Slightly insulting romantic songs

Olishi4

Was listening to 10cc earlier today singing "im not in love" and it's kind of a slightly insulting romantic song.

Looked it up and this is apparently the meaning behind the song...

“It’s just a silly phase I’m going through”, sings Eric Stewart, who co-wrote the song with Graham Gouldman. However, the song was inspired by a comment his wife, Gloria – then of eight years, now of nearer 50 – made, that he didn’t tell her he loved her often enough.
Stewart told Sound on Sound in 2005 that he didn’t want to devalue the meaning of the phrase by saying it too frequently, but her thoughts made him “try to figure out another way of saying it, and the result was that I chose to say 'I'm not in love with you,' while subtly giving all the reasons throughout the song why I could never let go of this relationship."

so any other almost insulting romantic songs posters can think of and why are they so effective?

The only other one I can think of now is "Jealous Guy" by John Lennon. He shows a very vulnerable side in that song which is what i think makes it work.

TheQuietFella

Diary - David Gates / Bread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24IfD-0VUu4

PARlance

Sir Mix A Lot - Baby got back

mzungu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UAYGxiRwU

drunkmonkey

Juce Newton offering herself up as a fcuk buddy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzGMEfbnAw

Outlaw Pete

Billy Joel's 'Always A Woman'.

She can wound with her eyes
She can ruin your faith with her casual lies
She only reveals what she wants you to see
She hides like a child
She can take you or leave you
She can ask for the truth but she'll never believe you
She'll take what you give her as long as it's free
She steals like a thief
She takes care of herself
She'll carelessly cut you then laugh while you're bleedin'

But she's always a woman to me...

Yeah, she sounds like a fcuking nutcase to be me, Billy, tbf.

evolving_doors

mzungu wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UAYGxiRwU

Although by her trying to insult the person, she's ironically insulting herself...

"You probably think this song is about you, don't you...."

of course the song is about him Carly, otherwise you wouldn't be singing about him and his vanity. If it wasn't about him then the lyrics would have to go...

"You're so vain, You probably think this song is about you, don't you....you're so vain..You probably think this song is about you, don't you, don't don't you... ... well it's not it's about the other guy nananananaaaaa".

Olishi4

Oh...can't believe I forgot one of my favourite songs "It Aint Me Babe" -Bob Dylan

learn_more

Nothing is insulting unless it targets a specific person, not some notional person.

Thanks to the guys that provided the youtube links. Great songs.

Olishi4

learn_more wrote: »

Nothing is insulting unless it targets a specific person, not some notional person.

Thanks to the guys that provided the youtube links. Great songs.

I like to think that when someone writes a song that they had someone in mind

ahlookit

REM - The one I love. Not the happy clappy song the title suggests...

This one goes out to the one I love
This one goes out to the one I've left behind
A simple prop to occupy my time
This one goes out to the one I love

In the last verse it switches to "another prop has occupied my time"

gossamer

Engelbert Humperdinck - Please Release Me.

mzungu

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Although by her trying to insult the person, she's ironically insulting herself...

"You probably think this song is about you, don't you...."

of course the song is about him Carly, otherwise you wouldn't be singing about him and his vanity. If it wasn't about him then the lyrics would have to go...

"You're so vain, You probably think this song is about you, don't you....you're so vain..You probably think this song is about you, don't you, don't don't you... ... well it's not it's about the other guy nananananaaaaa".

Fair tough going to try and work that line into the melody, though!:D

sadie1502

Two out of three ain't bad mealoaf. There aint no way I'm ever gonna love you. But two out of three ain't bad. I suppose.

Olishi4

gossamer wrote: »

Engelbert Humperdinck - Please Release Me.

Ha so funny, my mam told me that once she had that song on repeat and my dad said to her "here is there something you're trying to tell me"

The Backwards Man

I've been around for you
I've been up and down for you
But I just can't get any relief
I've swallowed my pride for you
I've lived and lied for you
But you still make me feel like a thief

Still a class tune though

Outlaw Pete

"I'm so ugly but that's okay cause so are you" - Nirvana, Lithium.

And I shoulda thought of this one first really:

"You ain't a beauty but hey you're alright" - Thunder Road, The Boss.

learn_more

Olishi4 wrote: »

I like to think that when someone writes a song that they had someone in mind

Or course personal experiences come into play in song writing.

What your suggesting is that one wrote and sometimes sang the song specifically with that person in mind.

It that were the case it would be libellous.

mzungu

China Girl.

My little China girl
You shouldn't mess with me
I'll ruin everything you are

Bowie or Iggy? Both!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8IXx4tsus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrR-TFZmwuk

gossamer

Another one, Kris Kristofferson's When I Loved Her:

"Well, she didn't look as pretty as some others I have known
And she wasn't good at conversation when we were alone."

deandean

More Meatloaf, paradise by the dashboard light.
(As they are hard at it)
Will you love me till the end of time?
aah..
aah..
aah..
aah..
Let me sleep on it.

buried

Summer wind

Kenn Rodgers with Ruby.
"And if I could move I'd get my gun and put her in the ground
Oh Ruby don't take your love to town"

Olishi4

mzungu wrote: »

China Girl.



Bowie or Iggy? Both!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8IXx4tsus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrR-TFZmwuk

Can't post the link but there's an Iggy Pop song called "I'm sick of you"! Would depend on people's perception of the song of whether or not it fits into slightly insulting romantic but anyway a great song

endacl

learn_more wrote: »

Nothing is insulting unless it targets a specific person, not some notional person.

Really...?

twill

(Edit: can't make the link work either.)
https://youtu.be/VRqY4E-vRyo
Todd in the Shadows has a video on pretty much this topic. (Specifically a list of songs depicting mediocre romance.)

ahlookit

Damien Rice - Blowers Daughter

Last line flips the song on its head.

http://youtu.be/5YXVMCHG-Nk


edit: on mobile... Can't do YouTube link thingy properly...

Dolbert

"I don't want clever conversation
I never want to work that hard
I just want someone that I can talk to
I want you just the way you are"

Billy Joel strikes again!

bobbysands81

"I'm always going to love you" by the Dexy's. A work of art!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7F5QKCRtc

"I'm Always Going To Love You"

Oh baby I really love you, I really do now, Oh baby baby,
I got to say one thing (what's that?)
I want you (Oh alright) and for all time (Oh I see!) Yes
Come over here my dear I've got something to say (What's that?)
Do you know how much I care?
Do you know I'll always be here,
I'm always going to love you
(OK)
When I look at you baby, when I touch you (yessss, what?) oh it feels so good,
Put your lips to my face (alright) Let your sweet breath warm my face (mmm)
I'm always going to love you (I love you too!)awwww!(I'm always going to love you)
We're always going to.......
To be completely honest (yeah?)
I walked into this part without thinking (what do you mean?)
I wasn't thinking (about what?) I'm so confused, I'm so confused
(You just said to me that you loved me?)
I know I did (You said you loved me!)
I know I did but I think I'm going around the bend now we must end...
(WHAT!!??)
I'm sorry darling I don't think I can love you
(You're not sorry!)
I'm really sorry I don't know how to love you
(Kevin don't talk to me I don't even want to see you)
(Kevin don't look at me I don't even want to see you)
I understand I don't know what's the matter with me
Maybe I'm incapable of love? I dunno, no?
(Kevin don't talk to me I don't even want to see you)
(Kevin just Go Go GO!! I don't even want to see you)
(It's like as soon as you got me you didn't want me, I was just your next thing, now your off on some other thing,)
No
(I was like a challenge you just wanted to see if you could get me to try and win me over)
No it wasn't like that you were more than that, you meant an awful lot to me
I'm just mean
(You are!)
(Kevin don't look at me I don't even want to see you)
(Just Go......Just.....GO)
ok

irish coldplayer

"Those pretty faces always made you stand out in a crowd"
I want you back
Jackson 5

Or
Morrissey
"Youre the one for me Fatty"

Olishi4

Just like a woman - Bob Dylan

Bob has a knack for the slightly bordering on insulting way with words

Stealthfins

Gun's n Rose's

Used to love her.

Owen Paul

You're my favorite waste of time.

bobbysands81

Not insulting but honest...

Stiff Little Fingers - Touch and Go.

Looking back it's funny that we never lied
That night we met when were both alone
We knew at once that what we'd want was just that night
Knew it couldn't be forever
Cause we each told of another
And then found something all our own

We both agreed we felt the need that goes skin deep
We said up front that's all we'd want and so
We took the love that felt so good and had to be
Just a case of touch and go

When we'd got that usual block out of the way
We both relaxed, sat back and felt so sure
Saw eye to eye and looked each other in the face
Hours we talked with warmth and laughter
And we still could talk more after
In the dark up on the seventh floor

We both agreed we felt the need that goes skin deep
We said up front that's all we'd want and so
We took the love that felt so good and had to be
Just a case of touch and go

Some might joke I came and went
And snigger she's a whore
But there's two people know it meant much more

Looking back was not allowed that morning so
We stuck by what we'd said
Rose and left without regret
But for a moment it was touch and go

We both agreed we felt the need to touch and go
But oh, you know, it was touch and go

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-L2tNdjF7E

the evasion_kid

Dr.dre - bitches ain't ****

bobbysands81

Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen.

The screen door slams, Mary's dress waves
Like a vision she dances across the porch as the radio plays
Roy Orbison singing for the lonely
Hey, that's me and I want you only
Don't turn me home again, I just can't face myself alone again
Don't run back inside, darling, you know just what I'm here for
So you're scared and you're thinking that maybe we ain't that young anymore
Show a little faith, there's magic in the night
You ain't a beauty but, hey, you're alright
Oh, and that's alright with me

You can hide 'neath your covers and study your pain
Make crosses from your lovers, throw roses in the rain
Waste your summer praying in vain
For a savior to rise from these streets
Well now, I ain't no hero, that's understood
All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
With a chance to make it good somehow
Hey, what else can we do now?
Except roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair
Well, the night's busting open, these two lanes will take us anywhere
We got one last chance to make it real
To trade in these wings on some wheels
Climb in back, heaven's waiting on down the tracks
Oh oh, come take my hand
We're riding out tonight to case the promised land
Oh oh oh oh, Thunder Road
Oh, Thunder Road, oh, Thunder Road
Lying out there like a killer in the sun
Hey, I know it's late, we can make it if we run
Oh oh oh oh, Thunder Road
Sit tight, take hold, Thunder Road
Well, I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk
And my car's out back if you're ready to take that long walk
From your front porch to my front seat
The door's open but the ride ain't free
And I know you're lonely for words that I ain't spoken
But tonight we'll be free, all the promises'll be broken

bobbysands81

Saw Doctors

I have fallen for another she can make her own way home...

Summer wind

Justin Timberlake with Cry Me A River

"You don't have to say what you did
I already know, I found out from him"
You should've picked honesty
Then you may not have blown it
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn to cry
So cry me a river"

Fridge

Jazz standard "My Funny Valentine".

My funny valentine
Sweet comic valentine
You make me smile with my heart
Your looks are laughable
Unphotographable
Yet you're my favourite work of art

Is your figure less than greek
Is your mouth a little weak
When you open it to speak
Are you smart?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SGAcP7Zh6U

darlett

Olishi4

"Cause you'l never break, never break, never break, never break....this heart of stone" - The Rolling Stones

The Princess Bride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1e9LWBPHs

Brilliant song but wouldn't do much for your self esteem.

Won't you be my number two
Me and number one are through
There won't be too much to do
Just smile when I feel blue.

And there's not much left of me
What you get is what you see
Is it worth the energy
I leave it up to you

cml387

I was on my way home but I'm just phoning you to say I met some tart on the way and I've decided that I'm staying with her instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zugy2rkSM7g

msshono

Say Hello, Wave Goodbye: Soft Cell

Full of insults but the next lucky lady he's going to find is going to be "a nice little housewife" :rolleyes:

Say Your Number

This is very insulting and not at all romantic, but the lyrics are hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1krWMgUVqy8

everlast75

"We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off"

Not a word from your lips
You just took for granted that I want to skinny dip
A quick hit, that's your game
But I'm not a piece of meat, simulate my brain, no

The night is young, so are we
Let's just get to know each other slow and easily, oh, oh
Take my hand, let's hit the floor
Shake our bodies to the music
Maybe then you'll score, oh, oh

So come on baby, won't you show some class
Why'd you have to move so fast?

We don't have to take our clothes off
To have a good time, oh, no
We could dance and party all night
And drink some cherry wine, oh, oh

Just slow down if you want me
A man wants to be approached cool and romantically, oh, oh
I've got needs just like you
And if the conversation's good
Vibrations through and through, oh, oh

So come on baby, won't you show some class
Why'd you have to move so fast?

[2x]
We don't have to take our clothes off
To have a good time, no, oh
We could dance and party all night
And drink some cherry wine, oh, oh

[2x]
We don't have to take our clothes off
To have a good time, oh, oh
We could dance and party all night
And drink some cherry wine, oh, oh


'c'mon baby won't you show some class'

love it!

Olishi4

"Dont come around here no more" - have to say i love the video to this but i guess its romance when it's dead, still slightly insulting - Tom Petty

GeneralVanilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J626Qcd7Glo

bend your ass on over and touch your toes.
hold your breath, imma hold my nose.


its the subtle ambiguous digs that are the worst.

bodhrandude

"Don't know about your brain but you look alright."

Rainbow - All Night Long.

worded

NSFW

Possible winner here

Love song by Pete Pamf

Heard this live and it's inspired by his X girlfriend who was constantly late on date as far as I remember and perhaps treated him
Badly

The lyrics are available somewhere if you google the.


https://youtu.be/INoDb_RKs48

worded

Olishi4 wrote: »

"Dont come around here no more" - have to say i love the video to this but i guess its romance when it's dead, still slightly insulting - Tom Petty

His "mates" were using him for drugs at drug fuelled parties at his gaff.

That was a song for them and his dealers I think

Capt'n Midnight

I still can't get over some people's desire to be insulted.


Going out of your way to declare yourself a victim doesn't make you a victim. It doesn't mean you are entitled to sympathy or the moral high ground, actually it's the opposite since you are taking those from real victims.