HELL IN A CELL PRE & LIVE SHOW THREAD

Lithium93_

2nd RAW only PPV, 5 matches announced so far, 3 of those to take place inside the Cell

Hell in a Cell match for the WWE Universal Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Seth Rollins

Hell in a Cell match for the WWE United States Championship
Roman Reigns (c) vs. Rusev

Hell in a Cell match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship
Sasha Banks (c) vs. Charlotte

Singles match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship[13]
T.J. Perkins (c) vs. Brian Kendrick

Tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. Cesaro and Sheamus

More matches TBD I'd imagine.

Agent Coulson

PPV Burnout at this stage for me.



Does anyone know if the WWE still do traditional PPV through cable providers in the States or are they only available on the Network there.

Lithium93_

I've only read about the PPV's the following day.. It's like a PPV every 3/4 weeks now..

Itssoeasy

I'm similar as I watched clash of champions eventually and haven't watched no mercy but a friend told me last night that the world title and IC match were great so I will probably watch them. But yeah the novelty of a ppv was it was a once a month thing.

PTH2009

read somewhere that there still unsure what to do with Chris Jericho as regards HIAC

I can see him being the special ref with him either turning on KO or making KO lose and KO will kick the crap out of him (writing him off tv for a while) or Seth will attack him after the match

hopefully he sticks around til After the rumble and then go to fozzy land (who are a horrible band btw and only make there money off y2j lol)

jaykhunter

Since SummerSlam I've now cut out RAW & SD. I'll listen to a podcast +/- highlights on YouTube. You can't expect fans to just add 3 hours to their month, after just asking them to watch 2 hours of Smackdown again, on top of pre-shows and post-show talk shows, nevermind adding an extra hour to SummerSlam and RAW overrun...

Aug 21 S'Slam
Sep 11 Backlash
Sept 14 CWC Finale (listed as Network event on Wikipedia)
Sep 25 COC
Oct 9 No Mercy
Oct 30 HIAC
Nov 19 NXT Toronto
Nov 20 S'Series

That's 8 Specials in 13 weeks -- or 1 less than every 12 days.

J. Marston

Charlotte vs Sasha is the main event according to Foley...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1440544925975641&substory_index=0&id=126269440736536&__tn__=%2As

Lord TSC

While I'm all for equality, the reality is that the Sasha/Charlotte match will main event not because its the best story with the best characters and the best build, but because they want to pat themselves on the back for letting the women main event.

sky88

Lord TSC wrote: »

While I'm all for equality, the reality is that the Sasha/Charlotte match will main event not because its the best story with the best characters and the best build, but because they want to pat themselves on the back for letting the women main event.

Honestly it probably is the best storyline on raw but admittedly the bar is not high.

DM_7

I guess to be considered main event they need to be in it on a regular basis for people to believe it.

J. Marston

I wouldn't mind it being main event if I wasn't completely sick of the story and the obvious outcome.

Adiboo

Sure the first match last week was the main event. They could put it anywhere in the card now and still try to call it a main event.

CSF

They've given it enough of a push IMO for it to be a genuine main event IMO. They're making the women's division into more and more of a big deal which is great.

Itssoeasy

Well he's backtracked on that comment about the girls being the main main event(last match on) and is saying that the card order isn't set until a few hours until the event starts.

Bounty Hunter

I really like how they are making the woman such a big deal but I still don't like how they are dealing with this match and the fact that it comes across as them having a HIAC match because the woman want to show "we can do it too" instead of because the storyline was gone so far that the only way to settle it is inside the hellacious HIAC structure and that the fact that they are going into the cell actually has the two women (or at the very least the one who didn't propose the stip) scared about how this stipulation match shortens careers etc I mean it would be an easy sell for Charlotte to try and beat this point home for Sasha after her recent injuries / near injuries when they faced each other in less extreme matches.

the groutch

what annoys me so much is that Steph has to continuously stick her nose in there to take credit that she isn't due.
they're getting over because they're great wrestlers who are finally allowed to do what they do best, instead of being held back by the Total Divas BS or backstage politicking.

JP Liz V1

Is this the first women's HIAC match?

Bounty Hunter

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is this the first women's HIAC match?

yep.

Actually as much as I really enjoy her work Sasha mentioning the womens revolution in every promo of hers is starting to annoy me too. Some thing just work better when left unsaid (and therefore not seemingly like the point is being forced). If they had to talk about it they if anything should be saying the opposite when commentators or whoever go on about how they are leading the womens revolution with such moments and point out that it isn't anything special that women are doing what they are doing because women can do anything men can do etc

JP Liz V1

The final card for the ppv this Sunday:-

Hell In a Cell for the WWE Universal Title
Seth Rollins vs. Kevin Owens (c)

Hell In a Cell Match for the WWE United States Title
Rusev vs. Roman Reigns (c)

Hell In a Cell for the WWE RAW Women’s Title Match
Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks (c)

WWE RAW Tag Team Title Match
Cesaro and Sheamus vs. The New Day (c)

WWE RAW Cruiserweight Title Match
Brian Kendrick vs. TJ Perkins (c)

Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson

Bayley vs. Dana Brooke

Virtanen

Don't forget this is at 12am (pre-show 11pm) because of the time difference with our clocks going back. Same with all programming for a week before the US put theirs back next Saturday

CastorTroy

Bayley and/or Enzo matches on preshow, I would guess.

Lithium93_

Bayley's been relegated to pre-show.

PTH2009

Either Triple H or y2j too cost Seth the title

can see y2j being suspended (keyfabe) on Raw monday for doing something ie (title rematch on raw if y2j interferes he will suspended and he will interfere), as he not listed for the Glasgow Raw show (but is for the tour)

Omackeral

CastorTroy wrote: »

Bayley and/or Enzo matches on preshow, I would guess.

There's a 6 man Crusierweight tag on the Pre-show.

Cedric Alexander, Sin Cara & Lince Dorado

vs

Drew Gulak, Tony Nese and Ariya Daivari

citytillidie

Remember folks the clocks went back last night so the pre show will be at 11 and main show kick off at midnight

Lithium93_

Charlotte/Sasha's match to close out Hell In A Cell tonight

Loughc

Is anyone else wwe network not working?

martyos121

Hope they split these HIAC matches up. One to start the show, one in the middle and one in the main event. Three in a row will make them utterly forgettable.

Lithium93_

martyos121 wrote: »

Hope they split these HIAC matches up. One to start the show, one in the middle and one in the main event. Three in a row will make them utterly forgettable.

That's what I saw on Reddit's Squared Circle

One to start, one in the middle, and one to end the show

Lithium93_

Rusev/Reigns - strong opening match....

martyos121

Great way to open the show, doubt anyone will top that.

Angron

Urgh. Keep Roman strong.

764dak

The Women's Title match is going to end the PPV.

Lithium93_

764dak wrote: »

The Women's Title match is going to end the PPV.

Well that ends they "Will they/Won't they".. Hope they deliver on the opportunity.

Angron

I love me some fire extinguisher spots.

Lithium93_

Jericho's interference, we all saw that coming.

PTH2009

What did Jericho say ?

Watching with no sound

Clegg

Cruiserweight title match has no heat. Crowd doesn't give a ****. WWE has already made a mess of the cruiser division.

J. Marston

Clegg wrote: »

Cruiserweight title match has no heat. Crowd doesn't give a ****. WWE has already made a mess of the cruiser division.

Yep. Kendrick just won to crickets.

Lithium93_

RAW TALK after the PPV, it's like WWE are trying to burn out their own audience..

Bret Hart

No one does hold a grudge like Vinnie Mac.

Angron

F*ck off. F*ck right off.

Clegg

Still have a problem with the cruiserweight match. WWE was coming off the best programming they've done in years in the CWC. It got a ton of relatively unknown wrestlers over with the crowd and audience on the Network.

It created three different stories coming out of it. Perkins road to the championship. From homelessness to tournament winner and inaugural Cruiserweight Champion. Kendrick's quest to show he wasn't washed up and still had one great run left in him. And Cedric Alexander being so unlucky in not qualify for the semi finals but showing the heart of a champion by going toe to toe with a world renowned superstar in Ibushi (plus having a WWE MotY contender to boot).

But WWE did nothing with it. They barely get any promo time. The matches only last a couple of minutes and involve everyone on the roster so there's not enough time for wider audience to become invested in them. Raw is a 3 hour show so there no excuse to not give them more time. But their booking is atrocious. Please God move them to Smackdown where they'll.at least get some room to grow.

Lithium93_

How long until The New Day break Demolitions record?

Angron

I should be excited for this moment, but I just can't care after Reigns and New Day retaining.

daithi1989

That Tag Title match gonna annoy alot in Fantasy comp!

Lithium93_

Why wasn't the Cell lowered before Charlotte came out, someone in the back done screwed up.

Clegg

Not quite as big a fan of Sasha as some are. Think she's a bit too eager to go out there and hurt herself. Charlotte is very, very good though. Not as athletic as Sasha but very poised and confident in the ring. Much improved from where she was early on in NXT. Plus she can actually cut a promo which helps.

Btw this match should never have gone on last. I usually ignore the IWC whining but for once they're dead on with it. The first ever PPV to be headlined by a Womens Title match needs to feel like a momentus occasion. This feud went off the rails after they hotshotted the title to.Sasha a few weeks before Summerslam. Title has changed hands too many yimes recently to.build up suspense. Plus the build for Hell in a Cell has been mostly about how proud they are for naking history as women in the main event and in the cell for the first time. That's not how you build a feud. Make it mean something.

It'll be a good match and they'll.beat the tar out of each other in a blood feud sort of way but it'll be wholly incongruent with the way the story was presented.

J. Marston

Sasha crying again.

764dak

Clegg wrote: »

Not quite as big a fan of Sasha as some are. Think she's a bit too eager to go out there and hurt herself. Charlotte is very, very good though. Not as athletic as Sasha but very poised and confident in the ring. Much improved from where she was early on in NXT. Plus she can actually cut a promo which helps.

Btw this match should never have gone on last. I usually ignore the IWC whining but for once they're dead on with it. The first ever PPV to be headlined by a Womens Title match needs to feel like a momentus occasion. This feud went off the rails after they hotshotted the title to.Sasha a few weeks before Summerslam. Title has changed hands too many yimes recently to.build up suspense. Plus the build for Hell in a Cell has been mostly about how proud they are for naking history as women in the main event and in the cell for the first time. That's not how you build a feud. Make it mean something.

It'll be a good match and they'll.beat the tar out of each other in a blood feud sort of way but it'll be wholly incongruent with the way the story was presented.

That's what I don't like about this revolution. It insists upon itself.

sky88

I cringe any time sash a takes a bump