Seetec Jobpath

Kraft.l

Hey everyone,
Just got a letter from these guys, saying I'm invited to an individual meeting with an employment advisor, they say I'll have to do a 52 week programme, has anyone been contacted by these guys, were your experiences with them positive or negative?
also were they successful in sourcing you employment?

jimmyw

This "job path" program is run by two different companies, depending on the area "Turas Nua" and Seetac"

Two threads here

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057636569


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057612153

Tinkerbell.123

Kraft.l wrote: »

Hey everyone,
Just got a letter from these guys, saying I'm invited to an individual meeting with an employment advisor, they say I'll have to do a 52 week programme, has anyone been contacted by these guys, were your experiences with them positive or negative?
also were they successful in sourcing you employment?

Hi I'm just wondering how did you get on? I received a letter from Seetec yesterday for a group meeting, does this meeting last for long? Thanks

Tinkerbell.123

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hi I'm just wondering how did you get on? I received a letter from Seetec yesterday for a group meeting, does this meeting last for long? Thanks

Group meeting will last 15-20 minutes and involve a power point presentation of them explaining what they are and getting a time for a 1-1 slot and are followed by 5 or 6 other power point shows . Then fast forward 52 weeks like me they will give you a nice letter to give to intreo to sign back on and a generic reference. You'll be in once a week for job search and once a month for review with an "employment advisor" who is as qualified as you are to give advice on finding a job and sources jobs for you from the same places you are looking. Play the game check the boxes and if you are lucky enough to find your own job don't answer the phone to the shower/

Tinkerbell.123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Group meeting will last 15-20 minutes and involve a power point presentation of them explaining what they are and getting a time for a 1-1 slot and are followed by 5 or 6 other power point shows . Then fast forward 52 weeks like me they will give you a nice letter to give to intreo to sign back on and a generic reference. You'll be in once a week for job search and once a month for review with an "employment advisor" who is as qualified as you are to give advice on finding a job and sources jobs for you from the same places you are looking. Play the game check the boxes and if you are lucky enough to find your own job don't answer the phone to the shower/

Hey thanks for all that! Great sounds like fun...not! Is it long after the group meeting until the 1-1 meeting?

Tinkerbell.123

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hey thanks for all that! Great sounds like fun...not! Is it long after the group meeting until the 1-1 meeting?

Could be the same day!!!! I had my meeting at 10am and they asked my to come back at 1pm. Was no issue for me but you can tell them it's not suitable (kids etc) and they'll slot you in for another time.

My experience with them was pretty negative but best go in with a positive attitude in the beginning. You might get something out of it hopefully.

Kraft.l

Deleted User wrote: »

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hey thanks for all that! Great sounds like fun...not! Is it long after the group meeting until the 1-1 meeting?

Could be the same day!!!! I had my meeting at 10am and they asked my to come back at 1pm. Was no issue for me but you can tell them it's not suitable (kids etc) and they'll slot you in for another time.

My experience with them was pretty negative but best go in with a positive attitude in the beginning. You might get something out of it hopefully.

My experience was positive, they genuinely do want to help people.

Tinkerbell.123

Kraft.l wrote: »

My experience was positive, they genuinely do want to help people.

Hi thats good to hear. Were you called to the 1-1 meeting the same day as the group meeting as well?

Kraft.l

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Kraft.l wrote: »

My experience was positive, they genuinely do want to help people.

Hi thats good to hear. Were you called to the 1-1 meeting the same day as the group meeting as well?

Yeah, you get assigned a caseworker and the help you with your cover letter and c.v

Tinkerbell.123

Kraft.l wrote: »

Yeah, you get assigned a caseworker and the help you with your cover letter and c.v

oh they help create a new CV and cover letter then after, god so how long do they spend doing that? I really dont want to be kept there all day

Kraft.l

Well that's probably a half here a half hour there usually a meeting is less than an hour.

endacl

Deleted User wrote: »

if you are lucky enough to find your own job don't answer the phone to the shower/

Most important bit.

endacl

Kraft.l wrote: »

My experience was positive, they genuinely do want to help people.

Of course they do. That's why they'll hassle people if they find a job themselves. So they can get the paperwork filled out and the bonus claimed.

LegacyUser

Hi
Im with them since Jan and so far nothing happens...just got new advisor again(3rd!) and still dont know what more to expect...what happens after you finish with them after 52 weeks and you're reffered to Intreo?

jimmyw

skuld wrote: »

Hi
Im with them since Jan and so far nothing happens...just got new advisor again(3rd!) and still dont know what more to expect...what happens after you finish with them after 52 weeks and you're reffered to Intreo?

...........send you to the LES (local employment service). Well thats what happened to me anyway

Golfproam

endacl wrote: »

Of course they do. That's why they'll hassle people if they find a job themselves. So they can get the paperwork filled out and the bonus claimed.

Exactly.

Eventually, when you get a job, close your claim with the DSP and do not bother telling Seetec. They are only interested in knowing when you have a job, so they can get their bonus. I am employed now and my claim is closed and I have been contacted several times since by Seetec stating they have been informed that my claim is closed and that I should tell them I am now employed so they can 'close my file'. Ha, no chance. I know the game they play and they can sing for the bonus they would get out of me. They were only a hindrance to me finding employment. The Seetec 'employment advisors' are young just out of school or college types who are trained in the hard selling, low balling techniques that represent the underbelly of the Sales profession. They are not qualified, trained or capable of offering employment advice. My one did not even know what the qualification title letters I have meant or what degrees they were associated with. I managed to string them along by calling on the days of appointments saying I had an interview and could not make it. I kept this up and managed to avoid over half of my appointments. Do whatever it takes to make life easy for yourself while you look for the job you want. Be smart, be cool and play the game back with them.

Golfproam

Deleted User wrote: »

Group meeting will last 15-20 minutes and involve a power point presentation of them explaining what they are and getting a time for a 1-1 slot and are followed by 5 or 6 other power point shows . Then fast forward 52 weeks like me they will give you a nice letter to give to intreo to sign back on and a generic reference. You'll be in once a week for job search and once a month for review with an "employment advisor" who is as qualified as you are to give advice on finding a job and sources jobs for you from the same places you are looking. Play the game check the boxes and if you are lucky enough to find your own job don't answer the phone to the shower/

Bang on correct and identical to my experience with that lot at Seetec. The thing to do is play the game back. They will demand a phone contact number so they can call you anytime and harass you. Give them a number, then deactivate your voicemail and get a new number.Eventually, when you get a job, close your claim with the DSP and do not bother telling Seetec. They are only interested in knowing when you have a job, so they can get their bonus. I am employed now and my claim is closed and I have been contacted several times since by Seetec stating they have been informed that my claim is closed and that I should tell them I am now employed so they can 'close my file'. Ha, no chance. I know the game they play and they can sing for the bonus they would get out of me.

jimmyw

jimmyw wrote: »

...........send you to the LES (local employment service). Well thats what happened to me anyway

Yeah same here, got a letter "inviting" me to a JobPath Next Steps event to remind me of the range of supports available to me and that I am obliged to sign up for something on the day , like course or a CE scheme maybe.

crossmolinalad

Golfproam wrote: »

Bang on correct and identical to my experience with that lot at Seetec. The thing to do is play the game back. They will demand a phone contact number so they can call you anytime and harass you. Give them a number, then deactivate your voicemail and get a new number.Eventually, when you get a job, close your claim with the DSP and do not bother telling Seetec. They are only interested in knowing when you have a job, so they can get their bonus. I am employed now and my claim is closed and I have been contacted several times since by Seetec stating they have been informed that my claim is closed and that I should tell them I am now employed so they can 'close my file'. Ha, no chance. I know the game they play and they can sing for the bonus they would get out of me.

For Morons like them I had a separate prepaid cheap cellphone
When I was finished with them it moved into the bottom drawer of my desk at home and will come out of there when I have to do business with morons like them again

Golfproam

crossmolinalad wrote: »

For Morons like them I had a separate prepaid cheap cellphone
When I was finished with them it moved into the bottom drawer of my desk at home and will come out of there when I have to do business with morons like them again

On top of that, they kept asking me to email in my CV to them. No way was I letting that shower of idiots have my CV to hand around. I keep control of who I send my info and data to myself.

LegacyUser

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah same here, got a letter "inviting" me to a JobPath Next Steps event to remind me of the range of supports available to me and that I am obliged to sign up for something on the day , like course or a CE scheme maybe.

How long after you finished Jobpath did you get this other letter inviting you to this Jobpath Next Steps event. I finished with Jobpath in June. Many Thanks

Bradley Pitt

Bradley Pitt wrote: »

How long after you finished Jobpath did you get this other letter inviting you to this Jobpath Next Steps event. I finished with Jobpath in June. Many Thanks

About 2-3 weeks after I finished giving 2 weeks notice of it.

Just a follow up on the "Jobpath Next Steps" thing, attended the meeting they give you a booklet and presentation with lots of different things mentioned like education , part time work CE etc. and expect you to sign up for 'something' .... anything without fully explaining all the options. I figured I'd read the booklet and decide so left along with 50% of the others in the room.

The basic jist was sign up or go back to Seetec :mad:

There were I'd say 100 people there who had all done 12 months with seetec. €5000 a head for signing on with seetec a year ago ????? thats a crazy amount of money for a scheme that has failed to deliver for that many people, and these meetings happen on a monthly basis :mad:

So my question is can I reasonably say no to further interaction with seetec as in refuse to sign a PP agreement and demand to be referred back to DSP as I will just be going back to looking for my own job again with that shower.
If do refuse what exactly are the consequences of this in terms of payments and for how long.

jenn1984

I've been hauled into a meeting next Tuesday even though I'm on a partial payment working three days a week. Anyone been in a similar situation? Thanks

Sufitzy

jenn1984 wrote: »

I've been hauled into a meeting next Tuesday even though I'm on a partial payment working three days a week. Anyone been in a similar situation? Thanks

Yes, I was the same, they basically want you to gain full time or over 30 hours employment so suggest jobs, look at your CV etc !

I've since gained full time employment with not assistance from them but if you have any question I'll be happy to try answer them.

jenn1984

Sufitzy wrote: »

Yes, I was the same, they basically want you to gain full time or over 30 hours employment so suggest jobs, look at your CV etc !

I've since gained full time employment with not assistance from them but if you have any question I'll be happy to try answer them.

Thanks - did you have to do weekly meetings with them and how long did the meetings take? Mine is scheduled for a day I work - I tried to reschedule but they are having internet problems in the office so I have yet to receive a new appointment.

Sufitzy

jenn1984 wrote: »

Thanks - did you have to do weekly meetings with them and how long did the meetings take? Mine is scheduled for a day I work - I tried to reschedule but they are having internet problems in the office so I have yet to receive a new appointment.

The first meeting was just under a hour and I explained to them the days I normally would work and they said they would schedule meetings on my days off.


I never got to the meeting stage as I started full time.

I'm sure it's no problem rescheduling once or twice.

There's plenty of posts on Seetec on boards if you have time to read through them, will give you a idea what to expect and some good advice !!!

artichoke

Joick8888 wrote: »

Yes I'm doing a seetecc course in Castlebar County Mayo I was there last week I found it a complete joke remember this seetec in the UK was fined for million pound for fixing the figures the CEO went to prison for six months the people that work in the Castlebar office are a complete joke they have no skills each time I put my name forward for a job I have not received any information I said ring up the company Direct myself which I have done they have said to me they have never received my CV from seetecc they are a joke the funny thing about it if I go for an interview which I have found a job myself they want to know all the information this is because when you get work they get commission and bonus I will not give them no information

Am afraid they will find out where you work through DSP. I believe when you signed the contract you also gave them permission to contact your employer/DSP for details. Did you read your contract before signing it? Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it, they will eventually find out where you work and contact your employer.

Joick8888

No you did not read my post properly maybe it's because I am from South Africa I am not working and I will never work and sign on at the same time what I am saying is when I find a job I will not tell seetecc that I am working I will tell the Department of Social Protection that I am working and I will sign off but I will not notify seetecc in Castlebar as they are a private company but the day I find work I will tell the Department of Social Protection that I am working and will close my claim I will not work and claim social security at the same time what I am saying is seetecc office have no input when they put my name forward for a job the company never gets back to me when I ring the company up and say to them did seetecc send you an email with my CV they say no we never received an email from seetecc in Castlebar Ireland I forward my CV myself direct to the company

Joick8888

So maybe you work for seetecc I don't know so before you jump to conclusions and type nonsense try and read it properly if you can read that is thank you

artichoke

No , i don’t work for Seetec,lol. Who is the one jumping to conclusions here? Also your post is not an easy read as it is lacking punctuation and is incoherent.

You misunderstood my question. When I asked you if you read your contract before signing it, I meant the contract you signed with Seetec. I didn’t asked you if you sign on with DSP. Please read my post again. If you are with Seetec, then you were referred to them by the DSP and you had to sign a contract on your first day with them (Seetec). Already when you sign that contract Seetec can claim a registration fee. In any way you are an asset to them from the first day. Just by signing the contract you already have earned them money.

As I understand from your ramblings is that you are currently on Seetec, and if you find a job you will not tell them instead just closing your claim with DSP.

All I did is asking you if you read the contract, and if you had read your contract properly then you would have seen the section where you had to give your consent via your signature for them to contact your employer/DSP to get your details.

Joick8888

artichoke wrote: »

No , i don’t work for Seetec,lol. Who is the one jumping to conclusions here? Also your post is not an easy read as it is lacking punctuation and is incoherent.

You misunderstood my question. When I asked you if you read your contract before signing it, I meant the contract you signed with Seetec. I didn’t asked you if you sign on with DSP. Please read my post again. If you are with Seetec, then you were referred to them by the DSP and you had to sign a contract on your first day with them (Seetec). Already when you sign that contract Seetec can claim a registration fee. In any way you are an asset to them from the first day. Just by signing the contract you already have earned them money.

As I understand from your ramblings is that you are currently on Seetec, and if you find a job you will not tell them instead just closing your claim with DSP.

All I did is asking you if you read the contract, and if you had read your contract properly then you would have seen the section where you had to give your consent via your signature for them to contact your employer/DSP to get your details.

I think you're the one that's rambling not me calm down you give yourself a cardiac blood pressure is the number one cause of killer in Ireland you know

mollygreene

Deleted User wrote:

€5000 a head for signing on with seetec a year ago ?????

Have you a source for this statement?
Hilarious.

wmpdd3

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/unemployment-scheme-is-outsourced-to-private-firms-1.1958383

In Britain, welfare-to-work providers can earn between £4,000 (€5,000) and £14,000 for getting long-term benefit claimants back to work.

€5000 per case at sign on, more if employment is secured, more again if employment lasts more than 12 months.

FRS / Seetec should be releasing figures for 2016 soon, so we'll see if the UK rates were adopted in Ireland.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/private-jobpath-operators-to-get-job-sustainment-fees-1.2387594

Jim Bob Scratcher

Joick8888 wrote: »

No you did not read my post properly maybe it's because I am from South Africa I am not working and I will never work and sign on at the same time what I am saying is when I find a job I will not tell seetecc that I am working I will tell the Department of Social Protection that I am working and I will sign off but I will not notify seetecc in Castlebar as they are a private company but the day I find work I will tell the Department of Social Protection that I am working and will close my claim I will not work and claim social security at the same time what I am saying is seetecc office have no input when they put my name forward for a job the company never gets back to me when I ring the company up and say to them did seetecc send you an email with my CV they say no we never received an email from seetecc in Castlebar Ireland I forward my CV myself direct to the company

If you find work on your accord just tell the DSP and ignore all calls from seetec after that, simple. Don't give them credit or their fancy bonus for doing nothing to help you. All the best

artichoke

Joick8888 wrote: »

I think you're the one that's rambling not me calm down you give yourself a cardiac blood pressure is the number one cause of killer in Ireland you know

Still not answering my question? Or want to clarify something? Well, that's fine so. I take it you just came on here to have a rant about Seetec , not to have an adult conversation,so I leave you to it. :-) Maybe you should inform yourself better about that organisation, before venting your frustration on here and having a go at other posters. It is the way they work. Because it got quietly sneaked into Ireland through the back door, quite a lot of people are uninformed about Jobpath and its workings. They only realise what they sign up for when they get referred to Seetec/Turas Nua.

It may come as a bad surprise for you, but once your are signed with Seetec and you find work, that is after they found out where you work,they will support you for a year while you are working. That means they contact you once a month to see how you are getting on. Doesn't matter if you found the job through your own effort, they will continue to hassle you. Once you get them on your back , that's it.

Can't post the link but if you google unitedpeople/the seetec threat , it will make for an interesting nighttime read and may help you understand that organisation better ;-)

Good night and good luck to you.

Joick8888

artichoke wrote: »

Still not answering my question? Or want to clarify something? Well, that's fine so. I take it you just came on here to have a rant about Seetec , not to have an adult conversation,so I leave you to it. :-) Maybe you should inform yourself better about that organisation, before venting your frustration on here and having a go at other posters. It is the way they work. Because it got quietly sneaked into Ireland through the back door, quite a lot of people are uninformed about Jobpath and its workings. They only realise what they sign up for when they get referred to Seetec/Turas Nua.

It may come as a bad surprise for you, but once your are signed with Seetec and you find work, that is after they found out where you work,they will support you for a year while you are working. That means they contact you once a month to see how you are getting on. Doesn't matter if you found the job through your own effort, they will continue to hassle you. Once you get them on your back , that's it.

Can't post the link but if you google unitedpeople/the seetec threat , it will make for an interesting nighttime read and may help you understand that organisation better ; look I'll let you have the last say I can't be bothered to argue with you you're probably an Irish racist anyway by the tone of your voice you sound very bitter and angry I bid you goodnight

Joick8888

Joick8888 wrote: »

artichoke wrote: »

Still not answering my question? Or want to clarify something? Well, that's fine so. I take it you just came on here to have a rant about Seetec , not to have an adult conversation,so I leave you to it. :-) Maybe you should inform yourself better about that organisation, before venting your frustration on here and having a go at other posters. It is the way they work. Because it got quietly sneaked into Ireland through the back door, quite a lot of people are uninformed about Jobpath and its workings. They only realise what they sign up for when they get referred to Seetec/Turas Nua.

It may come as a bad surprise for you, but once your are signed with Seetec and you find work, that is after they found out where you work,they will support you for a year while you are working. That means they contact you once a month to see how you are getting on. Doesn't matter if you found the job through your own effort, they will continue to hassle you. Once you get them on your back , that's it.

Can't post the link but if you google unitedpeople/the seetec threat , it will make for an interesting nighttime read and may help you understand that organisation better ; look I'll let you have the last say I can't be bothered to argue with you you're probably an Irish racist anyway by the tone of your voice you sound very bitter and angry I bid you goodnight

Joick8888

I'm not the one frustrated I think you are now can I suggest that you have to do two things take up a hobby or take up knitting that might suit you better I take it you're an Irish racist that's what you are you're a very angry person and I bid you goodnight

Joick8888

And before you call me as a foreign scrounger I know that is on the tip of your tongue I worked in Dublin for 10 years in the hospital through an agency where was laid off so I have paid my taxes and insurance like everyone else all I am saying seetec behaved in in a way on way they try and own you no one owns me I am my own person I have been on social welfare for six months then they appointed me to seetecc seetec is a UK company the CEO of seetecc in the UK went to prison for 6 months for fraud this was about 8 years ago for fiddling the figures that's all I was saying I went for an interview today in Sligo they rang me seven times asking me where was it what is the company name when I said I am not giving you this information as I found a job myself I don't get a phone call from a man in an office telling me I have to tell him demanding me then I get a phone call from a Dublin number telling me if I don't give them the details I will get a letter from a solicitor that's all do you think that's right

Jim Bob Scratcher

artichoke wrote: »

Still not answering my question? Or want to clarify something? Well, that's fine so. I take it you just came on here to have a rant about Seetec , not to have an adult conversation,so I leave you to it. :-) Maybe you should inform yourself better about that organisation, before venting your frustration on here and having a go at other posters. It is the way they work. Because it got quietly sneaked into Ireland through the back door, quite a lot of people are uninformed about Jobpath and its workings. They only realise what they sign up for when they get referred to Seetec/Turas Nua.

It may come as a bad surprise for you, but once your are signed with Seetec and you find work, that is after they found out where you work,they will support you for a year while you are working. That means they contact you once a month to see how you are getting on. Doesn't matter if you found the job through your own effort, they will continue to hassle you. Once you get them on your back , that's it.

Can't post the link but if you google unitedpeople/the seetec threat , it will make for an interesting nighttime read and may help you understand that organisation better ;-)

Good night and good luck to you.

You really starting to sound like a seetec employee.

artichoke

Joick8888 wrote: »

And before you call me as a foreign scrounger I know that is on the tip of your tongue I worked in Dublin for 10 years in the hospital through an agency where was laid off so I have paid my taxes and insurance like everyone else all I am saying seetec behaved in in a way on way they try and own you no one owns me I am my own person I have been on social welfare for six months then they appointed me to seetecc seetec is a UK company the CEO of seetecc in the UK went to prison for 6 months for fraud this was about 8 years ago for fiddling the figures that's all I was saying I went for an interview today in Sligo they rang me seven times asking me where was it what is the company name when I said I am not giving you this information as I found a job myself I don't get a phone call from a man in an office telling me I have to tell him demanding me then I get a phone call from a Dublin number telling me if I don't give them the details I will get a letter from a solicitor that's all do you think that's right

With all respect but do you think by calling me a racist, you are helping your argument? I get the impression you are projecting your own negative views of yourself on me.Where in my post did I call you a scrounger or insulted you based on your nationality? You make a lot of assumptions about me, that are completely unfounded. Neither am I bitter and angry. This are your own views.

And no, I don’t think it is right that they are threatening you with a solicitor. I can only advise you to contact citizen information about that matter. They may be able to help you.

Kraft.l

So what happens when you're finished Seetec?

Joick8888

Hi look I'm sorry if I said those things looking back it was wrong and immature of me I know you're not like that I think I took offence it was wrong of me and I should not have called you a racist you sound far from a racist I can see now you was only trying to get your point over it was me that jumped the gun and was ranting on accept my apologies

Joick8888

Kraft.l wrote: »

So what happens when you're finished Seetec?

I don't know good question

Kraft.l

Kraft.l wrote: »

So what happens when you're finished Seetec?

Joick8888 wrote: »

I don't know good question

See my post on the last page about "Job Path Next Steps"

artichoke

Joick8888 wrote: »

Hi look I'm sorry if I said those things looking back it was wrong and immature of me I know you're not like that I think I took offence it was wrong of me and I should not have called you a racist you sound far from a racist I can see now you was only trying to get your point over it was me that jumped the gun and was ranting on accept my apologies

Apologies accepted :-) See, the reason why I asked you about that contract is that once you sign it , especially the section I mentioned, you give them permission to contact the employer.They probably rushed you through the signing process hoping you are not questioning them about it. I don't know what the consequences would have been if you had refused to sign that contract. It is likely you get sanctioned if you don't comply. The problem with contracts is that once you sign it it becomes binding. That is the reason why they now put so much pressure on you.

If I came across as arrogant that was not my intention. I understand you have a bad day because of all the stress they cause you. I find the whole system wrong where people are put under pressure with threats. This is not helping unemployed people who may be already suffering from low self-esteem and stigmatisation by society.I know how Seetec treats their "customers" in the UK. I disagree strongly with their methods and hope the whole thing gets binned in future in Ireland. Like Jobbridge was.

Don't let them get to you. Just ignore their calls from now on. All the best.

Joick8888

artichoke wrote: »

Apologies accepted :-) See, the reason why I asked you about that contract is that once you sign it , especially the section I mentioned, you give them permission to contact the employer.They probably rushed you through the signing process hoping you are not questioning them about it. I don't know what the consequences would have been if you had refused to sign that contract. It is likely you get sanctioned if you don't comply. The problem with contracts is that once you sign it it becomes binding. That is the reason why they now put so much pressure on you.

If I came across as arrogant that was not my intention. I understand you have a bad day because of all the stress they cause you. I find the whole system wrong where people are put under pressure with threats. This is not helping unemployed people who may be already suffering from low self-esteem and stigmatisation by society.I know how Seetec treats their "customers" in the UK. I disagree strongly with their methods and hope the whole thing gets binned in future in Ireland. Like Jobbridge was.

Don't let them get to you. Just ignore their calls from now on. All the best.

ok thank you very much and and I'm sorry again

Kraft.l

Deleted User wrote: »

Just a follow up on the "Jobpath Next Steps" thing, attended the meeting they give you a booklet and presentation with lots of different things mentioned like education , part time work CE etc. and expect you to sign up for 'something' .... anything without fully explaining all the options. I figured I'd read the booklet and decide so left along with 50% of the others in the room.

The basic jist was sign up or go back to Seetec :mad:

There were I'd say 100 people there who had all done 12 months with seetec. €5000 a head for signing on with seetec a year ago ????? thats a crazy amount of money for a scheme that has failed to deliver for that many people, and these meetings happen on a monthly basis :mad:

So my question is can I reasonably say no to further interaction with seetec as in refuse to sign a PP agreement and demand to be referred back to DSP as I will just be going back to looking for my own job again with that shower.
If do refuse what exactly are the consequences of this in terms of payments and for how long.

Hey got your post, so what did you do in the end, because I just want to continue looking for work. I've done enough courses already.

Kraft.l

Kraft.l wrote: »

Hey got your post, so what did you do in the end, because I just want to continue looking for work. I've done enough courses already.

Same had my fill of courses, I applied for an eCollege course as I can keep doing that even if I get a job and if not avoid Seetec getting another 5k from the tax payer because of me in the interim hopefully. I can easily go in once a week and tick the boxes like I did for the last year but galls me to think they are getting paid because of me for something I was and am doing myself. If I was having any luck myself I wouldn't be there in the first place and then for them to basically just cheerlead and not source vacancies for me is a total f'n joke. Like I said about that next steps meeting 100 + people in the room they failed to find work for = a half a million DSP gave them for their endeavours and thats one meeting in one town.

Kraft.l

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Kraft.l wrote: »

Hey got your post, so what did you do in the end, because I just want to continue looking for work. I've done enough courses already.

Same had my fill of courses, I applied for an eCollege course as I can keep doing that even if I get a job and if not avoid Seetec getting another 5k from the tax payer because of me in the interim hopefully. I can easily go in once a week and tick the boxes like I did for the last year but galls me to think they are getting paid because of me for something I was and am doing myself. If I was having any luck myself I wouldn't be there in the first place and then for them to basically just cheerlead and not source vacancies for me is a total f'n joke. Like I said about that next steps meeting 100 + people in the room they failed to find work for = a half a million DSP gave them for their endeavours and thats one meeting in one town.

Thanks for the info.