Fake university degree

irishguitarlad

Have you or do you know anyone that has a fake university degree? Did they manage to get employment out of it? Or were they found out as frauds? Im interested to hear what after hours has to say.

biko

You first OP.

The Wolverine

The HSE here and NHS across the pond show the fakes are well worth the money anyway

TallGlass

Ahh the fake paper till someone actually checks it on the system and it's non existent.

Peregrine

Yeah, I know a doctor who got his degree from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

Skylinehead

Peregrine wrote: »

Yeah, I know a doctor who got his degree from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

With a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg!

Arghus

It's the honoury degrees that are handed out all the time that annoy me. Nothing but pointless PR for all concerned.

Pac1Man

My current employer didn't even ask for my 'credentials'. All those years for nothin! At least look at it yis cúntz!!

Joe Hill

Pac1Man wrote: »

My current employer didn't even ask for my 'credentials'. All those years for nothin! At least look at it yis cúntz!!

Hilarious!!!

Senna

Guy I know had to drop out of his final year of college and never went back, put the degree on his cv for years. He's done fairly well for himself, he's still in his degree area but any job he's applying for now wouldn't be asking for proof of an outdated qualification.

tomwaterford

Arghus wrote: »

It's the honoury degrees that are handed out all the time that annoy me. Nothing but pointless PR for all concerned.

What would happen if someone was to look for work off one of these??

ED E

tomwaterford wrote: »

What would happen if someone was to look for work off one of these??

You don't get them if you actually need to submit a CV for your next role. If you're at the point where you receive an honorary then the firms hunt you down.

Hammer89

I've been working as a gynaecologist for the last five years. No idea what I'm doing.

Alf Stewart.

"Doctor" Ian Paisley.

That is all.

Annasopra

Senna wrote: »

Guy I know had to drop out of his final year of college and never went back, put the degree on his cv for years. He's done fairly well for himself, he's still in his degree area but any job he's applying for now wouldn't be asking for proof of an outdated qualification.

Why not?

riclad

People who are famous actors ,singers get degrees ,its a scam to get publicity for the university .yes its pointless pr . If certain jobs don,t check degrees thats their problem.You still need to pass their interview and be able to do the job.
Many tech jobs ask you to do a basic test to show you understand
programming and how to actually do the job.i wonder do jobs actually ask to see your leaving cert if you are going for a job aged 27,
or do they just look at your cv .

Grayson

riclad wrote: »

People who are famous actors ,singers get degrees ,its a scam to get publicity for the university .yes its pointless pr . If certain jobs don,t check degrees thats their problem.You still need to pass their interview and be able to do the job.
Many tech jobs ask you to do a basic test to show you understand
programming and how to actually do the job.i wonder do jobs actually ask to see your leaving cert if you are going for a job aged 27,
or do they just look at your cv .

I worked for a multinational that did. They would perform a background check on every employee through a third party. They would only check your most recent qualification. So if you had a degree they'd check that but not the leaving cert. If you had a leaving cert and that's it, then your leaving would be checked.

Senna

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why not?

After 30 years’ experience in IT (even after 5-10 years), your experience is everything and your degree is pretty much irrelevant.

BrokenArrows

I have graduated over 10 years ago and i have never once been asked to produce my degree. I honestly dont even know where it is.

4 years just for that one line on my CV.

StupidLikeAFox

TallGlass wrote: »

Ahh the fake paper till someone actually checks it on the system and it's non existent.

What system?

Pat Mustard

Gary Santry: Smurfit Business School

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ucd-appointments-methods-face-criticism-1.338070

Commotion Ocean

I have a degree in bolloxology if that counts.

nice_guy80

funny, cause the one area of employment that there is a verification body for your qualifications is teaching
they go through them with a fine tooth comb

srsly78

As other posters have said, noone ever asks to see your degree. However the large multinationals use a 3rd party to do background checks, you get asked to sign a data protection waiver for this. Noone can even check your degree unless you give them permission!

The 3rd party agencies that do these checks are of course completely incompetent. I had University of Dublin down on CV, and after checking the agency told my employer that there was no record of me attending UCD. I told my boss their assessment was accurate!

IvyTheTerrible

I started a new job here in France in September, they wanted a copy of all my qualifications and to see the originals. They even wanted a copy of the Leaving Cert (and I got that nearly 20 years ago!).

noaddedsugar

Grayson wrote: »

I worked for a multinational that did. They would perform a background check on every employee through a third party. They would only check your most recent qualification. So if you had a degree they'd check that but not the leaving cert. If you had a leaving cert and that's it, then your leaving would be checked.

This was my experience in my current job, also a multinational. They outsourced the back ground checks. I was out of work for six months in between jobs and I even had to get people to vouch for the fact that I was out of work and not in prison or summat.

cml387

Ben Goldacre (Guardian journalist, doctor, skeptic) once got a doctorate for his cat.

bobmalooka

Depends on what field you work in really.

You can forget about full-time mad bastardism if you can't produce the relevant documents from the university of life or school of hard knocks.

El Weirdo

cml387 wrote: »

Ben Goldacre (Guardian journalist, doctor, skeptic) once got a doctorate for his cat.

His dead cat.

The same one as Gillian McKeith.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

noaddedsugar wrote: »

This was my experience in my current job, also a multinational. They outsourced the back ground checks. I was out of work for six months in between jobs and I even had to get people to vouch for the fact that I was out of work and not in prison or summat.

Or what?

Capt'n Midnight

Good old Springfield Heights Institute of Technology.

Arghus

El Weirdo wrote: »

His dead cat.

The same one as Gillian McKeith.

He was responsible for one of the best out downs ever -

"Gillian McKeith, or to call her by her full medical title... Gillian McKeith."

Permabear

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Water John

You can always sign up to Trump University. Oops that's gone.

ZeroThreat

Mr.S wrote: »

I know loads of people that have done that.

I've been asked about my degree lots of times, but never actually been asked for proof by an employer.

Depends on the company though, for the big law firms you often need to produce junior cert results

hmmm I was over on the accounting forums and an employee of one of the big 4 who posts there was saying that they always focus heavily on discussing leaving cert results in all interviews, even if the applicant is well into his her 30s. I replied that I wouldn't remember enough about an exam I took 18 years ago to say anything, nor is it remotely relevant at this stage and the jumped up little b***ix replied to me then that I was obviously too stupid to apply to his prestigious organisation. :rolleyes:

I'd rather work for someone who doesn't dwell so far in past irrelevancies.

evolving_doors

Permabear wrote: »

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How do you remember all that stuff?

Seth Brundle

Sure didn't we have a Taoiseach who made up his third level qualifications?
Look how that ended!

evolving_doors

kbannon wrote: »

Sure didn't we have a Taoiseach who made up his third level qualifications?
Look how that ended!

For him or us?:mad:

I had to produce my parchments for my current job, so it does happen that you're asked.

If I had a job I got by lying, I'd be an anxious mess waiting to be found out.

ZeroThreat

kbannon wrote: »

Sure didn't we have a Taoiseach who made up his third level qualifications?
Look how that ended!

Amazing how someone made it to the position of Minister of Finance with no qualifications & no bank account.

Special Circumstances

kbannon wrote: »

Sure didn't we have a Taoiseach who made up his third level qualifications?
Look how that ended!

"claimed he'd attended UCD and the London School of Economics. His spokesperson said: "He has never claimed to hold degrees from UCD or anywhere else. He remembers doing the courses, but not what they were." Now it emerged that not only was he not a qualified accountant, but that as Finance Minister, he didn't even have a bank account, and was moving large cash sums in mysterious ways."

Classic stuff. Amazing how mad stuff like this fades from the memory over the years. Up there with "won it on the geegees".

Didn't stop him being appointed a visiting professor at NUI Maynooth though!

Surreptitious

Gebgbegb wrote: »

How do you remember all that stuff?

He has a degree.

RobbingBandit

Special Circumstances wrote: »

"claimed he'd attended UCD and the London School of Economics. His spokesperson said: "He has never claimed to hold degrees from UCD or anywhere else. He remembers doing the courses, but not what they were." Now it emerged that not only was he not a qualified accountant, but that as Finance Minister, he didn't even have a bank account, and was moving large cash sums in mysterious ways."

Classic stuff. Amazing how mad stuff like this fades from the memory over the years. Up there with "won it on the geegees".

Didn't stop him being appointed a visiting professor at NUI Maynooth though!

Did stop him being on campus there though. His seminars were held at the Glen Royal iirc.

Your Face

I heard of one lad from foreign lands who uses his high-school diploma to get into technical jobs.
It was down to the wording of the diploma itself - it comes across as an award from a technical institute.

sbsquarepants

Hammer89 wrote: »

I've been working as a gynaecologist for the last five years. No idea what I'm doing.

So what do you do all day? Just fanny about trying to look busy?

irish_goat

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Did stop him being on campus there though. His seminars were held at the Glen Royal iirc.

Think that was to avoid the protests. Original plan was to hold them on campus.

Aglomerado

sbsquarepants wrote: »

So what do you do all day? Just fanny about trying to look busy?

Or getting in a flap?

RiderOnTheStorm

As for Leaving Cert.... My nephew was in a civil service job and whenever he applied for change of department or any type of job change (he found it hard to settle....has best job in the world now, but thats a different story), he had to quote his LC results, even though he was well into 20s. Got to point where he filled in form from memory. Then one time he was hauled up ad he said he got a B in one subject when he really got a C. The feckers actually checked!!

So, I guess it depends on the people you work for (or going to work for) if there will be checking.

batistuta9

What's the reasoning behind asking for LC results?

Fred Swanson

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These kind of post are in general:

Is there any way I can get away with it.

Is there anyway they can avoid doing any academic work and get a qualification.

They have a degree but have a sneaking admiration for the chancre in life, if they have a choice between doing things the correct way or the cute hoors way they always choose the later.

Or

Its not fair that someone they know got a particular job or promotion because they are convinced that a business degree is all waffle any way.