Milking 13 times a week

Sam Kade

Do any of you try it? I was told that just to omit sunday evening milking and milk sunday morning and monday morning at the normal times. Would the milk yields drop much?

bullnuts

Sam Kade wrote: »

Do any of you try it? I was told that just to omit sunday evening milking and milk sunday morning and monday morning at the normal times. Would the milk yields drop much?

Was it your wife told you?ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

Sam Kade

bullnuts wrote: »

Was it your wife told you?ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

Who's asking the questions here
It was a dairygold salesman on ways to make life easier for the dairy farmer.

bullnuts

Sam Kade wrote: »

Who's asking the questions here
It was a dairygold salesman on ways to make life easier for the dairy farmer.

It would definitely set them back but as to how much I don't know and would it set them back to the extent it would pay to get a milker in ? But definitely take your Sunday off because it's something to look forward to once a week

mahoney_j

Relief Milker costs less than what you'd loose .scc would be big one to watch >150/200 I wouldn't chance it did it one year and found it always took till Wednesday before cows recovered .

Timmaay

mahoney_j wrote: »

Relief Milker costs less than what you'd loose .scc would be big one to watch >150/200 I wouldn't chance it did it one year and found it always took till Wednesday before cows recovered .

I milk at most 13 times a week for the whole year outside of calving... The other milking it costs me the milk from about 15 or so cows to pay one of the relief chaps I have.

carrollsno1

Most lads would go for the cows around 11 round here when oad Sunday lie on in the morning and the evening off best of both worlds

Sam Kade

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Most lads would go for the cows around 11 round here when oad Sunday lie on in the morning and the evening off best of both worlds

I suppose it would work if you didn't go over 18 hours, milk late saturday evening late sunday morning and very early monday morning. You still couldn't do feck all sunday though as you would be in bed early for the early monday morning milking. It would only cause more hassle than what it would be worth. I'll be sticking to the 14 milkings.

moneyheer

Hi all.
13 milkings a week here for the last 2 years all year round. No problems as far as l can see.

Sam Kade

moneyheer wrote: »

Hi all.
13 milkings a week here for the last 2 years all year round. No problems as far as l can see.

What type of cows have you?

whelan2

Sam Kade wrote: »

What type of cows have you?

milkers

moneyheer

Sam Kade wrote: »

What type of cows have you?

Montbeliarde

RightTurnClyde

Timmaay wrote: »

I milk at most 13 times a week for the whole year outside of calving... The other milking it costs me the milk from about 15 or so cows to pay one of the relief chaps I have.

That's the ticket. Have a relief guy that comes in Fri evening to Sun evening every second weekend from May on. Best move I ever made.
I'm happy to work every hour going for the other 12 days out of the fortnight, knowing I have a few days off at the end of the fortnight. But once Fri afternoon comes I'm out the gap. Fcuk the milk price, a couple of days family time once a fortnight...invaluable.

Sam Kade

moneyheer wrote: »

Montbeliarde

Do you milk normal time Sunday morning or do you leave the milking until later in the morning?

moneyheer

Sam Kade wrote: »

Do you milk normal time Sunday morning or do you leave the milking until later in the morning?

Normal time

Keepgrowing

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Most lads would go for the cows around 11 round here when oad Sunday lie on in the morning and the evening off best of both worlds

That would be my idea of hell. 11am milking. I'd prefer to milk at 6 and pay someone to do evening giving myself the whole day free.

On milk drop its about 10% and as MJ pointed out it recovers by Wed be hastens the herds decline in yield. The only day of the year we milk OAD is Christmas Day and with my MIL over for dinner I often wonder why I don't milk twice that day

kowtow

Keepgrowing wrote:

The only day of the year we milk OAD is Christmas Day and with my MIL over for dinner I often wonder why I don't milk twice that day

Why stop at twice?

Or is once already stretching it when the girls are 3 weeks dry ??

mahoney_j

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That would be my idea of hell. 11am milking. I'd prefer to milk at 6 and pay someone to do evening giving myself the whole day free.

On milk drop its about 10% and as MJ pointed out it recovers by Wed be hastens the herds decline in yield. The only day of the year we milk OAD is Christmas Day and with my MIL over for dinner I often wonder why I don't milk twice that day

Fook it go 3x

Timmaay

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fook it go 3x

One of the lads who milks for me is a son of a dairyfarmer, only a young lad but full of ideas. Anyways he was suggesting trying out milking 3 times a day on his home farm when he was around during Christmas last year, just to see how much more milk etc they'd get outa the cows! I asked him how long was he going to try it for ha, he said maybe a weekend!! I said good luck, not a hope the cows will have settled, you'll prob need at least a week at it. That fairly finished off the idea for him ha. I certainly can't fault his enthusiasm in fairness.

freedominacup

Timmaay wrote: »

One of the lads who milks for me is a son of a dairyfarmer, only a young lad but full of ideas. Anyways he was suggesting trying out milking 3 times a day on his home farm when he was around during Christmas last year, just to see how much more milk etc they'd get outa the cows! I asked him how long was he going to try it for ha, he said maybe a weekend!! I said good luck, not a hope the cows will have settled, you'll prob need at least a week at it. That fairly finished off the idea for him ha. I certainly can't fault his enthusiasm in fairness.

A neighbour of mine was referenced here a couple of weeks ago, at least I think it was him. He bought in a herd of very high yielding cows after a tb breakdown a few years ago. This guy is not afraid of hard work. The sort of lad who you'll hear filling the diet feeder around quarter to seven on a winter's morning when he has the cows milked. He was advised to go 3X with the new herd. Even with paying for a milking per day either afternoon or night milking he pulled the plug on it in less than a year. Madness unless you're in a situation where you are running parlour 24hrs.

whelan2

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That would be my idea of hell. 11am milking. I'd prefer to milk at 6 and pay someone to do evening giving myself the whole day free.

On milk drop its about 10% and as MJ pointed out it recovers by Wed be hastens the herds decline in yield. The only day of the year we milk OAD is Christmas Day and with my MIL over for dinner I often wonder why I don't milk twice that day

Love milking on christmas day, in the morning milking kids have been up early so milk early, milk mid afternoon then after a few beers, chance to clear the head and then all set for christmas dinner afterwards. Never knew my parents in law as they were both dead before I met oh, so kids have missed out big time there.

carrollsno1

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That would be my idea of hell. 11am milking. I'd prefer to milk at 6 and pay someone to do evening giving myself the whole day free.

On milk drop its about 10% and as MJ pointed out it recovers by Wed be hastens the herds decline in yield. The only day of the year we milk OAD is Christmas Day and with my MIL over for dinner I often wonder why I don't milk twice that day

Did you ever think maybe the relief lads are getting fed up of milking cows every weekend too

freedominacup

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Did you ever think maybe the relief lads are getting fed up of milking cows every weekend too

A lot of good relief milkers are working towards a target. Once they've got what they set out to get they finish. I'm sure they get fed up but like any of us working to a target you console yourself with the notion that it's only for a finite time.

carrollsno1

freedominacup wrote: »

A lot of good relief milkers are working towards a target. Once they've got what they set out to get they finish. I'm sure they get fed up but like any of us working to a target you console yourself with the notion that it's only for a finite time.

In other words once they do enough milking to get enough money there happy

Keepgrowing

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Did you ever think maybe the relief lads are getting fed up of milking cows every weekend too

Sir can't they say no, there's no shortage of them to do 1 Sun pm milking and €50 in the pocket

carrollsno1

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Sir can't they say no, there's no shortage of them to do 1 Sun pm milking and €50 in the pocket

Where's that money? And for what sort of cow numbers be very hard get that round my parts and people wonder why there's a lack of lads doing relief milking

visatorro

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Did you ever think maybe the relief lads are getting fed up of milking cows every weekend too

Young professional I'm aware of is doing four milking on a Sunday, 200 Johnny Cash. I'd say a good few farmers wouldn't be left with 200 after the bills.

White Clover

visatorro wrote: »

Young professional I'm aware of is doing four milking on a Sunday, 200 Johnny Cash. I'd say a good few farmers wouldn't be left with 200 after the bills.

Little wonder they're not making money when they're paying lads cash that they have paid tax on. That 50 is costing them around 75.
Why not get an invoiced bill and pay by cheque? it's Fully tax deductible then.....a no brainer.

Keepgrowing

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Where's that money? And for what sort of cow numbers be very hard get that round my parts and people wonder why there's a lack of lads doing relief milking

Young lad used to milk here Fri pm to Sun pm inclusive €250 beer money in his pocket going back to college every week

Keepgrowing

White Clover wrote: »

Little wonder they're not making money when they're paying lads cash that they have paid tax on. That 50 is costing them around 75.
Why not get an invoiced bill and pay by cheque? it's Fully tax deductible then.....a no brainer.

Correct, put them on the books

White Clover

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Correct, put them on the books

That's one way of doing it.

RightTurnClyde

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Where's that money? And for what sort of cow numbers be very hard get that round my parts and people wonder why there's a lack of lads doing relief milking

If you're good enough, you'll get that money

Sam Kade

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Young lad used to milk here Fri pm to Sun pm inclusive €250 beer money in his pocket going back to college every week

He'd want to be milking a fair heap of cows to be getting €50 a milking.

Keepgrowing

Sam Kade wrote: »

He'd want to be milking a fair heap of cows to be getting €50 a milking.

On the other hand I'd want to be earning more than €50 per milking doing something else

Timmaay

What does your rough hourly rate for milking work out at? About 20e/hr here.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Timmaay wrote: »

What does your rough hourly rate for milking work out at? About 20e/hr here.

FRS work out at around €45 a milking on weekdays and €50 or a bit more on Sunday. That would be for herds of 80 or more, a fiver or so less for smaller herds.

whelan2

It also depends what work you are doing , like if you have to bring in cows, milk them, close them in, power wash down, feed calves , fork in silage is different to rolling up cows in yard milk them and go home

Sam Kade

whelan2 wrote: »

It also depends what work you are doing , like if you have to bring in cows, milk them, close them in, power wash down, feed calves , pike in silage is different to rolling up cows in yard milk them and go home

fixed

whelan2

Sam Kade wrote: »

fixed

nooooooooooo

carrollsno1

Jaysus with the farm relief here you only get 30 during the week and 35 on a Sunday for a 2hr milking and then you get a tenner on top of that per hour after the 2nd hour

Keepgrowing

1 full tine milker here. Cows in morning and evening for him. He milks washes up and cows taken out for him. The odd time he may have to do himself. Does 22 a fortnight. At EP this wend so not back till tues.

He will also do a grass cover if we're not here on a Monday, paid €10/HR for that

carrollsno1

Keepgrowing wrote: »

1 full tine milker here. Cows in morning and evening for him. He milks washes up and cows taken out for him. The odd time he may have to do himself. Does 22 a fortnight. At EP this wend so not back till tues.

He will also do a grass cover if we're not here on a Monday, paid €10/HR for that

Doing 24 a fortnight myself 10 of them with someone else with me cows in in the morning get them myself in the evening but I work full time on that farm so I'm getting paid €10 an hour after tax even for the Sunday milking

White Clover

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Jaysus with the farm relief here you only get 30 during the week and 35 on a Sunday for a 2hr milking and then you get a tenner on top of that per hour after the 2nd hour

How many cows?

carrollsno1

White Clover wrote: »

How many cows?

Not paid on cows paid on the time I'm not with frs but that's the going rate

White Clover

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Not paid on cows paid on the time I'm not with frs but that's the going rate

Whether it's 50cows or 150? Hardly?

carrollsno1

White Clover wrote: »

Whether it's 50cows or 150? Hardly?

So I'm told anyway during the week it works out at 30 for the first 2 hours and 10 for each hour after that so if you milk 300 cows on a 60 unit rotary or 30 cows on a 6 unit you could be ending up with the same amount of money after it

doolally

Sam Kade wrote: »

Do any of you try it? I was told that just to omit sunday evening milking and milk sunday morning and monday morning at the normal times. Would the milk yields drop much?

Ok for me a couple of factors to consider
Stage in lactation, cow type, impact on scc, cost.

Done it for the last few years I found no real loss in production milking a bit later on Sunday a lie in till 9!
I'd question the 10% figure being quoted on here, As it was off set by a small increase of fat n protein . This however is practically non existent this year due to low base price.
For scc milk record once if it jumps to find the offender but it shouldn't affect it on 13pw
For me this year it's going to be down to €€€
So using the 10% ????loss rate here that's 2l/cow so 46 cent a day. Rate here is 60 euro for a milker on the books oad Sunday so 130 cows to break even on the relief.

caseman

Sam Kade wrote: »

Do any of you try it? I was told that just to omit sunday evening milking and milk sunday morning and monday morning at the normal times. Would the milk yields drop much?

I milk here oad all year no problems

Keepgrowing

caseman wrote: »

I milk here oad all year no problems

Interesting. How long are you at it? Is there much of a lead in time from a herd PoV ?
What kinda solids?
How does it compare financially to TAD.

carrollsno1

As far as i know purebred jerseys only go back around 5-6% on production litres wise but I presume the solids would be higher that's why I'm hoping to go oad milking pbr jerseys on a leased farm in the future just to give myself a better lifestyle and get more value per litre of milk sold

Sam Kade

carrollsno1 wrote: »

As far as i know purebred jerseys only go back around 5-6% on production litres wise but I presume the solids would be higher that's why I'm hoping to go oad milking pbr jerseys on a leased farm in the future just to give myself a better lifestyle and get more value per litre of milk sold

Pure jerseys aren"t the most docile of cows though fairly wicked by all accounts.