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LDR Breakup - I want him back

  • 30-09-2016 11:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I desperately need advice. My bf broke up with me 5 weeks ago. He's in Australia, i'm in Ireland. He was here for 3 months and is home just under 3 months now. We were together for about 14 months. I love him so much and I know he loved me too. We were in the process of applying for a Partnership Visa. Our relationship was not without it's challenges. About 3 weeks ago, he blocked me on FB, Messenger, his family bar one member has blocked me, he's blocked my family and friends. He sent a letter to immigration to say the relationship wasn't continuing. We had been arguing for a good few weeks and he just turned cold. I'm absolutely heartbroken and just feel completely devastated. We'd literally spoke weeks earlier about how we were going to build a life together, get a house, a dog, travel the world. How he couldn't wait to wake up beside me every day. Then things just broke down again. I have spoke to immigration and the visa hasn't actually been cancelled, just a notification of breakdown, which means we could continue with the application if there was a reconciliation. I messaged him and phoned him and the only response I got was why are you calling? I told him it was about the visa and that I needed certain docs from him as I had to provide a response to them regarding his letter. That I could then send the letter to withdraw in and there was no point dragging this out any longer than necessary. This is what he said he wanted !!!!!!! I haven't had any response from him It's been about 9 days since i've contacted him. Do you think there is any chance I could ever get this guy back or am I fooling myself? How can you love someone so much, then just change like that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    This is dead in the water given he went to such drastic lengths to have nothing more to do with you or your extended circle. I doubt you need any documentation to cancel the application so I'd just write the letter confirming that your relationship has broken down irretrievably and you won't be pursuing the application. Seems like all the arguing might have highlighted the incompatibilities between you unfortunately.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Blindsided wrote:
    Do you think there is any chance I could ever get this guy back?


    Nope.
    Stop contacting him and move on with your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    He may be in a new relationship, or simply glad to be rid of you. Either way it's better that it ends now before your married , kids, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Merkin wrote: »
    This is dead in the water given he went to such drastic lengths to have nothing more to do with you or your extended circle. I doubt you need any documentation to cancel the application so I'd just write the letter confirming that your relationship has broken down irretrievably and you won't be pursuing the application. Seems like all the arguing might have highlighted the incompatibilities between you unfortunately.


    I don't want to cancel the application. I want him to do it. It was his decision so I think he should take responsibility. It's really cruel to expect me to do it. I just don't understand how he changed so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    ted1 wrote: »
    He may be in a new relationship, or simply glad to be rid of you. Either way it's better that it ends now before your married , kids, etc

    I asked him if he had met someone and he told me he hadn't. He says he's hurting more than I realise. I just feel like my whole world has been pulled from under me. I had planned my life around going back to Oz with him. I just feel completely lost and completely broken.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I don't want to cancel the application. I want him to do it. It was his decision so I think he should take responsibility. It's really cruel to expect me to do it. I just don't understand how he changed so much.

    But you said in your OP that you need documentation from him in order for YOU to set the wheels in motion for cancelling.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Hi op,

    You have to knock this Partnership Visa idea on the head quick smart. You don't have a partner any more, so how can you go to Australia on a Partnership Visa? It would be fraud. Not to mention terribly unhealthy for your peace of mind, continuing to have a tie to him, when for him you're history.

    He has done the right thing in severing all ties if he stopped feeling the same for you. Now you have to be strong, do the same, and move on from this. Siht happens, breakups suck, but it's all a part of life. You'll get over it and be happy again with someone else , especially if you take the right lessons from this situation. Move on. There is nothing else to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    seenitall wrote: »
    Hi op,

    You have to knock this Partnership Visa idea on the head quick smart. You don't have a partner any more, so how can you go to Australia on a Partnership Visa? It would be fraud. Not to mention terribly unhealthy for your peace of mind, continuing to have a tie to him, when for him you're history.

    He has done the right thing in severing all ties if he stopped feeling the same for you. Now you have to be strong, do the same, and move on from this. Siht happens, breakups suck, but it's all a part of life. You'll get over it and be happy again with someone else , especially if you take the right lessons from this situation. Move on. There is nothing else to do.


    I don't want to go on the visa if i'm not with him. I wanted to get back together. He know he hasn't cancelled the visa so it's just giving me hope. I was literally his whole world a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    [QUOTE=Merkin;1
    01207384]But you said in your OP that you need documentation from him in order for YOU to set the wheels in motion for cancelling.....[/QUOTE]

    I wanted to see what he said in his letter before I provided his response. I guess I was letting him know the visa still hadn't been cancelled. Immigration said it may not be withdrawn until a letter is sent to cancel the application. I really think it's cruel that he won't do it if he has no intention of ever getting back together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I asked him if he had met someone and he told me he hadn't. He says he's hurting more than I realise. I just feel like my whole world has been pulled from under me. I had planned my life around going back to Oz with him. I just feel completely lost and completely broken.

    Can i ask how old you are? Was this your first relationship?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Tilly wrote: »
    Can i ask how old you are? Was this your first relationship?

    I'm 30, no i've been in long term relationships before but nothing has ever hit me this hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Blindsided wrote: »

    About 3 weeks ago, he blocked me on FB, Messenger... he's blocked my family and friends....

    Why would you want to get back with someone who behaves like that out of the blue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I don't want to go on the visa if i'm not with him. I wanted to get back together. He know he hasn't cancelled the visa so it's just giving me hope. I was literally his whole world a few weeks ago.

    Did you not post previously that he treated you badly and you didn't trust him because of his contact with his ex (of 5/6 years) and you were very frustrated and threatened by this and you had told her to back off. The timing of break up, visa etc. social media cancelling, are the same.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057628076

    If so count your blessings you are well out of it, it was messy and dysfunctional by your previous descriptions. People told you in that not to even consider moving countries to be with him. You got good advise in the previous thread, maybe have a reread so you are not looking with rose-tinted glasses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭Sapphire


    You were in a long distance relationship for 14 months up until 5 weeks ago but he came home for the last 3 months of that?

    Usually with relationships, between a year and 18 months is usually where people can see past the rosy glow of a brand new romance and realistically assess whether or not the relationship is a keeper or not. By that stage you've got to see them in all moods, found out their bad habits and all that. And if you are fundamentally different in your views or future plans, those start to become apparent during this time. So if you've already had your ups and downs then its likely he's making the right call. Maybe with the distance it was easy to assume that the reason you were not getting along all the time was down to the difficulties of a long- distance relationship and when he came home for 3 months realised that the difficulties and concerns were still present when you were together in person.

    You need to start thinking that its over for good. You chasing him for the visa thing to me sounds like you are trying to find a reason to contact him in the hope that he will regret breaking up with you and beg you back, but it sounds very much like he's got his mind made up. Chasing him will make you look like a desperate ex.

    I know you had plans for the future. That happens in all relationships to some extent even if they are not verbalised. But you will get past this and you will get over him. You will have a great future with someone just not with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Did you not post previously that he treated you badly and you didn't trust him because of his contact with his ex (of 5/6 years) and you were very frustrated and threatened by this and you had told her to back off. The timing of break up, visa etc. social media cancelling, are the same.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057628076

    If so count your blessings you are well out of it, it was messy and dysfunctional by your previous descriptions. People told you in that not to even consider moving countries to be with him. You got good advise in the previous thread, maybe have a reread so you are not looking with rose-tinted glasses?

    Yeap I did. Maybe I am looking with rose tinted glasses. I guess I just hoped we could move past all this. Reading that thread might be a good idea. I'm trying my hardest to get on with things but it's so hard.

    He was with his ex 5/6 years ago. Now he's dumped me in pretty much the same manner as she did which was apparently a terrible way to treat him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Sapphire wrote: »
    You were in a long distance relationship for 14 months up until 5 weeks ago but he came home for the last 3 months of that?

    No we've been long distance for the past 3 months as he had to return due to work/visa restrictions. We were together before that. He came to Ireland for 3 months and I was in Australia previously where I met him. We had issues before but our arguments never went on for this long when we were together.

    Usually with relationships, between a year and 18 months is usually where people can see past the rosy glow of a brand new romance and realistically assess whether or not the relationship is a keeper or not. By that stage you've got to see them in all moods, found out their bad habits and all that. And if you are fundamentally different in your views or future plans, those start to become apparent during this time. So if you've already had your ups and downs then its likely he's making the right call. Maybe with the distance it was easy to assume that the reason you were not getting along all the time was down to the difficulties of a long- distance relationship and when he came home for 3 months realised that the difficulties and concerns were still present when you were together in person.

    You need to start thinking that its over for good. You chasing him for the visa thing to me sounds like you are trying to find a reason to contact him in the hope that he will regret breaking up with you and beg you back, but it sounds very much like he's got his mind made up. Chasing him will make you look like a desperate ex.

    I know you had plans for the future. That happens in all relationships to some extent even if they are not verbalised. But you will get past this and you will get over him. You will have a great future with someone just not with him.


    I want to contact him about the visa at some point to ask him about the cancellation. It's cruel to ask me to pursue this as it's his decision and he know's how hurt I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I want to contact him about the visa at some point to ask him about the cancellation. It's cruel to ask me to pursue this as it's his decision and he know's how hurt I am.

    You have absolutely nothing to gain by doing so. You need to bid a hasty retreat and not contact him again, doing so is merely protracting a painful process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Merkin wrote: »
    You have absolutely nothing to gain by doing so. You need to bid a hasty retreat and not contact him again, doing so is merely protracting a painful process.

    The visa process is ongoing. It needs to be dealt with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    Blindsided wrote: »
    The visa process is ongoing. It needs to be dealt with.

    What needs to be done with it? You're not going to OZ now, so you just walk away from the application?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    Just let it go. Do you really want to be with someone like that ! Count your blessings you don't have any ties to him draw a line and move on surly you think you deserve better than this. I'd have run a mile from him sounds like lots if issues in this so called relationship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Tilly wrote: »
    What needs to be done with it? You're not going to OZ now, so you just walk away from the application?

    You're using the visa issue as an exuse to keep the lines of communication open with him, he knows that and everyone here knows that. Leave the visa issue. Maybe he'll sort it, maybe he won't, but if you're not going back then what does it matter? You need to stop contacting him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Blindsided wrote: »
    The visa process is ongoing. It needs to be dealt with.

    And it should be very straightforward to contact the appropriate department and say you're withdrawing your application. I agree, you're clearly using it as an excuse to maintain contact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Blindsided wrote: »
    The visa process is ongoing. It needs to be dealt with.

    No it doesnt. You can just ignore it.

    Im sure they have applications that they just mark as "no one continued to contact us" after a period of time.

    I think you need to stop contacting him and stop thinking of reasons to maintain contact. Youre only hurting yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    Blindsided wrote: »
    Yeap I did. Maybe I am looking with rose tinted glasses. I guess I just hoped we could move past all this. Reading that thread might be a good idea. I'm trying my hardest to get on with things but it's so hard.

    He was with his ex 5/6 years ago. Now he's dumped me in pretty much the same manner as she did which was apparently a terrible way to treat him.

    Op honestly, your post here leaves out the entire context of why you guys broke up. It was not out of the blue or without reason. You really should read through your thread again and take in what everybody said.

    You're now clinging on to the visa as a way to almost force him to give you a final answer. But he really has already, even if he was hesitant and was tempted to give it another go it really will only end in disaster. You're prolonging the heartache here. Yep it's really cruel that he's making you cancel the application and officially put an end to those dreams but in reality the end of them has already happened, they're over. Regardless of whether you call the visa application place or not. And trying to get "an answer" from him is pointless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Is part of your problem that the option of moving to Australia is gone for now?

    I too am puzzled as to why you feel this all happened out of the blue. Just about everyone else can understand exactly why things happened as they did. That you can't appear to know this is something you should reflect on. Aside from that, I hope he continues to block and ignore you on every platform possible. For your own good - at the moment you need saving from yourself. I've read this thread and the other one. The conclusions I've drawn from them are that this is not a healthy relationship and that it is making you behave like a crazy lady. And that's putting it mildly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008



    I've read this thread and the other one. The conclusions I've drawn from them are that this is not a healthy relationship and that it is making you behave like a crazy lady. And that's putting it mildly.

    OP this is true, would you think about going to your GP for a referral to someone who can help with your mental health? Use the money you saved on the visa to invest in getting emotionally healthy. You did mention it might be a good idea in the other thread and it will help you before you get into another relationship with a load of baggage from the last one.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,910 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Ah, OP, come on.

    Can I ask you what it is you love about this fella? He has treated you very very badly. He has let you know in no uncertain terms where you stand with him. He is not nice to you. He may occasionally say nice things to you but these things aren't backed up in any way by actions.

    Why do you think he's the best you can do for yourself? Why do you think that's the most you deserve or can hope for?

    You are desperately desperately desperately clinging to someone who finds you an irritation at best. Who knows why he says these things to you? It's easy to be nice to someone when they're standing in front of you, I suppose. It's also easy to forget about them and move on without them when they're not standing in front of you. He said things he didn't mean because it was easy at the time. He wouldn't be the first.

    He wants nothing to do with you. He has told you. Keep some of your dignity and stop running after him like a little puppy hoping to find someone to play with. He's done with you.

    Stop contacting him about the visa. You don't need any documentation from him. What exactly are you looking for? He contacted them and told them not to give you a visa because you are not together anymore. Contacting him looking for more is just attention seeking on your part and hoping he'll either change his mind or at least apologise for everything and wish you well.

    He's as far away from you as he physically can be. He doesn't care what you want anymore. And he is certainly not thinking how can he make this easy for you. He's thinking "how can I make her just leave me alone".

    Either contact the visa dept yourself and tell them you are withdrawing the application, or else just ignore it and they will cancel it themselves. You have to jump through various hoops to get a visa, they're not going to come chasing you, knocking your door down to force it into your hand.

    This wasn't a good relationship, OP. It wasn't even a proper relationship really. Most of it was long distance, and according to your other thread most of the time he was lying to you. Raise your standards and expect better the next time round. (Next relationship, not next time with this fella!!)

    Edit: to cut a long story short.... you want him back. He doesn't want you back. He knows you want him back so is doing everything in his power to avoid ever having to deal with you again.

    You can't make someone want to be with you, no matter how much you want it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    So you were 14 months in a "relationship" but of that 14 months he was in Australia for the first 8, home 3 and gone the last 3. Is that right?

    I can only speak for myself here, but if the above is the case that's not a relationship - that's living separate lives on opposite sides of the planet.

    Look, I know you are hurting. Belive me I was in a similarly sad state after my ex broke up with me. I couldn't see past it, thought I was fecked, felt I could never love anyone again like I loved her.
    There was nothing anyone could say or do to make me feel better. The only thing that helps is the passage of time, even though you don't feel that way now.

    You just have to wait it out. Have fun with friends and family. Go on a holiday with a mate. Do things and go places. One day you will be chilling and all of a sudden it will hit you - you'll notice you haven't thought about him in ages!!

    You will be fine.

    And just forget about the visa. If you're not going there there's no need to do anything. Just forget about it and don't look back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Sapphire wrote: »
    You were in a long distance relationship for 14 months up until 5 weeks ago but he came home for the last 3 months of that?

    Usually with relationships, between a year and 18 months is usually where people can see past the rosy glow of a brand new romance and realistically assess whether or not the relationship is a keeper or not. By that stage you've got to see them in all moods, found out their bad habits and all that. And if you are fundamentally different in your views or future plans, those start to become apparent during this time. So if you've already had your ups and downs then its likely he's making the right call. Maybe with the distance it was easy to assume that the reason you were not getting along all the time was down to the difficulties of a long- distance relationship and when he came home for 3 months realised that the difficulties and concerns were still present when you were together in person.

    We were only long distance for the short period when he returned home to Oz.

    You need to start thinking that its over for good. You chasing him for the visa thing to me sounds like you are trying to find a reason to contact him in the hope that he will regret breaking up with you and beg you back, but it sounds very much like he's got his mind made up. Chasing him will make you look like a desperate ex.

    The visa has been cancelled and refused.

    I know you had plans for the future. That happens in all relationships to some extent even if they are not verbalised. But you will get past this and you will get over him. You will have a great future with someone just not with him.

    I'm just devastated. Two months and i'm still heartbroken. I've been physically ill over this. We had a lot of problems but I wanted to work past them. How can someone go from wanting to spend a life together, get a house, a dog, all these future plans to nothing in the space of a month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP this is true, would you think about going to your GP for a referral to someone who can help with your mental health? Use the money you saved on the visa to invest in getting emotionally healthy. You did mention it might be a good idea in the other thread and it will help you before you get into another relationship with a load of baggage from the last one.

    I've been seeing a counsellor and I had to visit my GP as I ended up physically ill from this. I didn't save any money on the visa. I gave him $2000 a couple of weeks before he broke up with me. I actually started seeing the counsellor before we broke up and told him this as I was trying to find a solution to the arguments. I'm just devastated. It's so hard still loving him. I feel like no one understands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Musketeer4 wrote: »
    So you were 14 months in a "relationship" but of that 14 months he was in Australia for the first 8, home 3 and gone the last 3. Is that right?

    No I was in Australia with him for most of it. Then I came home, he followed. He was here for 3 months. He's gone back 4 months now, broke up with me 2 months ago. We've never argued like the way we had been when he went home. He even said himself if we were together things would have got sorted out a lot easier.

    I can only speak for myself here, but if the above is the case that's not a relationship - that's living separate lives on opposite sides of the planet.

    Look, I know you are hurting. Belive me I was in a similarly sad state after my ex broke up with me. I couldn't see past it, thought I was fecked, felt I could never love anyone again like I loved her.
    There was nothing anyone could say or do to make me feel better. The only thing that helps is the passage of time, even though you don't feel that way now.

    You just have to wait it out. Have fun with friends and family. Go on a holiday with a mate. Do things and go places. One day you will be chilling and all of a sudden it will hit you - you'll notice you haven't thought about him in ages!!

    You will be fine.

    And just forget about the visa. If you're not going there there's no need to do anything. Just forget about it and don't look back.

    No I was in Australia with him for most of it. Then I came home, he followed. He was here for 3 months. He's gone back 4 months now, broke up with me 2 months ago. We've never argued like the way we had been when he went home. He even said himself if we were together things would have got sorted out a lot easier.

    No I was in Australia with him for most of it. Then I came home, he followed. He was here for 3 months. He's gone back 4 months now, broke up with me 2 months ago. We've never argued like the way we had been when he went home. He even said himself if we were together things would have got sorted out a lot easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Ah, OP, come on.

    Can I ask you what it is you love about this fella? He has treated you very very badly. He has let you know in no uncertain terms where you stand with him. He is not nice to you. He may occasionally say nice things to you but these things aren't backed up in any way by actions.

    Why do you think he's the best you can do for yourself? Why do you think that's the most you deserve or can hope for?

    You are desperately desperately desperately clinging to someone who finds you an irritation at best. Who knows why he says these things to you? It's easy to be nice to someone when they're standing in front of you, I suppose. It's also easy to forget about them and move on without them when they're not standing in front of you. He said things he didn't mean because it was easy at the time. He wouldn't be the first.

    He wants nothing to do with you. He has told you. Keep some of your dignity and stop running after him like a little puppy hoping to find someone to play with. He's done with you.

    Stop contacting him about the visa. You don't need any documentation from him. What exactly are you looking for? He contacted them and told them not to give you a visa because you are not together anymore. Contacting him looking for more is just attention seeking on your part and hoping he'll either change his mind or at least apologise for everything and wish you well.

    He's as far away from you as he physically can be. He doesn't care what you want anymore. And he is certainly not thinking how can he make this easy for you. He's thinking "how can I make her just leave me alone".

    Either contact the visa dept yourself and tell them you are withdrawing the application, or else just ignore it and they will cancel it themselves. You have to jump through various hoops to get a visa, they're not going to come chasing you, knocking your door down to force it into your hand.

    This wasn't a good relationship, OP. It wasn't even a proper relationship really. Most of it was long distance, and according to your other thread most of the time he was lying to you. Raise your standards and expect better the next time round. (Next relationship, not next time with this fella!!)

    Edit: to cut a long story short.... you want him back. He doesn't want you back. He knows you want him back so is doing everything in his power to avoid ever having to deal with you again.

    You can't make someone want to be with you, no matter how much you want it.

    Most of our relationship was together, not long distance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I've been seeing a counsellor and I had to visit my GP as I ended up physically ill from this. I didn't save any money on the visa. I gave him $2000 a couple of weeks before he broke up with me. I actually started seeing the counsellor before we broke up and told him this as I was trying to find a solution to the arguments. I'm just devastated. It's so hard still loving him. I feel like no one understands.

    I think people do understand. To quote a song "Love Hurts".

    It's perfectly normal to miss someone after a breakup, to feel hurt, to feel like you still love them. Break ups are not easy.

    However, that said, you need to put it in context. It was a short relationship, you weren't married, no kids, no shared property or pets. So a clean break. That's a good thing.

    It may have been short, but intense, and maybe this is a learning experience for you, that it's important to keep balance and not get so intense for a short relationship. I think this is why you still feel do bad 2 months later, you are still investing a huge amount of emotion into it.

    You need to stop focusing on it. Put it behind you. Stop thinking about it all the time. Live your life. Date other guys, have some fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I think people do understand. To quote a song "Love Hurts".

    It's perfectly normal to miss someone after a breakup, to feel hurt, to feel like you still love them. Break ups are not easy.

    However, that said, you need to put it in context. It was a short relationship, you weren't married, no kids, no shared property or pets. So a clean break. That's a good thing.

    It may have been short, but intense, and maybe this is a learning experience for you, that it's important to keep balance and not get so intense for a short relationship. I think this is why you still feel do bad 2 months later, you are still investing a huge amount of emotion into it.

    You need to stop focusing on it. Put it behind you. Stop thinking about it all the time. Live your life. Date other guys, have some fun.


    A large part of me thought he was the one. We had so many plans together. I know we had a lot of issues, and I know I acted out of character. It's just devastating that someone you think loves you so much could just give up after a few weeks. He was the one pushing for the visa etc, telling me how the distance between us was killing him, crying down the phone telling me doesn't know what he'd do if anything ever happened to me, talking about how he couldn't wait to wake up next to me everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Have you completely cut contact now as advised OP?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Blindsided wrote: »
    OP this is true, would you think about going to your GP for a referral to someone who can help with your mental health? Use the money you saved on the visa to invest in getting emotionally healthy. You did mention it might be a good idea in the other thread and it will help you before you get into another relationship with a load of baggage from the last one.

    I've been seeing a counsellor and I had to visit my GP as I ended up physically ill from this. I didn't save any money on the visa. I gave him $2000 a couple of weeks before he broke up with me. I actually started seeing the counsellor before we broke up and told him this as I was trying to find a solution to the arguments. I'm just devastated. It's so hard still loving him. I feel like no one understands.

    Why did you give him 2k?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Blindsided wrote: »
    A large part of me thought he was the one. We had so many plans together. I know we had a lot of issues, and I know I acted out of character. It's just devastating that someone you think loves you so much could just give up after a few weeks. He was the one pushing for the visa etc, telling me how the distance between us was killing him, crying down the phone telling me doesn't know what he'd do if anything ever happened to me, talking about how he couldn't wait to wake up next to me everyday.

    Stop thinking about the above, stop typing it, you are indulging in misery here. No one is going to feel good thinking such negative thoughts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Merkin wrote: »
    Have you completely cut contact now as advised OP?

    I haven't contacted him in over a month, I had deleted his number and erased all our text messages. I've making small steps, putting photos away etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Why did you give him 2k?

    To put towards the cost of the visa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I haven't contacted him in over a month, I had deleted his number and erased all our text messages. I've making small steps, putting photos away etc

    That's good progress.If you sustain no contact you will get over him sooner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    OP you said you feel as though no one understands.

    I want you to know that many people don't because they've luckily never had their heart broken, but also many people do.
    I myself went through the mother of all breakups last year - ended up signed off work as I was also physically ill, I had to take anti-depressants for a while, lost a ton of weight etc.

    And then, we got back together! I was so happy...until we broke up again this year. And I had to recover all over again.
    Now luckily, I was nowhere near as bad this time but it has still been almost unbearable at times. It's nearly 6 months to the day now and I'm still not quite right.

    But please believe me when I say, it gets so much easier as the weeks/months go by. I never would have believed I'd feel the way I do now even 2 months ago.

    Just keep busy - that's the main thing - and do whatever you can to stop yourself from sitting around for long periods, thinking about it all.
    Your feelings and hurt will eventually fade.

    I really feel bad for you and I hope you will be OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    Blindsided wrote: »
    I'm just devastated. Two months and i'm still heartbroken. I've been physically ill over this. We had a lot of problems but I wanted to work past them. How can someone go from wanting to spend a life together, get a house, a dog, all these future plans to nothing in the space of a month.

    I'd say the fact ye were LD a lot of the time masked how incompatible ye were and hid a lot of the crazy and dysfunction. It really didn't have a future, maybe loneliness and boredom drove a lot of the romantic notion of 'future plans' He saw the real you with all the jealousy about his ex and decided he didn't want the drama. Rational people don't want relationships filled with issues and drama that has to be constantly 'worked past' with someone who doesn't trust them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'd say the fact ye were LD a lot of the time masked how incompatible ye were and hid a lot of the crazy and dysfunction. It really didn't have a future, maybe loneliness and boredom drove a lot of the romantic notion of 'future plans' He saw the real you with all the jealousy about his ex and decided he didn't want the drama. Rational people don't want relationships filled with issues and drama that has to be constantly 'worked past' with someone who doesn't trust them.

    You need to read that again. We were only long distance for two months. We lived together for 5. "The real me" is not a jealous person. If you had to listen to romantic stories of your partners ex and their sexual antics I think you'd incur a little jealousy too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    OP you said you feel as though no one understands.

    I want you to know that many people don't because they've luckily never had their heart broken, but also many people do.
    I myself went through the mother of all breakups last year - ended up signed off work as I was also physically ill, I had to take anti-depressants for a while, lost a ton of weight etc.

    And then, we got back together! I was so happy...until we broke up again this year. And I had to recover all over again.
    Now luckily, I was nowhere near as bad this time but it has still been almost unbearable at times. It's nearly 6 months to the day now and I'm still not quite right.

    But please believe me when I say, it gets so much easier as the weeks/months go by. I never would have believed I'd feel the way I do now even 2 months ago.

    Just keep busy - that's the main thing - and do whatever you can to stop yourself from sitting around for long periods, thinking about it all.
    Your feelings and hurt will eventually fade.

    I really feel bad for you and I hope you will be OK.

    Thank you. Yeah I surprisingly just came off antidepressants around the time he was leaving to go home. Then I was on various hormone tablets which didn't help my moods and probably didn't help with the arguing.

    My doctor gave me xanax and tablets to help me eat. Im sorry to hear you had such a hard time.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,910 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Blindsided wrote: »
    If you had to listen to romantic stories of your partners ex and their sexual antics I think you'd incur a little jealousy too.

    Why did you have to listen to that? Did you push for the conversation to go in that direction, or did he randomly bring it up?

    You really need to take off your rose-tinted glasses, OP. He's not all that great you know. He lied to you a lot through your relationship. You know he lied, so why do you believe all the other stuff he said? Because it was nice? Because you want to believe it? It doesn't make it true. You were duped. It's not a nice feeling, but accepting that will help you get over him quicker.

    All you can do is continue to move on day by day. Remember all the things he did or said that upset you. Stop clinging to the things that you wanted to hear. There's no guarantee that he meant them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    Blindsided wrote: »
    You need to read that again. We were only long distance for two months. We lived together for 5. "The real me" is not a jealous person.

    Yeah and you said he treated you badly for most of it because he was hung up on his ex. You didn't have a good relationship, you didn't trust him, why would you think there would be some fantasy good relationship in the future, especially how he wasn't over his ex.
    Blindsided wrote: »
    If you had to listen to romantic stories of your partners ex and their sexual antics I think you'd incur a little jealousy too.


    'Had to'? why on earth would you listen to such stories. He was telling you romantic stories about his sex life with his ex??? OP your relationship was very strange and dysfunctional. You have very low standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Why did you have to listen to that? Did you push for the conversation to go in that direction, or did he randomly bring it up?

    You really need to take off your rose-tinted glasses, OP. He's not all that great you know. He lied to you a lot through your relationship. You know he lied, so why do you believe all the other stuff he said? Because it was nice? Because you want to believe it? It doesn't make it true. You were duped. It's not a nice feeling, but accepting that will help you get over him quicker.

    All you can do is continue to move on day by day. Remember all the things he did or said that upset you. Stop clinging to the things that you wanted to hear. There's no guarantee that he meant them.[/QUOT

    He brought it up


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,910 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Well, isn't he just a swell guy!!

    Honestly, OP. I'm beginning to wonder if you're 14 and this was your first boyfriend. Although these days I think 14 year olds would have more self respect than to put up with such a shambles of a relationship.

    I honestly don't know why you are so cut up about this fella. You should be thanking your lucky stars that you didn't waste anymore money on moving to the other side of the world to force a bad relationship to work. Maybe your upset is rooted in the fact that you find it difficult to believe that you put up with all this rubbish from him and the relationship still didn't work out. Maybe you feel for everything you put up with, and all the upset you went through that you deserved a reward at the end of it and the reward was a happy ever after.

    The problem with that is, this fella wasn't capable of giving you a happy every after. You went out for just over a year and for that entire year there were problems. With occasionally good times. The first year of a relationship should have NO bad times!! Seriously. I just dint understand people who seem to have to be in drama filled relationships. Life is hard enough. The one place you should feel safest and most secure and most relaxed and most cherished is in your relationship. If you're having a tough time, your relationship is the place you look for support. Yes, obviously relationships are going to take work and effort and sometimes things can happen to throw them off course a little. But that should be the exception rather than the rule. Weekly even monthly arguments are NOT normal. Feeling bad about yourself because of stories about the ex is not normal either. Always worrying and wondering is not normal. A persons actions tells you more than their words. And his actions were selfish.

    He told you he loved you. Wanted to move in together, get a dog.. whatever?

    I think we should move in together. You should move to my area and we'll get a dog and go on weekends away and have lovely romantic evenings in and walks in the country. It'll be lovely, and so peaceful.

    See how easy it is to say. Doesn't make any of it true, though. He was all talk but when it came to it he wasn't willing to follow through. You're hurt because you believed him and you invested too much to believe now that it was all lies. But it was all lies. He might be a nice fella, but he wasn't good at relationships, or at least this one. Lesson learned. You'll be a bit wiser the next time and if there's things you're uncomfortable with, or not happy with you'll catch them quicker, and not invest so much of yourself in changing someone who doesn't want to be changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP I've been in a similar situation this year, wasted 2 years of my life on someone who I was constantly arguing with, who swayed between putting me down and then promising me the world. For reasons I still can't figure out I was head over heels obsessed with him and when he dumped me I couldn't eat, sleep, work, function. 7 months on I'm feeling much better and I see both him and the relationship for what they really are. You need to sit back and have a good look at yours for what it really was, no good for you! In regards to moving on, cliche as it is time is the only real healer here. You can take as many pills as you like to numb it but it will still take time for the pain to subside. Keep busy, plan a new life for yourself, spend time with friends and family or take up a new hobby. I always felt much better when not sat at home on my own. You will get through this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Chocolate fiend


    Didn't you actually have two other threads about him? He has never ever sounded like a good guy, a nice guy, or a guy who cared a damn about you. Did one of you have a sick mother? maybe him?

    You will look back and realise this was a lucky escape! he probably feels the same.


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