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Vaccines and climtae change. Are scientists failing to communicate science properly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    To me it's scientifically incredible and statistically unlikely that any one vaccine/medicine is absolutely safe for everyone.

    I'm perfectly happy with the less warm and fuzzy descriptions of vaccine risks.
    Statistically likely that a miniscule number of people will suffer some something else coincidentally.
    Statistically likely that a miniscule number of people will suffer an actual side effect.

    If they just said "you'd be more likely to win the lotto every week for a year than suffer a side effect to established vaccines" it might work better than "it's absolutely safe, and even if it wasn't you can't prove it, shut up and take it"

    But by preventing your kids getting vaccinated you're putting them and society at orders of magnitude greater risk if you don't get them the vaccine rather than getting it. That's what should be said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Again though it's a case that no snowflake thinks it's responsible for the Avalanche. People can understand the dangers of antibiotic resistance, not getting vaccinations and climate change but they themselves think they couldn't possibly be the cause of any of that. Human's greed, even on a smal scale, often trumps their rationality no matter how much you try to educate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭tphase


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Actually the head scientist of a certain research facility in the UK doesn't accept that the climate is changing at all.
    do you have a source for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Don't really understand the point of the question to be honest. People can be aware that they are contributing to climate change and also do nothing about it.

    Well then that makes you a hypocrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Well then that makes you a hypocrite.

    That's quite a claim. Explain how.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    That's quite a claim. Explain how.

    Do I really have to explain it to you? Its fairly simple even self explanatory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    One of the issues is that ideas are put in place to try help mitigate it, and when those ideas are flawed and faulty, people use failed attempts (and indeed cynically flawed concepts) to lambast the -actual science-.

    Which, when you get down to it, is rather like taking a pill to cure your cancer and then claiming that the doctor made up your cancer so people could sell you pills that don't work.

    I'm sorry, but the cancer is still there, even if the pill doesn't work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Ah, never mind your Barry's vs Lyons jihadist style wars - you can't bate a dacent cup of clim-tae . And a few penguins to dunk into the cup.
    Apparently penguins don't like being dipped into hot clim-tae though. Makes them melt. But, as Father Fintan Stack once said, "I've had my fun and that's all that matters"


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