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Burton, O'Toole or Harris?

  • 03-11-2016 10:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭


    Who was your favourite Hell Raiser?

    Proper, Hollywood Stars, and real actors

    Nothing around like these lads now. The likes of Pitt and Depp make me cringe in comparison.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Oliver Reed

    Tried to shoot down a helicopter flying Keith Moon (No 2 on the list) to his estate to discuss a role in Tommy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Strange thread to start about Joan Burton, Fintan O'Toole and Rolf Harris :confused:

    I'd hardly consider any of them hellraisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭ballyargus


    O'Toole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Oliver Reed

    Tried to shoot down a helicopter flying Keith Moon (No 2 on the list) to his estate to discuss a role in Tommy

    How could I have left him out? Good call sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Hunter S Thompson was a good one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Amanda.ie


    Jack Nicholson.
    Marlon Brando.

    How could you leave these two legends out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Amanda.ie wrote: »
    Jack Nicholson.
    Marlon Brando.

    How could you leave these two legends out?


    Marlon was a Yank, Nicholson ditto (and came into his own a decade or so after these chaps_) These lads proper ran amouk in the 50s and 60s.

    They were proper disgraceful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Dennis Hopper


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Reed was probably the most debauched, but O'Toole was my favourite as he had a certain charm to him. The character he played in My Favourite Year probably didn't require a lot of researching on his part.

    There's an entertaining book about Burton, Harris, O'Toole and Reed and their hellraising available on Amazon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Mr. FoggPatches


    I remember cillian Murphy telling a story about leaving the cap off the toothpaste. Mad hoor .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Dennis Hopper


    A mad Yank. Who could fully compete with the likes of Burton and O'Toole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    O'Toole was as bad. He just hung in there longer.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I'd say a lot of the stories about the above have grown legs over the years. Not saying they were pioneers, but I would say a fair amount of those tales are either exaggerated, or never happened. When faced with truth or myth, always go with myth. It adds to the image, and those lads knew it well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Hell Raiser.

    Another term for a famous person who is a proper c*nt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Hell Raiser.

    Another term for a famous person who is a proper c*nt.

    Give me them any day over the current dross that is churned out by studios. Funny faced posh boys like Benny Cumovermyface & Eddie Redfaced, and Leonardo bland-tummy fat

    I miss proper personalities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    Lemmy,
    Keith Richards,
    Bonzo,
    Keith Moon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    F. Scott Fitzgerald liked to introduce himself as "the alcoholic known as F. Scott Fitzgerald "

    And of course there's Errol Flynn. There's a rumour that the phrase "In like Flynn" was about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Grayson wrote: »
    F. Scott Fitzgerald liked to introduce himself as "the alcoholic known as F. Scott Fitzgerald "

    And of course there's Errol Flynn. There's a rumour that the phrase "In like Flynn" was about him.


    In that case I'll add Ernest Hemmingway to the list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Robert Mitchum or John Ford, though I'd need to get better at drinking whiskey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Robert Mitchum or John Ford, though I'd need to get better at drinking whiskey!


    John Wayne :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Zaph wrote: »
    Reed was probably the most debauched, but O'Toole was my favourite as he had a certain charm to him. The character he played in My Favourite Year probably didn't require a lot of researching on his part.

    There's an entertaining book about Burton, Harris, O'Toole and Reed and their hellraising available on Amazon.

    Read 'raffish' for O'Toole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    MetalDog wrote: »
    Lemmy,
    Keith Richards,
    Bonzo,
    Keith Moon.

    Derek Mooney
    Daniel O'Donnell
    Alan Titchmarsh
    Pat Kenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Has to be Oliver Reed. If you die arm wrestling sailors while blind drunk in Malta, the title is yours I think!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    zeroliner wrote: »
    He was a star.

    No doubt. The charisma burns the screen even in that teeny youtube clip.

    Of the three in the original question, I'd probably say Burton. Look at the amount of marriages for a clue. He had five, the others only had two.

    In between the drinking he managed to marry and divorce Elizabeth Taylor twice.

    Twice.

    He was some boyo.

    Oliver Reed should definitely be in there too. He managed to actually die after a night out drinking - that's commitment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭zeroliner


    Arghus wrote: »
    No doubt. The charisma burns the screen even in that teeny youtube clip.

    Of the three in the original question, I'd probably say Burton. Look at the amount of marriages for a clue. He had five, the others only had two.

    In between the drinking he managed to marry and divorce Elizabeth Taylor twice.

    Twice.

    He was some boyo.

    Oliver Reed should definitely be in there too. He managed to actually die after a night out drinking - that's commitment.

    Taylor was nearly the death of him. They both brought out the worst in eachother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    I only knew Burton from narrating War of the Worlds and his marriages to Elizabeth Taylor but recently came across extracts from his diaries.

    He seemed very self deprecating and self aware. He really had a way with words and was very funny especially when he spoke about Elizabeth Taylor. Also talks about his father and his drinking.

    Anyway in relation to the thread and in his own words "God put me on this earth to raise sheer hell"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    zeroliner wrote: »
    John Wayne :cool:

    Not as big a gargler as his on screen persona would suggest - apparently the benders Ford and McLaglen went on were legendary, and the odd occasion when Wayne went along he barely lasted the first evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Benicio Del Toro. Hes the first to learn to fully cash in on it as well only taking him 15 years to master it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    califano wrote: »
    Benicio Del Toro. Hes the first to learn to fully cash in on it as well only taking him 15 years to master it.

    Yeah, drinking a few half's of Heineken for $$
    Jaysus, he's some man for one man!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    O Toole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    Is it really a fair comparison, now Vs then. Everyone has smart phones now and want to cash in on the celebrity. If Linsey Lohan had her run 40 years ago she'd be known as a fun loving girl instead of a drugged out loon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Shane McGowan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Anyone but Simon Harris or Joan Burton TBH


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    zeroliner wrote: »
    Who was your favourite Hell Raiser?

    Proper, Hollywood Stars, and real actors

    Nothing around like these lads now. The likes of Pitt and Depp make me cringe in comparison.
    But if they were alive today and doing the same things people would be boycotting them and calling for them scum. So we'll never get the likes of them again because the public would be more interested in condemning them for what they do off screen rather than paying attention what they do for a living.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They wake up in the morning and that's the best they'll feel all day." - Dean Martin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    ScumLord wrote: »
    But if they were alive today and doing the same things people would be boycotting them and calling for them scum. So we'll never get the likes of them again because the public would be more interested in condemning them for what they do off screen rather than paying attention what they do for a living.

    I read Keith moons wiki page yesterday. The stuff he got up to would see him locked up nowadays.

    Same with Oliver reed. Imagine a drunken guy saying 'give us a kiss sugartits' to a woman on live tv today. He'd never get any work again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Hell Raiser.

    Another term for a famous person who is a proper c*nt.

    Close your eyes.

    Picture a world where all famous people are nice and well-behaved.

    Yeah.

    See? :)

    The mystery for me is how the industry bosses let them away with it. I mean why not sack them and replace. At no time has society ever been short of aspiring actors.

    I read Hellraisers. I wouldn't dare rank them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Kilboor




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I read Keith moons wiki page yesterday. The stuff he got up to would see him locked up nowadays.

    Same with Oliver reed. Imagine a drunken guy saying 'give us a kiss sugartits' to a woman on live tv today. He'd never get any work again!

    Try Moon's biography "Dear Boy."

    How he even managed to live to 32 is amazing. His adult life was an absolute whirlwind of destruction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    MetalDog wrote: »
    Lemmy,
    Keith Richards,
    Bonzo,
    Keith Moon.

    Ginger Baker deserves to be on that list aswell, one of the few people out there who could honestly state their occupation on FB as full time mad bastard!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    milehip wrote: »
    Ginger Baker deserves to be on that list aswell, one of the few people out there who could honestly state their occupation on FB as full time mad bastard!

    Managed to survive it at all too.

    In his 70s now and still drinks and smokes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Was I the only one who pictured Joan Burton, Joe O'Toole, and Simon Harris?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A remix dedicated to the Great man himself. The legendary hellraiser Keith John Moon, 1946-1978. RIP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    topper75 wrote: »
    Close your eyes.

    Picture a world where all famous people are nice and well-behaved.

    Yeah.

    See? :)

    The mystery for me is how the industry bosses let them away with it. I mean why not sack them and replace. At no time has society ever been short of aspiring actors.

    I read Hellraisers. I wouldn't dare rank them.

    They don't impact my life so whether they are nice or not doesn't matter to me.

    A lot seem to reach a certain point of success and then feel they must act a certain way to keep this manufactured persona relevant.

    How many times have you heard of a band destroying a hotel room before they left, throw a TV out of a window, drive the obligatory Rolls Royce into the swimming pool? It's all so cliché.

    Keith Moon once made his driver drive back to the hotel after they checked out because he forgot to blow up the toilet before he left.

    Rod Stewart said the Faces would regularly destroy hotel rooms because they felt that they weren't getting enough respect!

    Rock 'N Roll though innit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Why do people care what actors are like off the screen.

    It's totally irrelevant and if they have to be "characters" off the screen for you to appreciate them then you must be too interested in their acting in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    zeroliner wrote: »
    Who was your favourite Hell Raiser?

    Proper, Hollywood Stars, and real actors

    Burton & O'Toole were hams & Harris had his moments too in that regard.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Richard Burton had the most intoxicating voice...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    Richard Burton had the most intoxicating voice...

    You'd get pissed off the fumes when he talked alright.


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