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And if you don't have neutral or a shelly 1L, installing them in the ceiling rose is great, especially for upstairs/downstairs switched lights.

micks_address

If installing over a light in the ceiling which is the best Shelley to go for? No need for power monitoring etc

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122892922#Comment_122892922

1 mini gen 3. It's tiny.

Also look at getting some Wago connectors, they are handy for making off the connections to the Shelly with flexable wire as the solid stuff is a pig.

munsterfan2

Stupid question - I assume the brown wires are all live and this is a light switch with no neutral ? Should I get readings with a voltmeter ?

bittihuduga

i had asked this question in some thread but cant find it anymore…what shelly should i buy to put it to the RED switch used to turn on water heating using electricity?

(we have gas for hot water but we also have this red switch which can be used for heating water)

its in a very easy spot and accidentally everyone keeps turning it on. i dont know which shelly switch can be used here

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122893108#Comment_122893108

Absolutely none of them are suitable for an immersion heater. The correct way to do this is to use a contactor to control the heavy load switching then any of the on/off Shelleys (non dimming) can be used to control the contactor.

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122893058#Comment_122893058

That's looks like a 2-way switch wiring. The top connector with the two wires should be the incoming live, the bottom two are on either side of the switch - either one is on and the other is off depending on the switch position.

But look deeper into the box - the neutral doesn't come out to the switch plate itself - it's often tucked in to the back and bundled up.

bittihuduga

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122893183#Comment_122893183

oh, thanks for the reply. i have no idea about this. i hope the sparky knows if i ask him

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122893602#Comment_122893602

Best to get the electrician if you don't know as it's a real fire risk. The install is not all that complicated any sparky will know what to do regards wiring a contactor, but they may be cluesless about the software configuration of the Shelly.

micks_address

Been playing with hue like card hacs repo. Nice to be able to have the hue app look but include non hue lights

munsterfan2

And for the ever useful alerts from HA / Frigate when I left the gate open again :-)

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122895238#Comment_122895238

Love it! Is the sheep object detection accurate enough to discern sheep from a dog?

munsterfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122895426#Comment_122895426

It rarely gets confused with the dog, although ocassionally it detects herself as a sheep if she is wearing a wooly coat bent over digging at the flower bed :-)

DC999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122895471#Comment_122895471

Was is doing the motion detection? Sounds fairly advanced

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122896504#Comment_122896504

Frigate by the looks of it.

If you use Proxmox then try this:

https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/scripts?id=frigate

munsterfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122896504#Comment_122896504

Yes, using frigate

objects:

track:

- person

- car

- dog

- sheep

- cat

micks_address

hi folks,

shellys arrived today. shelley 1 gen 3. I've an electrician calling tomorrow - to wire them above a light and do some other work - im assuming he will be able to figure it out - but - you would put live from the switch into SW, neutral into N, then the wires to the light go from O (Neutral) and I (live to light)?

https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-1-mini-gen3

micks_address

Hi folks,

Electrician tried wiring the Shelley above one of the lights this morning. I wasn't home but he phoned me and said the light came on in a dimmed state. It's not a dimmer light or attached to a dimmer switch. I wasn't home so we said better he remove it for now.

Why would it dim the light?

Thanks

Mick

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122904991#Comment_122904991

Bad connection or a miswire, I'd suggest Mick.

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122904991#Comment_122904991

It has a relay with dry contacts, so unnless there is a fault where the relay is providing a partial short then the most likely scenario is it was wired incorrectly. Honestly if the electrician couldn't figure out which it might be I'd seriously consider getting a different electrician. The diagram provided is typical of what would be provided with any type of relay switch device such as a central heating timer.

Even if the device were faulty the electrician should be able to figure that out with a simple continuity test.

micks_address

Hi folks,

Do you ever have issues with aqara sensors not updating? Temp/humidity with M2 hub. Seems to be stuck tonight. Not updating in app or ha

Thanks

Michael

ECO_Mental

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122911403#Comment_122911403

Yeah, Zigbee can drive you crazy at times especially the battery operated ones…they will drop off the network from time to time you just have to re-pair them. Go to devices in HA and then add device press the pairing button on the temp sensor and it "should" come back on….They break my heart at times…Zigbee is on the 2.4 GHz frequency and can clash with your wifi. I moved all my 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi Access Points channels as far away from the Zigbee channels and this has helped. Just looking at my access points it look like they might have changed channels (curse you Unifi and you optimisation!) I did have them all away from the Zigbee channels

micks_address

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122911477#Comment_122911477

Are there any WiFi sensors that integrate with ha and work solidly?

10-10-20

I had a pain of a time with the Aquara and Sonoff sensors until October. I bought them all about 2 years ago with a Sonoff E dongle and they used to drop offline really frequently, so then paired them through an Ikea gateway, and they used to drop, but not as often,after a few days and generally just be pigs to deal with.

AnAnyway, in October I updated the E dongle to the latest router firmware and moved everything back off the Ikea gateway and under ZHA, and since then it has all been rock solid. I did add in an Ikea extender and that has helped with comes to some of the more remote sensors, but most of the routing is being done by the Ikea bulbs anyway, so the network is solid now.

Additionally I also have Zwave devices around, and they are pretty reliable except for some age-related failures of TRV's... but that's a different story.

micks_address

Im using the matter integration in ha, had been working fine until this evening. In the aqra app and ha I'm seeing random interval updates.. moved the hub wired to a WiFi satellite closet to the sensor. I'll see if it improves

micks_address

Ill remove and repair the sensor this morning..it's updating but at weird intervals

micks_address

i dropped the matter integration in HA, removed the temp sensor, reset the hub and paired again in HA with homekit.. will see how it goes..

ECO_Mental

TBH I think I am done with Zigbee!!!

My missus plugged out one of my Zigbee plugs over the weekend that was acting as a router and f**ked the whole thing up. Now a load of my Zigbee buttons and motion sensors have dropped off the network and shes complaing nothing is working 😡 Tried to quickly pair them this moring but they wouldnt….going to move to Wi-fi

Its too unstable..if I was advising anybody getting started in home automation I woudlnt reccomend Zigbee. The advantage though is the very low power use and the devices can be really small and you can stick them anywhere

Look at this crap…signals boucing everywhere. Might be an issue also with me in that I have my hub in the utility room. They say you should have the hub in the middle of the network if at all possible

10-10-20

Another thing that I did with ZigBee was to move the USB dongle away from my server and into a more central location in my house. I used ser2net to do that, but I also was lucky enough to have a second server running centrally to host the container.

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/connecting-to-a-remote-zigbee-coordinator-with-zha-using-ser2net/561762

Resource wise, it's running off 128MB of memory and one CPU in an LXC on Proxmox.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122912437#Comment_122912437

I started hiding some of my IOT equipment in the ceiling for that reason. I have a few floorboards under carpet where I have routers (POE) and such hidden. 😁

paulbok

I have 2 ZigBee networks running, one using the Zha integration in my office, and outbuilding where my server and main Comms are located. Dongle is beside all that and never have any issues with that network.

In the house I use a tubz dongle and ZigBee 2 mqtt. This one does cause issues, usually if there is a power outage*, I may have to restart the dongle a few times to get it picked up again by HA. The odd device can drop off for a few days and then reconnect by itself. Have a few repeaters around so the devices are always in range of each other.

Have a bunch of new tuya zigbee sensors coming from AliExpress that I picked up cheap over the last few days (air quality and humidity sensors), so will be adding those in a few weeks to it, might see about re-locating the dongle to see if that helps then.

*Happens more than you'd like where I live.