You're not going to London next week?

jester77

So, this question was asked during a meeting where I work, and half the group said yes and the other half said no. Yet, no one is actually going.

If you were asked this question, and you were not going, would you answer yes or no?

Fratton Fred

jester77 wrote: »

So, this question was asked during a meeting where I work, and half the group said yes and the other half said no. Yet, no one is actually going.

If you were asked this question, and you were not going, would you answer yes or no?

I'm not, no.

Not until the week after.

WTF is this about?

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

feck off i'm watching motd

B.A._Baracus

What's this in reference to jester?

AvBBrother

Yes, I'm not.

4Ad

Not, I'm yes...

jester77

Context is not so important, just some conference that is in London next week and we were asked who was going to be there for it. Turns out none of us are going.

But we were asked "You're not going to London next week?" and half the group said yes and the other half said no.

Just curious as to how people would answer such a question if they were not going. Would you say yes to confirm the statement, or no to say you are not going.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

"Nope"

CelticRambler

Correct. What made you think I was?

The Backwards Man

You're not serious OP?

meeeeh

No I am not.

You can't really say 'yes I am not going'.

AvBBrother

Just did.

meeeeh

Touche.

endacl

I'm going out of this thread. This thread is weird.

kumate_champ07

legit 1st world problems

foggy_lad

jester77 wrote: »

Context is not so important, just some conference that is in London next week and we were asked who was going to be there for it. Turns out none of us are going.

But we were asked "You're not going to London next week?" and half the group said yes and the other half said no.

Just curious as to how people would answer such a question if they were not going. Would you say yes to confirm the statement, or no to say you are not going.

I'd reply by asking if that was a question or statement? or by simply saying that was fine because I wasn't going anyway.

lawred2

I'd say...

Nope not going

RobertKK

I would answer Yes I am not going to London, as I am going to Austin.

user2011

Okay thanks for letting me know.

Agreed, weird, very weird thread.

Surreptitious

Have ya nawthin else to be thinking about????

Gwynplaine

"He's not there is he?"
"You wouldn't give me a fiver would you?"

Cantona's Collars

Are coke,hookers and beer allowed as expenses?

beks101

"Why would I be going to London next week?"

Lucy8080

You left out an option.

" I am,Yeah."

Just to add to the confusion.

Harvey Normal

I would say no I'm not to that question. Yes I'm not sounds weird although it's probably correct.

poeticjustice

endacl wrote: »

I'm going out of this thread. This thread is weird.

So you're not staying?

Surreptitious

poeticjustice wrote: »

So you're not staying?

He is going to London.

Yes, I'm not going!

degsie

Where's London?

Fred Swanson

This post has been deleted.

meeeeh

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Capital of the stupidest nation on earth.

Are you sure it's in US.

meeeeh

meeeeh wrote: »

Are you sure it's in US.

Yes

The King of Moo

"I'm not, no" would be the most common and comprehensible answer.

"Yes" would be confusing because it could mean "Yes, I'm going to London," or that you agree with the person's statement that you're not going to London.

A simple "no" would also be confusing, as it could be interpreted as disagreeing with the statement, which would therefore mean you were going to London.

So "I'm not, no" is best as it's clear.

Good night.

As an esl teacher, this exact thing came up for me before in a really good class. The whole class said "yes" so I tried to correct them.

I don't actually know which is correct but I'll definitely pull up this vote if it ever happens again. Kids with egos complain a lot when they think the teacher is wrong.

degsie

meeeeh wrote: »

Are you sure it's in US.

Are you sure it's not in the US?

LordSutch

jester77 wrote: »

You're not going to London next week?

So, this question was asked during a meeting where I work, and half the group said yes and the other half said no. Yet, no one is actually going.

If you were asked this question, and you were not going, would you answer yes or no?

No I'm not going next week either, but I will be over before Christmas to visit friends.

I presume you're talking about an anti with Brexit march? or is there another gig in Town? What's happening in London next week?

LordSutch

LordSutch wrote: »

No I'm not going next week either, but I will be over before Christmas to visit friends.

I presume you're talking about an anti with Brexit march? or is there another gig in Town? What's happening in London next week?

He's asking about the grammar. If you're not going, do you say "yes" or "no"..

pickarooney

English doesn't have a 'doch' so should avoid negative questions. There's no point in phrasing a question this way unless you know the answer is negative and you actually mean 'why are you not going?'

Presumably the tone of the question implied 'just confirming that you're not going'

That said, the person asking the question and everyone who said yes should all be executed.

pickarooney

pickarooney wrote: »

English doesn't have a 'doch' so should avoid negative questions. There's no point in phrasing a question this way unless you know the answer is negative and you actually mean 'why are you not going?'

Presumably the tone of the question implied 'just confirming that you're not going'

That said, the person asking the question and everyone who said yes should all be executed.

I was just gonna reply doch

I suppose you'd have to go beyond y/n and say correct / I'm not going or similar

osarusan

No, I'm not.

But there are languages, such as Japanese, in which it is natural to reply with "yes, I am not" because the Yes agrees with the negative form of the question.

Pac1Man

This all sounds very pretentious.

The Rape of Lucretia

The correct answer is 'no'. And this would be most people's instinctive answer to it in this case. It is only when people think about it, or it is asked in a theoretical way or test as in the office situation above, that some people start to think about it, and are misled by a false logic and end up answering yes. If they were truly asked it a real situation, they also would likely have answered no even if they answer yes in your office sampling. The test as done in the op is not a true test and the result misleading.

The 'question' is not really a question. It is the asking for confirmation of the askers guessed answer to the implied question 'are you going to London next week?'. That questioning element being conveyed only in the tone of voice and not the grammar, and the asker guessing/assuming already that the answer is 'No, I am not going to London'. By saying 'no', the answerer is using a shorthand to confirm that that same statement that was put to them is what they would answer to the implied question, the remainder of which would also be 'no, I am not going to London', or, 'no, Im not' which enforces the clarification.

wetlandsboy

Somewhat analogous to this was the question posed in the referendum on the abolition of the Seanad a number of years ago, where a Yes vote was not a Yes to keep the Seanad, but rather it was a Yes for its abolition. I reckon that a substantial number of voters were confused and voted incorrectly.

J.pilkington

I take it it was the OP who asked the confusing question (judging by their confusing opening post)

I'll go if nobody else is.

SnakePlissken

jester77 wrote: »

So, this question was asked during a meeting where I work, and half the group said yes and the other half said no. Yet, no one is actually going.

In that case those of you who answered no should be taken out to the office car park and shot with super soakers filled with piss

wetlandsboy

wetlandsboy wrote: »

Somewhat analogous to this was the question posed in the referendum on the abolition of the Seanad a number of years ago, where a Yes vote was not a Yes to keep the Seanad, but rather it was a Yes for its abolition. I reckon that a substantial number of voters were confused and voted incorrectly.

In the Brexit referendum, they avoided that ambiguity by stating the answer to be "remain" or "leave", so here the answers could have been "keep" or "abolish".

blinding

Yes I am not going....

But yeah..no...I am already in London .

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

meeeeh wrote: »

No I am not.

You can't really say 'yes I am not going'.

It's a negative question, so the correct answer (if you are not going) is Yes.

Yes, I am not going to London next week.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I was at a union meeting many years ago where a vote was called on a proposal such as "We will not pass the other union's pickets".

The vote was taken and later it emerged that people not wishing to pass the pickets had voted No while others feeling the same had voted Yes.

Negative questions are best avoided.

Father Hernandez

My brain hurts from this thread..