Silverbanks Baldoyle

UnaAnn87

Hi guys. just noticed a new development going ahead in Baldoyle (beside the Coast development). Can anyone tell me more about this area as we are interested in the apartments when they become available. I've noticed the lack of footpath on that stretch of road which is dangerous considering there are Dublin Bus stops on it. Any more information on the area in general would be much appreciated!
TIA

Hollister11

I received this off the estate agent

We will have a range of different properties in this scheme launching in early spring to include the following;

1 Bed Apartments

2 Bed Apartments

3 Bed Apartments

3 Bed Duplex

4 Bed Houses



The site is phenomenal and boasts panoramic sea views which you would of seen in the advert with protected land never to be built on in front. Prices are not yet set but I can give you a guide if you let me know what is of interest? Roughly speaking there will be prices from approximately €160,000 - €395,000 depending on house types.

maire38

Hi I am interested on 2 bed apartment do you have any knowledge of the price and when more exact will be available to buy...?

gabria

Hello I am preparing to view the showhouses next month in this development. I cycled around the development today, it looks well progressed and tidy, however will reserve buyers judgement until the builders fences come down

I am going to contact the agent for an update on the showing and some other questions, but I am wondering if anyone is familiar with the general Coast development / red arches estate. I just noticed a few of the existing houses unoccupied and though not too much of a concern I wonder has any part of the estate been earmarked for social housing ?

Anyone know about the playing pitches and parkland nearby, which is near a little river. Any problems with flooding or swampy ground ?

Hollister11

I have been living in the estate since 2006. In fact I think we were one of the first people to move in. The Coast is quiet, safe area. There are great transportation links with Clongriffin (10Minutes) and Bayside (15Minutes) away. You also have access to the 102, 32, 15 and 29A bus routes.

In regards to the empty houses, some are social housing, but the majority are privately owned. I'm not sure if the council privately rents some properties to house people, or if they own them physically. I'm not so sure the playing pitches (Baldoyle racecourse park) are near a river, but the park adjacent to the developments is close to Baldoyle estuary. No floods ever, but sometimes the parks become waterlogged grass. Nothing to severe, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Baldoyle has everything you would expect schools, supermarkets, takeaways and pubs. It's a quiet area, and I have been leaving there all my life. It certainly isn't a posh area, but it's not a kip. A quiet, small town where you can live, and raise your family safely.

If you have any specific questions, your more than welcome to ask.

Baldoyle123

Hi. I just received an email from Savills with provisional prices. 1 bed apartment from €160000, 2 bed apartment from €250000, 2 bed house from €270000, 3 bed apartment/duplex from €275000 & 4 bed house from €375000.

mel123

Personally i think these prices are too - probably aimed at the first time buyers, but id be really careful as to what to buy if your thinking about it. The area of Baldoyle is lovely, you cant fault it, id just be worried that the value of these houses/apartments would end up like, look at all the other big developments in the area (and not just Baldoyle for the record).

Baldoyle123

They are definitely more expensive than I thought they'd be. From €270000 for a 2 bed terraced house with no garden seems steep.

Hollister11

My parents bought a bed Semi in the coast in 2006 for 650K, it's now worth 475 - 500K. So the prices for the new builds are pretty cheap tbh.

gabria

Baldoyle123 wrote: »

They are definitely more expensive than I thought they'd be. From €270000 for a 2 bed terraced house with no garden seems steep.

Those particular houses are the southernmost located, if you look on the brochure. Also just over 1000 sq ft for a 2 bed house is alright IMO.

Overall I think the prices are not bad but also have to think about the property management fees, I've asked the agent this but might be a bit early to know?

Baldoyle123

The first phase in Belltree had 3 bedroom houses with gardens from €295000. There's a 3 bedroom house for sale in Clongriffin for €230000 & a 2 bed semi detached house for €235000. Also in silverbanks, the 3 bed duplex/apartments are only 5k dearer than the 2 bed house.

Hollister11

gabria wrote: »

Those particular houses are the southernmost located, if you look on the brochure. Also just over 1000 sq ft for a 2 bed house is alright IMO.

Overall I think the prices are not bad but also have to think about the property management fees, I've asked the agent this but might be a bit early to know?

For residents in the coast, management fees are about 600 PA

eoinola

onlly 55 units available - will there be a big line and a scramble at the gate?

Hollister11

eoinola wrote: »

onlly 55 units available - will there be a big line and a scramble at the gate?

Phase 1.

gabria

Baldoyle123 wrote: »

The first phase in Belltree had 3 bedroom houses with gardens from €295000. There's a 3 bedroom house for sale in Clongriffin for €230000 & a 2 bed semi detached house for €235000. Also in silverbanks, the 3 bed duplex/apartments are only 5k dearer than the 2 bed house.

All of those are getting further to the flight path of crossing planes though. Particularly Beltree, I was there once and there was a big sonic boom from the planes passing almost directly overhead. Phase I of Silverbanks is OK, but anywhere north of Clongriffin station is going to have these issues. Such noises may not put one off buying but may put off prospective tenants or the next buyers

SKC101

Hi,

Spoke to the estate agent this week and they are expecting the prices to increase between €10-€15k for apartments and also they do not come with any flooring. Just bathrooms and kitchen cabinets

eoinola

SKC101 wrote: »

Hi,

Spoke to the estate agent this week and they are expecting the prices to increase between €10-€15k for apartments and also they do not come with any flooring. Just bathrooms and kitchen cabinets

thats not good! Probably as a result of the help to buy scheme..

Hollister11

Is there a viewing tonight?

Theres about 5/6 quesing across the road from them atm.

Baldoyle123

Hollister11 wrote: »

Is there a viewing tonight?

Theres about 5/6 quesing across the road from them atm.

Hi, I think there's a viewing on Thursday 16th from 1-3pm. But they might be having one today as well.

CFC007

Baldoyle123 wrote: »

Hi, I think there's a viewing on Thursday 16th from 1-3pm. But they might be having one today as well.

Let us know if you hear of a viewing happening today!

quinda

No viewing until Thursday. Those in the queue are waiting for 1pm Thursday. Sleeping bags at the ready. Crazy stuff

mel123

The boom is back
http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/hopefuls-queue-overnight-to-get-a-foot-in-the-door-35455683.html

Hollister11

The estate is packed. Jesus Christ.

mel123

mel123 wrote: »

The boom is back
http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/hopefuls-queue-overnight-to-get-a-foot-in-the-door-35455683.html

"Malahide resident XYZ (46) started queuing at 11.45am yesterday.
"It is a good opportunity for an investment," she said.

"I'm looking for a one-bed apartment and it would be quite handy to have it here as we are only up the road.

"I have been living in Malahide for 12 years and we think the time is right for an investment like this but we have been looking for two months."


......... hard to imagine someone being happy to speel on about a good investment opportunity a few years after €160k could have bought so much more. Named in the indo too.

Col_30

Augeo wrote: »

"Malahide resident XYZ (46) started queuing at 11.45am yesterday.
"It is a good opportunity for an investment," she said.

"I'm looking for a one-bed apartment and it would be quite handy to have it here as we are only up the road.

"I have been living in Malahide for 12 years and we think the time is right for an investment like this but we have been looking for two months."


......... hard to imagine someone being happy to speel on about a good investment opportunity a few years after €160k could have bought so much more. Named in the indo too.

She's about 4 years too late!

mel123

Augeo wrote: »

"Malahide resident XYZ (46) started queuing at 11.45am yesterday.
"It is a good opportunity for an investment," she said.

"I'm looking for a one-bed apartment and it would be quite handy to have it here as we are only up the road.

"I have been living in Malahide for 12 years and we think the time is right for an investment like this but we have been looking for two months."


......... hard to imagine someone being happy to speel on about a good investment opportunity a few years after €160k could have bought so much more. Named in the indo too.

Im no property guru, but i follow the market with interest as the family are in it, i do not see how these are an investment...at all!!!!

A good investment buy would be around the city/smithfield/stonybatter etc etc with the college, but I dont see any investment opportunity around Baldoyle. Its a great neighbourhood IMO, great transport links, but to me them prices are just way too high.

Hollister11

I don't think investors should be allowed into these new builds. First priority should be able who plan on living there.

Col_30

Col_30 wrote: »

She's about 4 years too late!

Yup, we all know prices fluctuate but buying for investment now after sharp increases in resent years coupled with the CGT relief no longer being available (the thing introduced in 2011, was extended to 2016 iirc) is IMO looney.

Talk about missing the boat.

Hollister11

Just back from the viewing. The houses are nice, but not huge. Good value imo. The 1100sq ft house are 370. In 2006 1400sqft houses sold for 650+ but they included gardens.

The penthouse is amazing looking. I wonder how much that's selling for.

CFC007

Was 370k a typo for 1100sq ft?

Hollister11 wrote: »

Just back from the viewing. The houses are nice, but not huge. Good value imo. The 1100sq ft house are 370. In 2006 1400sqft houses sold for 650+ but they included gardens.

The penthouse is amazing looking. I wonder how much that's selling for.

Samuel T. Cogley

CFC007 wrote: »

Was 370k a typo for 1100sq ft?

From what I've seen that's correct. Pretty standard for the area.

Hollister11

CFC007 wrote: »

Was 370k a typo for 1100sq ft?

Nope. 370 is the price.

festygirl

That is a typo the 4 bedso are 1663 square feet and they are big

Hollister11

festygirl wrote: »

That is a typo the 4 bedso are 1663 square feet and they are big

OH!! Didn't feel bug today, but I suppose it's over 3 stories.

Samuel T. Cogley

http://search.savills.com/en-ie/property-detail/gbnewhdun160627#/r/detail/GBNEWHDUN160627

4 beds were 370K where they? That's actually not too bad. I thought the 3 bed duplexes or what ever they were were the 370K ones.

Samuel T. Cogley

Hollister11 wrote: »

OH!! Didn't feel bug today, but I suppose it's over 3 stories.

Yeah I'm a bit dubious on the sizes there too. Looking at the plans (which aren't scaled to be fair but you can judge from the beds/sinks etc.) either I'm in a bigger house than I thought or 1663sq foot is quite 'generous'. They look closer to 1300-1400. Not overly enamored with the layout of the 4 bed but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Perhaps including the patio in the measurements? Is that all you get in terms of outside?

Edit: Actually quite taken with the 2 beds how much did they go for?

Hollister11

From 245K. 764 sq ft.

festygirl

The 2 beds were 270, the 4 beds have been generous storage spaces also

Hollister11

festygirl wrote: »

The 2 beds were 270, the 4 beds have been generous storage spaces also

That's the townhouses. The apartments were 245K.

Your right, there's alot of storage space.

gabria

I am today. Joined the queue no earlier than 12.30, I didn't want to get caught up in the booking madness, and knew from the point of joining that it would be difficult to get even near the gold-dust two bed terrace. in the end had to be satisfied with getting a look at the four-bed terrace, rowan house and the courtyard.

On to the next phase then, they said this is going to be launched very soon as well. I think they are all in the same structure as Rowan house, most of which looked neat

Its every man for himself from here on in ....

Hollister11

The queue formed on Tuesday at lunch time. So joining today was always going to make your chance of getting a property unlikely.

jus_me

Hi everyone,
Has anyone managed to secure an apartment in Rowan House yesterday?
I managed to get one after queuing. The people in the queue were fab and great crack!!

gabria

I was left with the choice of the pokey 2 bed apartment on the ground floor so I had to pass .
Fortunately yes there were no nasty people around the queue. I chatted away civilly with "the competition" whilst waiting
Another lengthy queue probably for todays viewings though? I'm not going

Baldoyle123

I went up to see them today. The 2 bed houses looked lovely but they are all sold out & they won't have anymore in the next phase. I didn't like the 4 bed house. I thought the kitchen was very small & wasn't mad about the layout. The 3 bed penthouse apartment was lovely, but unless I win the lotto, I won't be getting it. The next phase will have about 150, so hopefully I might get something then.

Hollister11

Baldoyle123 wrote: »

I went up to see them today. The 2 bed houses looked lovely but they are all sold out & they won't have anymore in the next phase. I didn't like the 4 bed house. I thought the kitchen was very small & wasn't mad about the layout. The 3 bed penthouse apartment was lovely, but unless I win the lotto, I won't be getting it. The next phase will have about 150, so hopefully I might get something then.

Did you find out how much the penthouse is?

Baldoyle123

Hollister11 wrote: »

Did you find out how much the penthouse is?

I think it was €365000. But they said it & a couple of other ones were sale by private treaty. I'm not 100% sure what that means. I did hear that a 1 bed penthouse apartment sold by private treaty before they were even launched. Someone emailed Savills with an offer which was accepted.

Samuel T. Cogley

Private Treaty is essentially just the normal process AFAIK.

Sounds like someone knew the developers, which is fair enough - it's not a public service they're providing it's a private business.

gabria

Baldoyle123 wrote: »

I think it was €365000. But they said it & a couple of other ones were sale by private treaty. I'm not 100% sure what that means. I did hear that a 1 bed penthouse apartment sold by private treaty before they were even launched. Someone emailed Savills with an offer which was accepted.

one of them was that price as it was the show unit, the other 3 bed place was 335000 with a little less floor-space and no flooring installed. Be intrigued to see how these private treaties went. They are a bit out of my price-range as well, and I am not so sure about the "funky warehouse" look that seems to be the norm for these Irish penthouses. I think the management fees are a lot steeper for these too

Baldoyle123

I just heard from Savills. The maintenance fees for the houses in phase 1 will be approximately €510 & the maintenance fees for phase 2 will be approximately €670.

Hollister11

The coast currently for 3 bed houses with the garage is <500.

Also the council is taking over The Coast, so I don't see why they are not taking over Silverbanks and thus no management fees.

athtrasna

Hollister11 wrote: »

The coast currently for 3 bed houses with the garage is <500.

Also the council is taking over The Coast, so I don't see why they are not taking over Silverbanks and thus no management fees.

Taking in charge does not automatically mean no management fees, in fact councils almost never take everything in charge in a development.