Students sh#tting on my doorstep

Ericdravancrow

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ive-to-clean-up-vomit-blood-and-sht-from-outside-my-gate-irish-mum-describes-week-of-hell-35035619.html
I honestly think this is hyped up, students are loud and messy, but ****ting on a door step, really.
Another thing is "Watergate" wouldn't be known for having upstanding Citizens it's self, more than likely some junkie relieved themselves at her door step.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Looks pretty grim, thats the big drawback with a student town I suppose. I'd also note that the Indo actually printed "my son seen it", so seem to have completely abandoned any semblance of professional journalism.

Tin Roofer

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Looks pretty grim, thats the big drawback with a student town I suppose. I'd also note that the Indo actually printed "my son seen it", so seem to have completely abandoned any semblance of professional journalism.

It is contained in a quote. Should they have misquoted? Admittedly it is missing the usual [sic] though.

The students are revolting.

Ericdravancrow

Tin Roofer wrote: »

It is contained in a quote. Should they have misquoted? Admittedly it is missing the usual [sic] though.

The students are revolting.

Ya...bring back scumbags and drug dealers, they were so much quieter.

Those apartments should have been knocked down in the early '90s not renovated... stupid city council again.

Noveight

Unfortunately for her, it's not going to change any time soon.

vkid

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

seem to have completely abandoned any semblance of professional journalism.

Most of the irish papers have. The indos website in particular is a tabloid, nothing more. Don't think there is one decent daily broadsheet now. The irish Times is gone to pot and the Examiner is like the Cork Community news. Maybe the irish version of the times

Special Circumstances

vkid wrote: »

Most of the irish papers have. The indos website in particular is a tabloid, nothing more. Don't think there is one decent daily broadsheet now. The irish Times is gone to pot and the Examiner is like the Cork Community news. Maybe the irish version of the times

Click bait and regurgitation mostly.

celligraphy

As much as I feel bad for the woman and the neighbours putting up with the noise and crap , it's not gonna stop anytime soon and unfortunately if they still have issues with it they 'll have to move.

cup of tea

The Limerick Post headline is a small bit sensationalist to say the least. I have a picture in my head of them walking down the streets with knee high wellingtons while buckets full of toilet matter are thrown onto the streets like medieval times.
''Limerick city residents left to walk through blood and human waste''

Cherrycoke

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

Another thing is "Watergate" wouldn't be known for having upstanding Citizens it's self,

Having grown up in this area for most of my life, I find this comment incredibly offensive. I've lived around the most friendly, hard working people there, and a statement like that is completely ignorant.

What makes the people living there not "upstanding citizens" to you?

Silentcorner

Cherrycoke wrote: »

Having grown up in this area for most of my life, I find this comment incredibly offensive. I've lived around the most friendly, hard working people there, and a statement like that is completely ignorant.

What makes the people living there not "upstanding citizens" to you?

I have to say, I never really got the reputation the Watergate flats seems to have...the vast majority of dwellings are well kept, I am sure there are exceptions but not enough to justify the nonsense you have correctly pointed out...

I remember when Flan Costello announced plans to open a hostel in the old Molineux's premises, most posters on here were in fear for the potential guests...I couldn't fathom why...I felt sorry for the residents but I didn't want to contribute to that thread...never in my life, have I felt intimidated in this area and I pass through it day and night...the area at night is a complete mess with all the pubs/niteclubs alright...but it is not the local residence that are the problem!!!! In the very same way Irish people can be completely ignorant toward Limerick, we are well capable of being ignorant toward our own areas!!!

CatFromHue

Is Watergate in town? I'm not familair with it.

If it is they should be petitioning the council or the nite clubs to put in temporary toilets, PortaLoos or those urinals you see at music festivals, that might cut down on the on street toilet going.

Also if there's glass everywhere the niteclubs should be under more pressure not to let people bring glass outside.

Silentcorner

CatFromHue wrote: »

Is Watergate in town? I'm not familair with it.

If it is they should be petitioning the council or the nite clubs to put in temporary toilets, PortaLoos or those urinals you see at music festivals, that might cut down on the on street toilet going.

Also if there's glass everywhere the niteclubs should be under more pressure not to let people bring glass outside.

Two very good ideas there...the amount of glass in that public car park across from the old Instore shop is a disgrace...most of all you need a heavy garda presence, where are the Public Order Units?....these crowds wouldn't be tolerated anywhere else in the city centre it shouldn't be tolerated here either...the policy of allowing pubs/niteclubs/fast food joints in one small area of the city is highly questionable also....being honest the fact that at the same age I would of being doing the same as most of these young ones doesn't make it right, we have a problem with alcohol and we have no alcohol policing policy...it makes for a messy atmosphere....

The Watergate area is behind that old Instore shop, it is directly across the road from the Milk Market...

Ericdravancrow

Cherrycoke wrote: »

Having grown up in this area for most of my life, I find this comment incredibly offensive. I've lived around the most friendly, hard working people there, and a statement like that is completely ignorant.

What makes the people living there not "upstanding citizens" to you?

You're entitled to your opinion, and so am I.
I know Limerick very well, and my opinion is it is a kip of a place, it should be flattened.

bigpink

All the pubs clubs takeaways in the area should be made pay for extra clean up and security

bigpink

Its the bottles from pre drinking the problem.
That whole area is a mess

ongarboy

If that is where all the clubs and pubs (Nancys/Ikon/Smyths etc) are located, then surely it's not just students causing the after hours commotion. Most people who frequent these venues would be older than typical students so I don't understand how they can single out the main offenders as being students.

Cherrycoke

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

You're entitled to your opinion, and so am I.
I know Limerick very well, and my opinion is it is a kip of a place, it should be flattened.

Regardless of what you think of the area itself, I'm sure the people who live there are no better or worse than the people in your own area.

Treepole

I worked near the flats for a year. Windows put in every weekend. Cars along the street constantly being broken into. St Michaels grave yard would be like oxegen on a sunny evening with lads drinks cans, smoking weed and causing trouble. And it wasn't students doing it.

tonyheaney

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ive-to-clean-up-vomit-blood-and-sht-from-outside-my-gate-irish-mum-describes-week-of-hell-35035619.html
I honestly think this is hyped up, students are loud and messy, but ****ting on a door step, really.
Another thing is "Watergate" wouldn't be known for having upstanding Citizens it's self, more than likely some junkie relieved themselves at her door step.

1. How dare you cast the people of watergate in that light with out having proof to back that up

2. would you like some **** sent via paypal? there was plenty stown about!!

3. These are council owned flats, I suppose you have your own home bought and paid for?

4. I would hazard a guess and say you don't have any children and if you do did they get a full 8-hour sleep? Because most of the kids here in watergate were lucky if the got 3!!!

tonyheaney

@MOD my link was closed because it was deemed unnecessary However the Limerick Leader seems to think it important to publish the exact story your mod closed down. S I ask you why is this up???

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057645573

tonyheaney

ongarboy wrote: »

If that is where all the clubs and pubs (Nancys/Ikon/Smyths etc) are located, then surely it's not just students causing the after hours commotion. Most people who frequent these venues would be older than typical students so I don't understand how they can single out the main offenders as being students.

It was freshers and when you sit at your window and see scantily clad teens you get a notion of who and what they are

zulutango

Tin Roofer wrote:

The students are revolting.

It's like Paris in '68 all over again.

bennyl10

tonyheaney wrote: »

1. How dare you cast the people of watergate in that light with out having proof to back that up

2. would you like some **** sent via paypal? there was plenty stown about!!

3. These are council owned flats, I suppose you have your own home bought and paid for?

4. I would hazard a guess and say you don't have any children and if you do did they get a full 8-hour sleep? Because most of the kids here in watergate were lucky if the got 3!!!

Well to blame students is just as bad as blaming residents.. But you've zero issue with doing that?

Watergate had issues and people doing ****e all throughout the year, picking the students because they're an easy target is pathetic..

Breaking news: people drink at nightclubs! Shocker! Students aren't around Saturdays(for the most part) and the same ****e takes place.. But hey it's students at fault!!

Its not ideal scenario for a family.. Get the family out then?.. Be it apply for new housing or went elsewhere..

Not just stop drinking and the students!!

Ericdravancrow

This area has had pubs and nightclub for years, why did she move in there?

brianregan09

cup of tea wrote: »

The Limerick Post headline is a small bit sensationalist to say the least. I have a picture in my head of them walking down the streets with knee high wellingtons while buckets full of toilet matter are thrown onto the streets like medieval times.
''Limerick city residents left to walk through blood and human waste''

Someone buy them a pair of shoes for god sake

gctest50

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

...............

Another thing is "Watergate" wouldn't be known for having upstanding Citizens it's self, more than likely some junkie relieved themselves at her door step.

Gotta horse outside,

F***er is nine foot high

tonyheaney

bennyl10 wrote: »

Well to blame students is just as bad as blaming residents.. But you've zero issue with doing that?

Watergate had issues and people doing ****e all throughout the year, picking the students because they're an easy target is pathetic..

Breaking news: people drink at nightclubs! Shocker! Students aren't around Saturdays(for the most part) and the same ****e takes place.. But hey it's students at fault!!

Its not ideal scenario for a family.. Get the family out then?.. Be it apply for new housing or went elsewhere..

Not just stop drinking and the students!!

I am a student

It was freshers night so it was that night so included students

council housing been there since 1960s why should they move?

you live in a coco house? its not that easy to just up and go

tonyheaney

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

This area has had pubs and nightclub for years, why did she move in there?

houses came before the pubs and clubs 1960s

tonyheaney

brianregan09 wrote: »

Someone buy them a pair of shoes for god sake

LOL funny :rolleyes:

Tin Roofer

tonyheaney wrote: »

I am a student

It was freshers night so it was that night so included students

council housing been there since 1960s why should they move?

you live in a coco house? its not that easy to just up and go

I'd rather have a bowl of coco pops. All sing along.

Ericdravancrow

tonyheaney wrote: »

I am a student

It was freshers night so it was that night so included students

council housing been there since 1960s why should they move?

you live in a coco house? its not that easy to just up and go

But she didn't live there before the night clubs and pubs...and it is one of the scummiest areas in the inner city..flatten it.

Cherrycoke

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

But she didn't live there before the night clubs and pubs...and it is one of the scummiest areas in the inner city..flatten it.

She's living there 30+ years. Definitely long before any of the pubs/
clubs/takeaways opened in the surrounding areas. :rolleyes:

For years all that was in the area was Docs nightclub, and the Office bar. They were noisy at the weekends, but nothing in comparison to that video clip.

Why should she have to leave? An area that she's grown up in, probably knows all of her neighbours, and is happy to raise her kids in the same way she was raised. Yet some people are saying that she should leave, because others don't know how to behave themselves?

Even if she did want to leave, as others here have mentioned, it's not as simple as popping down to the town hall and swapping a set of keys.

Ericdravancrow

+30yrs...bull

OfTheMarsWongs

I don't see why the housing in Watergate being council or not is even being brought up in this thread. It's not relevant.

I'm nearly 100% sure I saw a similar article (or articles) 'back in the day' re The Lodge and Elm Park/Millford Grange.

Ericdravancrow

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

I don't see why the housing in Watergate being council or not is even being brought up in this thread. It's not relevant.

I'm nearly 100% sure I saw a similar article (or articles) 'back in the day' re The Lodge and Elm Park/Millford Grange.

Because Watergate is worse than some pissed students, that women on the news article should look to her own location issues before giving out about students.

OfTheMarsWongs

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

Because Watergate is worse than some pissed students, that women on the news article should look to her own location issues before giving out about students.

The lady is perfectly entitled to complain about this behaviour whether it was someone who lives on her block or was just passing through the area.

Can you give an example of a recent Watergate local issue?

Also, re your first post. Someone falling out of a night club drunk, could have an addiction to alcohol. That's the definition of a junkie.

Ericdravancrow

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

The lady is perfectly entitled to complain about this behaviour whether it was someone who lives on her block or was just passing through the area.

Can you give an example of a recent Watergate local issue?

Also, re your first post. Someone falling out of a night club drunk, could have an addiction to alcohol. That's the definition of a junkie.

She moved into an area known for pubs/nightclubs and now wants it to stop.. she's an idiot for that.
She'll be complaining about the market outside her door on a Saturday next.

It's ongoing, car break in's, damage to vehicles, attempted burglaries, general knackerism.

Drunk students = junkies??? Really.

A_Sober_Paddy

Cherrycoke wrote: »

Having grown up in this area for most of my life, I find this comment incredibly offensive. I've lived around the most friendly, hard working people there, and a statement like that is completely ignorant.

What makes the people living there not "upstanding citizens" to you?

Well I work in the area and a large number of the shoplifter can be seen running into apartments in the Watergate development

Ericdravancrow

It's a well known fact, a lot of trouble in town is caused by people who then disappear into Watergate.

OfTheMarsWongs

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

She moved into an area known for pubs/nightclubs and now wants it to stop.. she's an idiot for that.
She'll be complaining about the market outside her door on a Saturday next.

It's ongoing, car break in's, damage to vehicles, attempted burglaries, general knackerism.

Drunk students = junkies??? Really.

You seem to be of the impression that to qualify as a junkie you must be unemployed and living in council housing. Not all addicts look like cartoon hobos.

tonyheaney

Tin Roofer wrote: »

I'd rather have a bowl of coco pops. All sing along.

Crunchy Nut Fan Myself

tonyheaney

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

Because Watergate is worse than some pissed students, that women on the news article should look to her own location issues before giving out about students.

Now thers a thought swapping keys and all swap the water gate for plassy village let the student move in to WG

Mc Love

tonyheaney wrote: »

Now thers a thought swapping keys and all swap the water gate for plassy village let the student move in to WG

That wouldnt be too bad an idea

Ericdravancrow

There are plans to integrate some college courses and student living into the Opera centre development, which will bring a newer and younger population into this area... she'll be very busy complaining to everyone that'll listen...(by then, not many)
I'd say most people prefer students to the like of what's in coming out of Watergate.

OfTheMarsWongs

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

There are plans to integrate some college courses and student living into the Opera centre development, which will bring a newer and younger population into this area... she'll be very busy complaining to everyone that'll listen...(by then, not many)
I'd say most people prefer students to the like of what's in coming out of Watergate.

Not sure why you are tarring every Watergate resident with the same brush. Have you had a bad experience in the area? You've provided no Garda/crime stats to back up your assertions.

bennyl10

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

Not sure why you are tarring every Watergate resident with the same brush. Have you had a bad experience in the area? You've provided no Garda/crime stats to back up your assertions.

All students were tarred, why not residents?

Parchment

cup of tea wrote: »

The Limerick Post headline is a small bit sensationalist to say the least. I have a picture in my head of them walking down the streets with knee high wellingtons while buckets full of toilet matter are thrown onto the streets like medieval times.
''Limerick city residents left to walk through blood and human waste''

I actually just burst out laughing - thanks for the laugh, i needed it!

panda100

Parchment wrote: »

I actually just burst out laughing - thanks for the laugh, i needed it!

Sensationalist reporting by the Limerick Leader??? Never :pac:

Cherrycoke

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

+30yrs...bull

Why is this bull? You do realise that if someone is over the age of 30 and has lived in a area all their lives, that this equates to them living there for 30+ years? It's quite simple really

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Well I work in the area and a large number of the shoplifter can be seen running into apartments in the Watergate development

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

It's a well known fact, a lot of trouble in town is caused by people who then disappear into Watergate.

So if a shoplifter/trouble maker runs into an area, then that means that they're definitely from that area? It couldn't possibly be that they're scum from any other part of town, and that's the nearest residential area for them to hide?

steveon

Ericdravancrow wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ive-to-clean-up-vomit-blood-and-sht-from-outside-my-gate-irish-mum-describes-week-of-hell-35035619.html
I honestly think this is hyped up, students are loud and messy, but ****ting on a door step, really.
Another thing is "Watergate" wouldn't be known for having upstanding Citizens it's self, more than likely some junkie relieved themselves at her door step.

I would suggest you visit these areas late at nite and you will actually see that everything that Christina has stated is happening there is actually happening. It also happens every single yr In the City Campus estate in Edward street which i lived beside peacefully in a small cul de sac until the campus was built and everyone involved wiped their hands of the issue.

Outside all those niteclubs at nite is a danger and hardly ever policed. The niteclubs should all have staggered closing times and Student found causing trouble should be sent back to their home citys on a 1 strike basis as it is a joke what they get upto on their first experience away from home