People blocking public parking with cones

embraer170

I am seeing ever more people in parts of Tralee blocking public street parking spaces with traffic cones.

I have attached some recent photos from Strand street.

Some of these houses have their own driveways to park their cars but are still blocking the space outside their house with a cone.

I also wonder where they got the cones.:rolleyes:

irish_goat

Just move the cones. I lift cones off the road all the time.

embraer170

irish_goat wrote: »

Just move the cones. I lift cones off the road all the time.

I have no problem doing that. My parents in their 70s would never dare. It is really for the Council to do something about it.

dobman88

embraer170 wrote: »

I have no problem doing that. My parents in their 70s would never dare. It is really for the Council to do something about it.

Why do your parents in their 70's want to park in front of people's houses?

embraer170

dobman88 wrote: »

Why do your parents in their 70's want to park in front of people's houses?

Why should the reason matter if it's a public road and public street parking?

irish_goat

embraer170 wrote: »

I have no problem doing that. My parents in their 70s would never dare. It is really for the Council to do something about it.

Lift them and move them somewhere else. They'll give up if the cones constantly go missing.

dobman88

embraer170 wrote: »

Why should the reason matter if it's a public road and public street parking?

Maybe the people that live there have more than one car so block the space for themselves?

Not seeing a problem with that myself

Rubberchikken

maybe people are tired of others parking in a way that blocks them from entering/leaving their driveway.
some people are very thoughtless when parking.

embraer170

Rubberchikken wrote: »

maybe people are tired of others parking in a way that blocks them from entering/leaving their driveway.
some people are very thoughtless when parking.

Except that the cones aren't even near the driveway.

irish_goat

Rubberchikken wrote: »

maybe people are tired of others parking in a way that blocks them from entering/leaving their driveway.
some people are very thoughtless when parking.

Look at the photos, none of the cones are in front of driveways.

theteal

They're all just expecting really important large deliveries. . .

embraer170

dobman88 wrote: »

Maybe the people that live there have more than one car so block the space for themselves?

Not seeing a problem with that myself

Do people own the space in front of their houses? Who pays to take care of it?

If I break my leg because of a pothole there, should my insurance company be chasing the council or the homeowner?

Riskymove

embraer170 wrote: »

Except that the cones aren't even near the driveway.

The houses don't have driveways which I presume is the issue

Having to park far away form your house would be frustrating I imagine. It doesn't make the cones right or make it a legal issue but I can understand why people do it.

Atlantic Dawn

They are claiming ownership of the public road outside their house as if it were their own property which they have no right to, simply move the cones. If your buying a house and require additional parking spaces but a house with enough spaces.

The Skoda Octavia parked on the path in picture 1 should be reported to the Gardaí for obstructing the footpath

embraer170

Riskymove wrote: »

The houses don't have driveways which I presume is the issue

Having to park far away form your house would be frustrating I imagine. It doesn't make the cones right or make it a legal issue but I can understand why people do it.

Next time I am out I will take a few photos of houses with driveways doing the same.

There is no excuse for the privatisation of public space. What bugs me is that it used be one person doing it, but it has spread like mad in recent months. If there is a problem with abuse (people working for example), the locals should lobby for residential disc parking... but they don't want that for other reasons.

dobman88

Why are you getting so worked up over this? What's the actual issue you have?

Teyla Emmagan

Ring the council and get them to come along and lift all the cones. You can't reserve part of a public road for yourself, for any reason.

veetwin

dobman88 wrote: »

Why do your parents in their 70's want to park in front of people's houses?on a public road?

FYP

Why do people with a sense of entitlement feel they own a part of a public road?

endagibson

dobman88 wrote: »

Why do your parents in their 70's want to park in front of people's houses?

Probably because they want to stop the car and get out.

Ciarrai76

I have a feeling there's no paid parking there and it's being done by residents to stop people parking there all day & walking To their work or to try & stop people parking there while going to the Bons.

Unless they own that patch of land they can't legally stop people parking there.

endagibson

dobman88 wrote: »

Why are you getting so worked up over this? What's the actual issue you have?

The issue is explained in the very first sentence. As for getting worked up, you'll need to show where you see this. I've pasted the OP in below to make this easier.

embraer170 wrote: »

I am seeing ever more people in parts of Tralee blocking public street parking spaces with traffic cones.

I have attached some recent photos from Strand street.

Some of these houses have their own driveways to park their cars but are still blocking the space outside their house with a cone.

I also wonder where they got the cones.

dobman88

endagibson wrote: »

The issue is explained in the very first sentence. As for getting worked up, you'll need to show where you see this. I've pasted the OP in below to make this easier.

So move the cones and tell your parents they're entitled to move them. Problem solved.

Boom__Boom

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Ring the council and get them to come along and lift all the cones. You can't reserve part of a public road for yourself, for any reason.

I wonder what sort of reaction you got if you reported them for littering?

EndaHonesty

embraer170 wrote: »

I am seeing ever more people in parts of Tralee blocking public street parking spaces with traffic cones.

I have attached some recent photos from Strand street.

Some of these houses have their own driveways to park their cars but are still blocking the space outside their house with a cone.

I also wonder where they got the cones.:rolleyes:

It looks like a residential area.
Why would you want to park there?
Are you visiting residents?

audi12

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They are claiming ownership of the public road outside their house as if it were their own property which they have no right to, simply move the cones. If your buying a house and require additional parking spaces but a house with enough spaces.

The Skoda Octavia parked on the path in picture 1 should be reported to the Gardaí for obstructing the footpath

Reported to the guards someone would have little for doing reporting a car for bad parking ffs.. As if they would come out to look at it.

I have the small van. Sometimes I pick these up off the road, I have about 8-9 in my shed.

Ginger83

audi12 wrote: »

Reported to the guards someone would have little for doing reporting a car for bad parking ffs.. As if they would come out to look at it.

How would a wheelchair get past?

Felix Jones is God

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have the small van. Sometimes I pick these up off the road, I have about 8-9 in my shed.

Ah, so you're a thief too

Ginger83

embraer170 wrote: »

I am seeing ever more people in parts of Tralee blocking public street parking spaces with traffic cones.

I have attached some recent photos from Strand street.

Some of these houses have their own driveways to park their cars but are still blocking the space outside their house with a cone.

I also wonder where they got the cones.:rolleyes:

But they're just plastic cones. A car would push them out of the way while parking.

Its like a pub reserving a loading bay waiting on a delivery. I've moved many kegs left blocking bays and told many staff waiting to move, no right whatsoever.

Lia_lia

I live in Cork City and see this all the time. Actually picked up two cones and moved them today so I could park. I have a residents parking permit so can park on a few of the public roads near my house.

It's mainly builders/tradesmen that do it here. I guess I can see why they do, they have big vans and it's extremely hard to find parking on the street here. Still though, they are not allowed and it's unfair on residents. I said it to a traffic warden once and he just said to move the cones. Sometimes afraid the builders will do something to my car though.

lawred2

dobman88 wrote: »

Maybe the people that live there have more than one car so block the space for themselves?

Not seeing a problem with that myself

They don't own the road way like

Sam Kade

There's a pub in mallow where the owner puts s beer barrel in a parking space outside his pub. It's s pay parking area maybe the council should send him a bill for parking the beer barrel there holding up a space.

Felix Jones is God

lawred2 wrote: »

They don't own the road way like

This isn't Facebook...don't like your own posts

byhookorbycrook

Certain places in Dingle did this over the summer. If it were tradespeople needing the space for moving heavy goods in to a house, I left the cones. Otherwise, I lifted the cones and parked where I needed to with my blue badge facing up.

ongarboy

EndaHonesty wrote: »

It looks like a residential area.
Why would you want to park there?
Are you visiting residents?

This area is Strand Street and the demand for free parking by non residents is two fold. Visitors to the Bons Secours hospital located on that street want to avoid their parking charges so will use the street and secondly, as Strand Street is one of the nearest residential areas to the town centre, it's feasible for workers to park there and still only be less than 10 minutes walk from work so will park their all day to avoid having to pay daily/hourly rates in the town centre car parks.

I thought they had pay meters on the stretch opposite the hospital but maybe it doesn't extend to O'Rahilly Villas where these photos are.

Sleeper12

Public road is just that. Public. You have no legal right to park in front of your own house. Just move the cones. My mother is 84 and could move cones if needed.

EndaHonesty

ongarboy wrote: »

This area is Strand Street and the demand for free parking by non residents is two fold. Visitors to the Bons Secours hospital located on that street want to avoid their parking charges so will use the street and secondly, as Strand Street is one of the nearest residential areas to the town centre, it's feasible for workers to park there and still only be less than 10 minutes walk from work so will park their all day to avoid having to pay daily/hourly rates in the town centre car parks.

I thought they had pay meters on the stretch opposite the hospital but maybe it doesn't extend to O'Rahilly Villas where these photos are.

Based on your description it's not hard to figure out why these people have to resort to putting out cones.

The people live there and I have no doubt that if they don't put out cones they have great difficulty in parking outside their own houses.

These people pay property tax.
They are entitled to park outside their houses.

The real question is why do hospitals charge for parking?
People do not visit hospitals by choice.
They HAVE to be there to visit loved ones at a difficult time.

Charging for parking at a hospital is a disgrace.

Post about that.

embraer170

EndaHonesty wrote: »

It looks like a residential area.
Why would you want to park there?
Are you visiting residents?

Do people now have to justify why they want to park on a public road?

EndaHonesty

embraer170 wrote: »

Do people now have to justify why they want to park on a public road?

The world is not black & white. It is various shades of grey...

In this situation , as in most others, context is key...

embraer170

EndaHonesty wrote: »

Based on your description it's not hard to figure out why these people have to resort to putting out cones.

The people live there and I have no doubt that if they don't put out cones they have great difficulty in parking outside their own houses.

These people pay property tax.
They are entitled to park outside their houses.

It's a public street. As it stands, they are as entitled as anyone else with a car.

If there is a problem with parking abuse, they should lobby for resident disc parking.

embraer170

EndaHonesty wrote: »

The world is not black & white. It is various shades of grey...

Your point is?

People attempting to privatise public space is a real issue.

Felix Jones is God

Felix Jones is God wrote: »

Ah, so you're a thief too

Really? Who owns it abandoned on the road?

EndaHonesty

embraer170 wrote: »

Your point is?

People attempting to privatise public space is a real issue.

That's exactly what is going on here. Well done you. :rolleyes:

EndaHonesty

Deleted User wrote: »

Really? Who owns it abandoned on the road?

Are the cars similarly abandoned? Why is car theft a crime?

EndaHonesty

EndaHonesty wrote: »

Are the cars similarly abandoned? Why is car theft a crime?

I worry for you if you don't know the differences

EndaHonesty

Deleted User wrote: »

I worry for you if you don't know the differences

I worry for you if you can't figure out my point.

Reference the post I quoted and work backwards...

byhookorbycrook

ongarboy wrote: »

This area is Strand Street and the demand for free parking by non residents is two fold. Visitors to the Bons Secours hospital located on that street want to avoid their parking charges so will use the street and secondly, as Strand Street is one of the nearest residential areas to the town centre, it's feasible for workers to park there and still only be less than 10 minutes walk from work so will park their all day to avoid having to pay daily/hourly rates in the town centre car parks.

I thought they had pay meters on the stretch opposite the hospital but maybe it doesn't extend to O'Rahilly Villas where these photos are.

I am in the Bons once a month, would never dream of parking on the street outside, even when my legs decide to be (relatively) good.

Felix Jones is God

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I worry for you if you don't know the differences

And a thief is still a thief

audi12

Ginger83 wrote: »

How would a wheelchair get past?

Are the guards going to come out and deal with a badly parked car no there not they would likely hang up on the caller and tell the person to get a life.

Guffy

Riskymove wrote: »

The houses don't have driveways which I presume is the issue

Having to park far away form your house would be frustrating I imagine. It doesn't make the cones right or make it a legal issue but I can understand why people do it.

Neither, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on either way

Ginger83

audi12 wrote: »

Are the guards going to come out and deal with a badly parked car no there not they would likely hang up on the caller and tell the person to get a life.

Would they?

What if it was a disabled person in a wheelchair ringing for help because they cant get past???

And what a disabled person had an accident having been ignored...ie...tumbling a wheelchair off the kerb onto the road trying to get around this car. I'd say that would call for a personal injury claim against this cars insurance policy!

Maybe you should see things from more sides than through the eyes of a lazy motorist. That car should be towed.

There was a book printed....what was it....dear oh dear....emmm...oh yea the rules of the road!