07 Mondeo cop car?

Tilikum

I was diving home on Monday night and a unmarked garda car had pulled over a car at the lights across from Dunnes at west side.

It was a 07 white ford Mondeo. Was this two lads acting the maggot? Surely to God the guards aren't driving around in 10 year old cars? I couldn't see the reg full at the time.

Has anyone seen that car before? The only unmarked car I've seen pulling on that road is a dark blue/black one.

biko

"Cop" car? Are you American?

On topic, afaik Gardai don't use old cars but then I don't know for sure.

_Brian

Yea.
See an '07 Mondeo unmarked car here all the time.

Dale Parish

They have a 04 Ford Focus in Limerick (unmarked)

Special Circumstances

Jaysus, shur FBD wouldn't even insure that if it had normal "SD&P" mileage on it!

"You must be able to agree with all of the following assumptions in order to take out a valid Policy of Insurance with us.
The Quick Car Insurance quote assumes that your car is under 8 years old "

The guards are actually rolling around in day in day out in something one of Ireland's home grown insurers wouldn't cover you to go as far as the shop for milk in.

Del2005

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Jaysus, shur FBD wouldn't even insure that if it had normal "SD&P" mileage on it!

"You must be able to agree with all of the following assumptions in order to take out a valid Policy of Insurance with us.
The Quick Car Insurance quote assumes that your car is under 8 years old "

The guards are actually rolling around in day in day out in something one of Ireland's home grown insurers wouldn't cover you to go as far as the shop for milk in.

The benefits of not needing insurance.

Special Circumstances

Del2005 wrote: »

The benefits of not needing insurance.

Depends on your point of view. If there are major irish insurers unwilling to cover these cars then i don't see why the guards should suffer them for general use.

emo72

Seen an old Mondeo on the longmile road too. Armed Garda pulled someone. Looked like an 05 or something. Was surprised at how old the car was. I suppose if they are well maintained and running good, then what harm. Getting great value for money there aren't we?

whippet

i was pulled over last year on the M7 by a 2003 Focus .. perfect unmarked car for traffic work, i had to look twice to even realise it had its lights on.

GM228

There is no age limit on Garda vehicles, just a mileage limit. Garda policy requires that cars be replaced no later than when they clock up 160,000 km.

Mister Jingles

Ive seen them use a 02 mondeo up until two weeks ago

boardsuser1

Loads of 06 unmarked mondeo's here in Cork and the odd 05.

Special Circumstances

Aviva wrote:

02? Unbelievably reckless.

Putting lives at risk really!

FBD wrote:

02? Unbelievably reckless.

biko

Special, please drop the insurance angle. It will only derail thread.

martinr5232

GM228 wrote:

There is no age limit on Garda vehicles, just a mileage limit. Garda policy requires that cars be replaced no later than when they clock up 160,000 km.

As far as im aware the end of life for garda cars is 300,000 km.
Now unless that has changed very recently which i doubt it has as 160,000 km is less than 100,000 miles.

As for 07 mondeos there is plenty of them still around and older i see them every day of the week.

GM228

martinr5232 wrote: »

As far as im aware the end of life for garda cars is 300,000 km.
Now unless that has changed very recently which i doubt it has as 160,000 km is less than 100,000 miles.

As for 07 mondeos there is plenty of them still around and older i see them every day of the week.

The policy has always been 100,000 miles which was adjusted to 1600,000 km in 2005. The policy is to replace at 160,000 which is the estimated economic mileage for the fleet but I suppose this is dependent on funding etc, in reality there are cars that have reached 300,000 km + in the force, it's only a policy at the end of the day, not a legal requirement.

http://m.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/garda-car-driven-round-the-globe-seven-times-26943389.html

A GARDA patrol car with 280,000km on the clock – equivalent to seven times around the globe – is on 24 hour duty in the Dundalk district, the Argus has learned.

The Argus also learned that another patrol car is in full time use in Ardee with over 300,000 kilometres clocked up.[/quite]

CardinalJ

If you ever see a 07 Red Mondeo its the Gardai as far as im concerned. See them all the time.

CardinalJ

CardinalJ wrote: »

If you ever see a 07 Red Mondeo its the Gardai as far as im concerned. See them all the time.

There is a red 2007 Mondeo in Tallaght offices.

MarkR

Still around Limerick also.

martinr5232

GM228 wrote:

The policy has always been 100,000 miles which was adjusted to 1600,000 km in 2005. The policy is to replace at 160,000 which is the estimated economic mileage for the fleet but I suppose this is dependent on funding etc, in reality there are cars that have reached 300,000 km + in the force, it's only a policy at the end of the day, not a legal requirement.

Policy is 300,000 km for saloon cars and commercials are 500,000 subject to inspection i repair them every day of the week.

Buffman

GM228 wrote: »

The policy has always been 100,000 miles which was adjusted to 1600,000 km in 2005.

Pre-recession maybe, when they used to sell off the cars. Now it's 300,000km for cars and 500,000km for jeeps/vans. That's down to the manufacturers safety limits, if they could get away with running them forever, they would.

360 vehicles must be put out of service this year having passed 300,000km, a safety limit

There is also talk of the newer cars being kept until 500,000km.

Mr Redmond said the new cars will be allowed clock up 500,000km: “Remember, these are just family cars, they are not specially built for police. They are not meant to be driven to such an extent.”

(Edit: just beaten to it by martinr5232)

Cortina_MK_IV

There was a Fiat Idea on the M1 a while back. Didn't ahem, cop the reg. On the ramp before J18 s/bound IIRC.

martinr5232

Buffman wrote:

Pre-recession maybe, when they used to sell off the cars. Now it's 300,000km for cars and 500,000km for jeeps/vans. That's down to the manufacturers safety limits, if they could get away with running them forever, they would.

Id love to see them after 500k :-D

Buffman

martinr5232 wrote: »

Id love to see them after 500k :-D

Ye, Trigger's broom comes to mind!:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE

Henry Ford III

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Depends on your point of view. If there are major irish insurers unwilling to cover these cars then i don't see why the guards should suffer them for general use.

A non sequitur.

Insurer choosing not to offer cover doesn't mean the vehicle is inherently dangerous.

Buffman

Tilikum wrote: »

Surely to God the guards aren't driving around in 10 year old cars? I couldn't see the reg full at the time.

Said I'd have a quick look in the papers to find a recent non-file photo for ya, didn't have to look far. One of todays top storys has this as it's photo.

savagethegoat

07D Mondeo = Gard car in my head, once very common

Other things to look out for:

No number plate surround
No dealer sticker
No towbar
Sundry aerials
Non metallic colour
Steel wheels, no hubcaps

Dardania

savagethegoat wrote: »

07D Mondeo = Gard car in my head, once very common

Other things to look out for:

No number plate surround
No dealer sticker
No towbar
Sundry aerials
Non metallic colour
Steel wheels, no hubcaps

& well worn grab handles, due to the four big lads stuffed into it!

I'm sure if less of their annual budget went on salary etc. they'd have newer cars.

PANDDDKP

There's an unmarked Nissan jeep used by Traffic Corps in Mayo and it's either a 1999 or 2000. I see it regularly with cars pulled over.

R.O.R

A batch of the early 07 White Mondeo's were sold off by the Gardai - one of my contacts in a local company was driving one and I see one with a very similar reg number, most morning's on the way in to work.

Quite often park next to a dark blue 07, unmarked Mondeo, at the local fuel station. Had to stifle a giggle while following the driver out last time I saw him - he'd popped in for doughnuts

Another one to look out in '07 Mondeo to spot a Garda vehicle is the missing central segments from the 3rd brake light.

Stoolbend

PANDDDKP wrote: »

There's an unmarked Nissan jeep used by Traffic Corps in Mayo and it's either a 1999 or 2000. I see it regularly with cars pulled over.

That's a Toyota Landcruiser.

boardsuser1

CardinalJ wrote: »

If you ever see a 07 Red Mondeo its the Gardai as far as im concerned. See them all the time.

Only with steelies or hubcaps. Seen a handful of red mondeo's that year with factory standard alloys. Not a garda car.

martinr5232

KC161 wrote:

Only with steelies or hubcaps. Seem a handful with factory standard alloys. Not a garda car.

There are mondeos out there with alloys usually only the v6s though.

Jesus.

I've seen plenty Cop cars older than 07. The vans especially can be ancient.

Most of those Mondy's are probably 1.6's as well :rolleyes:

martinr5232

Jesus. wrote:

Most of those Mondy's are probably 1.6's as well

No such thing as mk3 1.6 they were either 1.8 or 2.0 cops loved them they would drive them before they would drive the new toyotas at the time.

pippip

martinr5232 wrote: »

No such thing as mk3 1.6 they were either 1.8 or 2.0 cops loved them they would drive them before they would drive the new toyotas at the time.

But you could get a Mk4 2007 which had a 1.6

martinr5232

pippip wrote:

But you could get a Mk4 2007 which had a 1.6

Ya could and they wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding :-)

bazz26

The majority of Gardai fleet Mk3 Mondeos were 2.0 litre petrol with odd specs. A few pop up on donedeal every now and then being advertised with one previous careful owner. :pac:

shietpilot

There are plenty of older cars used as unmarked cars. The oldest I've seen is a late 90's Corolla driven by a guy with a track suit. I saw it pass me in town with the siren and lights on back around 2014.

07ish Mondeos are pretty common.

Zubeneschamali

Buffman wrote: »

Pre-recession maybe, when they used to sell off the cars. Now it's 300,000km for cars and 500,000km for jeeps/vans. That's down to the manufacturers safety limits, if they could get away with running them forever, they would.

My Ford car has 350,000 km up - are you saying it is unsafe per the manufacturer?

selectamatic

Cortina_MK_IV wrote: »

There was a Fiat Idea on the M1 a while back. Didn't ahem, cop the reg. On the ramp before J18 s/bound IIRC.

I got stopped by a gold mk2 punto a few years ago in Drumcondra, although I don't think traffic was they're primary concern as the two guards were wearing stab vests and ended up just giving me a talking to and sending me on my way.

bazz26

My local community Gardai were driving a 05/06 Corolla hatchback up to recently, replaced now with a Hyundai i30 estate.

shakin

The bridewell had a 01 camry not that long ago, not sure if its still in service.

ironclaw

There are now a few Peugeot saloons in the fleet. There was an unmarked one on the M50 and you would never know it was a Garda car.

I used have a Toyota with some additional aerials on it, often got the thumbs up from patrol cars. Good times.

Buffman

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

My Ford car has 350,000 km up - are you saying it is unsafe per the manufacturer?

As far as I understand it, the manufacturer will not guarantee the cars or parts beyond 300,000km, and it's for liability reasons that the Garda withdraw them, even if it's in good condition.

It became a major problem a few years ago when they weren't being replaced.

Garda Parker said that, on average, at least one vehicle was removed from the garda fleet each day because they reached the 300,000km limit after which manufacturers would not guarantee them.

Del2005

bazz26 wrote: »

The majority of Gardai fleet Mk3 Mondeos were 2.0 litre petrol with odd specs. A few pop up on donedeal every now and then being advertised with one previous careful owner. :pac:

One careful owner true, but hundreds of non careful operators

kirving

Buffman wrote: »

As far as I understand it, the manufacturer will not guarantee the cars or parts beyond 300,000km, and it's for liability reasons that the Garda withdraw them, even if it's in good condition.

It became a major problem a few years ago when they weren't being replaced.

Perhaps its different for the Gardai using cars, but I don't see where the 300,000km limit comes from?

If say an airbag didn't go off when it should have on a 7 year old car with 350,000km(high but not inconceivable mileage), then the manufacturer would be getting sued.

martinr5232

Buffman wrote:

As far as I understand it, the manufacturer will not guarantee the cars or parts beyond 300,000km, and it's for liability reasons that the Garda withdraw them, even if it's in good condition.

Thats right i remember the best of cars going for scrap.

martinr5232

Kevin Irving wrote:

Perhaps its different for the Gardai using cars, but I don't see where the 300,000km limit comes from?

Manufacturers will only guarentee the chassis to 300k so its not feesable for the guards to keep them after that.

Zubeneschamali

Buffman wrote: »

As far as I understand it, the manufacturer will not guarantee the cars or parts beyond 300,000km

Ford wouldn't guarantee mine past 100,000.