread.

ShoulderChip

Sweet, I never knew that professional dentists were at our beck and call here, and that if they don't satisfy me they have brought their profession into disrepute. Gonna have me some fun so :P

Muhammed_1

I'm going to ask a dentist to bake me a cake, and boy!, will I be angry if they refuse!

I equate Xylitol Denialism to climate change denialism!

gctest50

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim

Did you do research before recommending your regime ?

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

My recommended regime is very likely to show good results.

If you did research surely you made note of your sources ?

Oral Surgeon

Lying? No, but paper never refused ink and this is not the first time pseudo science has been advised here. It's not up to me to prove you wrong, it is up to you to prove that you are right.

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

Is it your position that the magazines and dentists I quoted are lying?

Is it your position that the promotion of xylitol as having dental benefit is a scam?


Have you evidence to support your paranoid opinion?

Enter into google 'xylitol and dental health'.

Are all the results scammers and liars?

Why should we trust what you say?
You haven't provided any links.


Enter into google 'is xylitol a scam?'

Do you get any results?



Bizarre paranoid posts make up a lot of this thread.

Oral Surgeon

Muhammed_1 wrote: »

I'm going to ask a dentist to bake me a cake, and boy!, will I be angry if they refuse!

I equate Xylitol Denialism to climate change denialism!

You are like a dog with a bone, what is your motivation on this topic?? What makes you such an expert?

Muhammed_1

Don't give xylitol to your dogs, it is very dangerous for them.


Is that pseudo science too Oral Surgeon?