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Schools Rugby 2016-2017 (SEE MOD WARNING POST #893)

  • 24-08-2016 8:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Leinster schools u18s beat Italy in a pre interpro warm up today. The touring Italian side have already beaten Munster u18 schools and lost to an Ulster u19 side.
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/15157.php#.V73v3k0UUdU

    Connacht have pulled out of the schools interpros so the remaining provinces are now playing home and away to get 4 games each in the September series.

    Connacht have posted their schools league fixtures up on their website while the various B and C cups and leagues in Munster have been published on the Munster website.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭ The Pheasant2


    What's the reasoning behind Connacht dropping out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    What's the reasoning behind Connacht dropping out?
    Connacht have generally always only used one squad for 18s interpros but competed in both clubs and schools competitions. Before the schools interpros were played in early September and the clubs followed so it meant Connacht played 4/5 weeks of interpros straight. Club interpros have been moved earlier and Connacht the season before last had to play all 6 interpros in the space of 2/3 weeks and felt they couldn't do it so they've pulled out of the schools to concentrate on the club interpro competition


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ gj090


    Pretty weak pack this year for Leinster schools bar Milne and Baird.

    Ulster are favourites this year IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭ Purist98


    I was at the game between Leinster schools and Italy 18s. Centres very impressive, in particular Ryan with two tries. The 6 had a very good game. Milne is an incredible prospect and has been training with the 20s this summer. Baird brilliant as always and Hawkshaw did well off the bench


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Interpros have started.
    Munster schools beat Ulster 18-15.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Munster beat Leinster 8-3 in next of the interpros which was played in Thomond today


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭✭ FR2


    Has the age grade program in Leinster gone backwards recently. There was a time when Leinster losing a game at this level was a major surprise. They won the schools inter-pro for something like 9 years in a row. Now it looks as if the other provinces have the upper hand. Not in the loop so whats the consensus? Why are we losing with the resources at our disposal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    FR2 wrote: »
    Has the age grade program in Leinster gone backwards recently. There was a time when Leinster losing a game at this level was a major surprise. They won the schools inter-pro for something like 9 years in a row. Now it looks as if the other provinces have the upper hand. Not in the loop so whats the consensus? Why are we losing with the resources at our disposal?
    I don't think it has gone backwards more the other provinces have really upped their game.
    Leinster had won the Schools u18 interpros for over a decade straight so not winning the title isn't really an issue as other provinces have caught up to some extent.
    Leinster will nearly always dominate based on numbers playing and advantages that brings but sometimes others will be able to compete.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ greg090


    FR2 wrote: »
    Has the age grade program in Leinster gone backwards recently. There was a time when Leinster losing a game at this level was a major surprise. They won the schools inter-pro for something like 9 years in a row. Now it looks as if the other provinces have the upper hand. Not in the loop so whats the consensus? Why are we losing with the resources at our disposal?

    bit of both.. leinster have gone backwards and the others have improved.

    Leinster are doing a poor job at developing creative/highly skilled backlines at underage level.. they've overcome this using a big pack. This years team does not have a big pack that can boss their opposition.

    Leinster are also missing two players who had experience at this level in Charlie Ryan and Harry Byrne. And had Hawkshaw on the bench.

    Leinster's inability to play heads up creative rugby at underage level and always playing to a prescribed system. They have a good deal of individual talent in the team but the coaches have done a poor job in recent years translating that to a functional team.

    Leinster played against a 14 man Munster for 20 minutes and weren't able to break them down and score a try. 3 points at this level is simply unacceptable. Hopefully they can really improve on that as it is not reflective of the individual talent level of some of the players in that team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Schools interpros continue and plenty of friendlies on.
    Munster can essentially win series with a win over Ulster tomorrow.

    Connacht leagues starting next Wednesday...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Leagues starting in Connacht tomorrow.
    Limerick city cups also starting


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Some leagues starting in Leinster tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Anyone been to a game yet?
    Interpros now over so those players should be drifting back for the "friendlies" now and the league games


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    Anyone been to a game yet?
    Interpros now over so those players should be drifting back for the "friendlies" now and the league games

    I know a few results and how games have gone. Gonzaga gave Terenure a bit of a shock last week Nure started very slowly went 17-0 down in opening 15 and paid the price. Two decent teams but nothing amazing Nure probably aiming more for next year. Mary's beat High School minus a few leinster reps (mary's reps that is but you probably guessed that) 20-7 or something like that. Close game. De la Salle beat Conleths and sandford none of them going to go anywhere based on those games. In the league Conleths drew with Skerries again though neither team great. High School put a cricket score on St Pats not sure how you'd look at that pats have lost a lot of big players and high school have 3/4's of a team returning. That's all the results I know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    De La Salle C'town beat St.Pats 36-7 i think it was 4 trys they scored. Templeogue beat St.Josephs Drogheda not sure how much by. High school also beat St. Josephs 40/50-6. Conleths beat Ashbourne.
    I know most wont care about this league but you do get the odd gem from these teams. Frawley, Aspil and Adeolokun come to mind in recent years so i think its good to keep an eye on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    De La Salle C'town beat St.Pats 36-7 i think it was 4 trys they scored. Templeogue beat St.Josephs Drogheda not sure how much by. High school also beat St. Josephs 40/50-6. Conleths beat Ashbourne.
    I know most wont care about this league but you do get the odd gem from these teams. Frawley, Aspil and Adeolokun come to mind in recent years so i think its good to keep an eye on it
    There will be some schools with heavy base from top club sides every so often so can be some very good teams and very very good players.

    Connacht League continued yesterday and today. Jes comfortable winners against the Bish in senior game. Saw most of it and Jes won by 20 or so in the end. Look very good ahead at they aim to defend cup this year. Think they have a good few returning at senior level..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    Leinster League games today:

    CBC Monkstown vs The Kings Hospital
    Cistercian College Roscrea vs CUS
    St Andrews College vs St Fintans High School
    Castleknock College vs Newbridge College
    Gonzaga College vs Wesley College
    Presentation College Bray vs St Gerards School


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    Templeogue have pulled out of their league. That league is becoming a bit of a joke now between them pulling out and high school putting 10 or so tries a game on their opposition each game


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ stellenbosch


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Leinster League games today:

    CBC Monkstown vs The Kings Hospital
    Cistercian College Roscrea vs CUS
    St Andrews College vs St Fintans High School
    Castleknock College vs Newbridge College
    Gonzaga College vs Wesley College
    Presentation College Bray vs St Gerards School

    St Andrews lost to St Fintans 21-20
    CBC beat KH 24-11


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭ FrannoFan


    Castleknock beat newbridge in seniors


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Some results from today....

    Michaels 2nds beat NTK Merenskly (South Africa)
    De La Salle Churchtown 1sts 26 Blackrock College ???(4ths) 12

    Connacht League
    Garbally 7 Sligo Grammar 33

    Leinster Division 1A League Section A
    CBC Monkstown 24 Kings Hospital 11
    Cistercian Roscrea 49 CUS 5
    St Andrews 20 St Fintans Sutton 21

    Leinster Division 1A League Section B
    Castleknock 18 Newbridge 12
    Gonzaga 22 Wesley 18
    Pres Bray 19 Gerards Bray 29

    Leinster Division 1B Pool A
    St Conleths 15 Mount Temple 7

    Leinster Division 2A Midlands
    Salesian College 25 CBS Naas 45


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    St. Michaels JCT defeated Blackrock away 45-8.

    Not too surprising given how many players they return from last years team, should be closer contest once the JCT comes around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    Standout players in Leinster schools

    Belvedere
    Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf/Fullback)
    David Hawkshaw(Outhalf)
    Padraic Cagney(Scrumhalf)
    Ruadhran Byron(Backrow)
    Max Kearney(Backrow)

    St. Michaels
    Jack Dunne(Lock)
    Ryan Baird(Lock)
    Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
    Scott Penny(Backrow)
    David Ryan(Centre)

    Blackrock
    Charlie Ryan(Lock)
    Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
    Andrew Murphy(Backrow)
    Liam Turner(Centre)
    Stephen McLoughlin(Hooker)

    Clongowes
    Cathal Duff(Prop/Hooker)
    Conrad Daly(Scrumhalf)
    Sean McCrohan(Backrow)
    Ben O'Shea(Centre)
    Ronan Hannon(Prop)

    Roscrea
    Michael Milne(Prop)
    Conor Kelly(Fullback/Outhalf)
    Josh Wycherely(Prop)
    Aaron Murphy(Lock)
    Luke Rigney(Prop)

    CBC Monkstown
    Eoghan Clarke(Prop)
    Zach Sattar(Backrow)
    James Reynolds(Centre)

    Terenure
    Sam Dardis(Fullback)
    Adam La Grue(Wing)
    Harry O'Neill(Hooker)
    Rory McGrath(Lock)

    Gonzaga
    Eoin Barr(Centre/Wing)
    Brian O'Donnell(Backrow)

    Kings Hospital
    Connall Howley(Centre)
    Sean Goodburn(Prop)

    Newbridge
    Patrick Ryan(Backrow)
    Ben Howlett(Prop/Hooker)
    Cian Prendergast(Lock)
    Kevin Kyne(Centre/Wing)

    St. Marys
    Niall McEniff(Prop)
    Richie Bergin(Hooker)
    Ronan Watters(Lock)

    Kilkenny
    Rueben Pim(Backrow)
    Josh Miller(Outhalf)
    Lloyd Stephens(Lock)

    Pres Bray
    Elliott Ryan(Scrumhalf)
    Eoin O'Gara(Outhalf)
    Jack McGrath(Backrow)

    St. Andrews
    Peter Sullivan(Centre)
    Harry McCarthy(Hooker)

    CUS
    Adam Fleming

    Castleknock
    Cian Clancy(Backrow)
    Adam Corcoran(Backrow)


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ Sudolife


    Belvedere beat Clongowes 13-7 in SCT

    O'Sullivan playing 10 and Hawkshaw playing 13

    Byron and Kearney on the bench.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    Do you have a full teamsheet?

    Assume Cagney was at 9.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ stellenbosch


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Do you have a full teamsheet?

    Assume Cagney was at 9.

    Couple of results from today

    Senior league:

    Roscrea 18-CBC 17

    Junior league:

    CBC 15-Roscrea 11


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    Kilkenny College 3 vs 20 St Andrews College
    St Fintans High School 21 vs 12 The Kings Hospital


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Kilkenny College 3 vs 20 St Andrews College
    St Fintans High School 21 vs 12 The Kings Hospital

    Knew Fintans would do well but 2 from 2 is better than what I thought. My only worry for them is in the next few years will they still be up there or is this golden year or two they seem to have just a one off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 Tarf1234


    I think this year will probably be their peak for a while. I just hope they can keep the momentum going and maintain it. It would be great for Northside rugby and schools rugby in general. Would really love to see a Skerries or Fintans step up and start doing really well consistently.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭ brockboy02


    I think they will almost certainly drop off, a lot of their team has benefited from playing a lot of club rugby at both at Clontarf and Suttonians. If they stay a 1A school that will end.

    They also have benefitted from a large number of those players getting increased coaching at leinster underage level through leinster clubs.

    All of that will be gone if they stay up.


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