Make more than €15 to scrap a car?

cormie

Hey folks,
Someone I know has a 99 focus sitting up unused at a property they don't live at for the last year or so and although it's driveable, it's not feasible to get it passed the NCT from the work it needs.

The interior is a mess aswell, mould everywhere and kinda filthy.

He founds some place that would collect it and give him €15 for it and I think issue a scrap cert, but I think this sounds like very little?

Without trying to sell it as this would probably take more time than it would be worth dealing with calls and meeting etc, any more profitable suggestions to get more than €15?

I think it could be driven to a local scrap yard safely enough. South Dublin/North Wicklow area.

But if all that's in that would be an extra €50 or so, maybe the €15 collected option is best?

Any feedback appreciated

colm_mcm

Steel isn't worth anything at the moment. Just cut your losses and get rid.

Cee-Jay-Cee

He's €15 up and doesn't have to lift a finger to get rid of it. In order to drive it to a scrap yard they need tax and insurance and NCT. Chances are you could make it there without getting stopped or being involved in an incident but is it worth the risk? And if the car has been lying up for that long then it's not going to be roadworthy and the brakes may be seized. Take the €15 and wave goodbye just make sure the VLC goes back to Shannon showing the car as being scrapped.

cormie

Thanks for the advice folks.

So the procedure would be that they would fill in the VLC and then he would send it off as he would usually do in a transfer of ownership? I thought it might be different if the scrappy is a registered scrapper and could issue the scrap cert, or however it works

darragh o meara

My advice would be to stick it on done deal for 100 quid as spares or repair. Somebody somewhere could well be looking for a few bits to get their own through a test and a full car might be better for them.

At 100 quid, the fact that it drives. The car should sell pretty quickly with minimal hassle. A few years back scrap was valuable and you could easily make 100 quid by scrapping it but the value of scrap is pretty bad at the moment.

If you do go down that road be pretty firm on the price and mention it in the ad, at 100 quid there's no real point in haggling.

Good luck.

Del2005

darragh o meara wrote: »

My advice would be to stick it on done deal for 100 quid as spares or repair. Somebody somewhere could well be looking for a few bits to get their own through a test and a full car might be better for them.

At 100 quid, the fact that it drives. The car should sell pretty quickly with minimal hassle. A few years back scrap was valuable and you could easily make 100 quid by scrapping it but the value of scrap is pretty bad at the moment.

If you do go down that road be pretty firm on the price and mention it in the ad, at 100 quid there's no real point in haggling.

Good luck.

Loads of time wasters for €100, which will always be €80 in the end, is not worth the hassle, especially since the car isn't even where they live.

OP they need to get a certificate of destruction from the scrapper. Make sure that the company are registered for vehicle end of life.

savagethegoat

advertise at €95 take€50 if offered.

Make sure to fill out the taxbook and you post it.

cormie

Thanks again folks. Certificate of destruction, I knew it was something like that.

The thing about it is, they'll have to go there anyway to meet either a scrappy or a buyer, but if the buyer pulls out, then it's been a complete waste.

If it was a definite sale before they met then fair enough, but always a chance they'll say no.

Mech1

Tell any buyer, key over the wheel, 100 bucks in the letterbox, you fill out the form, details over the phone after its gone.

Whats to loose? €15.

air

Mech1 wrote: »

Tell any buyer, key over the wheel, 100 bucks in the letterbox, you fill out the form, details over the phone after its gone.

Whats to loose? €15.

Plenty, like they take the car without paying and run up all sorts of offences which you are then left to deal with.

Mech1

air wrote: »

Plenty, like they take the car without paying and run up all sorts of offences which you are then left to deal with.

Think it through.... they turn up, nobody home so they call you. You call them back to verify number, tell them the deal about key money etc. also tell them they are on camera and theft will be reported. simples!

cormie

As long as their signature and address are on the form, is it no longer the responsibility of the current owner though? I mean if they decided to drive it home and it packed in on the way home and was to cost €150 to tow to where they wanted it to and they decided it wasn't worth it and left it there, who'd be responsible for it and what would happen it?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Recently sold a car in similar condition. Advertised for 250, sold for 150 but honestly wasn't worth the hassle. I had non stop calls from what could only be described as scumbags. Hassle. Even the guy who bought it wanted to bring it back. "I'll call round with Da boyz nd get my money back" texts. People dont understand sold as seen. Every problem listed on ad, still got a million texts asking what was wrong with it..texts asking would I sell it for 35... It was honestly not worth it. If u get 15 u get 15, you may get 100 off someone on done deal but by god you'll work for it.

Del2005

Mech1 wrote: »

Think it through.... they turn up, nobody home so they call you. You call them back to verify number, tell them the deal about key money etc. also tell them they are on camera and theft will be reported. simples!

Stick €100 into some random house and I'll post the VLC to Shannon. How does the potential buyer verify its not stolen and what's to stop the seller reporting it stolen? I wouldn't buy anything without meeting the seller and verifying that they own it.

air

cormie wrote: »

As long as their signature and address are on the form, is it no longer the responsibility of the current owner though?

Yes but that requires you to meet them and verify their ID so you can be sure it's being transferred to a real person. Otherwise what's to stop people filling in any John Doe's details & sending off the form if it was a guaranteed get out of jail card.
The CCTV plan above is laughable.

Mech1

Del2005 wrote: »

Stick €100 into some random house and I'll post the VLC to Shannon. How does the potential buyer verify its not stolen and what's to stop the seller reporting it stolen? I wouldn't buy anything without meeting the seller and verifying that they own it.

Remember its not a €20,000 yoke. Its a €15 scrap value car.

Mech1

air wrote: »

Yes but that requires you to meet them and verify their ID so you can be sure it's being transferred to a real person. Otherwise what's to stop people filling in any John Doe's details & sending off the form if it was a guaranteed get out of jail card.
The CCTV plan above is laughable.

Can you verify someones id? like could it be fake? €15 car remember we are just lookin to make a couple more quid not anything else.

air

Mech1 wrote: »

Remember its not a €20,000 yoke. Its a €15 scrap value car.

You're missing the point completely, the buyer risks buying a stolen car, you risk having offences racked up in a car that your name is on record for.
It's nothing to do with the €15.

Mech1

air wrote: »

You're missing the point completely, the buyer risks buying a stolen car, you risk having offences racked up in a car that your name is on record for.
It's nothing to do with the €15.

If your that worried about it dont do it!:D

But it works, and remember most people are honest enough, only a few are scumbags and they can make us all afraid, dont bow down to it, take the risk if they sound wrong dont divulge the info.

air

Mech1 wrote: »

Can you verify someones id? like could it be fake? €15 car remember we are just lookin to make a couple more quid not anything else.

I sure as **** can verify someone's identity a lot better in person checking out a driver's licence or passport than I can looking at some shadows on a grainy CCTV image. Look each to their own, I hope your immense trust is never betrayed.
As the honey monster has alluded, an ad for a €15 car is likely to attract the cream of society.

Del2005

Mech1 wrote: »

If your that worried about it dont do it!:D

But it works, and remember most people are honest enough, only a few are scumbags and they can make us all afraid, dont bow down to it, take the risk if they sound wrong dont divulge the info.

You're selling a car for scrap. A lot of the people dealing in scrap cars aren't honest, why else did they have to bring in official vehicle end of life centres.

jimbis

Ring Leon recycling in arklow and they'll give you a price. Last car I scrapped with them I got €80. They pick it up, hand you the cash/cheque and you give them the log book. Cert of destruction gets posted out to you.

Del2005

jimbis wrote: »

Ring Leon recycling in arklow and they'll give you a price. Last car I scrapped with them I got €80. They pick it up, hand you the cash/cheque and you give them the log book. Cert of destruction gets posted out to you.

How long ago was that? Scrap metal is worthless these days and a lot of places are charging to collect scrap vehicles.

jimbis

Del2005 wrote: »

How long ago was that? Scrap metal is worthless these days and a lot of places are charging to collect scrap vehicles.

Good few months ago to be honest, but I've always found them the best price when you take into consideration it's zero hassle involved.
Worth a call anyway OP.

bladebrew

I scrapped my 16 year old Saxo yesterday, the exhaust had split, it was leaking oil and needed 2 new tyres, I didn't want to put any more money into it,
It was €15 a tonne scrap value, so she made €12.70!
I drove it there, got a cert of destruction straight away, I had 3 full months of tax left so after a bit of form filling I will get a €93 refund,
That's not too bad, I could have fixed it and sold it for €300-€400 if I was lucky but decided it wasn't worth the Donedeal hassle,

skywanderer

Park it in a field and wait for the value of scrap to rise, at the mean time start selling parts from it on ebay and adverts.ie.

cormie

Haha, some great stuff above €12.70 after driving it there and everything? Similar to what I got for some old batteries I did a 40 minute detour from a route to get rid of when I could have just dropped them off at a local place for free.

Parking it in a field and waiting for scrap metal prices to rise too, where would I find a field and what's that going to get me extra, maybe €50 or so after waiting 2 years and constantly checking scrap prices

I could put it on donedeal for 150, insist it's taken with a tow truck and insist that I will need to see a copy of a valid ID and to take a photo of it and that the name and address on the ID must match what's going on the log book.

I could then edit my number to exclude the last 3 digits and then have each digit hidden in the add within the info I want people reading

Nekarsulm

Use a "done deal" only sim card in a spare phone if selling it. Then when its sold, switch off the phone.

Mech1

Mech1 wrote: »

Tell any buyer, key over the wheel, 100 bucks in the letterbox, you fill out the form, details over the phone after its gone.

Whats to loose? €15.

Mech1 wrote: »

Think it through.... they turn up, nobody home so they call you. You call them back to verify number, tell them the deal about key money etc. also tell them they are on camera and theft will be reported. simples!

Wtf?

What's the advantage here?

cormie

jimbis wrote: »

Ring Leon recycling in arklow and they'll give you a price. Last car I scrapped with them I got €80. They pick it up, hand you the cash/cheque and you give them the log book. Cert of destruction gets posted out to you.

€30

We could have a winner!

savagethegoat

take it if they are collecting and will give you a cert of destruction

bladebrew

cormie wrote: »

Haha, some great stuff above €12.70 after driving it there and everything?

Yeah I had heard scrap was €15 a tonne and it only weighs 820kg!
It had an NCT until July next year but I have no idea how it passed!
There were not many parts worth selling even on it,

Special Circumstances

bladebrew wrote: »

Yeah I had heard scrap was €15 a tonne and it only weighs 820kg!
It had an NCT until July next year but I have no idea how it passed!
There were not many parts worth selling even on it,

When steel was worth anything they'd charge you this fee and that fee for tyre/oil/battery (?) disposal.

You would have ended up owing them money if they were still strict about that!

cormie

Finally had a chance to snap some photos of it so let's see how I get on with this: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-ford-focus-1-4-lx-parts-breaking-sold-as-is/13610161


Plenty of T+C to cut down on the time wasters.

savagethegoat

a bit OTT perhaps?might put people off

cormie

Yeah probably, if I don't hear from anyone I'll tone it down and maybe not require the photo ID match to start with.

McGrath5

Best of luck with the sale OP

I sold my girlfriends old Micra a few years back for around the same money. It was proper hassle ie I had travellers and all sorts of scumbags calling for 2 days straight until I sold the car.

Also it would be no harm to buy a new prepay sim so you can throw it out once you move the car on.

honda boi

I got rid of my 99 focus just like your one.
Tried adverts for 100€ and not one person commented or called. And my ad was just saying for parts or repair,nothing like I'd need ID or any of that stuff from the buyer. I'd say that wont help it sell.
In the end I got a scrapyard to take it away for €50.
Didn't need to fill logbook out,lad came and collected it and gave me a cert of destruction.

Seth Brundle

Mech1 wrote: »

Think it through.... they turn up, nobody home so they call you. You call them back to verify number, tell them the deal about key money etc. also tell them they are on camera and theft will be reported. simples!

I'm not sure if that would be a valid defence when in court for speeding, etc. :rollleyes:

Buffman

cormie wrote: »

Plenty of T+C to cut down on the time wasters.

TBH if I had first looked at that ad on DD without being linked from this thread, I would have assumed it was either a peetake, or Jim Corr was the seller:). So I hope you don't mind some constructive criticism.

Not economical to get through NCT

Maybe add a quick run down or what's wrong with it, what's not economical to some people might be to others. As well as knowing what parts aren't salvageable.

Mileage unknown, NCT Expiry date unknown, Tax Cost Unknown

I can't see any reason not to put up the mileage, unless the dash isn't working? Same with NCT date, put the reg in here and it'll tell you when it expired. And the tax is €385, not that it matters much in this case.

Photo ID (driver's license or passport) must be provided and a photographic copy taken for records, safety and security.

I've no problem with showing ID, it's prudent for both parties to check each others ID for various reasons. But in a private sale, no way would I allow a seller to retain a copy of my information once the VLC is filled out and posted. Yes, I'll take the chance that a seller has a photographic memory. (And yes, I know I sound like Jim Corr with that one:D) Obviously won't be an issue if it's sold for scrap as you should get a certificate of destruction there and then.

Finally, the price. If you're expecting somebody to collect it for scrap, the scrap price of the car probably won't cover the diesel at the moment, never mind time, so be prepared to literally give it away. A lot depends on what the catalytic converter is worth. (EDIT: just reread the OP, taking the €15 might just be the easiest.)

Good luck with it anyway.

9935452

honda boi wrote: »

I got rid of my 99 focus just like your one.
Tried adverts for 100€ and not one person commented or called. And my ad was just saying for parts or repair,nothing like I'd need ID or any of that stuff from the buyer. I'd say that wont help it sell.
In the end I got a scrapyard to take it away for €50.
Didn't need to fill logbook out,lad came and collected it and gave me a cert of destruction.

Personally i dont find adverts the best for selling stuff.
There seems to be too many timewasters and stupid offers.

That said DD is going that way too .
I find if people text about something they are more than like not end up buying.
Now i seem to be getting a lot of stupid offers too.
You advertise something for 1750 with 'no offers' in the ad and get asked how much is the minimum you will accept.
Answer 1400. Anything less and i will keep it.
Will you take 700 for cash today??

There are an aweful lot of time wasters out there

cormie

Thanks a lot for the feedback again folks. Updated the ad after I jumped it yesterday and it started up after a few minutes, checked the electronic mileage on dash as the battery was completely dead. It seemed to be running grand, but I went to switch on the lights and as soon as I did, the engine just cut and battery seemed completely dead again.

Didn't make so may conditions for the ad either

Buffman

Ye, the ad's better now, let us know how you get on. Good luck.