Best farming van

Reggie.

Ok so my current van died so I didn't have to (may she rest in peace)

Currently looking at replacements. Needs to be suitable for daily journeys to Dublin plus the farm work also.

Currently looking at the citroen/Peugeot offerings in the shape of the berlingo and partner. Any thoughts?

blue5000

Reggie. wrote: »

Ok so my current van died so I didn't have to (may she rest in peace)

Currently looking at replacements. Needs to be suitable for daily journeys to Dublin plus the farm work also.

Currently looking at the citroen/Peugeot offerings in the shape of the berlingo and partner. Any thoughts?

I don't think you'll do better than the partner, they had a good deal last year on a scrappage, it might still be there. Good fuel economy and you can seat 3 across the front.

Mf310

VW caddy 4x4 ... only van to come 4 wheel drive I think?

tomwaterford

Mf310 wrote: »

VW caddy 4x4 ... only van to come 4 wheel drive I think?

Transit connect comes in 4wd aswell

Who2

Take the landini.

Reggie.

Who2 wrote: »

Take the landini.

To Dublin?

bullnuts

blue5000 wrote: »

I don't think you'll do better than the partner, they had a good deal last year on a scrappage, it might still be there. Good fuel economy and you can seat 3 across the front.

Just on the thee seats is it ok for two kids to travel in these once airbags disabled or against the law?

blue5000

I honestly don't know. They'd have to be over the min height and age I suppose.

Bullocks

I wouldn't prefer a particular breed but I would be looking at a 2ltr van instead of 1.6 if you're going to be at much heavy work loads with it .
Did anyone look statue new smallish Toyota van that came out last year ? They look alright

jimini0

blue5000 wrote: »

I honestly don't know. They'd have to be over the min height and age I suppose.

Its the seat that matters. Toddler seat or, booster seat must be used. You only need to disable air bag if the child seat is rear facing. I have a Opel combo only 2 seats in front I do have my 2 year old or 4 year old in it all the time. As long as they have the right age seat its all legal

mountain

Skoda yeti is available as a van, also as 4x4, very comfortable, 50mpg. Worth looking at

_Brian

I liked the drive of the berlingo, three seats is a great option to have.

Kids are allowed in front of vehicles in correct seats, age and weight don't matter any more. Again insurance would be a grey area with commercial insurance.

Never wrestle with pigs

Do you need a pulling and dragging van or a cheap to run comfortable van?

Hard to look past the caddy for a hard working van that's good on juce and comfortable too.

Opel combo not a bad van in the 1.3jtd fiat engine (sumthing fiat actually build good) easy to run room in the back but lacking power if you need to pull anything.

The Toyota auris van 1.4d will run on fresh air and is comfortable. Not huge power. I did use one to bring a big car back across the country with a trailer when I was stuck and she pulled away but I wouldn't do it with her all the time.

The ford focus van is good to in the older 1.8d bullet proof ford engine. Not as comfortable (I don't think any fords are) but a good van.

Golf van good all rounder but probably cost the most to maintain and stay away from the 2.0d from 06 to late 08. Sum one was smoking crack on the engine line and really put a bad dint in the Vw brand for a few years there.

I worked with Citroen and Peugeot for a few years and I wouldn't give one to my mother in law. I fcuking hate them.

It really depends on what you want the van to do. I'd go with the Toyota if you don't need all the room in the back or dragging a trailer around much.

Reggie.

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Do you need a pulling and dragging van or a cheap to run comfortable van?

Hard to look past the caddy for a hard working van that's good on juce and comfortable too.

Opel combo not a bad van in the 1.3jtd fiat engine (sumthing fiat actually build good) easy to run room in the back but lacking power if you need to pull anything.

The Toyota auris van 1.4d will run on fresh air and is comfortable. Not huge power. I did use one to bring a big car back across the country with a trailer when I was stuck and she pulled away but I wouldn't do it with her all the time.

The ford focus van is good to in the older 1.8d bullet proof ford engine. Not as comfortable (I don't think any fords are) but a good van.

Golf van good all rounder but probably cost the most to maintain and stay away from the 2.0d from 06 to late 08. Sum one was smoking crack on the engine line and really put a bad dint in the Vw brand for a few years there.

I worked with Citroen and Peugeot for a few years and I wouldn't give one to my mother in law. I fcuking hate them.

It really depends on what you want the van to do. I'd go with the Toyota if you don't need all the room in the back or dragging a trailer around much.

Just mainly driving about and the odd but if meal in the trailer. Always thought the caddys were a bit overpriced? Am I wrong?

selectamatic

Reggie. wrote: »

Just mainly driving about and the odd but if meal in the trailer. Always thought the caddys were a bit overpriced? Am I wrong?

No you're not wrong they've been over priced for a long time now.

Not sure what your particular scenario would be with regards main roads dual carriageways etc but the days of pulling and drawing big loads with small vans are numbered rsa are clamping down in a big way.

Also 4x4 in a small van is unnecessary it's just another thing to go wrong and they're dear to buy in the first place.

For tipping about its hard go wrong with the 1.4d4d in the Auris but they're a car van really if you're used to a proper small van it's hard go back to a car van. 1.6hdi partner or Berlingo are good value for money and they're a well proven engine by now which has had nearly all its minor problems fixed as it's been updated over the years.

Toyota and vw hold their value well in the 2nd hand market so something to consider if depreciation will be a concern.

Out of interest will this be a new van or a new to you van?

Reggie.

selectamatic wrote: »

No you're not wrong they've been over priced for a long time now.

Not sure what your particular scenario would be with regards main roads dual carriageways etc but the days of pulling and drawing big loads with small vans are numbered rsa are clamping down in a big way.

Also 4x4 in a small van is unnecessary it's just another thing to go wrong and they're dear to buy in the first place.

For tipping about its hard go wrong with the 1.4d4d in the Auris but they're a car van really if you're used to a proper small van it's hard go back to a car van. 1.6hdi partner or Berlingo are good value for money and they're a well proven engine by now which has had nearly all its minor problems fixed as it's been updated over the years.

Toyota and vw hold their value well in the 2nd hand market so something to consider if depreciation will be a concern.

Out of interest will this be a new van or a new to you van?

Second hand van. A good 131 model can be for for around the 7 or 8k Mark where a caddy could be 2ķ dearer. Had a Nissan kubistar before and it suited me fine

pedigree 6

Sorry reggie to hijack this thread.

But I was at a towing trailer information day.
Anyway a guard present told people to look up this site if unsure of the weight that their vehicle can tow.

http://www.malcolms.ie/towbars/information/maximum-towing-weights

You have to know the weight of the trailer as well and have brakes on double axle trailers.
Basically you can bring more weight in a double axle than a triple as the triple axle trailer is 300kgs heavier.

Again sorry to hijack. Hope you get the van that your looking for reggie.

Reggie.

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Sorry reggie to hijack this thread.

But I was at a towing trailer information day.
Anyway a guard present told people to look up this site if unsure of the weight that their vehicle can tow.

http://www.malcolms.ie/towbars/information/maximum-towing-weights

You have to know the weight of the trailer as well and have brakes on double axle trailers.
Basically you can bring more weight in a double axle than a triple as the triple axle trailer is 300kgs heavier.

Again sorry to hijack. Hope you get the van that your looking for reggie.

No hassle. All info welcome

selectamatic

Reggie. wrote: »

Second hand van. A good 131 model can be for for around the 7 or 8k Mark where a caddy could be 2ķ dearer. Had a Nissan kubistar before and it suited me fine

Hard go wrong with a partner so as long as ya get one that's been well serviced and not abused. Back axles have always been a week point but they're perfectly fine for general work (look for uneven tyre wear on the back) towing builders trailers of sand and loading the back with cement is what killed the majority of partners and berlingos during the boom.

The caddy is only worth the extra cash if ya go for the 2.0tdi 140bhp variant.

Never wrestle with pigs

Reggie. wrote: »

Just mainly driving about and the odd but if meal in the trailer. Always thought the caddys were a bit overpriced? Am I wrong?

The auris would be perfect for you and good on juce and nice to drive for the spin to Dublin.

charolais0153

We have a Peugeot partner at home if you would flash some of the cash your showing;):)

Reggie.

charolais0153 wrote: »

We have a Peugeot partner at home if you would flash some of the cash your showing;):)

Ah.......cheeky

Muckit

selectamatic wrote: »

For tipping about its hard go wrong with the 1.4d4d in the Auris but they're a car van really if you're used to a proper small van it's hard go back to a car van.
Toyota and vw hold their value well in the 2nd hand market so something to consider if depreciation will be a concern.

The auris are a belter of a car especially the newer 2011> ones with 6 speed box and 1.4d engine. Run it on fumes.

The other advantage of a car type van is you have the comfort of a car.

fanmanad

Was in your position just over a year ago. Went looking for a 12 or 13 van but couldn't find a good tidy van for reasonable price. Ended up buying a new caddy on 0% finance for 3 years. Best move I ever made!!

selectamatic

Muckit wrote: »

The auris are a belter of a car especially the newer 2011> ones with 6 speed box and 1.4d engine. Run it on fumes.

The other advantage of a car type van is you have the comfort of a car.

+1 on that, the 1.4d4d is imo one of the best diesel engines of the last 15 years they're very very reliable and decent performance wise too.

While true enough on the comfort advantage of a carvan, small vans have come on a lot in recent years.
I'm too used to having a big rear load space therefore I'd find making the switch to a carvan a bit difficult but thats only my own opinion on the matter.

Reggie.

selectamatic wrote: »

+1 on that, the 1.4d4d is imo one of the best diesel engines of the last 15 years they're very very reliable and decent performance wise too.

While true enough on the comfort advantage of a carvan, small vans have come on a lot in recent years.
I'm too used to having a big rear load space therefore I'd find making the switch to a carvan a bit difficult but thats only my own opinion on the matter.

Id have to agree with you on the large rear space

casscass4444

Don't touch the opel combo.some people raving about mpg on the 1.3 engine.its a fiat engine that's bet into the combo to fit.to do any work on the engine you will be guaranteed to take chunks out of your hands unless you have wee midget hands.heater plugs are impossible to change on them as they normally break removing them and your looking at pulling the head or tap and die to fix.egr valves are a nightmare and air flow meters are China's finest and not cheap.you will also have to replace every single suspension part on a weekly basis as they appear to be made of twigs and soft as butter.also no matter how many times you track it they go up the road like a 3 legged crab with a bad dose of itch.you will also end up funding your local tyre mans kids college funds.you will end up spending the winter threatening it to start on cold mornings and the rest of the time trying to find out where the leaks are that fill it with water.as for a trailer they wouldn't pull the socks off a dead man. I could think of others but maybe my yeok is just haunted.gotta hand it to her though she has character

Muckit

Sounds like you've a bit of a love hate relationship going on there!

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

Sounds like you've a bit of a love hate relationship going on there!

Thought the same. Must be currently working on one

MickeyShtyles

Whats the story regarding insurance for vans/carvans?
Currently 23, driving two years in November. No hope or massive premium?

Reggie.

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Whats the story regarding insurance for vans/carvans?
Currently 23, driving two years in November. No hope or massive premium?

You need either a vat no or a herd number

_Brian

Reggie. wrote: »

You need either a vat no or a herd number

Or some counties a letter from employer stating the need is enough. No real consistency from council to council.
I have a friend who got a van taxed last year in Cavan with a letter from his employer.

fastrac

Insurance will be the big problem from now on.They are going to town on the fine print . I cant see how taking children to a match will be covered by a commercial policy. They are cracking down on named drivers being the main user of vehicles too. If you only have a commercial policy you have no NCB when you go back to insure a car. The good is going out of the small van which is a pity.

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Or some counties a letter from employer stating the need is enough. No real consistency from council to council.
I have a friend who got a van taxed last year in Cavan with a letter from his employer.

I'm on about insurance not the tax Brian. Insurance require one or the other for a quote

Reggie.

fastrac wrote: »

Insurance will be the big problem from now on.They are going to town on the fine print . I cant see how taking children to a match will be covered by a commercial policy. They are cracking down on named drivers being the main user of vehicles too. If you only have a commercial policy you have no NCB when you go back to insure a car. The good is going out of the small van which is a pity.

Van still allowed to be used for pleasure purpose but it's upto you to check. I've a good broker which helps

farmertipp

fanmanad wrote: »

Was in your position just over a year ago. Went looking for a 12 or 13 van but couldn't find a good tidy van for reasonable price. Ended up buying a new caddy on 0% finance for 3 years. Best move I ever made!!

Just wondering is it 4wd?

Cattlepen

I used always be a jeep man and had a few serious cars in my time. Last year I bought a bog standard 1.6 caddy and have never been happier with a vehicle in my life. The jeep is only ever used for pulling the Ifor Williams and nothing else. When I think of all the money wasted on diesel with the jeep over the years I cringe. I think the 4wd caddy a are overkill and they are very expensive. I also don't know if the 2. 0 would be worth the extra money. The 1.6 pulls away with the back full of bags of meal no problem. I wouldn't go back to driving any thing else. Mpg €63 1000kms

Who2

Cattlepen wrote: »

I used always be a jeep man and had a few serious cars in my time. Last year I bought a bog standard 1.6 caddy and have never been happier with a vehicle in my life. The jeep is only ever used for pulling the Ifor Williams and nothing else. When I think of all the money wasted on diesel with the jeep over the years I cringe. I think the 4wd caddy a are overkill and they are very expensive. I also don't know if the 2. 0 would be worth the extra money. The 1.6 pulls away with the back full of bags of meal no problem. I wouldn't go back to driving any thing else. Mpg €63 1000kms

Don't be sickening me. I bought a hilux a couple of weeks ago and the price of diesel for a couple of the jobs has nearly doubled. I think il be moving it on fairly fast.

MF290

Cattlepen wrote: »

Mpg €63 1000kms

That's fair going. What kind of driving were you doing to get that? I heard the 1.6 caddy were a bit underpowered and thirsty as a result? 1.6 berlingo did about 46.5mpg on the last fill, there was a bit of motorway driving there though and you can seeing the needle moving on front of you then.

Reggie.

MF290 wrote: »

That's fair going. What kind of driving were you doing to get that? I heard the 1.6 caddy were a bit underpowered and thirsty as a result? 1.6 berlingo did about 46.5mpg on the last fill, there was a bit of motorway driving there though and you can seeing the needle moving on front of you then.

How much to fill tank and what miles per tank full?

MF290

Reggie. wrote: »

How much to fill tank and what miles per tank full?

Reserve light had just come on and it took €58.63/49 or 50l, 827 km

king_m

I have a 03 hilux the last few years. I get 400 to 450 miles a fill. It has a 60 litre tank.

Cattlepen

MF290 wrote: »

That's fair going. What kind of driving were you doing to get that? I heard the 1.6 caddy were a bit underpowered and thirsty as a result? 1.6 berlingo did about 46.5mpg on the last fill, there was a bit of motorway driving there though and you can seeing the needle moving on front of you then.

That's mixed driving but if you cane it on the motorway you won't get that. I don't have a tow bar on it but it's well able to scoot along with the cargo area full of meal and an assortment of junk, tools and other crap I seem to be able to accumulate in no time

pedigree 6

Who2 wrote: »

Don't be sickening me. I bought a hilux a couple of weeks ago and the price of diesel for a couple of the jobs has nearly doubled. I think il be moving it on fairly fast.

Put this in first and see what it's like.
There's other brands of the same stuff as well.
I need to do the tractor myself with it as well.
I'll put it in with the diesel in the tractor when I'll fill up next.
Put it in the pick up and drive in 3rd gear down the motorway.:D

http://www.micksgarage.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=4798729

tractorporn

Reggie. wrote:

How much to fill tank and what miles per tank full?

I've a 141 berlingo van for work and it roughly takes 60 yo yo to fill her and she does 900 kms to the tank. I do very little motorway driving mostly back roads round the 80k mark.

I would have one in the morning for the but I wouldn't be expecting it to tow anything.

CloughCasey1

Ive a kangoo 11 from new 240k not a days trouble from it. Drives nicer than partner/berlingo but not as nice as a car/van. Miser on diesel and plenty of rear space.

Who2

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Put this in first and see what it's like.
There's other brands of the same stuff as well.
I need to do the tractor myself with it as well.
I'll put it in with the diesel in the tractor when I'll fill up next.
Put it in the pick up and drive in 3rd gear down the motorway.:D

http://www.micksgarage.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=4798729

ive a lad organised to terraclean it. i do drive the stones out of yolks though and i wouldnt be the best man to give reviews on mpg for that reason alone. ive spent the last hour reviewing vans and 40-44 seems to be the best for a bigger van in the new models, now to decide if i want the headache of looking after a new one or just buy another auld one to wreck.

massey woman

The thing that wrecks my head most about vans and particularly newer ones is the lack of rear view mirror and back windows
Neighbour has a Citroen and I just hate it hes 76 and finds it impossible to reverse particularly with trailer
Did the deal for a new model without having a spin in it first
I tell him its an accountants van all costs stripped out
Does anyone else feel similar

davidk1394

Reggie. wrote: »

Just mainly driving about and the odd but if meal in the trailer. Always thought the caddys were a bit overpriced? Am I wrong?

There pretty pricey but you'd buy a good 08 09 van for 5k or so. But they are very comfortable and nice to drive. Use our one for heading up and down to Dublin, doing fencing, rounding up sheep and the occasional bitta trailer work. Looked at the new transit connect and berlingo van and I'd still prefer the caddy we have now with regards comfort.

davidk1394

MF290 wrote: »

Reserve light had just come on and it took €58.63/49 or 50l, 827 km

That's not too bad. Our trooper costs €90 to fill and it'll do 450miles

Reggie.

davidk1394 wrote: »

There pretty pricey but you'd buy a good 08 09 van for 5k or so. But they are very comfortable and nice to drive. Use our one for heading up and down to Dublin, doing fencing, rounding up sheep and the occasional bitta trailer work. Looked at the new transit connect and berlingo van and I'd still prefer the caddy we have now with regards comfort.

Only thing that puts me off the caddy is the 2 seats. The 3 seats in the berlingo is handy