cheap gaming build for 11 year old

tinner777

hi,

is there any chance i could pick up a full set up for e500??

To play batman, (and maybe gta for me) etc.

I can source windows but prob need a monitor and everything else.

Thanks

tinner777

1. What is your budget? €500

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Gaming

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? no

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? yes

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? have mouse, keyboard

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No

8. How can you pay? Credit Card, cash

9. When are you purchasing? November, oct??

me_irl

tinner777 wrote: »

To play gta 5 etc.

Hate to open that can of worms, but you're allowing an eleven year old to play GTAV?

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=33073&Title=Grand+Theft+Auto+V

Have an oul read of that first.

Editing for the keyboard warrior white knights since OP edited his/her post to show that the 11 year old won't be playing gtav.

tinner777

me_irl wrote: »

Hate to open that can of worms, but you're allowing an eleven year old to play GTAV? :rolleyes:

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=33073&Title=Grand+Theft+Auto+V

Have an oul read of that first.

no, i wanted that for myself, he's on skyrim, minecraft etc. I stated that as it was the first game, along with batman, our laptop wouldn't play

me_irl

tinner777 wrote: »

no, i wanted that for myself, he's on skyrim, minecraft etc. I stated that as it was the first game, along with batman, our laptop wouldn't play

Ah, right. Misunderstood the way it was phrased.

There are some decent links on this page that'll help you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/wiki/beginnersguide

Digital Solitude

i3 6100 €120
Rx 460 €120
H150M board €60
8gb DD4 €40
1tb HDD €40
Case €50
400w PSU €50

Shipping will bring it to close to €500. Amazon, scan, overclockers, mindfactory and computeruniverse are all sound, with mindfactory being the chepaest.

Post away if you've any questions

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (€103.83 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€43.26 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€32.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (€147.95 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Xigmatek Aeos MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€30.53 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX TS 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€43.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €455.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 03:03 CEST+0200

Buy a used monitor on Adverts.
These specs should be good for 1920x1080@Medium.
I've prioritised the GPU over CPU, hence why the older Core i3-4160.
In like-for-like tests, Core i3-6100 > i3-4160; however the total platform cost is cheaper & thus allows a better R9 380 graphics card.

@Digital Solitude
You want to update your template; 1Tb HDD is €48-52 right now.

Xenoronin

Might an AMD build be worth it in this case? They may not be great for top of the line performance but they can trundle along for some 1080p gaming.

Annnnd, after some quick googling. No. No it isn't. AMD are so far behind it is scary.

Another option to add to the above is to consider the new pentium line for a CPU. Yes it will bottleneck certain games. It does allow much more upgrade potential in the future though.

TerrorFirmer

Digital Solitude wrote: »

i3 6100 €120
Rx 460 €120
H150M board €60
8gb DD4 €40
1tb HDD €40
Case €50
400w PSU €50

Shipping will bring it to close to €500. Amazon, scan, overclockers, mindfactory and computeruniverse are all sound, with mindfactory being the chepaest.

Post away if you've any questions

This is exactly the build I had spec'd as well. Can get away with a €30 case and PSU though, HDD would be about €50, but overall it shouldn't be much more than €500 if you pick up a 2nd hand monitor on adverts or buy from OCUK's b-grade stock.

OCUK offer free shipping with any RX card so that should trump Mindfactory overall with their €30 shipping and they'd definitely be more of a pain in the ass for returns.

Nothing wrong with the above Haswell i3/380 build either. Would be faster in games but an older platform, I'd personally stick with Skylake and DDR4 at this point but either is a solid option.

SterlingArcher

me_irl wrote: »

Hate to open that can of worms, but you're allowing an eleven year old to play GTAV? :rolleyes:

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=33073&Title=Grand+Theft+Auto+V

Have an oul read of that first.

Ugh maybe you shoulda had an "oul read first". you seriously just got so triggered you didn't even bother read the post properly.

.... How about this pc building forum thread is kept for helping . And save the knee jerk judgment or any of that kind of bull**** for all the others.

Soz for off topic I was erm triggered....

Will have a look at some more parts myself. But Digitals build is solid for the price.

Digital Solitude

Sterling you big daisy I have severe PTSD from seeing a gun once, and I'm upset by your use of the term trigger.

I think a mix of mine and Kikis might be a shout, cheaper PSU and case might be able to accommodate a R9 380 into the build

dog_pig

me_irl wrote: »

Hate to open that can of worms, but you're allowing an eleven year old to play GTAV? :rolleyes:

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=33073&Title=Grand+Theft+Auto+V

Have an oul read of that first.

Good thing the poor child has someone like you looking out for them.

stevek93

Xenoronin wrote: »

Might an AMD build be worth it in this case? They may not be great for top of the line performance but they can trundle along for some 1080p gaming.

Annnnd, after some quick googling. No. No it isn't. AMD are so far behind it is scary.

Another option to add to the above is to consider the new pentium line for a CPU. Yes it will bottleneck certain games. It does allow much more upgrade potential in the future though.

Are APU's still a thing? Might be an option for the OP.

me_irl

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Ugh maybe you shoulda had an "oul read first". you seriously just got so triggered you didn't even bother read the post properly.

.... How about this pc building forum thread is kept for helping . And save the knee jerk judgment or any of that kind of bull**** for all the others.

Soz for off topic I was erm triggered....

Will have a look at some more parts myself. But Digitals build is solid for the price.

Ugh... :pac:

The way it was phrased (before OP edited his first post) it looked like he/she was looking for a PC to let his 11 year old play GTA which is completely irresponsible for a parent to do. I'm sure you'd agree, unless you're an ar*ehole.

Hope your day picks up. Maybe get a nice herbal tea. Go for a walk.

Musketeer4

dog_pig wrote: »

Good thing the poor child has someone like you looking out for them.

me_irl wrote: »

Hate to open that can of worms, but you're allowing an eleven year old to play GTAV? :rolleyes:

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=33073&Title=Grand+Theft+Auto+V

Have an oul read of that first.

Indeed. I would even go further to say to you OP that you really ought to be encouraging your child to be out and about being social and active rather than encouraging them to rot in front of a computer screen. I see a lot of this now, grown adults overindulging/encouraging their children in gaming. Plus it's invariably fathers who are at it. No offence, but i don't think its great.
I know I'm in the wrong forum to be voicing my opinion on this but my honest view is that gaming is somewhat of an unhealthy pursuit, physically and psychologically.

TerrorFirmer

stevek93 wrote: »

Are APU's still a thing? Might be an option for the OP.

For stuff like the Batman Arkham games, even the fastest APU is not really up to scratch at all, from either a graphics or processor point of view - and isn't that cheap either.

They're quite decent for people who mostly play stuff like World of Tanks, Counter Strike, Warcraft, League of Legends, and other less demanding titles.

For actual AAA action titles APU's are generally a bad call.

me_irl

Musketeer4 wrote: »

Indeed. I would even go further to say to you OP that you really ought to be encouraging your child to be out and about being social and active rather than encouraging them to rot in front of a computer screen. I see a lot of this now, grown adults overindulging/encouraging their children in gaming.
I know I'm in the wrong forum to be voicing my opinion on this but my honest view is that gaming is somewhat of an unhealthy pursuit, physically and psychologically.

Wouldn't go that far!

Before the white-knights came along.. (i.e before OP edited his/her post to phrase that he/she wanted to play gta and not the 11 year old and keyboard warriors did their keyboard warrior thing).. OP mentioned that the child will be playing Skyrim (fantasy violence) or Minecraft which I agree are great games to spark a child's imagination.

I'd agree all in moderation. Have a balance.

TerrorFirmer

Musketeer4 wrote: »

Indeed. I would even go further to say to you OP that you really ought to be encouraging your child to be out and about being social and active rather than encouraging them to rot in front of a computer screen. I see a lot of this now, grown adults overindulging/encouraging their children in gaming. Plus it's invariably fathers who are at it. No offence, but i don't think its great.
I know I'm in the wrong forum to be voicing my opinion on this but my honest view is that gaming is somewhat of an unhealthy pursuit, physically and psychologically.

Hopefully this is a wind up and you're not actually this astoundingly ignorant.

Musketeer4

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Hopefully this is a wind up and you're not actually this astoundingly ignorant.

No its not a wind up. I'm not anti gaming but I feel its not something that should be encouraged in a big way. I think being out, active and social is of much more benefit to a person than gaming, especially for a child.

Personally, I wouldn't have the slightest interest in it and I find it slightly worrying when I see people encouraging their children to get deeper into gaming.

SterlingArcher

Musketeer4 wrote: »

No its not a wind up. I'm not anti gaming but I feel its not something that should be encouraged in a big way. I think being out, active and social is of much more benefit to a person than gaming, especially for a child.

Personally, I wouldn't have the slightest interest in it and I find it slightly worrying when I see people encouraging their children to get deeper into gaming.

He came here asking for help building a pc. Not parenting advice or life advice. Is this not registering with the two guys in need of a safe space to lay down.

Musketeer4

SterlingArcher wrote: »

He came here asking for help building a pc. Not parenting advice or life advice. Is this not registering with the two guys in need of a safe space to lay down.

wut?

me_irl

Musketeer4 wrote: »

wut?

He has no qualms letting an eleven year old play an 18's rated game and therefore should never become a parent.

My post was only to bring attention to the fact that GTAV is not a game for kids, admittedly I could have worded it better as in the original post it looked like the OP was getting it to enable the child to play... and not for him/her.

Christ... back on topic.

There's a great site called PC Part Picker.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

There are no Irish/Euro prices unfortunately, but it might be a good gauge of what to expect when getting parts.

SterlingArcher

me_irl wrote: »

He has no qualms letting an eleven year old play an 18's rated game and therefore should never become a parent.

My post was only to bring attention to the fact that GTAV is not a game for kids, admittedly I could have worded it better as in the original post it looked like the OP was getting it to enable the child to play... and not for him/her.

Where did I say anything about letting kids play anything? There you go making up stuff again.

what I did say this is a thread by op seeking help to build a budget pc. But please do feel free to start your own thread in the proper forum about the does and don'ts of parenting.

me_irl

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Where did I say anything about letting kids play anything? There you go making up stuff again.

It's implied by attacking my posts that were supposed to give OP more information about the game (that it's not meant to be played by minors), albeit badly worded by me replying to a post that was also admittedly badly worded by the OP.

Whereas it's not an issue for you.

Kind of worrying that it isn't.

Xenoronin

Enough with the childish bickering. You are both right.
This isn't the place for this discussion, but it is worth pointing out the 18+ game as advice and leaving it at that.

Now scatter before the fuzz shows up.

dog_pig

Musketeer4 wrote: »

Indeed. I would even go further to say to you OP that you really ought to be encouraging your child to be out and about being social and active rather than encouraging them to rot in front of a computer screen. I see a lot of this now, grown adults overindulging/encouraging their children in gaming. Plus it's invariably fathers who are at it. No offence, but i don't think its great.
I know I'm in the wrong forum to be voicing my opinion on this but my honest view is that gaming is somewhat of an unhealthy pursuit, physically and psychologically.

Wow

SterlingArcher

me_irl wrote: »

It's implied by attacking my posts that were supposed to give OP more information about the game (that it's not meant to be played by minors), albeit badly worded by me replying to a post that was also admittedly badly worded by the OP.

Whereas it's not an issue for you.
.

You are the Queen of jumping to conclusions. As you have proved again and again in this thread.

You need to worry about yourself and not the op and my perceived lack of issue with anything ... Oh wait.. that's right. That was all mistakes and make believe in your head.. Worrying.

Better you teach your kids not be so presumptuous.

that is.. if you have time with all your Internet police work. Mr right on.

Op if you have any questions about your build. Feel free to ask. Looked at parts K.O did a good job pricing /sourcing. Maybe if you have 10 euro more stick in case.

This is an interesting one 41 euro amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B017KJDEJ2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471892066&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=game+max+volcano&dpPl=1&dpID=51MGTm58pqL&ref=plSrch#

tinner777

errr, ok..

Thanks for all the replies.

Yes I worded the op wrongly and edited it. I have no intention of letting my little boy play gta or taking him to the cinema to watch pulp fiction. He gets to play games in line with basketball, swimming, karate, reading and the maintenance of good school reports. In this respect I control the money and the internet connection of which both may disappear when I leave for work.

I used those two games as I know they didn't work with our current laptop. Gaming rigs on dell are out of my price range and I don't trust the sellers on ebay.

However, thanks for your concern.

Would those places identified actually build the computer??

Thanks again.

Joshua J

tinner777 wrote: »

errr, ok..

Thanks for all the replies.

Yes I worded the op wrongly and edited it. I have no intention of letting my little boy play gta or taking him to the cinema to watch pulp fiction. He gets to play games in line with basketball, swimming, karate, reading and the maintenance of good school reports. In this respect I control the money and the internet connection of which both may disappear when I leave for work.

I used those two games as I know they didn't work with our current laptop. Gaming rigs on dell are out of my price range and I don't trust the sellers on ebay.

However, thanks for your concern.

Would those places identified actually build the computer??

Thanks again.

Mindfactory/parts picker/Amazon don't build the computer for you just send you the parts. It's easy enough and there's loads of youtube vids showing what to do (I recently built my first PC and it's easy enough). If you want it built I think PC Specialist is your best bet.

tinner777

Joshua J wrote: »

Mindfactory/parts picker/Amazon don't build the computer for you just send you the parts. It's easy enough and there's loads of youtube vids showing what to do (I recently built my first PC and it's easy enough). If you want it built I think PC Specialist is your best bet.

no soldering???

Joshua J

tinner777 wrote: »

no soldering???

Not at all, it all just plugs together. You could do it together with your son get him started early.

This is literally the video I watched when building my PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2dJvqU2_x4

Digital Solitude

tinner777 wrote: »

no soldering???

You need a Philips screwdriver and the hand eye co ordination of a child, nothing complex to the building of a PC. Even the connections are different sizes and shapes to narrow down mix ups

Mena

Just to add that mind factory do do builds, just under 100 I think.

Not worth it but just mentioning.

tinner777

hi lads, i've 300 in my hand, do i buy some of the above or weight til next month and get them all together??
Also, will i be able to play with a hdmi tv?
thanks

K.O.Kiki

tinner777 wrote: »

hi lads, i've 300 in my hand, do i buy some of the above or weight til next month and get them all together??
Also, will i be able to play with a hdmi tv?
thanks

Best to buy everything together, don't want to end up with parts just lying around.

Yes you can play on a HDMI TV.

tinner777

can i use a usb wireless adapter with the above build or do i need a wireless card?

tinner777

:-)

tinner777

lads, could any of you link me the H150M board €60 motherboard?

thanks

Digital Solitude

http://m.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-H110M-HDV-Intel-H110-So-1151-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1015049.html

tinner777

scan - €432
430W Corsair CX Series , 80 PLUS Bronze, 32A +12V, Single Rail, 1x 120mm Fan, ATX v2.31, PSU £42.98
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache, 8ms, NCQ, OEM £40.84
Intel Core i3 6100, S 1151, Skylake, Dual Core, 3.7GHz, 3MB Cache, 1005MHz GPU, 37x Ratio, 47W, CPU, Retail £102.98
Aerocool Slim Black Desktop Computer Chassis, 2x USB 3.0, Black Interior, Mini ITX, Micro ATX £24.98
16GB (1x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Ballistix Sport LT, PC4-19200 (2400), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 17, XMP 2.0, 1.2V £61.49
2GB Gigabyte Radeon RX460 WindForce2 OC, 14nm Polaris, PCIe 3.0, 7000MHz GDDR5, 1212MHz Boost, 896 Streams, DP/HDMI/DVI £113.39

amazon - 72

ASRock H110M-HDV Intel H110 S 1151 DDR4 SATA3 USB 3.0 Micro ATX Motherboard

tinner777

how's that looking??

K.O.Kiki

tinner777 wrote: »

scan - €432
430W Corsair CX Series , 80 PLUS Bronze, 32A +12V, Single Rail, 1x 120mm Fan, ATX v2.31, PSU £42.98
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache, 8ms, NCQ, OEM £40.84
Intel Core i3 6100, S 1151, Skylake, Dual Core, 3.7GHz, 3MB Cache, 1005MHz GPU, 37x Ratio, 47W, CPU, Retail £102.98
Aerocool Slim Black Desktop Computer Chassis, 2x USB 3.0, Black Interior, Mini ITX, Micro ATX £24.98
16GB (1x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Ballistix Sport LT, PC4-19200 (2400), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 17, XMP 2.0, 1.2V £61.49
2GB Gigabyte Radeon RX460 WindForce2 OC, 14nm Polaris, PCIe 3.0, 7000MHz GDDR5, 1212MHz Boost, 896 Streams, DP/HDMI/DVI £113.39

amazon - 72

ASRock H110M-HDV Intel H110 S 1151 DDR4 SATA3 USB 3.0 Micro ATX Motherboard

Your case is too small for the motherboard.

Try this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£92.91 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£118.38 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 ATX Mid Tower Case (£30.96 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX TS 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.73 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £440.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-29 23:45 BST+0100

tinner777

how's this monitor for €140?

BenQ GL2450HM LED TN 24 inch Widescreen Multimedia Monitor (1920 x 1080, 2 ms GTG, VGA, DVI-D, HDMI, Speakers) - Glossy Black

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-GL2450HM-Widescreen-Multimedia-Speakers/dp/B005OPLG0O/ref=zg_bs_428652031_8?th=1

Digital Solitude

I've the model without speakers, it's pretty nice, does the job for me anyways.

SterlingArcher

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B015510R4M/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476017322&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=aoc+i2367fh&dpPl=1&dpID=51oPKPb2F3L&ref=plSrch

There are lots of options available. I take it you need a monitor with speakers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00YQKTGR8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476017865&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=aoc+i2367fh&dpPl=1&dpID=41pBpY2ClkL&ref=plSrch

tinner777

SterlingArcher wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B015510R4M/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476017322&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=aoc+i2367fh&dpPl=1&dpID=51oPKPb2F3L&ref=plSrch

There are lots of options available. I take it you need a monitor with speakers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00YQKTGR8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476017865&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=aoc+i2367fh&dpPl=1&dpID=41pBpY2ClkL&ref=plSrch

yes

SterlingArcher

tinner777 wrote: »

yes

Ahh cool. I use a headset myself never even used monitor speakers. Hell don't even know if mine has any.

Sure you can get some speakers for a present. Try keep eye around black Friday or whichever.

tinner777

hey sterling, when is black Friday??

Digital Solitude

4th Friday of November. 25th this year

SterlingArcher

Digital Solitude wrote: »

4th Friday of November. 25th this year

This and cyber Monday 28th November.

Amazon had some good deals last year.

K.O.Kiki

I'll be looking for 1Tb SSDs myself.