This Horse racing forum

Earendil

This place has basically died a death over the last couple of weeks, and over moderation is being put forward as one of reasons why. Is there any appetite for admins/moderators and forum users to enter into a grown up discussion with a view to resolving differences?

I'd say a lot of the lads who used to contribute to the daily threads aren't as active any more. Without a tips thread, I think the daily threads are vital to the forum.

Might just be the case that this forum will only be busy around the big festival times.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Probably the time of year with the lack of good racing-most lads on here are prob jumps fans as well.Take a look at the Not606 horse racing forum.There is a daily thread on there and some very good tipsters too-I post under Ste D.Hope the mods let me post this now-No harm flirting with another forum esp as it so quiet on here!

abarkie

Earendil wrote: »

This place has basically died a death over the last couple of weeks, and over moderation is being put forward as one of reasons why. Is there any appetite for admins/moderators and forum users to enter into a grown up discussion with a view to resolving differences?

Fully agree and it's not just the last couple of weeks

Hopefully it can make a turn in the right direction

the groutch

tbh the forum has never really recovered from the 2014 World Cup incident.

sdoc13

the groutch wrote:

tbh the forum has never really recovered from the 2014 World Cup incident.

Agree 100%

nuckeythompson

the groutch wrote:

tbh the forum has never really recovered from the 2014 World Cup incident.

Remind us

naughto

nuckeythompson wrote: »

Remind us

No point going down that road the ones that where there no who's to blame for the way it ended up and for how this form turned out after

PM me nudes

Don't talk about off topic stuff in the off topic thread. Ahhh memories

BumperD

I see a sponsored add by another forum on the top of this page today. It's a sign!

Earendil

Convert, would you or the other mods have a view on this?

The latest thread that seemed to be a flashpoint, and the one that I think may coincide with this forum going very quiet, was the one re the Charles Byrnes runners at Roscommon a few weeks back.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057629561&page=2

On it you make reference to stop using the term 'Gamble'. I wasn't involved on the thread but I recall thinking that was strange at the time as the RP and press in general were referring to it as a gamble.

droidman123

The foolishness of the 2014 incident among other reasons are why i dont post on the horse racing forums anymore.that forum site mentioned above looks good and they might be getting my business in future.its not only recently the horse racing forum here as gone downhill,its been sliding into an abyss for quite a while.

The Mig

Howya Jess

OLBG: SteveM

Hey Mig

ON ZEE BRIDLE

BumperD wrote: »

I see a sponsored add by another forum on the top of this page today. It's a sign!

Haha not a sponsored ad mlad-i post on not606 and here but it's dead there days-just saying there is another decent forum if anyone interested

BumperD

I was referring to the olbg add showing on my iPad!!!

Gringo180

Earendil wrote: »

Convert, would you or the other mods have a view on this?

The latest thread that seemed to be a flashpoint, and the one that I think may coincide with this forum going very quiet, was the one re the Charles Byrnes runners at Roscommon a few weeks back.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057629561&page=2

On it you make reference to stop using the term 'Gamble'. I wasn't involved on the thread but I recall thinking that was strange at the time as the RP and press in general were referring to it as a gamble.

I got a weeks ban over nothing on that topic. Probably get another one now.

PM me nudes

The fact that a mod still hasn't replied to this shows they aren't active members of the forum which only makes the situation worse

hawkhead

I loved this forum not a prolific poster by any means just enjoyed reading posts by folk that knew their **** (and those that didn't). Knowledge and info was put out there for everyone, banter on the most part was good and added to the enjoyment of the place.
Yet for some reason the powers that be decided to moderate in a way that was always going to mess things up.

The results are obvious

realdanbreen

Just to lighten the mood, is it OK for me to post a winner here for Bellewestown this evening?

The Mig

hawkhead wrote: »

I loved this forum not a prolific poster by any means just enjoyed reading posts by folk that knew their **** (and those that didn't). Knowledge and info was put out there for everyone, banter on the most part was good and added to the enjoyment of the place.
Yet for some reason the powers that be decided to moderate in a way that was always going to mess things up.

The results are obvious

Pretty much the same myself. Avid racing fan. Favourite sport after Football.
Thoroughly enjoy reading the posts from Tryfix about breeding and Dosage index, PC and his Choo Choo picks and all the other posters putting up selections and analysis. Hopefully it picks back up.

Mostly Harmless

Agree with most of what's been said in this thread.

Used to really enjoy this forum, massively regressive these days and no sign of anything changing in that regard.

Plastering sponsored ads all over the place prob not the answer either.

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

Just to lighten the mood, is it OK for me to post a winner here for Bellewestown this evening?

What do ye reckon? I'm a little nervous

CH3OH

realdanbreen wrote: »

What do ye reckon? I'm a little nervous

realdanbreen

CH3OH wrote: »

I don't know , I'm scared what if someone gets cross with me?

CH3OH

realdanbreen wrote: »

I don't know , I'm scared what if someone gets cross with me?

realdanbreen

CH3OH wrote: »

, WIIL I NAME THE HORSE?

Earendil

Why don't you just stick it up on gazza1's "Wed 24th august" thread.

tryfix

I don't think the forum can ever go back to the way it was. When Rossom and The Kid were posting tipping advice this place was really alive, they're long gone and some of the busiest posters who used to keep the forum going have also pulled back or left because of various incidents.

The only way to stop the forum from dying is if posters keep on posting despite the current situation. Use it or lose it!

minibear

I miss how busy this place used to be. I know feck all about the sport only that I love it and I've learned a lot from reading here. From the reasoning behind fancies & tips to breeding, general gossip, I find it all interesting and fun. I never have anything to contribute but I really appreciate all the posts and what I've picked up (both from a general information and also a betting perspective)

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

, WIIL I NAME THE HORSE?

Why didn't someone reassure me and tell me to go ahead?
The won in the first:D @ 25-1!l

Peintre Celebre

Right up there with some of the worst after timing ever on this forum I'd say

realdanbreen

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Right up there with some of the worst after timing ever on this forum I'd say

Look all ye had to do was ask the name of the horse, no point in taking it out on me.

Shemale

realdanbreen wrote: »

Look all ye had to do was ask the name of the horse, no point in taking it out on me.

Refer Mrs Doyle gif!

PM me nudes

Jesus that after timing is even worse than the world cup ****e

minibear

i think realdanbreen couldn't see the mrs doyle images. they don't show up on my phone, only on the pc.

Beasty

I am undoubtedly the one that "triggered" the 2014 incident, and as a result of that I've been trying not to get involved here unless absolutely necessary.

I don't want to go into that again - an Admin was involved at the time and the issue was resolved, even if not to everyone's satisfaction. However I would just add one thing that some, but certainly not all, of you will be aware. That 2014 "incident" was the culmination of a year or more of issues with the forum and something was bound to bring it to a head at some stage. For any of you that still harbour grudges, all I can do is apologise for my own actions, although I would contend there were a number of mitigating circumstances

That brings me onto certain things that have taken place on the forum. I note mention of an individual that used the forum for effectively advertising a paid tipping service. To be clear that is entirely against site rules. Anyone advertising can expect a straight site ban, although I do not believe that ever happened in this case as the mod and CMods did not alert the Admins to what was going on (which has now ceased)

On the issue of forum traffic, I have looked at the month of August in 2012 (when the last Olympics were going on). I think that's a fair comparison and would note that forum traffic has dropped 30% since then. However I would add that traffic across the site is down 35% based on the same comparison

So yes traffic is down. Also the issues we had during that 2013/14 period have reduced drastically. Yes some of the more "colourful" characters may no longer be around here, but equally some of the more troublesome posters are also not posting (for a variety of reasons I am sure)

Now one further point - I have no issue with this thread remaining open as a general forum feedback. The forum is probably overdue one (although in future please ask the local mods first). If there are any specific complaints about modding, this is not the place to air them. You can contact a CMod (and there are 4 of us so it certainly does not have to be me). After that you can start a thread in the Help Desk Forum. However your starting point should be to discuss it with the local mods first

Shemale

minibear wrote: »

i think realdanbreen couldn't see the mrs doyle images. they don't show up on my phone, only on the pc.

Could the realdanbreen actually be minibearpretendingtobedanbreen, stay tuned the plot thickens!

realdanbreen

Well I have another one for Navan tomorrow but unless ye are nice to me I will keep it to myself.

Bigbok

realdanbreen wrote: »

Well I have another one for Navan tomorrow but unless ye are nice to me I will keep it to myself.

What's the name of the horse

minibear

Shemale wrote: »

Could the realdanbreen actually be minibearpretendingtobedanbreen, stay tuned the plot thickens!

what, like some sort of hermaphrodite horse racing fan? no, sorry to disappoint.
I've only ever got a few tips from someone myself in real life. don't know anyone involved apart from them, and the tips weren't very good either!

realdnbreen, there's a separate tipping (and fancies for today) thread in the Gambling forum here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1384

realdanbreen

minibear wrote: »

what, like some sort of hermaphrodite horse racing fan? no, sorry to disappoint.
I've only ever got a few tips from someone myself in real life. don't know anyone involved apart from them, and the tips weren't very good either!

realdnbreen, there's a separate tipping (and fancies for today) thread in the Gambling forum here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1384

I'm aware of that but I really wanted just to spead a bit of joy around here instead. Now if a few more of ye ask me nicely I will name the horse(after I get on my few bob at lunchtime today) I mean where else would you get this kind of service?:cool:

Imhof Tank

Jaze Dan will you give it a rest?

This is a feedback thread. Take your tips to the daily or Rossom appreciation thread.

PM me nudes

Bit pathetic you want people to literally beg for a tip

Peintre Celebre

It does seem a little egotistical alright

realdanbreen

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Jaze Dan will you give it a rest?

This is a feedback thread. Take your tips to the daily or Rossom appreciation thread.

Hey! I'll take my tips wherever I like pal.
I won't be PM you the horse and that's for sure.

PM me nudes

realdanbreen wrote: »

Hey! I'll take my tips wherever I like pal.
I won't be PM you the horse and that's for sure.

I'm sure he's absolutely devastated.... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

BumperD

realdanbreen wrote: »

Hey! I'll take my tips wherever I like pal.
I won't be PM you the horse and that's for sure.

I've set up a Saturday thread for you Dan. If we go down the road of requesting a popularity contest in advance etc for contributions, the forum is screwed. Everyone posts information freely, and generally reads the aftertiming sticky. Good luck

Back on topic, this thread seems to have generated a much needed boost in contributions, long may it last

Imhof Tank

realdanbreen wrote: »

Hey! I'll take my tips wherever I like pal.
I won't be PM you the horse and that's for sure.

OK, just take them somewhere else mate and quit spamming the thread

Imhof Tank

Beasty wrote: »

I am undoubtedly the one that "triggered" the 2014 incident, and as a result of that I've been trying not to get involved here unless absolutely necessary.

I don't want to go into that again - an Admin was involved at the time and the issue was resolved, even if not to everyone's satisfaction. However I would just add one thing that some, but certainly not all, of you will be aware. That 2014 "incident" was the culmination of a year or more of issues with the forum and something was bound to bring it to a head at some stage. For any of you that still harbour grudges, all I can do is apologise for my own actions, although I would contend there were a number of mitigating circumstances

That brings me onto certain things that have taken place on the forum. I note mention of an individual that used the forum for effectively advertising a paid tipping service. To be clear that is entirely against site rules. Anyone advertising can expect a straight site ban, although I do not believe that ever happened in this case as the mod and CMods did not alert the Admins to what was going on (which has now ceased)

On the issue of forum traffic, I have looked at the month of August in 2012 (when the last Olympics were going on). I think that's a fair comparison and would note that forum traffic has dropped 30% since then. However I would add that traffic across the site is down 35% based on the same comparison

So yes traffic is down. Also the issues we had during that 2013/14 period have reduced drastically. Yes some of the more "colourful" characters may no longer be around here, but equally some of the more troublesome posters are also not posting (for a variety of reasons I am sure)

Now one further point - I have no issue with this thread remaining open as a general forum feedback. The forum is probably overdue one (although in future please ask the local mods first). If there are any specific complaints about modding, this is not the place to air them. You can contact a CMod (and there are 4 of us so it certainly does not have to be me). After that you can start a thread in the Help Desk Forum. However your starting point should be to discuss it with the local mods first

All that is fair enough even though some of those "colourful characters" are certainly missed.

The recent dry spell was certainly triggered by convert's intervention on the Charles Byrne's "gamble" posts. She appears to have gone to ground since then which is hard to understand. Why continue as a mod if she hasn't even got a contribution to make on this thread?

My own view is that no racing forum can function if commenting on coups and gambles is outlawed.

nuckeythompson

Imhof Tank wrote:

The recent dry spell was certainly triggered by convert's intervention on the Charles Byrne's "gamble" posts. She appears to have gone to ground since then which is hard to understand. Why continue as a mod if she hasn't even got a contribution to make on this thread?

Well said