9/11 15th Anniversary....your memories, feelings, thoughts about that day 15 years on

AudreyHepburn

It's hard to believe it's 15 years since that awful day - the images from the day are as horrific now as they were when we watched them live.

What are your thoughts, feelings, memories of that day? Do you think the world is a different place today because of it?

My memories? Well I was in school at the time - Junior Cert Maths Class if I remember correctly. I remember a commotion in the hallway and a girl bursting into the classroom shouting about a plane crash in the USA. Of course nobody really understood the full extent of the situation at that point.

When I got home from school that evening my Mum had Sky News on and all you could see was thick black smoke billowing up from Manhattan - the towers had fallen by that stage. I remember asking her if it was a film she was watching - remember at school we were only getting patchy bits of information.

She explained to me what was happening and then Sky News showed the clip of the first plane hitting the tower. I remember thinking it looked like a toy plane, it just didn't seem real.

I was unable to concentrate on anything for the rest of the day, it all felt very surreal.

It's hard to believe 15 years have passed.

enzo roco

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Do you think the world is a different place today because of it?


It's hard to believe 15 years have passed.

Ffs.
Nope, exact same.

Ficheall

enzo roco wrote: »

Ffs.
Nope, exact same.

Airport security is worse.

CucaFace

enzo roco wrote: »

Ffs.
Nope, exact same.

Tell that to the innocent people of IRAQ....

enzo roco

CucaFace wrote: »

Tell that to the innocent people of IRAQ....

Sarcasm detector????

Wanderer78

CucaFace wrote:

Tell that to the innocent people of IRAQ....

And Afghanistan, Libya, Syria........

BoJack Horseman

I remember thinking: 'jet fuel can't melt steel beams?'........ and that's when I learned the truth.

I've been on the run ever since.

SEPT 23 1989

Fading

LordSutch

Was on my lunch break when the news broke on my car radio... 'A small plane/light aircraft is suspected of crashing into one of the twin towers' and I thought to myself chances are the pilot is dead! end of..

Then I got back to the office & took the lift up the 3rd floor 'my office' only to find the place empty! so I took the lift back down to reception where I found the whole building congreated in the main atrium watching a giant screen, as the Twin-Tower horror unfolded before our very eyes.

...cut to that evening and myself & the girlfriend were trying to take our minds off the days events, so we decided to go to the cinema to watch something less horific, only to find that the cinema was closed as a mark of respect to those who died in New York.

What a day.
Like a bad dream.

Omackeral

Whatever your thoughts and feelings are on the day, they'll change when you hear this. I only heard it for the first time a couple of years ago. It's a live call of one of the emergency calls from the South Tower. It's played alongside footage right up until the collapse, as the call is ongoing. It really shows the desperate situation people were in.

*THIS IS DISTURBING TO LISTEN TO, ESPECIALLY THE LAST FEW SECONDS*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppAeMWFCqC8

getzls

Wanderer78 wrote: »

CucaFace wrote:

Tell that to the innocent people of IRAQ....

And Afghanistan, Libya, Syria........

Who of course are being murdered every day by the Religion of Peace

AudreyHepburn

Omackeral wrote: »

Whatever your thoughts and feelings are on the day, they'll change when you hear this. I only heard it for the first time a couple of years ago. It's a live call of one of the emergency calls from the South Tower. It's played alongside footage right up until the collapse, as the call is ongoing. It really shows the desperate situation people were in.

*THIS IS DISTURBING TO LISTEN TO, ESPECIALLY THE LAST FEW SECONDS*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppAeMWFCqC8

Heartbreaking. It must have been hell on earth

eviltwin

It was one of the worst events in living memory but I feel it's time for those of us not personally affected to move on. The endless tv shows and other coverage every year is a bit much 15 years on.

Wanderer78

getzls wrote: »

Who of course are being murdered every day by the Religion of Peace

this is a lot more complicated than religion, american elites and co. need to be put into a box, before we all perish!

Tzardine

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but there has always been one thing that did not sit right with me.

Look at the footage from any plane crash / bombing / hijacking etc , there is always wreckage visible. Most often large pieces of fuselage or tail section.

Yet in the Pentagon incident there was not a single piece of wreckage at the site. A wide body plane does not vaporise upon impact.

Same situation with the plane that "crashed" in Pennsylvania.

It simply does not add up.

EndaHonesty

To me it will always be the 11th of the 9th...

mickdw

Tzardine wrote: »

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but there has always been one thing that did not sit right with me.

Look at the footage from any plane crash / bombing / hijacking etc , there is always wreckage visible. Most often large pieces of fuselage or tail section.

Yet in the Pentagon incident there was not a single piece of wreckage at the site. A wide body plane does not vaporise upon impact.

Same situation with the plane that "crashed" in Pennsylvania.

It simply does not add up.

And not a single video of the large passenger jet on approach to the most secure building in the world.

Burial.

Inside job. But not the first American stitch up job.

Omackeral

Burial. wrote: »

Inside job. But not the first American stitch up job.

Do you think they made it happen or let it happen?

Burial.

Omackeral wrote: »

Do you think they made it happen or let it happen?

Both

Omackeral

Can you imagine being on the 105th floor. One minute you're casually making a cup of coffee and then a minute later you're on the edge of a flaming window ledge deciding if you're gonna die by jumping or burning to death. Horrible.

Larbre34

Maintaining conspiracy theories since totally disproven are an insult to the dead and the bereaved.

In the wider scheme of things, worse events have happened before and since the Sept 2001 attacks, but it was a historical watershed moment. Re-running the same hackneyed docos on the telly EVERY year is flogging it more than needs be at this stage. Discreet remembrance by the bereaved and those involved in the recovery is all that should be happening at this stage. The world has more to be worried about.

Harry Palmr

Boredom

cena

My cousin worked in the towers. That day she got a call to come to her son's school.

Tzardine

Larbre34 wrote: »

Maintaining conspiracy theories since totally disproven are an insult to the dead and the bereaved.

I agree with your point.

But the Pentagon conspiracy theory has not actually been dis-proven.

No black boxes.
No wreckage
No CCTV released ( Consider the building in question)

And dont get me started on how the jets crashing into the towers caused enough heat to melt the building enough to the point it collapsed ..... yet they found the passport of the hijacker on the ground a few blocks away.

Seriously ?????

Capt'n Midnight

There is no question that the CIA was involved in 911. The one in Chile that doesn't get much attention because the US the instigators rather than the victims.

911 was a large statistical blip on the 20,308 Homicides and 30,622 Suicides and 101,537 deaths from all accidents. Life expectancy in the US actually went up in 2011. Not so much for the countries blamed. If you include increased mortality rates in all those countries there are claims for up to four million dead.


Am tired of the US playing the victim after what they did to a democracy back in 1973. And that after economic war before that.

Also tired of the US playing the victim after the outlash against the middle east which killed and destroyed so many lives. It's pretty much been 911 every week there if you take into account the smaller population.

Also tired of all the propaganda since they haven't done anything about Saudi where most of the hijackers came from. They didn't even ask the Bin-Laden family to stay around in case they could help with investigations.


Also tired of pointing out that six million people died in the Second Congo war and associated conflicts. But yeah let's go with 911 being the worst atrocity ever.

nullzero

I watched the plane crash into the second tower live on TV, watched the towers fall, just felt powerless really. A very strange day and indeed week afterwards. Only had it put into perspective by visiting ground zero a few years ago, impossible to imagine being there and caught up in the situation.

Samaris

http://www.cracked.com/blog/never-forget-all-good-things-that-happened-after-911_p1/?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=blog&wa_user4=feature_module

I thought this was an interesting take on it. There are things that should be remembered and taken from that day fifteen years ago. Mostly they've been left behind.

oh, and for the truthers;
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2278-i-was-professional-911-truther-and-i-gave-it-up.html

Liam McPoyle

eviltwin wrote: »

It was one of the worst events in living memory but I feel it's time for those of us not personally affected to move on. The endless tv shows and other coverage every year is a bit much 15 years on.

It was the single biggest terrorist attack in the history of the world.

It has had direct responsibility for hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent people and the displacement of millions, the ramifications are still being felt today.

Its IMO the single most biggest event in the world since the end of WW2.

Dyr

I remember on sky when all this was happening live that they pretty much stated that the Pennsylvania plane had been shot down

HensVassal

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

It's hard to believe it's 15 years since that awful day - the images from the day are as horrific now as they were when we watched them live.

What are your thoughts, feelings, memories of that day? Do you think the world is a different place today because of it?

My memories? Well I was in school at the time - Junior Cert Maths Class if I remember correctly. I remember a commotion in the hallway and a girl bursting into the classroom shouting about a plane crash in the USA. Of course nobody really understood the full extent of the situation at that point.

When I got home from school that evening my Mum had Sky News on and all you could see was thick black smoke billowing up from Manhattan - the towers had fallen by that stage. I remember asking her if it was a film she was watching - remember at school we were only getting patchy bits of information.

She explained to me what was happening and then Sky News showed the clip of the first plane hitting the tower. I remember thinking it looked like a toy plane, it just didn't seem real.

I was unable to concentrate on anything for the rest of the day, it all felt very surreal.

It's hard to believe 15 years have passed.

What do you think?
The psychopaths who run the US have used it to implement a militarized super-surveillance police-state in America and the prospect of eternal war abroad for profit.
The US Patriot Act actually written before 9/11 has now turned the country into an Orwellian dystopia where even 6 year olds in school can now be arrested and imprisoned for things as dastardly and sinister as farting in school or sending a love note to a classroom crush.
Place is fcuked up and getting worse.

Calibos

Oh I forgot, its that time of the year again where I get to refresh my list of CT loons and know to take every other post they make with a pince of salt.

weisses

Calibos wrote: »

Oh I forgot, its that time of the year again where I get to refresh my list of CT loons and know to take every other post they make with a pince of salt.

No need to ... You could just save a copy of the NIST report and look at it 24/7

HensVassal

getzls wrote: »

Who of course are being murdered every day by the Religion of Peace

Ah well that makes it OK to just murder them anyway for no reason and claim you are "helping" them then.

And how does one get murdered by a religion anyway?

HensVassal

eviltwin wrote: »

It was one of the worst events in living memory but I feel it's time for those of us not personally affected to move on. The endless tv shows and other coverage every year is a bit much 15 years on.

I would argue that what was done to the innocent countries of Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya and Somalia and Yermen in retaliation are events that are infinitely worse.

3000 people were killed on 9/11.
1.5 million were killed in Iraq. Are you saying 9/11 overshadows the horror and carnage of Iraq and Afghanistan that continues to this day?

Kermit.de.frog

Terrible and deeply uncomfortable day but i'm a little wary of the level of exceptionalism attached to the deaths due to this event at this stage.

Plenty of people dieing equal violent and needless deaths all over the world due to one thing or another.

HensVassal

Tzardine wrote: »

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but there has always been one thing that did not sit right with me.

Look at the footage from any plane crash / bombing / hijacking etc , there is always wreckage visible. Most often large pieces of fuselage or tail section.

Yet in the Pentagon incident there was not a single piece of wreckage at the site. A wide body plane does not vaporise upon impact.

Same situation with the plane that "crashed" in Pennsylvania.

It simply does not add up.

You're going to get called a tinfoiler despite stating the obvious.

HensVassal

Larbre34 wrote: »

Maintaining conspiracy theories since totally disproven are an insult to the dead and the bereaved.

In the wider scheme of things, worse events have happened before and since the Sept 2001 attacks, but it was a historical watershed moment. Re-running the same hackneyed docos on the telly EVERY year is flogging it more than needs be at this stage. Discreet remembrance by the bereaved and those involved in the recovery is all that should be happening at this stage. The world has more to be worried about.

It's disgusting and cowardly to try and shut people up by shaming them into not asking questions. Who do you think you are?
A lot of the families of the dead have many questions that aren't being answered. You want to lecture them into silence as well?

AudreyHepburn

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Terrible and deeply uncomfortable day but i'm a little wary of the level of exceptionalism attached to the deaths due to this event at this stage.

Plenty of people dieing equal violent and needless deaths all over the world due to one thing or another.

I think the way people react to 9/11 is due to the fact that we were forced to watch live as 3000 innocent people were murdered in the space of an hour. We were literally watching people die at the hands of mad men.

Of course terrible things happen all the time but this was on a scale never seen before.

I'm bit surprised at the reactions of some posters here tbh. Why shouldn't we remember those who died? Does the fact that other horrible things have happened since mean 9/11 should be played down or forgotten?

Tzardine

Tzardine wrote: »

I agree with your point.

But the Pentagon conspiracy theory has not actually been dis-proven.

No black boxes.
No wreckage
No CCTV released ( Consider the building in question)

And dont get me started on how the jets crashing into the towers caused enough heat to melt the building enough to the point it collapsed ..... yet they found the passport of the hijacker on the ground a few blocks away.

Seriously ?????

CCTV footage WAS released at the time showing the aircraft hitting the building!
In fact several different angles were shown.

Why are there conspiracy theories about this event, there are many of us who saw the whole thing play out on live TV.

Tzardine

Deleted User wrote: »

CCTV footage WAS released at the time showing the aircraft hitting the building!
In fact several different angles were shown.

Why are there conspiracy theories about this event, there are many of us who saw the whole thing play out on live TV.

Sorry but that is incorrect.

There is nothing showing a plane hitting the building.

Just a crappy 2fps car park camera showing a flash and a fireball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBasgFop40I

Stealthfins

Tzardine wrote:

There is nothing showing a plane hitting the building.

Tzardine wrote:

Just a crappy 2fps car park camera showing a flash and a fireball.

Tzardine wrote:

Sorry but that is incorrect.

If that's your opinion you're entitled to it.

But maybe your research isn't as informative as most.

Tzardine

Tzardine wrote: »

Sorry but that is incorrect.

There is nothing showing a plane hitting the building.

Just a crappy 2fps car park camera showing a flash and a fireball.

This one you mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg

You do see a plane in one frame.

HS3

Larbre34 wrote: »

Maintaining conspiracy theories since totally disproven are an insult to the dead and the bereaved.

In the wider scheme of things, worse events have happened before and since the Sept 2001 attacks, but it was a historical watershed moment. Re-running the same hackneyed docos on the telly EVERY year is flogging it more than needs be at this stage. Discreet remembrance by the bereaved and those involved in the recovery is all that should be happening at this stage. The world has more to be worried about.

I've seen/heard this a lot over the years. I think it's more disgusting and disrespectful to try and shut people up by laying on guilt trips. Asking questions is how we get to the truth and accepting what you're told without reservation is more of offensive. The victims and the bereaved deserve to know what and why it happened. I don't think for one second we've been told the truth. Everything that unfolded after is enough to make you wonder. I don't see how asking questions and delving deeper is disrespectful to anyone, particularly if it some day brings put the truth.

Tzardine

Deleted User wrote: »

This one you mean.

Yes, that is the only footage ever released.

If you see a plane in that frame, with respect, you need to go to specsavers

Harvey Normal

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I think the way people react to 9/11 is due to the fact that we were forced to watch live as 3000 innocent people were murdered in the space of an hour. We were literally watching people die at the hands of mad men.

Of course terrible things happen all the time but this was on a scale never seen before.

I'm bit surprised at the reactions of some posters here tbh. Why shouldn't we remember those who died? Does the fact that other horrible things have happened since mean 9/11 should be played down or forgotten?

Give over. Never seen before? You think 3000 is the maximum number of civilians ever killed anywhere on one day?

The problem with caring about 9/11 beyond a certain time limit is not just that it trivialises other subsequent deaths but that the ideology of continuous war since has killed more, and destabilised both the Middle East and Europe.

Tzardine

Stealthfins wrote: »

If that's your opinion you're entitled to it.

But maybe your research isn't as informative as most.

I am not a 'truther'. I have not done any research.

Maybe it was a plane that hit, maybe it was a laser from a UFO . I dunno.

I just asked the question, if it was a plane, explain why there is no wreckage. And why is there no better footage available. Its the bloody Pentagon.

Harvey Normal

Tzardine wrote: »

Yes, that is the only footage ever released.

If you see a plane in that frame, with respect, you need to go to specsavers

I've never seen that before actually.

Definitely there's no obvious plane but the frame-rate is one per second. And it was travelling fast.

Edit: there's something on the right on the 25th frame/second. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? A car? Hard to tell.

Tzardine

Tzardine wrote: »

Yes, that is the only footage ever released.

If you see a plane in that frame, with respect, you need to go to specsavers

It is the fact that it is only a slow video that gives conspiracy theorists a gap to fill in with all the speculation.

I ask you "where did the disappeared aircraft go?"
Four aeroplanes were hijacked each containing about 100 passengers, all four crashed, one was prevented from reaching its intended target by passengers who overcame the hijackers but were unable to save the plane. The others crashed into their intended targets.

Harvey Normal

Harvey Normal wrote: »

I never saw that before actually. Definitely there's no obvious plane but the frame-rate is one per second. And it was travelling fast.

All you see is a white blur one frame before impact, with respect to the CCTV system, that's as good as it gets.

It's worth remembering that the design of the pentagon limited the damage to just one small section that they had completely reconstructed and occupied before the first anniversary of the attack.

Tzardine

Deleted User wrote: »

I ask you "where did the disappeared aircraft go?"

I have no idea.

But seriously , be objective for a second and ask the question.

A plane crashes into a building. There is not a shred of wreckage.

No metal pieces
No remains of the engines
No seats
No bodies
No luggage

Why is this so ?