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Your Electricity cost per month comparison

  • 17-10-2016 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭


    Last month we used 369kwh and the bill was €75 . This works out at 20c per unit .

    Per unit - €0.1330
    Standing charge Urban - 33@ €.3653
    PSO Levy was €5
    VAT 13.5%

    So the overall cost per unit was €0.20c

    How does this compare to yours .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Two monthly bill €99.60


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭ssmith6287


    Standing Charge - €23.21
    503 units @ .1665 per unit - €83.75
    Discount for period - €13.40
    Public Service Levy - €9.92
    Sub before VAT - €103.48
    Vat of 13.5% - €13.96
    Total - €117.44

    That's with Energia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    My electric bill is huge.

    Average around €190 for 2 months. In fairness I have a lot of high usage things, like electric shower, tropical fish tank and electric car.

    I really need to start addressing it though. Probably better off using the immersion for a few hours overnight and then using the standard shower. Start switching out bulbs for LED too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Laura_A


    Mine for a 3 bed apartment is €163 per month on level pay with Bord Gais - it has been €50 per week with pre pay power... Cannot figure out what is using so much! Only two of us living there, work full time. Have storage heating that isn't used (got plug in rads as they use less and heat the place quicker). Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day... Can't understand it at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭ssmith6287


    Is the level pay a set rate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Mine is 50euro a month With bord gais level pay.
    3 bed semi, 2 kids 2 adults,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Mine for a 3 bed apartment is €163 per month on level pay with Bord Gais - it has been €50 per week with pre pay power... Cannot figure out what is using so much! Only two of us living there, work full time. Have storage heating that isn't used (got plug in rads as they use less and heat the place quicker). Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day... Can't understand it at all!

    Prepaypower charge a hefty standing charge, which will be a contributory factor to that difference.

    Immersion for 3-4 hours a day is a very hefty amount of time; even if its thermostatically cutting in/out during that time. 6kW wouldn't be an uncommon rating; that's probably 12-15kW a day even assuming the tank is well insulated and it doesn't lose much heat.

    My last bill was an estimate but was within maybe 50 units of reality - 635 units for 2 months, 81.67 + 19.33 standing + 10.02 PSO + 14.99 VAT. Three bed house, oil heating and gas hob, LED lit. Tumble dryer probably uses a third of it alone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Moved to Accommodation & Property

    dudara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Laura_A


    ssmith6287 wrote: »
    Is the level pay a set rate?

    Yes they monitor your first month and then average it and come up with a set rate and you pay that by DD once a month - you still get a two monthly bill so you can see if the rate is accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    I'm in the UK on gas for heating, hot water and hob and electricity for everything else. I'm in a one bed apartment with my OH.

    Last month:

    Elec 137kWh @ 9.4p - £12.88
    Standing charge 30 days at 12.75p - £3.82

    Gas 180.9kWh @ 2.645p - £4.78
    Standing charge 30 days @ 8p - £2.40

    VAT 5% - £1.20

    Total £25.08

    My bills average out to £40/month over the year. My most expensive month this year was February and it cost £80.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭ssmith6287


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Yes they monitor your first month and then average it and come up with a set rate and you pay that by DD once a month - you still get a two monthly bill so you can see if the rate is accurate.
    Do they factor in storage heating, it seems very expensive if that's the price per month, maybe bi monthly for heating/electricity. I know in my old apartment it was 40€ per month set rate for elec so like that I bought oil heaters instead of using the gas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Mine for a 3 bed apartment is €163 per month on level pay with Bord Gais - it has been €50 per week with pre pay power... Cannot figure out what is using so much! Only two of us living there, work full time. Have storage heating that isn't used (got plug in rads as they use less and heat the place quicker). Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day... Can't understand it at all!

    At around €0.50 or so per hour using the immersion for 4 hours a day will cost you around €60+ per month alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    It really depends on the size of property, insulation (BER etc...), no. of people and lifestyle.
    It's very hard to compare properly until you give more details.

    It's like asking how much to you spend on petrol, without tell what car you drive, how long you drive each day etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day

    3-4 hours seems like a lot to me. I'd run mine for an hour max, and not even every day. If I need some hot water, I boil a kettle instead.

    Just pulled out my bill - 2 working adults, 2 bed terraced house

    Usage 402 units €61.88
    Standing charge €22.14
    PSO levy €10.02
    VAT €12.03
    Total €101.12

    So on average, that's 24.7c per unit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    It really depends on the size of property, insulation (BER etc...), no. of people and lifestyle.
    It's very hard to compare properly until you give more details.

    It's like asking how much to you spend on petrol, without tell what car you drive, how long you drive each day etc...

    And it skews it for those who have electrical heating verus central heating.

    One thing I will say is, if you don't do it already, look for the best rates for suppliers for new accounts every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭ssmith6287


    And it skews it for those who have electrical heating verus central heating.

    One thing I will say is, if you don't do it already, look for the best rates for suppliers for new accounts every year.

    How do you check for this? all the comparison site give an average saving but what's that against?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Laura_A


    Yeah looks like I might be way over using - it was on a timer when I moved in so I just left it as it was - bad idea!

    Will change it and see how that affects usage.. Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    ssmith6287 wrote: »
    How do you check for this? all the comparison site give an average saving but what's that against?

    http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/

    If you put your actual usage into the comparison calculator, it will show your potential saving against what you're currently paying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    Well you are heating your home with electricity so your bill is always going to be bigger, plus your probably paying a higher standing charge for night rate which you don't use.

    It cost me about 35 a week for heat and electricity for a 3 bed semi. But that's is oil heating which is way cheaper than electricity atm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ssmith6287 wrote: »
    How do you check for this? all the comparison site give an average saving but what's that against?

    You go to the sites of the different suppliers and see what offers they have for new customers switching to them.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Ours is on average about 120pm
    We have gas heating and cooker,an electric shower which is used alot more then it should as our heating was not heating our water.
    2 Adults,4 children and I am always at home.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Last bill was pretty high, €281. Apartment recently switched to electric heating instead of gas. Used to have free hot water and now pay for it. This has increased things a lot!


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I recently moved so can't really comment on the new place yet but the previous place was 4 bed house with 3 adults living there, electric shower and electric cooker but gas central heating.

    Over my 3 years in the house the electricity bill was on average about 100 euro for two months, lowest was 85 euro and highest was about 115 euro in my time there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭The Mulk


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Mine for a 3 bed apartment is €163 per month on level pay with Bord Gais - it has been €50 per week with pre pay power... Cannot figure out what is using so much! Only two of us living there, work full time. Have storage heating that isn't used (got plug in rads as they use less and heat the place quicker). Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day... Can't understand it at all!

    If you have storage heating your probably on a dual tariff meter paying the following

    The day/night meter unit rates with Electric Ireland are: 20.62 cent per unit (day), 10.19 cent per unit (night). VAT @13.5% included.

    If you've stopped using night rate heating your paying full price tariff for your new panel rads.Plus you don't have a gas /oil bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    The cost used to be 20 cent per unit but we justchanged suppliers so it should go to about 16 or 17. Last bill was 149 EUR for 29 days. That includes water pump for the well for two houses.

    Detached house, 4 bedrooms, Central heating, outside lights on timer during the night, 2 kids, 2 adults, one likes spending time in garage and using powe tools over the weekend. It could be worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    when you need to wash a few dishes etc, just boil kettle. Only put what you need in kettle for tea and coffee etc. I wouldnt imagine immersion would take more than an hour to totally heat the water, it may also have a sink setting, which would do for a shower or obviously washing dishes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭TeaBagMania


    This is for a 3 bed 2 bath home in the US
    909 KWh used = $84
    natural gas is used for water heating, clothes dryer, cooking stove, and forced air home heating.
    in the summer months the gas bill averages $20 per month for water heating, cloths dryer, and stove.
    would be interested in energy costs for a small one bedroom country house in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    We were with ESB for years and changed to Airtricity with an 18 month contract .
    Cant see any difference as we still paying 20c a unit .

    Looking at the posts above though we seem to be doing okay , with some paying up to 25c a unit overall.

    When we joined Airtricity we only looked at one figure . We were paying 16c with ESB and we were offered 13c which we went for .

    However when you look at overall cost of electricity , standing charge , PSO and VAT it seem to work out the same .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    2 adults.

    Heavy users.

    A big portion of this is our two computers that never turn off, and my two fishtanks that keep 300lt heated to 24c, all year round.

    €100 pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    We were with ESB for years and changed to Airtricity with an 18 month contract .
    Cant see any difference as we still paying 20c a unit .

    Looking at the posts above though we seem to be doing okay , with some paying up to 25c a unit overall.

    When we joined Airtricity we only looked at one figure . We were paying 16c with ESB and we were offered 13c which we went for .

    However when you look at overall cost of electricity , standing charge , PSO and VAT it seem to work out the same .

    It depends on your usage. We were on the similar plan with ESB and we switched to same plan with Airtricity. The difference for us is noticeable because our usage is higher so standing charges are smaller proportion per unit.

    I don't know if you used Bonkers for comparison but they calculate your cost on basins of your annual use and suggest the best plan. I find them very handy for that sort of comparisons. There is no point comparing your cost per unit to that of others if your usage isn't the same. On the same plan cost of standing charges and levy will be about 2-3 cent lover per unit for us than for you. Plans with lower standing charges might be more suitable for your usage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    I used my usage figures and put them into the bonkers comparison and wow. I knew bills were more expensive in Ireland but this was crazy.

    I pay £480 per year for gas and electricity. The cheapest I could get in Ireland was €960!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    I used my usage figures and put them into the bonkers comparison and wow. I knew bills were more expensive in Ireland but this was crazy.

    I pay £480 per year for gas and electricity. The cheapest I could get in Ireland was €960!

    I guess its all relative.

    What do you pay for council taxes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    I guess its all relative.

    What do you pay for council taxes?

    £900 a year. For that I don't pay any additional bin charges, water charges or property tax, which could run to several hundred in Ireland anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It depends on your usage. We were on the similar plan with ESB and we switched to same plan with Airtricity. The difference for us is noticeable because our usage is higher so standing charges are smaller proportion per unit.

    I don't know if you used Bonkers for comparison but they calculate your cost on basins of your annual use and suggest the best plan. I find them very handy for that sort of comparisons. There is no point comparing your cost per unit to that of others if your usage isn't the same. On the same plan cost of standing charges and levy will be about 2-3 cent lover per unit for us than for you. Plans with lower standing charges might be more suitable for your usage.

    I used bonkers recently to switch to Airtricity. They were offering a 25% reduction in the unit rate but only available through bonkers.

    Overall I'll save about 3-400 over the year which is a decent bit of money for very very little effort.

    The 150 euro cashback offers might seems like a good deal on the surface but we use about 700kwh every 2 months (250 day, 350 night) so it was worth going for the unit rate reduction. It's going to be more now that it's getting colder too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Average €200x2 monthly for 4 bed house, does not include heating and no immersion. Lots of boiling the kettle though :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,581 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I used my usage figures and put them into the bonkers comparison and wow. I knew bills were more expensive in Ireland but this was crazy.

    I pay £480 per year for gas and electricity. The cheapest I could get in Ireland was €960!

    Expect those bills to rise (likely not to €960 though...) with the Sterling collapse and the power subsidies for Hinckley which will make our PSO subsidy (€80 a year currently, having just increased again) look tiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    2 working adults living in a 4 bed semi d. 1646 kWh over the last 8 months with Energia costing €387.22. That's €48.40 per month at 24c per unit. We have oil heating too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭satguy


    3 bed SD here ,, two adults, one teenager.. Are with Electric Ireland,, Gotta say, its high most bills, Don't now why..
    Maybe I need to move to a new supplier

    hDimEUz.jpg

    Read it and weep..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,137 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Four bed det house, 2A + 2C

    2015 six bills, switched to EI in late 2014

    4,138 units

    Unit price = 16.59 before 15% discount, 14.1 cent after discount, both ex VAT

    Total spent = 876.48, average 146 per bill, or 21.18 cent per unit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    satguy wrote: »
    3 bed SD here ,, two adults, one teenager.. Are with Electric Ireland,, Gotta say, its high most bills, Don't now why..
    Maybe I need to move to a new supplier

    hDimEUz.jpg

    Read it and weep..

    When was the last time you changed provider? If you don't change every year then you lose your discount


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Laura_A wrote: »
    Mine for a 3 bed apartment is €163 per month on level pay with Bord Gais - it has been €50 per week with pre pay power... Cannot figure out what is using so much! Only two of us living there, work full time. Have storage heating that isn't used (got plug in rads as they use less and heat the place quicker). Water pump, immersion on a timer so only on 3-4 hours per day... Can't understand it at all!
    What type lighting do you have ? What rating is your fridge and freezer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    when you need to wash a few dishes etc, just boil kettle. Only put what you need in kettle for tea and coffee etc. I wouldnt imagine immersion would take more than an hour to totally heat the water, it may also have a sink setting, which would do for a shower or obviously washing dishes...

    The dishwasher is the one white good that is more efficient than doing it by hand. It uses a minimal amount if water and only heats what it needs and it heats it to the correct temperature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭air


    About €32 a month on average for a 4 bed semi d with 2 adults.

    Have a 4kW solar PV installed and when the annual microgeneration rebate for that is factored in the monthly cost is around €15.
    I will increase the size of the PV system shortly which should bring the average cost to about €1.50 a month.

    Gas fired CH and a separate solar thermal system for hot water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    air wrote: »
    About €32 a month on average for a 4 bed semi d with 2 adults.

    Have a 4kW solar PV installed and when the annual microgeneration rebate for that is factored in the monthly cost is around €15.
    I will increase the size of the PV system shortly which should bring the average cost to about €1.50 a month.

    Gas fired CH and a separate solar thermal system for hot water.

    How much did you spend on the PV system you need to include that cost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭air


    ted1 wrote: »
    How much did you spend on the PV system you need to include that cost
    I don't have to include it because it is fully paid for & has no associated monthly costs associated with it.
    Total costs will be around €4300 for 6.75kW. May go in roof for the new ones which will drive this up towards €5k. Not factoring in my time for installation.
    Reasonable ROI given savings made are tax free & expected lifetime of the system is over 20 years, inverters are cheap to replace if required in the interim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,007 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    air wrote: »
    I don't have to include it because it is fully paid for & has no associated monthly costs associated with it.
    Total costs will be around €4300 for 6.75kW. May go in roof for the new ones which will drive this up towards €5k. Not factoring in my time for installation.
    Reasonable ROI given savings made are tax free & expected lifetime of the system is over 20 years, inverters are cheap to replace if required in the interim.

    You can't not include it!!! That's like me giving electric Ireland 4,300euro upfront and saying that my bills are zero.

    How long have you had the system ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    L1011 wrote: »
    Expect those bills to rise (likely not to €960 though...) with the Sterling collapse and the power subsidies for Hinckley which will make our PSO subsidy (€80 a year currently, having just increased again) look tiny.

    I'm locked in till next August :)

    I do take your point though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Ghekko


    €192 for 2 months. Must look into ways of reducing that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭air


    2 years.
    I'm not including it because it's a sunk cost at this stage & doesn't affect my cash flow. Obviously the rate of return is a factor which is why I gave the costs.
    If you gave me 4300 up front it would have paid my bills for less than 9 years assuming no price increases. The PV system should do it for 20 years or more. The ROI will improve as energy costs increase and with increasing self consumption on my part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    whoah, electricity is cheap in Ireland. I pay 28c per unit off peak and 32c the rest of the day.


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