Danny Healy-Rae criticises use of electric cars

degsie

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/danny-healy-rae-criticises-use-of-electric-cars-1.2845595

We really need brighter people in the Dail....

Squatter

degsie wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/danny-healy-rae-criticises-use-of-electric-cars-1.2845595

We really need brighter people in the Dail....

Or brighter voters?

In fairness to Dingus Healy-Rae, he only put his name forward for election. We need to blame the 9,991 cretins who decided that he was the besht man for the job of representing them up in Dublin.


EDIT - maybe the mods might merge this thread with: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057593737&page=15?

neris

just heard a segment of him on the radio a while ago talking bout the ozone layer, the guy could barely strings 2 word together

edburg

He kind of has point if car can only do 100km at best and there is no public charge points available or 1 service point to a hundred cars its hard for joe bloggs to justify buying one.

Reading some of the quotes in that thread he may be bit of rocker or been living in lads locker and taking the banter to heart :pac:

AtomicHorror

Even the ****tiest EVs have a range more than 100km. Build the infrastructure and people will drive them.

Now, if he were to argue that charging an electric car off a grid that runs on fossil fuels still damages the environment, he might have a point. But then he'd have to admit that fossil fuels cause climate change, when in fact we know that God causes climate change.

Atlantic Dawn

To a degree he has a point, the facilities are not there to fully support the tiny numbers who have them now and I would doubt our current power setup in the country could even cope with 10% of cars being electrically powered.

degsie

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

To a degree he has a point, the facilities are not there to fully support the tiny numbers who have them now and I would doubt our current power setup in the country could even cope with 10% of cars being electrically powered.

Do you not think the same argument was used when petrol/diesel cars came into being?

eeguy

degsie wrote: »

Do you not think the same argument was used when petrol/diesel cars came into being?

Maybe, but cars took 50 years to become popular, and the infrastructure expanded with them.
The ESB needs to become more proactive in installing fast chargers.

Viable EV's have only be around for less than 10. My next car will be an EV, but I wont be buying until 100kW batteries are common.

sdanseo

That whole side of the Dáil is lacking in brain cells. Between the AAA-PBP-stupid-jumper-and-badge-alliance, the Healy Rae dynasty and the South East's self appointed cardiologist, it's more like an episode of Alan Patridge than a lawmaking chamber.

Atlantic Dawn

degsie wrote: »

Do you not think the same argument was used when petrol/diesel cars came into being?

Not really, if you had a map of the few petrol stations in the country in the early days you simply drove to one of them to refuel, you didn't have to worry about some bellend having their car left charging all day while they went to work or the pumps all not working at the facility.

degsie

I get the impression that Mr Rae's comments are based on his observations in the wilds of Kerry. I'm impressed he can find his way to Kildare St, his neck must be awful sore from looking at all dem high buildings.

Guy:Incognito

I hear those crazy wright brothers are still trying to get people to believe in their crazy ideas. Sure that thing they built only flew 120 feet. Thatll never be any use to anyone.

Jesus.

degsie wrote: »

We really need brighter people in the Dail....

Squatter wrote: »

We need to blame the 9,991 cretins who decided that he was the besht man for the job of representing them up in Dublin.

Why, what has he said about this topic that's incorrect?

Water John

Travel in cities moved from horses to cars in 10 years.

EV's are changing in range even within the limitations of the tech. Any battery development will accelerate the move.

Guy:Incognito

Jesus. wrote: »

Why, what has he said about this topic that's incorrect?

That they only have a range of 100km. There isnt just 1 type.

It's like saying all petrol cars have a range of 500km

Rikand

Danny Healy-Rae criticises use of electric cars

It's not what God intended!

colm_mcm

worth considering that if you only use 1000 litres of home heating oil per year you're emitting 3000 kg of co2 per year.
even if you have a car that is at a supposedly high 150g/km you're still only emiting half that amount over 10000km.
If a focus was out on supplying affordable electric heating to eliminate oil usage in homes it would have a huge impact on co2. insulation helps but there's electricity in every home. no investment in batteries required.
How much co2 is produced by bonfires at Halloween for example?

Mr. FoggPatches

Don't the healy-raes own the filling station down there?

ceegee

Jesus. wrote: »

Why, what has he said about this topic that's incorrect?

He said that the damage to the ozone layer was caused by nuclear testing (incorrect) not cfc's (incorrect) and that legislation regarding cfcs had no part in the recovery of the ozone layer (incorrect). He also said you couldnt do a return journey from Sneem to Caherdaniel in an electric car - a 42km round trip (also incorrect)

yo soy carlos

degsie wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/danny-healy-rae-criticises-use-of-electric-cars-1.2845595

We really need brighter people in the Dail....

No doubt you are a cosmopolitan intelligent person explain to this buffoon your reasoning.

degsie

yo soy carlos wrote: »

No doubt you are a cosmopolitan intelligent person explain to this buffoon your reasoning.

Sorry, I only speak English (and a little Irish)

yo soy carlos

LIGHTNING wrote: »

lol who are you his brother?

Still nobody wants to explain logically the wonders of electric cars and why the Kerryman is so wrong.

yo soy carlos

degsie wrote: »

Sorry, I only speak English (and a little Irish)

I understand why nobody takes you seriously as you cannot tell the truth

Guy:Incognito

yo soy carlos wrote: »

Still nobody wants to explain logically the wonders of electric cars and why the Kerryman is so wrong.

Is the range of every electric car 100km?

Water John

Because EVs will become standard. To Yo Soy.

yo soy carlos

Water John wrote: »

Because EVs will become standard. To Yo Soy.

so that's why healey rae is wrong we are all going to have to conform to the gospel according to Dublin 4 intellectuals like the former leader of the green party who in 2009 reduced tax on diesels to almost nothing only for seven years later to discover they are the biggest pollutants ever.

Water John

I'm a long ways from D4.

Guy:Incognito

yo soy carlos wrote: »

so that's why healey rae is wrong we are all going to have to conform to the gospel according to Dublin 4 intellectuals like the former leader of the green party who in 2009 reduced tax on diesels to almost nothing only for seven years later to discover they are the biggest pollutants ever.

Well?

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is the range of every electric car 100km?

coolbeans

yo soy carlos wrote: »

LIGHTNING wrote: »

lol who are you his brother?

Still nobody wants to explain logically the wonders of electric cars and why the Kerryman is so wrong.

Can't you read? See ceegee's post no. 19.

lotmc

This guys said in the Dail that "if he was travelling in an electric car from Sneem to Caherdaniel in his Kerry constituency, he would not have sufficient power for the return journey"

Sneer to Caherdaniel is 20.8 km, according to google maps

https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Sneem,+Co.+Kerry/Caherdaniel,+Co.+Kerry/@51.7987195,-9.9991779,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x484564753aa82c67:0xa00c7a99731d080!1m2!1m1!1s0x484f88b1fbe6d99b:0xa00c7a99731ea50!3e0

The return journey is therefore 41.6 km.

CHECK HIS EXPENSE CLAIMS!!!!!!

Water John

If his plant hire were digging it for Kerry Co. Co. it might be over 100Km.

Jesus.

Jesus. wrote: »

Why, what has he said about this topic that's incorrect?

ceegee wrote: »

He said that the damage to the ozone layer was caused by nuclear testing (incorrect) not cfc's (incorrect) and that legislation regarding cfcs had no part in the recovery of the ozone layer (incorrect).

Uh Oh!

Guy:Incognito

Jesus. wrote: »

Uh Oh!

And what about the bits that were about the topic that were pointed out?

Water John

Guy on EV thread said he just passed Danny on the M7 in his EV, travelling 50KM faster than Danny.

johnty56

LIGHTNING wrote: »

lol who are you his brother?

Yeah, Gummo.. the lesser known ( Healy Rae) Marx brother

r3nu4l

Jesus. wrote: »

Uh Oh!

Read the thread again, slowly. Others have answered the question you asked...

Cookie_Monster

eeguy wrote: »

The ESB needs to become more proactive in installing fast chargers.

why on earth should it be ESB's problem though. ESB don't provide petrol stations. Leave it to private business to cater for these cars if they can do so with current supply/demand. mandating that ESB have to provide power points everywhere is a waste of time and money for such an organisation.

Water John

It's based on the common good principle. ESB will be able to make income from these in the future.

ZeroThreat

God intended man to be propelled by the internal combustion engine alone!

Water John

Zero, he better eat more beans then.

worded

Would it get you from Cark to Kirry?

Water John

Definitely, from Ballyvourney to Glenflesk.

ZeroThreat

Water John wrote: »

Zero, he better eat more beans then.

Aye, combined with a skateboard, a very economical way of travel.

Jesus.

r3nu4l wrote: »

Read the thread again, slowly. Others have answered the question you asked...

What? I (naturally) asked regarding the topic of this thread. Someone decided to talk about something else. I pointed that out.

But regarding the topic of the actual thread, Healy Rae is correct. EV cars are not practical in Ireland. For years they've been saying they were going to set up more charge points but they haven't. In fact Bob Flavin said they've started charging for certain ones that were supposed to be free.

If you think an electric car is convenient in the boglands of Ireland then you need to get out and around the Country a bit more Sir.

Water John

Ireland is not particular, EVs will become more the norm. In fact being a reasonably small country it suits us more.

bear1

What we need are wind powered and dull bastard weather powered cars. The range would be limitless.
Ev suits Ireland just fine. Can't expect there to be a charging point around every corner can we.
Give it time.

eeguy

Water John wrote: »

Ireland is not particular, EVs will become more the norm. In fact being a reasonably small country it suits us more.

Definitely. There's still a push back from traditional car makers.

I think the ESB should be proactive in installing and maintaining fast chargers around the country. There's money to be made and they're in the best position to make it.

colm_mcm

Do you know how expensive it is to install a public fast charger?

AtomicHorror

Jesus. wrote: »

What? I (naturally) asked regarding the topic of this thread. Someone decided to talk about something else. I pointed that out.

But regarding the topic of the actual thread, Healy Rae is correct. EV cars are not practical in Ireland. For years they've been saying they were going to set up more charge points but they haven't. In fact Bob Flavin said they've started charging for certain ones that were supposed to be free.

If you think an electric car is convenient in the boglands of Ireland then you need to get out and around the Country a bit more Sir.

Healy Rae said several things about EVs, the topic of the actual thread. That they don't help against climate change, that they have a range of 100km and then there was the Sneem to Caherdaniel claim.

That's all on-topic, and it's all garbage.

The claim about practicality is closer to the truth, but what of it? The infrastructure will encourage EV use and that in turn will encourage infrastructure. It'll move out from high-density areas of the country into rural areas over time.

Observing that it hasn't happened yet isn't an argument for anything in particular.

eeguy wrote: »

Definitely. There's still a push back from traditional car makers.

I think the ESB should be proactive in installing and maintaining fast chargers around the country. There's money to be made and they're in the best position to make it.

The Model 3 may help that along, if Tesla can build in the volumes needed.

Wanderer78

its very worrying and disturbing what these two have been coming out with since elected. our political system has a long long way to go but i guess it could be worse, at least its not as bad as the american system.

Jesus.

worded wrote: »

Would it get you from Cark?

I find the 'Rind the Rindabite' girls on the radio pronounce it more like Quirke

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Observing that it hasn't happened yet isn't an argument for anything in particular.

Well it is if you go back a few years and remember how they were saying that at this point in time EV cars would be all the rage. Their predictions were considerably out so perhaps we shouldn't hold our breath for their predictions about the relatively near future.