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Why will the Govt not hold an "Irexit" referendum?

  • 07-11-2016 12:46PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭


    In the aftermath of the vote by the majority of the UK electorate in favour of their country leaving the EU, why won't our government give us the opportunity to decide whether or not our country should remain in the EU?

    Surely, "Irexit" would be beneficial to us because it would save us a lot of money in terms of our financial contribution to the EU apparatus and maybe even get the Irish national debt reduced because we might only then have to pay money back to the IMF instead of to the Troika. Furthermore, Ireland could have a new economic relationship with the UK when the UK eventually leaves the EU.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because it would be idiotic.

    /thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Because they're not stupid.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ............why won't our government give us the opportunity to decide whether or not our country should remain in the EU?.........

    There's probably enough morons to vote for us to leave, best not to find out :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Not as catchy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Hi political analyst, how are you? I'm just popping in to say I have no interest in this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,577 ✭✭✭Harika


    Look at the Aftermath of the Brexit and how quickly it became clear that the promises of the Leave-Camp were illusional at best, also how the whole process is a disaster from the beginning to the end. So if you still think Ireland should vote for that, great, I have some magic beans to sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    The farmers would drive some John Deeres and Masseys through the gates of Leinster house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    it would be a waste of money the vast majority would more than likely vote remain, not sure i would personally but i couldn't see an exit having much popular support here.

    Thankfully we don't have the immigration issues etc they have in the UK , also we don't have our own international currency etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Demand for Irexit is insignificant and most people are aware it would be a disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    Because the UK has historically been a business and political powerhouse and has a top five global economy, a top 5 military reach, a seat at the security council. Etc.

    It will do fine on its own.

    Ireland. Not so much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭CFlat


    The leader of biggest proponent party, UKIP, to leave the EU stood down days after the Brits voted to leave. Even HE realised it was a f**king stupid idea and didn't want to around for the disastrous aftermath.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    ...why won't our government give us the opportunity to decide whether or not our country should remain in the EU

    For the same reason they won't hold a referendum on reintroducing the death penalty or joining Nato: There's little or no public demand for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    There is no public appetite for it and there are far more important issues that need to be put to a referendum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Because nobody would be able to pronounce IREXIT.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    511 wrote: »
    Demand for Irexit is insignificant and most people are aware it would be a disaster.

    And despite that, if the government did hold a referendum and the sitting government was Pro-stay, a large contingent would vote leave just to give two fingers to the government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭buried


    Bait it referendum

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Because there is no credible intelligent call for one

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,556 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    In the aftermath of the vote by the majority of the UK electorate in favour of their country leaving the EU, why won't our government give us the opportunity to decide whether or not our country should remain in the EU?

    Surely, "Irexit" would be beneficial to us because it would save us a lot of money in terms of our financial contribution to the EU apparatus and maybe even get the Irish national debt reduced because we might only then have to pay money back to the IMF instead of to the Troika. Furthermore, Ireland could have a new economic relationship with the UK when the UK eventually leaves the EU.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-financial-gain-from-eu-frances-fitzgerald-facts-2894694-Jul2016/

    This seems to suggest differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Because the vast majority of Irish people are pro European Union.

    Why are Irish people pro EU?

    We like being told what to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Because important, potential life and death (economically speaking, but not only) decisions should be operated by people who know what they're dealing with, rather than Johnny down the pub wanting to "feck tha politicians"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Hi political analyst, how are you? I'm just popping in to say I have no interest in this thread.

    Then don't post on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Because important, potential life and death (economically speaking, but not only) decisions should be operated by people who know what they're dealing with, rather than Johnny down the pub wanting to "feck tha politicians"?

    I'm not sure if I agree with this. If that is the will of the Irish people, then so be it. Not some random lad from Brussels or Enda Kenny who "knows what's good for us" being far superior beings to the rest of us lads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Ireland isn't good enough to go on its own. It has always had someone rule it. Irish kings, Kingdom of England, British Empire, European Union.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭political analyst


    FortySeven wrote: »
    Because the UK has historically been a business and political powerhouse and has a top five global economy, a top 5 military reach, a seat at the security council. Etc.

    It will do fine on its own.

    Ireland. Not so much.

    What about an economic agreement between Ireland and the UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭political analyst


    gandalf wrote: »
    There is no public appetite for it and there are far more important issues that need to be put to a referendum.


    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/fine-gael-treats-prolife-voters-with-contempt-to-fianna-fils-gain-34649626.html

    Why not hold a referendum on Irish membership of the EU while we're at it? Of course, there is no media demand for that, but again let's not confuse media demand and public demand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    jacksie66 wrote: »
    If we voted leave we'd me made do it again until we voted to stay..

    "If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue’,”
    - Jean Claude Juncker(bastion of democracy)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Ireland isn't good enough to go on its own. It has always had someone rule it. Irish kings, Kingdom of England, British Empire, European Union.
    It wouldn't be on its own. It could have an economic union with the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    There is very little demand for it.

    Also, just because the UK decided to engage in self harm, for a bunch of nonsense reasons, doesn't mean we should follow suit, and cause even greater harm to ourselves.

    BTW, the UK is a far larger economy and they have taken a hell of knock, and they aren't even out yet. It would likely be far worse for us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    I'm not sure if I agree with this. If that is the will of the Irish people, then so be it. Not some random lad from Brussels or Enda Kenny who "knows what's good for us" being far superior beings to the rest of us lads.

    They are in this specific matter, because it's their job; Also, Governments / politics usually won't take these kind of decisions without consulting people even more clued in the subject than they are, such as economists and international analysts.

    To put it in layman's term - if you feel sick, you go to the doctor to get a prescription; You don't ask all of your friends what they think the problem is, and then take whatever drug the "majority of them" wants you to :D


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