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Glass purposely thrown on bike paths

  • 24-08-2016 11:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭


    I've spotted a notable rise in glass being thrown directly onto bike paths that run adjacent to pedestrian paths leaving the pedestrian path untouched.

    3 sections of my daily commute in Dublin have this now and spaced far apart that it wouldn't be the same lads doing it.

    It's clearly purposely laid out across the width of the path. Is this a new fashionable trend among scummers this summer? Never noticed it this bad before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I've noticed it before. Haven't noticed a rise in it lately though.

    It's exacerbated by there being no cleaning regime for cycle tracks. And they tend not to be "swept" by car tyres either, especially the ones on the footpath, so the glass hangs around forever. In fact, the on-road cycle tracks gradually gather much of the broken glass from the main traffic lane, as car tyres push the glass towards the road side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    Can't say i've noticed any malicious glass planting trend or anything. I do take care after a bank holiday or an event like paddies day because there tends to be glass all over the place! The odd time some of the bike lanes that go through the drinking spots (e.g. fairview park) might have glass.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭dbagman


    Are you sure its not just people dropping glasses or bottles as opposed to someone doing it intentionally. Seems unlikely you'd see it 3 times on the same route but far enough apart that's it's not the same person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Noticed loads this morning on the N11 usually down to broken bus stops. Any reason why they don't use Perspex or cling film type stuff to hold the glass?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭C3PO


    ted1 wrote: »
    Noticed loads this morning on the N11 usually down to broken bus stops. Any reason why they don't use Perspex or cling film type stuff to hold the glass?

    I've also noticed a lot more on the N11 cycle path recently too! Spent 30 minutes extracting slivers of glass out of my tyres on Monday night!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I started a new job in March. New commute takes me down Brewery road from the N11. Just at the bus stop was a pile of glass, the remains of a bottle.

    Roll forward 6 months...

    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.

    And people wonder why cyclists avoid cycle lanes! The glass on the road tends to have a much shorter lifespan.

    I really wanted to take a snap of it every day, then turn it into a viral youtube sensation. Alas, I'll have to find another bottle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    I started a new job in March. New commute takes me down Brewery road from the N11. Just at the bus stop was a pile of glass, the remains of a bottle.

    Roll forward 6 months...

    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.

    And people wonder why cyclists avoid cycle lanes! The glass on the road tends to have a much shorter lifespan.

    I really wanted to take a snap of it every day, then turn it into a viral youtube sensation. Alas, I'll have to find another bottle.

    You could team up with TCD and do it - https://www.tcd.ie/Physics/news-events/news/pitchtardrop/ :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    I started a new job in March. New commute takes me down Brewery road from the N11. Just at the bus stop was a pile of glass, the remains of a bottle.

    Roll forward 6 months...

    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.

    And people wonder why cyclists avoid cycle lanes! The glass on the road tends to have a much shorter lifespan.

    I really wanted to take a snap of it every day, then turn it into a viral youtube sensation. Alas, I'll have to find another bottle.

    There's a broken car mirror in the bike lane heading south about 100m after the whites cross junction that has been there for months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    I started a new job in March. New commute takes me down Brewery road from the N11. Just at the bus stop was a pile of glass, the remains of a bottle.

    Roll forward 6 months...

    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.

    And people wonder why cyclists avoid cycle lanes! The glass on the road tends to have a much shorter lifespan.

    I really wanted to take a snap of it every day, then turn it into a viral youtube sensation. Alas, I'll have to find another bottle.


    If you wanted to take a snap of it, why couldn't you clean it up? I know its not your job but its your cycle path


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    ted1 wrote: »
    There's a broken car mirror in the bike lane heading south about 100m after the whites cross junction that has been there for months.

    Again why not do something about and clean it up, if its there that long?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    dbagman wrote: »
    Are you sure its not just people dropping glasses or bottles as opposed to someone doing it intentionally.
    Last autumn on the N11 between foxrock and whites cross, there was quite often placed briars/ blackberry thorns. I don't believe they just happened to be there (I did move them a few times, and the next morning they were back!).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Camden Street! Part of the nightly celebration seems to be the Russian custom of smashing the glass after drinking, judging by the cycle lanes every morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Again why not do something about and clean it up, if its there that long?

    Because it's just after the apex of a hill. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    If you wanted to take a snap of it, why couldn't you clean it up? I know its not your job but its your cycle path

    It's very dispersed over a km or more you'd need a few brushes , safety gloves etc, not something cyclists generally carry on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    If you wanted to take a snap of it, why couldn't you clean it up? I know its not your job but its your cycle path

    yeah, every cyclist should carry a dustpan, brush and bag to carry broken glass in :rolleyes:

    How about whoever broke the bottle clean it up? I know it's not their job, but it's their bottle ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Here's a snapshot of a section coming up to Samuel Beckett bridge that suddenly filled up with broken glass a few days ago (where arrow pointing). A lot of it seems to have gone now, evidently travelling around the city via tyre.

    It's an example... not a trace of glass on the adjoining kerbs, but it was practically the full width of the bike lane.

    Seen this kind of thing on the open bike lanes too with no kerbs (neatly stops at the edge where the pedestrian lane meets)

    395201.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Jawgap wrote: »
    yeah, every cyclist should carry a dustpan, brush and bag to carry broken glass in :rolleyes:

    How about whoever broke the bottle clean it up? I know it's not their job, but it's their bottle ;)


    I aint saying every cyclist should carry a dustpan around. But if it was my bike and constantly going near it for 6 months, i wouldn't sit on my arse and do not about it.
    Then again you have the people that do things, and the people that rather moan about it and take no action.

    As for the people that broke bottle there, they obviously don't give a crap about cyclists and are probably not nice people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    ted1 wrote: »
    It's very dispersed over a km or more you'd need a few brushes , safety gloves etc, not something cyclists generally carry on them.

    I was just talking about where people said it was there for 4 months or more. Surely some morning a cyclist could clean it up rather than constantly getting punctures etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I aint saying every cyclist should carry a dustpan around. But if it was my bike and constantly going near it for 6 months, i wouldn't sit on my arse and do not about it.
    Then again you have the people that do things, and the people that rather moan about it and take no action.

    As for the people that broke bottle there, they obviously don't give a crap about cyclists and are probably not nice people.

    Fair enough.

    I'd just swerve around it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    I'd just swerve around it.

    http://fixmystreet.ie/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I was just talking about where people said it was there for 4 months or more. Surely some morning a cyclist could clean it up rather than constantly getting punctures etc.

    No, it's not up to the general public to clean these up, that's what the council is for.

    Anyway this thread isn't about "how to deal with the glass" (obviously you have to swerve around it) it's about a noticeable trend for this in past few months, so was curious if anyone heard on the scumbag-grapevine* that this is the cool thing to do now?

    *(assuming you are fluent in scumbag)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    If you wanted to take a snap of it, why couldn't you clean it up? I know its not your job but its your cycle path

    Because I don't want to cut myself on a piece of glass that has been sitting out in a public space for months.

    It's not about whether it's my job or not.

    I'd prefer to moan about it rather than risk cutting myself and contracting weil's disease or something equally nasty, however unlikely.

    Of course, I could just moan about people moaning about things, which is more fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭onmebike


    buffalo wrote: »

    +1

    I use it for this type of stuff and I've found that SDCC are usually fairly prompt at getting to things once they're highlighted - next day or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    buffalo wrote: »

    Our results are not the same. I reported the same graffiti and unsafe surfaces in the same streets multiple times, and no action was ever taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Because I don't want to cut myself on a piece of glass that has been sitting out in a public space for months.

    It's not about whether it's my job or not.

    I'd prefer to moan about it rather than risk cutting myself and contracting weil's disease or something equally nasty, however unlikely.

    Of course, I could just moan about people moaning about things, which is more fun.

    Using a brush and dust pan, you won't handle the glass.

    But notify the council, sdcc are pretty good at handling this stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    I pick up broken glasses and bigger bits often enough and ditch them in the nearest litter bin, if it's near enough. Lots of people do. But when there's a whole cyclepath full of fragments, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Our results are not the same. I reported the same graffiti and unsafe surfaces in the same streets multiple times, and no action was ever taken.

    You could try http://www.fixyourstreet.ie/ ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭peneau


    ted1 wrote: »
    Noticed loads this morning on the N11 usually down to broken bus stops. Any reason why they don't use Perspex or cling film type stuff to hold the glass?

    Because the little arseholes set those on fire !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    buffalo wrote: »

    That's what I used to report the graffiti and bad surfaces. I gave up after a few reports with no result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭ShadyAcres


    DirkVoodoo wrote:
    Roll forward 6 months...


    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.


    And people wonder why cyclists avoid cycle lanes! The glass on the road tends to have a much shorter lifespan.

    I really wanted to take a snap of it every day, then turn it into a viral youtube sensation. Alas, I'll have to find another bottle.
    Could you not just do a good deed and clean it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭ShadyAcres


    I aint saying every cyclist should carry a dustpan around. But if it was my bike and constantly going near it for 6 months, i wouldn't sit on my arse and do not about it. Then again you have the people that do things, and the people that rather moan about it and take no action.

    I can't believe people would stop their bike every day for 6 months to take a picture. I cleaned up dog crap on the path outside my house last week. Should of just left it cos it wasn't my job, it's the council's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    ShadyAcres wrote: »
    I can't believe people would stop their bike every day for 6 months to take a picture. I cleaned up dog crap on the path outside my house last week. Should of just left it cos it wasn't my job, it's the council's.

    I've swept up glass near my house before, there's some new glass there since this morning, I'll be out sweeping when I get home. But there's a difference when it's on your doorstep vs 10km away and mid commute. Fupp that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I like this new sense of civic responsibility seeping through the forum. Tonight on my commute, I'm going to shoot some stray dogs. Why should I expect someone else to do it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Why should I expect someone else to do it?

    Latest trend in road bikes for 2017?

    bosnia-sarajevo-bicycle-street-cleaner-using-a-brush-and-bin-on-the-bg84y6.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    I like this new sense of civic responsibility seeping through the forum. Tonight on my commute, I'm going to shoot some stray dogs. Why should I expect someone else to do it?


    Two legged or Four?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    DirkVoodoo wrote:
    Roll forward 6 months...

    DirkVoodoo wrote:
    The glass is still there, it's been dispersed slightly, but not cleaned or swept away.

    I used fixmystreet to report glass on my commute and SDC replied that they would clean it. The next day I met them on my commute out cleaning it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    buffalo wrote: »

    I've used that. Meath County Council respond very promptly.....they turn potholes into pothumps within 48 hours and then come back six months later when the potholes return and you report them again! Very efficient :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I like this new sense of civic responsibility seeping through the forum. Tonight on my commute, I'm going to shoot some stray dogs. Why should I expect someone else to do it?
    You are Richard Ballantine, and I claim my cash prize.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74538649&postcount=10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    ShadyAcres wrote: »
    I can't believe people would stop their bike every day for 6 months to take a picture. I cleaned up dog crap on the path outside my house last week. Should of just left it cos it wasn't my job, it's the council's.

    Who needs to stop their bike to take a photo?

    Also, if I cleaned it up, I wouldn't be making a point with my artistic collage.

    And no, I'm not going to stop and pick up all the debris that litters my commute.

    I have reported it on Fixmystreet though, at least that was a useful suggestion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    By the way, people were talking on some thread about tyre glue - did anyone recommend one? I saw another thread talking about E-6000, will this repair little gashes in tyres?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Chuchote wrote: »
    By the way, people were talking on some thread about tyre glue - did anyone recommend one? I saw another thread talking about E-6000, will this repair little gashes in tyres?

    I spotted something like that in Lidl today. Maybe worth a look?

    This: http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?action=showDetail&id=43908


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Chuchote wrote: »
    That's what I used to report the graffiti and bad surfaces. I gave up after a few reports with no result.

    Which Co.Co?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Jaysus can we get the thread title changed. There's no one deliberately throwing glass on the bike lanes. This title is just giving people ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    De Bhál wrote: »
    Jaysus can we get the thread title changed. There's no one deliberately

    of course they are.. I'll post up more pics if you like :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Go on


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    I used fixmystreet to report glass on my commute and SDC replied that they would clean it. The next day I met them on my commute out cleaning it.

    I've found SDCC to be far better than DCC (next in merit order) and DLRCC (bottom on the list of shame) for addressing such issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I've found SDCC to be far better than DCC (next in merit order) and DLRCC (bottom on the list of shame) for addressing such issues.

    I'd agree with this. I have used fixmystreet before, the ramps by the coombe were resurfaced with proper tarmac ones after some successful posting.

    DLRCC never seem to respond to even minor notices.

    It disappoints and saddens me that the only time I have seen major changes have been through accidents: the tragic one in Blackrock when that young woman was killed and the cycle lane after the Blackrock clinic (northbound) was repaired shortly after I saw a cyclist being tended to at the scene of an accident there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    It might be good for those on Twitter to post photos of psychopath cycle paths - covered in glass, seamed, parked-in, debouching into turning traffic, crossing driveways, etc - with a special tag, and also tag in political accounts.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i was told that the feed from fixyourstreet.ie into DCC (at least to customer services, who despatch them) is sporadic. maybe just better ringing them?
    222 2222 is the number for DCC customer services (which is coincidentally the number from de la soul's 'ring ring ring (hey how ya doin')').


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Latest trend in road bikes for 2017?

    bosnia-sarajevo-bicycle-street-cleaner-using-a-brush-and-bin-on-the-bg84y6.jpg

    I actually have a solution for all these problems.

    I duct taped a broom to my front handle bars today and it rubbed the surface of the road clear in front of my front tyre as I peddled along.

    Didn't get a puncture so it's safe to say this method is 100% reliable. An elegant solution to a complex problem.


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