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Rugby Doc- What We Did Last Summer

  • 10-11-2016 11:49pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭


    I was a bit underwhelmed with this documentary tbh. A lot of fill in.

    I need to be careful here as it's an ongoing case which might be groundless, but the focus on the Jackson family felt a little strange.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭Grueller


    nagdefy wrote: »
    I was a bit underwhelmed with this documentary tbh. A lot of fill in.

    I need to be careful here as it's an ongoing case which might be groundless, but the focus on the Jackson family felt a little strange.

    We berate the English media for over the top reaction when they win anything, yet here we are with a documentary about winning a glorified practice match in a best of 3 series which was lost two to one. Also over the top reaction and hyperbole about the "stunning" win against NZ last weekend. Hypocrisy much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    Grueller wrote: »
    We berate the English media for over the top reaction when they win anything, yet here we are with a documentary about winning a glorified practice match in a best of 3 series which was lost two to one. Also over the top reaction and hyperbole about the "stunning" win against NZ last weekend. Hypocrisy much.

    I wouldn't share your viewpoint, there's no such thing in rugby as a non test match. It was a great achievement to win in SA with 14 men. But i accept your point that we're too fond of clapping ourselves on the back about a lot of things. Great little country crap.

    My problem this evening was the programme was boring and full of cliche. I was probably expecting too much.

    And i follow all sports i'd highly rate the Ireland's draw in Russia and Richard Dunne's performance that night in the euro 2012 qualifiers. I'd admire the Kilkenny hurling team of the noughties etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭Grueller


    nagdefy wrote: »
    I wouldn't share your viewpoint, there's no such thing in rugby as a non test match. It was a great achievement to win in SA with 14 men. But i accept your point that we're too fond of clapping ourselves on the back about a lot of things. Great little country crap.

    My problem this evening was the programme was boring and full of cliche. I was probably expecting too much.

    And i follow all sports i'd highly rate the Ireland's draw in Russia and Richard Dunne's performance that night in the euro 2012 qualifiers. I'd admire the Kilkenny hurling team of the noughties etc.

    I could be wrong, I do seem to be on a bit of a media bashing binge at the moment. Just seems that a documentary about one win in a losing test series should not be documentary material. I am going to sleep now before I sound any more like Eamonn Dunphy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    Fact is Ireland could not win a series in SA against the worst BOK team in living memory as well as the worst coach(I include PDV)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Bigbok wrote: »
    Fact is Ireland could not win a series in SA against the worst BOK team in living memory as well as the worst coach(I include PDV)
    LOL! Nobody cares about SA or their moribund rugby culture. Ireland put 40 on the All Blacks, and they put 40 on Seth Efrika.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    wut?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    LOL! Nobody cares about SA or their moribund rugby culture. Ireland put 40 on the All Blacks, and they put 40 on Seth Efrika.

    So that's ur reply???come back to reality,Ireland will get thumped by NZ in next week,the world looks at that win to be more of a shock than when Japan beat SA so what does that tell u??irish fans tend to get way ahead of themselves then when they fall down they are full of excuses?why couldn't u win a series in SA????honest question so would love to hear ur reply to that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Bigbok wrote: »
    So that's ur reply???come back to reality,Ireland will get thumped by NZ in next week,the world looks at that win to be more of a shock than when Japan beat SA so what does that tell u??irish fans tend to get way ahead of themselves then when they fall down they are full of excuses?why couldn't u win a series in SA????honest question so would love to hear ur reply to that?
    I will not discuss rugger with a person from a country that shipped 60 points to New Zealand this season.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    I will not discuss rugger with a person from a country that shipped 60 points to New Zealand this season.

    Just shows u prob know nothing about the game and u just jumped in the bandwagon!u do realise ssotlans have a better win record against Ireland than Ireland have against them!very embarrassing that stat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Bigbok wrote: »
    Just shows u prob know nothing about the game and u just jumped in the bandwagon!u do realise ssotlans have a better win record against Ireland than Ireland have against them!very embarrassing that stat!

    Who the fcuk are Ssotlans?

    Japan!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now that's embarrassing!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    Who the fcuk are Ssotlans?

    Japan!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now that's embarrassing!

    60-0 that's all I'll say,come back to me when u can have a proper conversation about rugby


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    Who the fcuk are Ssotlans?

    Japan!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now that's embarrassing!

    Remember Ireland lost twice to a amateur team(Namibia)

    U have foreigners playing in ur team and even had a South African captain.thats embarrassing.goodnight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Bigbok wrote: »
    60-0 that's all I'll say,come back to me when u can have a proper conversation about rugby
    It is only possible to have a proper convo about rugger with rugger chaps from other Tier 1 countries. Not shanty South Africans.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    It is only possible to have a proper convo about rugger with rugger chaps from other Tier 1 countries. Not shanty South Africans.

    Says the inbread pikey prick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Bigbok wrote: »
    Says the inbread pikey prick
    Only a chap of low class would misspell inbred. Not rugger material at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,458 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    CJ standers mom looks alrite tbf lol

    South African rugby fans are very cocky. They are sore enough losers too (remember when we beat them in CP in 2009 when they were world champs and the SA players didn't clap the Irish team in)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Bigbok


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    CJ standers mom looks alrite tbf lol

    South African rugby fans are very cocky. They are sore enough losers too (remember when we beat them in CP in 2009 when they were world champs and the SA players didn't clap the Irish team in)

    What about the way POC acted during the lions 2009 tour,he was a disgrace


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    So we lost a friendly series 2-1 and beat New Zeland in a friendly!

    What's the big deal, they were friendlies!

    When it mattered most at the World Cup the rugby team FAILED


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    It was a promo for Vodafone nothing more, very underwhelming compared to rte's previous rugby docs. Would have liked to see more about cj stander.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The hysteria that greeted the NZ win was some sight.

    They should hang their heads for the century of the appalling record, and be relieved at snapping that, surely long after the other 7 or 8 countries that play the game did it. It must have been the worst losing streak by any Irish team in any sport. We had to win one, if just in the law of averages. I had grown men telling me it was the greatest result by an Irish international team, overlooking our soccer team beating the Brazils, Germanys, Italys and Spains, our cricket team disposing of Pakistan and England in World Cups etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    I hate when we win something we always have to say "oh look at the english now". We certainly weren't saying that after the the olympics.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    When you think Ireland had the muster to draw away to the world champs and beat them at home in football, in tournament football when it was required, it makes you wonder how Ireland lost for over a century to NZ in rugby. I know it's a different sport but our footballers are terrible compared to Germany whereas I keep hearing about all the world class rugby players we have. We don't even have one world class footballer right now but we can take a superpower head every few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    When you think Ireland had the muster to draw away to the world champs and beat them at home in football, in tournament football when it was required, it makes you wonder how Ireland lost for over a century to NZ in rugby. I know it's a different sport but our footballers are terrible compared to Germany whereas I keep hearing about all the world class rugby players we have. We don't even have one world class footballer right now but we can take a superpower head every few years.

    Scoring systems are completely different and this allows for fewer shocks in Rugby. Its similiar to Gaelic Football. The best team will generally prevail, which is why you see the likes of New Zealand go on an 18 game winning streak. You wouldn't see that in soccer at the highest level too often where a defensive game employed with the right tactics can often see the better team failing to score at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭Allinall


    So we lost a friendly series 2-1 and beat New Zeland in a friendly!

    What's the big deal, they were friendlies!

    When it mattered most at the World Cup the rugby team FAILED

    No such thing as a friendly match in rugby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Allinall wrote: »
    No such thing as a friendly match in rugby.

    That's what the rugger crowd always say. It was a glorified friendly game. Ireland have a 1-1-27 record now against New Zealand. Embarrassing stuff. Yet the win in a friendly in Chicago is being hailed. It's still being talked about on the radio nearly a week later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    That's what the rugger crowd always say. It was a glorified friendly game. Ireland have a 1-1-27 record now against New Zealand. Embarrassing stuff. Yet the win in a friendly in Chicago is being hailed. It's still being talked about on the radio nearly a week later.

    It was an international test match.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    It was an international test match.

    Glorified Friendly!

    When it matters the rugby team always FAIL! That's a fact!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Glorified Friendly!

    When it matters the rugby team always FAIL! That's a fact!

    Rubbish trolling mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Glorified Friendly!

    When it matters the rugby team always FAIL! That's a fact!
    There's no point with these morons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I like rugby.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Rubbish trolling mate.

    It's not trolling! It's a Fact!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    It's just as much a friendly match as a friendly game in soccer.
    Both contribute to world rankings but that's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It was an international test match.

    So basically a friendly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Glorified Friendly!

    LOI fan engaging in sports snobbery.

    Funny old world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    LOI fan engaging in sports snobbery.

    Funny old world.

    To be fair, Dundalk did win the Champions League.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    So basically a friendly.

    U havnt a bulls notion about rugby.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    LOI fan engaging in sports snobbery.

    Funny old world.

    Least us LOI fans follow our teams through good and bad.

    Munster and Leinster can barely fill half their stadiums these days! 5 years ago when they were both good tickets were like gold dust

    Don't get me started on the Leinster people who supported Munster until Leinster became good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    U havnt a bulls notion about rugby.

    Oh I do. I totally understand the rugger snobbery of "test" matches. They are the equivalent of friendlies, as much as the rugger crowd hate to accept that. It's actually funny. A 1-1-27 record against New Zealand and the match is being celebrated like they won the world cup, champions league and Nobel peace prize all rolled into one. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    LOI fan engaging in sports snobbery.

    Funny old world.

    It's hardly snobbery to point out it was a glorified friendly. The rugger crowd claiming it is so much more IS snobbery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It's hardly snobbery to point out it was a glorified friendly. The rugger crowd claiming it is so much more IS snobbery.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Oh I do. I totally understand the rugger snobbery of "test" matches. They are the equivalent of friendlies, as much as the rugger crowd hate to accept that. It's actually funny. A 1-1-27 record against New Zealand and the match is being celebrated like they won the world cup, champions league and Nobel peace prize all rolled into one. :D

    They are NOT the equivalent of friendlies. The concept of Friendlies does not exist in international rugby. Go read up on it. Can't be bothered educating you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Very slow and boring documentary, it was a stunning win over there with 14 men, Joe Schmidt is really some man, he is getting this group to do things no other Irish team have done.

    I would love to see a docu on Dundalk this year, another exceptional team.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    buck65 wrote: »
    Very slow and boring documentary, it was a stunning win over there with 14 men, Joe Schmidt is really some man, he is getting this group to do things no other Irish team have done.

    I would love to see a docu on Dundalk this year, another exceptional team.

    RTE wouldn't even pay for the rights to show Dundalks qualifiers V FH or BATE (BT/Eir only have rights from 3rd qualifying round onwards)

    They are hardly gonna do a documentary on Dundalk.

    Plus if we qualify for last 32 of Europa League, it would be pointless in doing it until after we are out/win it.

    Eir would be your best bet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Didas


    Least us LOI fans follow our teams through good and bad.

    Munster and Leinster can barely fill half their stadiums these days! 5 years ago when they were both good tickets were like gold dust

    Don't get me started on the Leinster people who supported Munster until Leinster became good
    And I suppose the 10,000+ fans Dundalk brought to the Aviva last Sunday will all pack in to Oriel next March will they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    To be fair, when they were making the documentary they had no idea how the test series would fair out. Up until the third match it was in the balance and considering all the injuries Ireland had, to have won 2-1 would have been a series acheivement.

    So they were left with this documentary of a lost series but after Ireland's win last week, there would have been a huge demand for RTE to show it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Lolz on the chipz on their shoulders crew!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭glenq


    For about 30 minutes tonights rugger game was a friendly.

    Then it turned into an international test match.


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