Is this the worse video game generation ever?

deadybai

Does anyone else think that the eight generation of video games is the worst?m

Now I am not a hardcore gamer by any means so I am genuinely asking what are peoples opinions of this generation.

In saying that I had over around 60 games for the PS3 that bought from 07-13
. Most of these games I bought around 08-09. Compare that to my Ps4 from which I have had since last Christmas and I have 5 games. One fifa, GOW 3, The Last of US, Uncharted collection, Uncharted 4 and Rayman Legends. So really the only actual PS4 exclusive I have is a game which made its name on the PS3.

As a casual gamer I have a look now and to see what games due to come out and I see that a remastered version of an old game is on everyones lips. I can't be the only one who doesnt want to buy a game that they have already played right?

Like its either buy a remastered game or buy a franchise game like COD. Then when you see something that looks brilliant and original like No Mans Sky, the game ends up being sh!te. Even once great games like Batman and Battlefront have turned out sh!te.

Theres just nothing original anymore. Like I remember buying COD4 and was astonished as I had never really played a game like that before.
I don't want Halo 5 or 6, I want a new trend setter to replace halo.

what are everyones thoughts I this?

nix

deadybai wrote: »

Like I remember buying COD4 and was astonished as I had never really played a game like that before.

Tell me about it, total shite eh?

I myself have been playing the likes of GTAV, Phantom pain, bloodborne, ds3, Witcher 3, arkham knight, Uncharted 4, Doom, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, some of the above arguably the best games ever, some ive only started to dent and alot more games on the horizon ill get around to in a year or two..

Then you have overwatch which millions will be playing for years to come

So eh, WTF you talkin bout brah??

:p:p

J_E

Console gaming has consistently failed this gen to deliver and tripped over itself over attempts to integrate online experiences in a closed environment. PC gaming has never been better. The Xbox One has not even come close to the experience of Xbox 360, and for good reason - it's clunky and so heavily based on online experiences.

ERG89

Too many remakes but I have bought a few so can't complain. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 & Until Dawn, Arkham Knight was probably my biggest disappointment since Fable 3. Fallout 4 & MGS 5 were let downs imo. Didn't buy most ubisoft games but Mirrors Edge, Watch Dogs & The Division go on the meh pile.

dreamers75

They are much better now from mega games to tiny indie games, older people just dont have as much free time so end out only playing the games you mentioned above.

Grumpypants

Games have never been better, more varied, and more accessable in the history of gaming.


This ridiculously large list is just for 2016 and doesnt even have mobile games on it. There is more than enough there to keep everyone of all interests entertained.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/11/13/2016-video-game-release-schedule.aspx

Captain Chaos

It's not over yet but not a great start compared to gen 7. Gen 8 is just getting a refresh, I feel the real gen 8 is only starting from now with 4k gaming becoming more mainstream.

I mentioned something along the lines of the OP in the news thread recently. PC gaming is PC gaming doesn't factor in here, it will always have a wider and more diverse selection. This gen on consoles has been very poor.

The jist of my ire re: this gen is volume of releases in terms of not only AAA but BBB etc. on 360 I was playing a fair few games a month plus download only ones. Now i'm surviving on 90% indie/download only ones. This isn;t a bad thing in terms of diversity in what I'm playing and there have been some crackers this year like Gone Hone and Hyper Light Drifter etc but they don't have the meat or substance of a AAA game that you play for a few weeks. They last mere days for me. I know I'm an exception in terms of the amount I play

Basically I see this gen echoing hollywood in that there are few if any risks taken anymore on new IP and an reliance of remakes remasters and sequels. You can take those or leave them of course , but if you leave them what are we left with ? Deus EX is the 1st game I went to a shop to buy in nearly 6 months , I like to buy my game on disc still, last gen I'd be in a shop once a week coming out with something I was willing to take a chance on outside of the big releases but the times they are a changing for consoles a lot of the small guys who would have produced those games went under and the big publishers aren't taking chances on that stuff. I'm just glad the the upswing is that we are seeing a big increase in quality PC indie titles ported over to consoles.

EDIT: The point on multiplayer / Online focus is a good one. It's once of the reasons I'm not playing as many new games as I don;t like competitive multi player games generally.

ShadowHearth

Back in the day there were good games and complete ****. These days we have plenty of good games and a lot of **** too.

SeantheMan

nix wrote: »

Tell me about it, total shite eh?

I myself have been playing the likes of GTAV, Phantom pain, bloodborne, ds3, Witcher 3, arkham knight, Uncharted 4, Doom, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, some of the above arguably the best games ever, some ive only started to dent and alot more games on the horizon ill get around to in a year or two..

Then you have overwatch which millions will be playing for years to come

So eh, WTF you talkin bout brah??

:p:p

Half of them came out on the previous console generation, and I don't know how you define PC generations.


I assume you mean 'Console Generation' ? ...otherwise can you clarify what a games generation is ?

johnny_ultimate

Given how much of a cluster**** 2016 has been - see: the news - it is some minor relief that it has been an absolutely extraordinary year for videogames. I actually can't remember having experienced such a bunch of remarkable, interesting and beautiful games in such a short space of time.

Granted, there's been a lot of games that have particularly suited my interests and taste, and I've made a reasonably active effort to filter out as much of the AAA noise as I can (doing the same with Hollywood blockbusters has been particularly liberating). But I've played all manner of brilliant titles this year, and indie titles have been flourishing.

I lost dozens of hours to The Witness - a masterpiece of following gameplay idea through to its various conclusions; taking place in a world that elicits a genuine sense of wonder, beauty and discovery; and a work that reveals fascinating thematic nuances the further you dive in. Inside was a revelation, with a nearly unparalleled level of artistic confidence. Kentucky Route Zero: Act IV brought an extraordinary series to new heights. Stephen's Sausage Roll is a game of truly ingenious puzzle design, constantly challenging and subverting the player's understanding of a fairly basic rule set. Quadrilateral Cowboy is a predictably accomplished piece of properly great storytelling and an imaginative lo-fi heist puzzler on top of that. Hyper Light Drifter is the best kind of retro homage - one that draws inspiration from the past but isn't constrained by it, instead emerging triumphantly as its own thing entirely.

That quality games like Firewatch, Obduction, No Man's Sky (I'll absolutely admit I'm swimming against consensus with that one), Zero Time Dilemma, 1979 Revolution and Superhot fall down 'the list' somewhat is less a fault of theirs and more simply their existence in a year where quality abounds. That's not even going into the games I simply haven't gotten to play yet - from Oxenfree to Samorost 3 and a whole lot in between.

Hell, even having tried to avoid all but a few particularly noteworthy blockbusters there's still been some positive noises from the 'big guys' this year. Xcom 2 and Uncharted 4 are welcome advancements on their predecessors. While I'm not as big a fan of Doom as others it's still a good, solid and fun shooter - although my FPS allegiances for the year mostly lie with Overwatch. The utterly engrossing Dark Souls 3 wasn't Bloodborne, but it was only 'underwhelming' by From's remarkably high standards (a game let down only by familiarity, despite being a genuine improvement on earlier masterpieces on many fronts). And hey, we have a Team Ico game left to go :cool:

Having built a PC around 18 months ago, no doubt my habits have adjusted towards the space particularly when there's cross-platform options. There's a definite slow trickle of exclusives, although IMO already enough interesting ones to justify my PS4 (Resogun, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, and there's not a chance I'm missing The Last Guardian / Persona 5 even if they turn out disappointing). I appreciate the increasing PC support for sure, and admire Microsoft's moves in that direction greatly (although hopefully less crappy Windows Store, plz). But obviously given the ease and lower cost of entry with consoles I'm also happy that those who don't want to dive down the PC rabbit hole are still served well - no doubt whatsoever a quick glance through either the Xbox or PS stores will deliver a steady stream of great games. I think any predominantly console gamer is spoiled for choice.

TL;DR - It's a really exciting time to play video games, as designers grow more confident and prove themselves more willing to challenge themselves. Even if you are disappointed with the AAA scene, there's more than enough great games of all sorts being made to suit pretty much any taste

Kylo Ren

No. Bloodborne came out.

nix

SeantheMan wrote: »

Half of them came out on the previous console generation, and I don't know how you define PC generations.


I assume you mean 'Console Generation' ? ...otherwise can you clarify what a games generation is ?

What? they were all on ps4? or does them coming out on ps3 also make it a different generation? I'm confused :P

SeantheMan

nix wrote: »

What? they were all on ps4? or does them coming out on ps3 also make it a different generation? I'm confused :P

I would consider the lowest console they came out on 'the generation' for that game.

If something is for PS4 that couldn't run on PS3, then I wouldn't consider it this generation's game.

Links234

Honestly? It's terrific! Even just this year, we've had Hyper Light Drifter, Salt & Sanctuary, Steamworld Heist, Momodora: Reverie Under Moonlight, and a little something called Overwatch. That's only just what I've played, still got the new Deus Ex, Dishonored, Dark Souls to play, not to mention Nioh if it releases on PC. Lets cross our fingers, shall we?

764dak

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Given how much of a cluster**** 2016 has been - see: the news - it is some minor relief that it has been an absolutely extraordinary year for videogames. I actually can't remember having experienced such a bunch of remarkable, interesting and beautiful games in such a short space of time.

Granted, there's been a lot of games that have particularly suited my interests and taste, and I've made a reasonably active effort to filter out as much of the AAA noise as I can (doing the same with Hollywood blockbusters has been particularly liberating). But I've played all manner of brilliant titles this year, and indie titles have been flourishing.

I lost dozens of hours to The Witness - a masterpiece of following gameplay idea through to its various conclusions; taking place in a world that elicits a genuine sense of wonder, beauty and discovery; and a work that reveals fascinating thematic nuances the further you dive in. Inside was a revelation, with a nearly unparalleled level of artistic confidence. Kentucky Route Zero: Act IV brought an extraordinary series to new heights. Stephen's Sausage Roll is a game of truly ingenious puzzle design, constantly challenging and subverting the player's understanding of a fairly basic rule set. Quadrilateral Cowboy is a predictably accomplished piece of properly great storytelling and an imaginative lo-fi heist puzzler on top of that. Hyper Light Drifter is the best kind of retro homage - one that draws inspiration from the past but isn't constrained by it, instead emerging triumphantly as its own thing entirely.

That quality games like Firewatch, Obduction, No Man's Sky (I'll absolutely admit I'm swimming against consensus with that one), Zero Time Dilemma, 1979 Revolution and Superhot fall down 'the list' somewhat is less a fault of theirs and more simply their existence in a year where quality abounds. That's not even going into the games I simply haven't gotten to play yet - from Oxenfree to Samorost 3 and a whole lot in between.

Hell, even having tried to avoid all but a few particularly noteworthy blockbusters there's still been some positive noises from the 'big guys' this year. Xcom 2 and Uncharted 4 are welcome advancements on their predecessors. While I'm not as big a fan of Doom as others it's still a good, solid and fun shooter - although my FPS allegiances for the year mostly lie with Overwatch. The utterly engrossing Dark Souls 3 wasn't Bloodborne, but it was only 'underwhelming' by From's remarkably high standards (a game let down only by familiarity, despite being a genuine improvement on earlier masterpieces on many fronts). And hey, we have a Team Ico game left to go :cool:

Having built a PC around 18 months ago, no doubt my habits have adjusted towards the space particularly when there's cross-platform options. There's a definite slow trickle of exclusives, although IMO already enough interesting ones to justify my PS4 (Resogun, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, and there's not a chance I'm missing The Last Guardian / Persona 5 even if they turn out disappointing). I appreciate the increasing PC support for sure, and admire Microsoft's moves in that direction greatly (although hopefully less crappy Windows Store, plz). But obviously given the ease and lower cost of entry with consoles I'm also happy that those who don't want to dive down the PC rabbit hole are still served well - no doubt whatsoever a quick glance through either the Xbox or PS stores will deliver a steady stream of great games. I think any predominantly console gamer is spoiled for choice.

TL;DR - It's a really exciting time to play video games, as designers grow more confident and prove themselves more willing to challenge themselves. Even if you are disappointed with the AAA scene, there's more than enough great games of all sorts being made to suit pretty much any taste

Oh? I'm pretty sure your console can't play Sonic Dash, Candy Crush, Tekken Card Tournament, Endless Skater, and Dungeon Hunter 5.

Kiith

Gaming is in a great place at the moment. We've had quite a few genres make a comeback thanks to crowd funding, and the indie scene is as good as it's every been. The current crop of consoles are decently powerful, and that allows most games to push themselves much further, which is good for everyone. We've also had one of the best games i've ever played in the last year (Witcher 3 of course).

With new tech on the way like VR and Hololens, we've loads to look forward to.

lawlolawl

764dak wrote: »

Oh? I'm pretty sure your console can't play Sonic Dash, Candy Crush, Tekken Card Tournament, Endless Skater, and Dungeon Hunter 5.

I can't tell if you are joking about this.

Mobile games aren't real games, they are a vehicle for microtransactions.

Otherwise, gaming is great at the moment. So much good stuff and so few hours in the day.

super_furry

I honestly don't think there's ever been a better time to be playing games. My biggest problem is that there's so much good stuff, I can't always find the time to play everything I want to.

Generic Dreadhead

I can honestly see both sides of the argument here.

That being said, I have being enjoying video games since 1989 and I'm enjoying them also in 2016

I think a lot of how we judge/view/review things is being tempered by cynicism coming from age and experience.

I genuinely don't think the games themselves are bad, I think the industry is toxic and making too many missteps.

• Bad Value DLC
• Games being Carved up
• Preorder madness
• Exclusives
• The closing of small (reliable) studios like Maxis (and many, many others)
• Free/Fee to Play/Pay
• Buyable Character Levelling Boosts
• Online Only
• Always Online
• 10 (or so) Console Studios/Developers/Producers making 90%+ of the "AAA" games
• Day 1 Patches being so common that it's pretty much industry standard
• The slow and steady disappearance of Games priced at €30 and €40
• Games lacking Couch Co-op (yeah, buy a 2nd copy of the game if you wanna play sucker)

I could go on. The industry is f**ked, the games are (for the most part) still good, they just keep poisoning the well by making good games cr@p by tacking on the above rubbish.

Retr0gamer

Find everything outside the indie space is pretty bad. Indie is just going from strength to strength though.

Triple A is in a very bad place now. There's been very few new triple A games released in the last 3 years. They are too expensive and studios are unwilling to take risks. Total console sales are also way down meaning it's tough to recoup costs on big projects.

Japanese development is also nearly vanished. There's a few very good niche developers hanging in there but everyone on that side of the pond is moving to producing crappy mobile games. It's a real shame but at least the indie scene there is starting to take off and move out of the traditional Doujin circles. Handheld gaming which was supported by excellent Japanese games looks to be on its last legs unfortunately. Mobile has taken over there and it doesn't get the respect it deserves in the west. Maybe NX will change things around but I don't see a future for a dedicate handheld like the 3DS or Vita.

PC seems to be riding up a peak at the moment. PC gaming seems to ride peaks and troughs but I haven't seen it this strong since the 90's. The open platform makes the system far better suited to where gaming is going compared to the closed systems of consoles which are holding things back artificially. The excellent range of easy to use development tools means it's easier than ever for anyone with a game idea to realise it and that is feeding into an expanding indie market.

764dak

lawlolawl wrote: »

764dak wrote: »

Oh? I'm pretty sure your console can't play Sonic Dash, Candy Crush, Tekken Card Tournament, Endless Skater, and Dungeon Hunter 5.

I can't tell if you are joking about this.

Mobile games aren't real games, they are a vehicle for microtransactions.

Otherwise, gaming is great at the moment. So much good stuff and so few hours in the day.

Those are PC games.

lawlolawl

764dak wrote: »

Those are PC games.

LOL, really?

I'm a pc/ps4 gamer and I've only heard of Candy Crush so I presumed they were all mobile.

Dave_The_Sheep

764dak wrote: »

Those are PC games.

Eh, what?

Gonzo

I think this generation is a mixed bag depending on what you use.

The PS4 so far has been very disappointing in terms of exclusives and originality compared to previous generations of playstation consoles. Off the top of my head Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are the only 2 genuine exclusives worth owning so far. The market is about to be split up between the PS4 and PS4 Pro, while everything will work on both, I fear the standard of PS4 performance/optimisation in games could take a dip with Pro getting more optimized versions. At this stage the Ps4 should have at least 5 or 6 really good exclusives. I owned an xbox 360 last generation and that machine had a much better selection of games this stage in its career.

Im not going to go into all the reasons why I went for a ps4 and not an Xbox One, but at least Microsoft are starting to get things right after 2 very bad years. The xbox one S looks decent, however i still wouldn't buy one, the Scorpio does look interesting.

The Wii, if you can call it this generation has had some great games but they have been so few and far between. Nintendo have had much better times in the past, especially the 16 bit era with the SNES, which is still hands down my favourite and most memorable gaming generation.

Will be interesting to see what Nintendo eventually bring to the table with the NX, I am really rooting for Nintendo to come up with something great with a more steady stream of great games.

PC gaming seems to be making a come back, easily helped by the weak current gen consoles. World of Warcraft is making a bit of a comeback with the Legion expansion so far showing much more promise than the previous 3 expansions. Overwatch is doing great and is a really good game. Then there is all the esports titles doing really well as well.

Matthew Gleeson

deadybai wrote: »

Does anyone else think that the eight generation of video games is the worst?m

Now I am not a hardcore gamer by any means so I am genuinely asking what are peoples opinions of this generation.

In saying that I had over around 60 games for the PS3 that bought from 07-13
. Most of these games I bought around 08-09. Compare that to my Ps4 from which I have had since last Christmas and I have 5 games. One fifa, GOW 3, The Last of US, Uncharted collection, Uncharted 4 and Rayman Legends. So really the only actual PS4 exclusive I have is a game which made its name on the PS3.

As a casual gamer I have a look now and to see what games due to come out and I see that a remastered version of an old game is on everyones lips. I can't be the only one who doesnt want to buy a game that they have already played right?

Like its either buy a remastered game or buy a franchise game like COD. Then when you see something that looks brilliant and original like No Mans Sky, the game ends up being sh!te. Even once great games like Batman and Battlefront have turned out sh!te.

Theres just nothing original anymore. Like I remember buying COD4 and was astonished as I had never really played a game like that before.
I don't want Halo 5 or 6, I want a new trend setter to replace halo.

what are everyones thoughts I this?

Too many remakes and remastered games these days. A lack of something original.......imo

764dak

lawlolawl wrote: »

LOL, really?

I'm a pc/ps4 gamer and I've only heard of Candy Crush so I presumed they were all mobile.

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Eh, what?

Tekken Card Tournament is a browser game. Candy Crush is a browser/app game. Sonic Dash, Dungeon Hunter 5 and Endless Skater are apps. Endless Skater is also an Xbox Live game.

Dave_The_Sheep

764dak wrote: »

Tekken Card Tournament is a browser game. Candy Crush is a browser/app game. Sonic Dash, Dungeon Hunter 5 and Endless Skater are apps. Endless Skater is also an Xbox Live game.

Yeah, that's what I thought when I looked them up. I thought I was going insane.

I wouldn't call them PC games, myself. Sure, you might be able to play them on a PC browser, but nah.

764dak

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Yeah, that's what I thought when I looked them up. I thought I was going insane.

I wouldn't call them PC games, myself. Sure, you might be able to play them on a PC browser, but nah.

Randall Floyd

Bloodborne, Witcher 3 and Bayonetta 2 are the only highlights I can think of in terms of AAA this gen so far.

The fact that Sony and Microsoft are pushing new hardware already is laughable.

the groutch

Matthew Gleeson wrote: »

Too many remakes and remastered games these days. A lack of something original.......imo

the entire entertainment industry is like that, playing it safe and doing just enough to keep the cash flowing in.
there's no appetite anymore to think outside the box and take risks.

CiDeRmAn

With games like Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Kart 8, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Doom, Drive Club, Elite Dangerous and Bayonetta 2, I'm pretty made up this console generation.
And that's not including titles like Firewatch, Tempest 2k, Kirby: Planet Robobot, Soma and Resogun

corcaigh07

Gen 6 was probably the best as you had so much choice. Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox, GameCube were all great for different reasons and the PC had heavyweights of its own.

Now, it doesn't make a massive difference if you are on PS4, XB1 or PC, the choice is mostly the same. I know there is Wii U as well but that has been a disappointment and already effectively dead.

the groutch

the groutch wrote: »

the entire entertainment industry is like that, playing it safe and doing just enough to keep the cash flowing in.
there's no appetite anymore to think outside the box and take risks.

This is it exactly, we were only talking here the other night while my partner was picking a film off the shelf she hadn't seen the amount of dvds there if they hadn't already been made wouldn't stand a chance of making it passed the pitch to hollywood execs, same with games or in the case of games if they did get made now would have many of the negative elements that others mentioned in the thread.

It's partially an age thing with me too I suspect I'm a lot more cynical in my old age

deadybai

the groutch wrote:

the entire entertainment industry is like that, playing it safe and doing just enough to keep the cash flowing in. there's no appetite anymore to think outside the box and take risks.

No doubt about that but would annoy ya when you look at 2013 and what a great year for games that was .

Notorious

I've been very happy with the current generation of video games. I'm not focused on exclusives, in fact I consider them a hindrance to the development of the industry.

So far I've thoroughly enjoyed Metal Gear Solid 5, Destiny, Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Batman AK, Uncharted 4, The Division (to an extent), Dragin Age 3, Bravery Default... I could keep going on.

Then I could add the smaller indie games to the list - Hotline Maimi stands out.
Remakes are another type I think we can take or leave; if it's a game you enjoyed, maybe you're happy to give it another go.

I'd love to see more new IPs, but I'm enjoying my gaming at the moment.

pablomakaveli

I have an Xbox1 and honestly buying that was a mistake. Its been really poor with games releases so far with practically no exclusives worth buying. I only really use the Xbox for multiplayer with friends who dont have PCs.

However it is a great time to be a PC gamer. Most console games that have been worth buying can be bought on PC as well and for cheaper, while theres been some great PC only games (Total War Warhammer for example). Then theres the booming indie scene, which is at its strongest on PC.

I think consoles days of dominance are numbered as PC is going from strength.

Akrasia

I'm still playing on the 360. I never upgrade until halfway through the life-cycle of a console generation because there are always tonnes of games on the previous gen that are well worth playing and for next to nothing, and the new generation takes years to find it's feet, and the good standout games will still be great games 5 years after they've been released when they can be picked up for a fraction of the price.

Maybe this is a relic of being too poor as kids to buy the new consoles, so always buying a second hand console of a richer friend for peanuts complete with their entire games collection.

I was going to pick up a new console to give BF1 a go, but looking at the beta it's not as mind blowing as I was hoping, so I'm happy to wait until after christmas and get one in the sales

I love technology, but I like to get other people to do all the expensive beta testing for me. I'll buy the finished product when it's tried and tested for half the price.

Its the same with VR gaming. The idea is amazing, but the implementation right now too early for me to jump on board. I'll let the early adopters pay to be beta testers and when they stop getting migraines and the developers have figured how to make games that are actually fun, then I'll be near the end of the queue to hand over a smaller amount of money for a superior product.

CiDeRmAn

The PS2/GC and Xbox software libraries were fantastic, and there just seemed to be so much worth playing.
What's more interesting is the lifespan of the formats, as the premium current gen formats, it was only around 5 years or so.
By the mid 2000's we had moved to the 360, PS3 and Wii, and they dominated for nearly a decade

Ol' Donie

Aw, this thread makes me all nostalgic for back when the PS3 generation was the worst ever.

Akrasia

Yeah, and this is why I'm so happy to wait before upgrading.

In the olden times of Atari and NES and Mega Drives, the game design was hugely limited by the power of the machines that they were programmed on. Each new generation unlocked enormous potential for new types of gaming experiences

Since the PS2/xbox , we have had essentially the core mechanics of modern games available to us in their essential nature. There might be fewer bells and whistles, but we had fully 3d open environments, full internet connectivity with online multiplayer games...

I was playing socom and battlefield 2 modern combat on ps2 for years while the ps3 and 360 were figuring out how to make consoles that didn't overheat or randomly melt down, and while there were still precious few games that tempted me to move to the new generation.

Since then, the improvements have been related to graphics and scope of games. The worlds have become larger, the graphics have become shinier but compare a game like Rayman legends. If you had never played the xbox one version, would you really have any less fun playing the 360 version?

Games like Battlefield 4 that are cross generation are just as enjoyable on the last generation as they are on the current gen.

Nintendo are of course the exception because their consoles are innovative rather than iterative. Wii games were an innovation in game control and design, wii u games are a further innovation that could not have been possible on wii

before I bought a 360 I had the wii and playing COD games using the wii-mote as the gun was actually a huge amount of fun. I'd still be playing it today except for the fact that nintendo basically shut down it's online services and killed that game

Ol' Donie

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The PS2/GC and Xbox software libraries were fantastic, and there just seemed to be so much worth playing.
What's more interesting is the lifespan of the formats, as the premium current gen formats, it was only around 5 years or so.
By the mid 2000's we had moved to the 360, PS3 and Wii, and they dominated for nearly a decade

To be fair, the PS2 & Cube generation...

Well, that'd take some beating.

Akrasia

Ol' Donie wrote: »

To be fair, the PS2 & Cube generation...

Well, that'd take some beating.

If Sony make a decent wipeout game for the ps4 then count me in.

Actually. I'm not even sure..

Part of the magic of games back then was the idea that you could levitate and fly around at a gazillion miles an hour to awesome music...

The 'I can't believe we can do this' has been replaced by 'hmm, this is like that other game I already played'

Forget wipeout There are loads of high octane future racers out there. I want a decent remake of Bushido Blade, because that was a game that is absolutely crying out for a remake. One on one sword fight to the death where any strike can kill or severely wound your opponent.

YouSavedMyLife

Akrasia wrote: »

If Sony make a decent wipeout game for the ps4 then count me in.

Actually. I'm not even sure..

Part of the magic of games back then was the idea that you could levitate and fly around at a gazillion miles an hour to awesome music...

The 'I can't believe we can do this' has been replaced by 'hmm, this is like that other game I already played'

Forget wipeout There are loads of high octane future racers out there. I want a decent remake of Bushido Blade, because that was a game that is absolutely crying out for a remake. One on one sword fight to the death where any strike can kill or severely wound your opponent.

I remember playing the WipeOut demo disc that came with the PS1 and being absolutely blown away thinking we finally arrived in the sci-fi 21st century. Then i recently played the most recent game on PS3 and i was done with it after an hour.

I'd love to play a new Bushido Blade with an insanely in-depth fighting system but in today's market i feel a game like that just wouldn't sell. Unless it was released as a budget title. I would love a new/remastered Vagrant Story though!I think a game like that would still work nowadays

GottaGetGatt

Play Wolfenstein The new order followed by the Old Blood. All faith in gaming will be restored.

Gregk961

Notorious wrote: »

So far I've thoroughly enjoyed Metal Gear Solid 5, Destiny, Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Batman AK, Uncharted 4, The Division (to an extent), Dragin Age 3, Bravery Default... I could keep going on.

Metal gear 5, Dragon Age Inquisition and Batman AK seem like poor choices to be used in an argument against the OP, all being low points in their respective series. I'm stunned to see a few people reference MGS5 as a standout game of this generation, Id use it to side with the OP if I didn't disagree on most fronts.

CiDeRmAn

Ol' Donie wrote: »

To be fair, the PS2 & Cube generation...

Well, that'd take some beating.

I know,
I didn't want to upset any Xbox fans out there.
And, in their defence, they had PGR as well as it's sequel, the excellent Amped titles, Strangers Wrath, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Republic Commando (feck off Retr0!), great ports of the GTA games of the day and some games franchise called "Halo" or something....
Oh, and they had a most awesome port of Outrun 2 from the arcades, as Sega were using the Xbox as the basis for their arcade machines at the time.

CiDeRmAn

Gregk961 wrote: »

Metal gear 5, Dragon Age Inquisition and Batman AK seem like poor choices to be used in an argument against the OP, all being low points in their respective series. I'm stunned to see a few people reference MGS5 as a standout game of this generation, Id use it to side with the OP if I didn't disagree on most fronts.

Arkham Knight?
A low point?
When was this consensus reached?
I played it and loved it, mostly, same weaknesses as previous titles but I enjoyed it a lot more than Arkham City.

K.O.Kiki

A "generation" with The Witcher 3 cannot be bad.

Also Overwatch.

Also also Guilt Gear Xrd (I'm still bad at it, but it looks & plays amazing).

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I know,
I didn't want to upset any Xbox fans out there.
And, in their defence, they had PGR as well as it's sequel, the excellent Amped titles, Strangers Wrath, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Republic Commando (feck off Retr0!), great ports of the GTA games of the day and some games franchise called "Halo" or something....
Oh, and they had a most awesome port of Outrun 2 from the arcades, as Sega were using the Xbox as the basis for their arcade machines at the time.

The Xbox though is kind of like the current consoles, everything on it bar a few exceptions was available on PC or other systems. It did have some excellent games, Metal Wolf Chaos, Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta and Ninja Gaiden Black (best Xbox game ever, how could you forget this one!) made it worth owning... but only just. I'd still put it ahead of the PS4 and Xbox One.

johnny_ultimate

I think most comments about the weaknesses of modern gaming - whether that's lack of originality or iffy business practices - apply almost exclusively to AAA games, but it's never been easier to find alternatives. Like every single major digital store is now absolutely overloaded with bold, unique and cheap games, I don't know if anybody could reasonably dispute that. Sure, it's nice to have a big blockbuster every now and then - but CD Projekt, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Blizzard etc still release games reasonably regularly There's definite concerns about the disappearance of the mid-budget game especially from Japan, but as indie games increase in complexity and ambition I think those concerns become more minor.

Other complaints can easily be explained by the fact that games are now bigger and more complex than ever before. Development time and cost have increased exponentially, and the sheer amount of variables helps explain the like of day one patches. Unfortunately the trade offs of increased graphical fidelity and technical complexity are fewer risks, more potential problems etc...

Also never quite sure why people complain about remasters so much. They're just completely ignorable IMO if you're not interested in a particular one, and not much different to something like a Blu-Ray re-release. They're inevitable given how protacted development times have become, and there's always going to be a decent-sized audience that actually benefits from their existence. Anyway, as the market and community has consistently and reliably shown (whether that's the constant calls for particular sequels, or the dominance of nostalgia projects in crowdfunding) many, many people want 'more of the same'.