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Do you flash other drivers to warn of speed traps

  • 28-09-2016 7:17pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭


    other cars to warn them that a speed van is up ahead?

    I don't.

    I reckon if you're speeding that's your own lookout, but a lot of drivers seem to think it's the done thing.

    Given the number of deaths and injuries caused by excessive speed, is it mortally acceptable to try to circumvent measures to prevent excessive speed or should I get with the program and flash more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    other cars to warn them that a speed van is up ahead?

    I don't.

    I reckon if you're speeding that's your own lookout, but a lot of drivers seem to think it's the done thing.

    Given the number of deaths and injuries caused by excessive speed, is it mortally acceptable to try to circumvent measures to prevent excessive speed or should I get with the program and flash more?

    Flash 4 cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,907 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    A lot for pervs are gonna be pissed off after looking at this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Get with the programme.

    Excessive speed isn't the only cause of deaths and I'd wager it's not even the number 1.

    The van will do you 1 km over the limit. Which is hardly excessive.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I flash when there's no check points. Bit of a laugh.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    other cars to warn them that a speed van is up ahead?

    I don't.
    Well done you!

    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    I reckon if you're speeding that's your own lookout, but a lot of drivers seem to think it's the done thing.

    Given the number of deaths and injuries caused by excessive speed, is it mortally acceptable to try to circumvent measures to prevent excessive speed or should I get with the program and flash more?
    Isn't the objective to get them to slow down. So what's wrong with flashing them to slow them down rather than a van fining them well after the event?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    kbannon wrote:
    Isn't the objective to get them to slow down. So what's wrong with flashing them to slow them down rather than a van fining them well after the event?

    I'd imagine a few penalty points will have a greater effect than a warning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    kbannon wrote: »
    Well done you!



    Isn't the objective to get them to slow down. So what's wrong with flashing them to slow them down rather than a van fining them well after the event?

    Indeed, as the government always tell us, they'll only put the vans on dangerous stretches of road. It's only fair to warn other motorists there's a dangerous stretch of wide, straight, 100-dropping-to-60kph-for-no-apparent-reason road ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    Sometimes i do and sometimes i don't. If i see someone belting along the road i think eff them they deserve to get caught. Same with people with souped up cars. But sometimes if the van is sitting in a particularly prickish place just looking to shoot fish in a barrel i flash others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Couldn't be arsed,but if someone flashes me I always give the customary index finger salute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Never. Feck them if they want to risk speeding so be it.


    I'm not sure of the law here but in the UK there have been fines issued against people warning others of speed checks.

    Would people flash to warn of a checkpoint as well, so untaxed, uninsured, banned drivers can avoid detection?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭brevity


    I flash if they are coming too fast and there is something around the corner that they might not see until it's too late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    other cars to warn them that a speed van is up ahead?

    Could you not have put that in the title as well?

    Fecking Clickbait titles!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    You should be careful doing this. I was arrested for it once.

    I don't know why they arrested me - it was flaccid ffs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Course I flash. No point being a dick about it. Moved back to Germany and saw the Polizei out with the hairdryer, warned 2 cars after that.
    In fact the radio stations here warn you of speed checks.
    The usual elevated equines about...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭SVJKarate


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Given the number of deaths and injuries caused by excessive speed, is it mortally acceptable to try to circumvent measures to prevent excessive speed or should I get with the program and flash more?

    No and no!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    I'm with letree sometimes I do but if you give me the feeling your a prick hen I'll leave you go,
    Happened me on the cork Kerry country bounds a few weeks ago. Had passed the hour before knew there was speed trap, slowed down, car behind me drove up my ass normally I'd throw the hazards on but he went to over take me so I said **** it let him get caught and pulls in a bit to let him go hahaha loved seeing him get the blue lights! If it one of the vans I'll flash if I see people just to give them the heads up though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    What about sat-navs which have speed camera detectors? In some countries they're not illegal if they're already pre-programmed into the device although I know in Switzerland there's a blanket ban on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Na, never do. If you can't stick to the limit, whether you agree with it or not, you have to be prepared to take your oil.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Na, never do. If you can't stick to the limit, whether you agree with it or not, you have to be prepared to take your oil.
    Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭SVJKarate


    Shint0 wrote: »
    What about sat-navs which have speed camera detectors?

    Even simpler, my Garmin has all speed limits in it, and if I exceed the limit it sounds a warning. A simple driving aid which assists drivers to stay safe. I think all new cars should be fitted with them.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    kbannon wrote:
    Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit?

    Have you ever warned a drunk driver there's a Garda checkpoint ahead?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Have you ever warned a drunk driver there's a Garda checkpoint ahead?

    Clip clop clip clop...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭The Wolverine


    I was hoping for some recommendations on rain jackets that kept you warm without needing to wear anything underneath

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Story a few years ago supposed to have happened somewhere in small town usa.

    Cops had a speed check out for hours but didn't catch a single car speeding.

    On their way back to the station they saw a young fella quickly turning a placard he was holding away so the cops couldn't see what was written on it. The cops stopped and asked to see it but it only had the word "TIPS" written on it and the kid had a load of change and dollar bills in a big bucket. Up the road the cops pulled in and one went back on foot. He saw a 2nd kid approach with another placard. When he checked this one it said " Speed Cops 500 yards " So one kid had been warning the traffic and the 2nd kid collecting the tips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭CFlat


    I have an irrational hatred of traffic wardens and speed check vans. When I see either my blood boils to a point that I want to tear someones head off(I'm not normally a violent person), so when it comes to speed cameras, yes, I will always flash drivers.

    So if you are distracted by a child in the back of your car or somebody talking/arguing with you or tou're on a phone call(speaker phone of course, ahem) or just thinking about something else and you drift slightly over the speed limit, don't worry, I'll be there to let you know to pull it back.

    You're welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    No, as I hate when I am just under the speed limit and doing my best to stay in the limit, lets say a 60km/hr area and some driver behind thinks it is a good idea to go faster than the speed limit and is then stuck on the rear as if I had been intentionally going slow for the fun of it.
    People should take personal responsibility.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Have you ever warned a drunk driver there's a Garda checkpoint ahead?
    You seriously think the two are similar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Another Irish tradition bites the dust!

    I often ponder the fact that I won't live to see the 20 something generation inherit the nation. It will be really funny!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    kbannon wrote:
    You seriously think the two are similar?


    Explain the difference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Explain the difference.

    One has a semblence of responsibility and knowledge of what they are doing, the other is downright careless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭CFlat


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Have you ever warned a drunk driver there's a Garda checkpoint ahead?

    Here's something that pisses me off. Why do gards sit down the road from a pub surreptitiously to catch drivers when they could just park in the car park of the pub at closing time with their lights flashing so that no one would attempt to get into their cars and drive home drunk. Surely that would work.

    I was driving home one night and I passed a check point not far from my local so when I got to my house I rang the pub and told the owner. They were clearly waiting for the locals to go home. I wasn't going to be having that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    CFlat wrote:
    Here's something that pisses me off. Why do gards sit down the road from a pub surreptitiously to catch drivers when they could just park in the car park of the pub at closing time with their lights flashing so that no one would attempt to get into their cars and drive home drunk. Surely that would work.


    Probably because people who drive when drunk should be convicted and put off the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    I flash when there's no check points. Bit of a laugh.


    I hate that, when you get flashed by an oncoming car and then drive like a granny for the next couple of miles in anticipation of a non existent speed trap.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Explain the difference.

    Driving whilst under the influence be it alcohol or drugs is dangerous.
    Exceeding an arbitrarily chosen speed limit is not necessarily dangerous.
    Do you really think doing 120km/h at 2am on the M50's 100km/h stretch is dangerous?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    kbannon wrote:
    Driving whilst under the influence be it alcohol or drugs is dangerous. Exceeding an arbitrarily chosen speed limit is not necessarily dangerous. Do you really think doing 120km/h at 2am on the M50's 100km/h stretch is dangerous?


    Who decides the "necessarily" bit of your second point?
    In fact why is there a "necessarily" in the second point but not the first.

    As to your example, we can all do that. Do you really think drinking 2pints is as dangerous as doing 150km/hr on a narrow country road.

    See?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    kbannon wrote: »
    Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit?

    All the time, and if I get caught it's my own hard luck for not obeying the posted limit. No time for motorists that can't take responsibility for their own actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    I flash for every speed van I see, and the favour has been reciprocated on a few occasions. Seems to me there's quite a few self-righteous tw*ts on this thread, but despite the likes of them the tradition lives on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    kbannon wrote: »
    Driving whilst under the influence be it alcohol or drugs is dangerous.
    Exceeding an arbitrarily chosen speed limit is not necessarily dangerous.
    Do you really think doing 120km/h at 2am on the M50's 100km/h stretch is dangerous?

    Maybe not. Nevertheless, society cannot be governed by people deciding what laws they will observe or not.

    Do you really think if I stole a million quid from Bill Gates it would make any difference to his life or to anyone elses apart from mine ? It wouldnt. So its OK for me to steal from Bill Gates ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    I always flash. Always. Whether it's a checkpoint, van, pulled-in squad car or unmarked banger.
    I flash for about a mile beyond it; after that it's up to someone else to pass on the favour.


    Seeing as the van no longer operates in accident black-spots and rumours of quotas being issued, I have no intention of ever stopping my courtesy.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I flash when there's no check points. Bit of a laugh.

    I do this to people who look like they are barely holding the road on Irelands delightful array of N roads. I would be inclined not to do this if I though there was a checkpoint or speed van ahead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


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    Disappointed :(

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    Less than funny when the inspiration is the Yorkshire Ripper I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    kbannon wrote: »
    Do you really think doing 120km/h at 2am on the M50's 100km/h stretch is dangerous?

    Stopped doing it because the motorway is littered with speed vans at that time of night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Stopped doing it because the motorway is littered with speed vans at that time of night.

    Shooting fish in a barrel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    I'd imagine a few penalty points will have a greater effect than a warning.

    But the location is dangerous so allowing a vehicle to exceed the posted limit means that the government is culpable if an RTC happens. A warning will slow the vehicle down and save a life, penalty points don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I don't.

    Btw. What I see a lot lately is people doing the flashing and then no speed van to be seen anywhere. Whats that all about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    When someone flashes me , I turn on my blue light just to see the look of panic on thier face.

    I got the blue light on d'internet. It's a pretendy one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Selfish A-holes don't flash their fellow motorists to warn them of Cops/Gatso's up ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Selfish A-holes don't flash their fellow motorists to warn them of Cops/Gatso's up ahead

    Well, where I live it has come full circle and the entire town lives through a total overreaction to the presence of the speed van. Our road used to be a hundred and it can well take it, nice big wide road. People used to do a hundred and more. Never an accident.
    Now the road is 80 and we have a designated speed van stretch. And people are doing 70 or even 60 to be sure. Its doing my head in and the last thing I want to do is fuel the madness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    CFlat wrote: »
    Shooting fish in a barrel.

    Bizarre attitude.

    Which is the sensible and efficient thing to do. If your goal is to hunt fish, and you have a barrel full of them, then of course you will go to shoot them in the barrel rather than the trouble of finding them widely dispersed in the sea.
    Yet somehow people seem to think catching speeders in a target rich zone is devious or unfair. It not a game intended to give the speeder some sporting chance - the aim is to catch them.

    The more people have points, and the more people have high points, the more they will slow down.
    The more shooting fish in a barrel that goes on, the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭justshane


    I'd flash at a Speed van but not a breathalyser check point. It's easy to accidentally go above the speed limit but nobody can have any excuse for being above the drink driving limit.


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