Fat parents with fat kids.

RoyalCelt

Was doing a bit of creeping on Facebook and some aul one I'm friends with has picks of her when she was in her twenties up. Nice and skinny healthy looking lady. Now fast forward 20 years and she's about 20 stone.

That's her choice. If she doesn't want to be healthy so be it. But her daughter is basically the spit of her in terms of being over weight and she mustn't be more than 15.

There's a picture of the granny too and she's very slim despite looking a good 90. I think this sums up a lot of Irish blood lines. Healthy grand parent from back in the date. Terribly unhealthy mother who was in decent shape until her twenties at least. And then an obese kid.

What pisses me off is the mother at least got a chance in life, obviously brought up the right way. But raising a very fat kid isn't giving him / her much of a chance. They'll never know anything other than being fat and lazy, and when they're older and they want to get in shape it will be very hard when you're so heavy already.
Not to mention side effects like excess skin.

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids I'll make sure they're healthy while they're still under my care. At least give them a chance. Your kids are basically your legacy as a person so why would you want to leave a fat fooook who'll probably breed another few fat fooks there after.

Bit of a rant but it sickens me seeing all these overweight parents with equally overweight kids.

endacl

It's the new norm. 'D'ya want fries wit doze leggins?'....

TommyKnocker

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Was doing a bit of creeping on Facebook and some aul one I'm friends with has picks of her when she was in her twenties up. Nice and skinny healthy looking lady. Now fast forward 20 years and she's about 20 stone.

That's her choice. If she doesn't want to be healthy so be it. But her daughter is basically the spit of her in terms of being over weight and she mustn't be more than 15.

There's a picture of the granny too and she's very slim despite looking a good 90. I think this sums up a lot of Irish blood lines. Healthy grand parent from back in the date. Terribly unhealthy mother who was in decent shape until her twenties at least. And then an obese kid.

What pisses me off is the mother at least got a chance in life, obviously brought up the right way. But raising a very fat kid isn't giving him / her much of a chance. They'll never know anything other than being fat and lazy, and when they're older and they want to get in shape it will be very hard when you're so heavy already.
Not to mention side effects like excess skin.

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids I'll make sure they're healthy while they're still under my care. At least give them a chance. Your kids are basically your legacy as a person so why would you want to leave a fat fooook who'll probably breed another few fat fooks there after.

Bit of a rant but it sickens me seeing all these overweight parents with equally overweight kids.

Judgemental much?

andekwarhola

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Was doing a bit of creeping on Facebook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_fetishism

NIMAN

At the end of the day, kids can only eat what their parents cook, well up to a certain age anyway.

If parents eat bad food, kids eat it too. If parents don't cook proper dinners, kids gonna be fat too.

Some people have even equated obese kids to child abuse, after all, its not like kids can sort out their own meals. Its a parents responsibility to feed their children good, healthy food, otherwise they are in for tough times in the future.

I also feel too many parents now want to be best mates with their kids, and do anything to please them. This often means buying them treats so often that they become the norm, rather than treats.

Add to all this the sedentry lifestyles that a lot of us and our kids live now.....recipe for disaster.

jimmy blevins

Have you ever wondered why fat parents have fat children? Or why Chinese parents have Chinese children? It's no coincidence

xabi

jimmy blevins wrote: »

Have you ever wondered why fat parents have fat children? Or why Chinese parents have Chinese children? It's no coincidence

Can't tell if you're serious

freshpopcorn

RoyalCelt wrote: »

There's a picture of the granny too and she's very slim despite looking a good 90. I think this sums up a lot of Irish blood lines. Healthy grand parent from back in the date. Terribly unhealthy mother who was in decent shape until her twenties at least. And then an obese kid.

What pisses me off is the mother at least got a chance in life, obviously brought up the right way. But raising a very fat kid isn't giving him / her much of a chance. They'll never know anything other than being fat and lazy, and when they're older and they want to get in shape it will be very hard when you're so heavy already.
Not to mention side effects like excess skin.

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids I'll make sure they're healthy while they're still under my care. At least give them a chance. Your kids are basically your legacy as a person so why would you want to leave a fat fooook who'll probably breed another few fat fooks there after.

Bit of a rant but it sickens me seeing all these overweight parents with equally overweight kids.

I hate people who comment on people's families without knowing the circumstances. Their usually like yourself and have no kids.
I know plenty of people who were over weight as kids/teenagers and they all lost weight now even tough that's all they ever knew. Equally I know people who were skinny when they were young and ended up heavy!

Wanderer2010

Being overweight or obese is completely normal these days just look at the statistics. So why all the hate towards fat people? Thin people are in the MINORITY.

YFlyer

Perving on fat wans are we now?

Gwynplaine

If you can't lift her don't shift her.

Mongfinder General

TommyKnocker wrote: »

Judgemental much?

Overweight by much?

prinzeugen

andekwarhola wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_fetishism

Must like the same magazine that Alan Partridge had in his top drawer..

https://mrmichaelcook.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/revealed-at-last-inside-alan-partridge’s-hotel-drawer/

Armchair Andy

The amount of sh1t some kids eat is unreal. Can't the parents even see what they're doing to their own offspring? Pizza chips chocolate mickey d's chupa chups fat frogs fruit shots or shoots whatever they're called. Lazy bastards.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

TommyKnocker wrote: »

Judgemental much?

I hate that saying.

xabi

Armchair Andy wrote: »

The amount of sh1t some kids eat is unreal. Can't the parents even see what they're doing to their own offspring? Pizza chips chocolate mickey d's chupa chups fat frogs fruit shots or shoots whatever they're called. Lazy bastards.

Says Armchair Andy, couldn't make it up

xabi

The Honey Monster wrote: »

I hate that saying.

Easily annoyed much?

Armchair Andy

xabi wrote:

Says Armchair Andy, couldn't make it up

I did actually.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Ah jaysuz they've problems with der glands and by glands I mean mouth.

xabi

Armchair Andy wrote: »

I did actually.

While sitting in your armchair?

jacknuig

It's up to the parents to look after their kids! As obesity poses numerous risks to the person's health, I never understand why parents will overlook their child's obesity. People may say I'm not in their shoes, but I can good as guess that a sedentary lifestyle and a bad diet are in 9/10 cases the blame. Saying that, there are other contributing factors, but ultimately it's up to the parents. They are responsible. It's like my granny's dog, so obese it couldn't walk 5 mins, she didn't exercise or feed the poor lad right, and it was her fault.

I'm not trying to be mean, but realistic.

Howjoe1

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Was doing a bit of creeping on Facebook and some aul one I'm friends with has picks of her when she was in her twenties up. Nice and skinny healthy looking lady. Now fast forward 20 years and she's about 20 stone.

That's her choice. If she doesn't want to be healthy so be it. But her daughter is basically the spit of her in terms of being over weight and she mustn't be more than 15.

There's a picture of the granny too and she's very slim despite looking a good 90. I think this sums up a lot of Irish blood lines. Healthy grand parent from back in the date. Terribly unhealthy mother who was in decent shape until her twenties at least. And then an obese kid.

What pisses me off is the mother at least got a chance in life, obviously brought up the right way. But raising a very fat kid isn't giving him / her much of a chance. They'll never know anything other than being fat and lazy, and when they're older and they want to get in shape it will be very hard when you're so heavy already.
Not to mention side effects like excess skin.

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids I'll make sure they're healthy while they're still under my care. At least give them a chance. Your kids are basically your legacy as a person so why would you want to leave a fat fooook who'll probably breed another few fat fooks there after.

Bit of a rant but it sickens me seeing all these overweight parents with equally overweight kids.

Is that you Dr Eva ?

Wigglepuppy

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Being overweight or obese is completely normal these days just look at the statistics. So why all the hate towards fat people? Thin people are in the MINORITY.

From what I see, while being overweight is not unusual, overweight people are still the minority.

But while some of the wording of the opening post is a bit crass, it's not unreasonable to be critical of mothers (and fathers) feeding children too much high-calorie, low-nutrition food resulting in them being overweight. It's not fair on them.

jackinthemix94

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

From what I see, while being overweight is not unusual, overweight people are still the minority.

But while some of the wording of the opening post is a bit crass, it's unreasonable to be critical of mothers (and fathers) feeding children too much high-calorie, low-nutrition food resulting in them being overweight. It's not fair on them.

But that is why most of them are fat?

What I hate is the "we can't blame anybody or be critical in case they get upset" attitude which is 0% helpful and probably has helped contribute to the obesity epidemic.

Realt Dearg Sec

RoyalCelt wrote: »

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids...

This line always promises some fantastic insights.

RobertKK

It is only puppy fat...

Johngoose

I do think it's a form of child abuse to feed your kids burgers,chips and other junk foods on a regular basis.Children develop eating habits when they are young,it is a shame to teach them to eat only crap food.

Wigglepuppy

jackinthemix94 wrote: »

But that is why most of them are fat?

What I hate is the "we can't blame anybody or be critical in case they get upset" attitude which is 0% helpful and probably has helped contribute to the obesity epidemic.

Dammit, quoted before edit! I meant to say it's NOT unreasonable to be critical of parents who feed their children to the point of being overweight!

jackinthemix94

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

Dammit, quoted before edit! I meant to say it's NOT unreasonable to be critical of parents who feed their children to the point of being overweight!

Oh. Then we're graaaand .

Pickpocket

I'm regularly overweight. It's a constant battle. It's my 'choice' but there are life-long issues underlining it all. I have a very destructive relationship with food and have had an eating disorder for about 7 years.

Who knows what's going on inside someone's head?

OP, writing off someone for being fat without any knowledge of their circumstances is extremely inconsiderate and very shallow.

Filmer Paradise

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Was doing a bit of creeping on Facebook and some aul one I'm friends with has picks of her when she was in her twenties up. Nice and skinny healthy looking lady. Now fast forward 20 years and she's about 20 stone.

That's her choice. If she doesn't want to be healthy so be it. But her daughter is basically the spit of her in terms of being over weight and she mustn't be more than 15.

There's a picture of the granny too and she's very slim despite looking a good 90. I think this sums up a lot of Irish blood lines. Healthy grand parent from back in the date. Terribly unhealthy mother who was in decent shape until her twenties at least. And then an obese kid.

What pisses me off is the mother at least got a chance in life, obviously brought up the right way. But raising a very fat kid isn't giving him / her much of a chance. They'll never know anything other than being fat and lazy, and when they're older and they want to get in shape it will be very hard when you're so heavy already.
Not to mention side effects like excess skin.

I don't know about yous, but if I ever have kids I'll make sure they're healthy while they're still under my care. At least give them a chance. Your kids are basically your legacy as a person so why would you want to leave a fat fooook who'll probably breed another few fat fooks there after.

Bit of a rant but it sickens me seeing all these overweight parents with equally overweight kids.

Okay OP.

I'm a slim bloke in my '40s. My wife is much fitter than me because she exercises regularly. She is overweight & I'm not. She eats more sensibly than I do too.

We have 2 kids. They're young, yet I can see one of them has the potential to have a weight problem despite doing lots of sport. The other one (we call her 'Trash-can') does no sport (refuses) eats what she likes & still has my wiry physique.

A lot of it is genetic really. Changing lifestyles have contributed to the problem though.

Part of me agrees with OP's view though. There's far too many fat people around now & far too much acceptance of it.

30 years ago an obese person would be stared at in this country. Nowadays they're very commonplace.

andekwarhola

Kids and junk food/sweets is a balancing act. Kids love that shit. Before I had kids, I thought i'd ban it outright but you can't because it just makes it exotic and when they get to their early teens and have some independence they'll gorge on it.

Best you can do in my opinion is what we do: let them have 'crap day' once a week when they have muck for their lunch and dinner but the rest of the week their meals are all decent (tasty) homemade stuff.

If you ask my kids what their favourite dinners are, the healthy stuff figures highly enough which is good.

Same with sweets: don't outright ban, just moderate.

Wigglepuppy

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Okay OP.

I'm a slim bloke in my '40s. My wife is much fitter than me because she exercises regularly. She is overweight & I'm not. She eats more sensibly than I do too.

We have 2 kids. They're young, yet I can see one of them has the potential to have a weight problem despite doing lots of sport. The other one (we call her 'Trash-can') does no sport (refuses) eats what she likes & still has my wiry physique.

A lot of it is genetic really. Changing lifestyles have contributed to the problem though.

Part of me agrees with OP's view though. There's far too many fat people around now & far too much acceptance of it.

30 years ago an obese person would be stared at in this country. Nowadays they're very commonplace.

Putting on weight is only due to excessive calories in and insufficient calories out. There may be underlying psychological reasons as to why someone does consume excessive calories, but the behaviour itself is the only thing that leads to weight gain. It's not genetic - your genes don't make you consume excessive invisible calories.

I do believe there are rare instances of a person having an extremely high or low metabolism, but still, if a person has an extremely low metabolism, once they just consume their required number of calories, they won't put on weight. Similarly, if a person has an extremely high metabolism but eats 3000 calories a day, they will put on weight.

Filmer Paradise

andekwarhola wrote: »

Kids and junk food/sweets is a balancing act. Kids love that shit. Before I had kids, I thought i'd ban it outright but you can't because it just makes it exotic and when they get to their early teens and have some independence they'll gorge on it.

Best you can do i my opinion is what we do: let them have 'crap days' once a week when they have muck for their dinner but the rest of the week their meals are all decent tasty homemade stuff. If you ask my kids what their favourite dinners are, the healthy stuff figures highly enough.

Same with sweets: don't outright ban, just moderate.

We're facing the same dilemma too.

I was born at the tail end of the '60s & had freedom as a child to play outside all the time.

Mam cooked meals for me from scratch every day, all good.

Sweets/crisps etc were a rare treat.

When I was a teen, about 13/14 two things happened in our house.

1. Deep fat fryers became a thing.

2. Multipaks of sweets/crisps became available & at very low prices.

Luckily for me, my eating patterns were well established by that stage, but I think that's where the seeds for the obesity epidemic were sown for many in this country.

Armchair Andy

andekwarhola wrote:

Best you can do in my opinion is what we do: let them have 'crap day' once a week when they have muck for their lunch and dinner but the rest of the week their meals are all decent (tasty) homemade stuff.

I still wouldn't give them free reign on a full crap day though. But yeah, moderation is the answer.

xabi

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

Putting on weight is only due to excessive calories in and insufficient calories out. There may be underlying psychological reasons as to why someone does consume excessive calories, but the behaviour itself is the only thing that leads to weight gain. It's not genetic - your genes don't make you consume excessive invisible calories.

I do believe there are rare instances of a person having an extremely high or low metabolism, but still, if a person has an extremely low metabolism, once they just consume their required number of calories, they won't put on weight. Similarly, if a person has an extremely high metabolism but eats 3000 calories a day, they will put on weight.

Take your science out of here, not the place for it.

The_Honeybadger

I'm a health and fitness nut and a good cook. My kids are a normal weight, active and generally happy with what they're given to eat. They often spend time with my in-laws though, where they are fed biscuits, chocolates and crisps like it's going out of fashion. This has led to several heated exchanges where I made my disapproval very clear but to no avail. The minute my back is turned I know they're sniggering and sneaking more junk to them. Drives me mental. The culprits are overweight themselves and have a really poor diet and knowledge of nutrition. This attitude to food is common enough among Irish households as far as I can see.

Filmer Paradise

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

Putting on weight is only due to excessive calories in and insufficient calories out. There may be underlying psychological reasons as to why someone does consume excessive calories, but the behaviour itself is the only thing that leads to weight gain. It's not genetic - your genes don't make you consume excessive invisible calories.

I do believe there are rare instances of a person having an extremely high or low metabolism, but still, if a person has an extremely low metabolism, once they just consume their required number of calories, they won't put on weight. Similarly, if a person has an extremely high metabolism but eats 3000 calories a day, they will put on weight.

I love eating when I'm hungry. That's my nature.

If I'm stressed I lose no sleep, but eating goes out the window.

Others, eat when theyr'e stressed & never know when they're full.

Believe me, this is true. I have 2 kids on the opposite end of the spectrum.

jacknuig

mickeyk wrote: »

I'm a health and fitness nut and a good cook. My kids are a normal weight, active and generally happy with what they're given to eat. They often spend time with my in-laws though, where they are fed biscuits, chocolates and crisps like it's going out of fashion. This has led to several heated exchanges where I made my disapproval very clear but to no avail. The minute my back is turned I know they're sniggering and sneaking more junk to them. Drives me mental. The culprits are overweight themselves and have a really poor diet and knowledge of nutrition. This attitude to food is common enough among Irish households as far as I can see.

Don't know how I'd handle that, I'd be fuming. Just looked at a pack of milk digestives today, 1500 calories in a pack =/

andekwarhola

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

Putting on weight is only due to excessive calories in and insufficient calories out. There may be underlying psychological reasons as to why someone does consume excessive calories, but the behaviour itself is the only thing that leads to weight gain. It's not genetic - your genes don't make you consume excessive invisible calories.

I do believe there are rare instances of a person having an extremely high or low metabolism, but still, if a person has an extremely low metabolism, once they just consume their required number of calories, they won't put on weight. Similarly, if a person has an extremely high metabolism but eats 3000 calories a day, they will put on weight.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

We're facing the same dilemma too.

I was born at the tail end of the '60s & had freedom as a child to play outside all the time.

Mam cooked meals for me from scratch every day, all good.

Sweets/crisps etc were a rare treat.

When I was a teen, about 13/14 two things happened in our house.

1. Deep fat fryers became a thing.

2. Multipaks of sweets/crisps became available & at very low prices.

Luckily for me, my eating patterns were well established by that stage, but I think that's where the seeds for the obesity epidemic were sown for many in this country.

The other thing that goes in tandem here is physical activity. Thankfully our kids play out all the time with their mates even though they love the games console and tablet. Sometimes, you just need to limit the inside time.

Plus find a structured activity they like. We're lucky that like football and play for a junior club but even if they didn't, presumably there is always something a kid is going to enjoy and you just have to find it and sort it.

Gen.Zhukov

xabi wrote: »

Take your science out of here, not the place for it.

Sure it's the place for it.

What's with all the aggression, having a bad night ?

Larry SR

It's hard not to agree with the OP when you see this problem with your own eyes. I can actually think of a number of mother/daughters who would fit the description and that's quite worrying in itself.

Wigglepuppy

Occasional high-calorie treats are certainly still possible for a person who is a healthy weight. You can eat pretty much what you want - some people seem to think a healthy diet is just salad and being hungry most of the time - you just cannot eat as much as you want.

jacknuig wrote: »

Don't know how I'd handle that, I'd be fuming. Just looked at a pack of milk digestives today, 1500 calories in a pack =/

Surprising - I thought there would be a lot more for a whole pack actually.

The_Honeybadger

jacknuig wrote: »

Don't know how I'd handle that, I'd be fuming. Just looked at a pack of milk digestives today, 1500 calories in a pack =/

Ah stop, I get this gem thrown at me regularly by my my MIL 'it's your job to raise them and my job to spoil them'. Think she is getting the message lately though after I threatened to stop bringing em over. Fooking nightmare

xabi

1.618 wrote: »

Sure it's the place for it.

What's with all the aggression, having a bad night ?

It's after hours and I'm joking, having a great night.

jacknuig

PS awful to think someone started this thread looking at some poor lass thinking she and her kids are obese. I have my thoughts on obesity, but Christ, imagine thinking you and your kids could of started this thread!

Wigglepuppy

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

I love eating when I'm hungry. That's my nature.

If I'm stressed I lose no sleep, but eating goes out the window.

Others, eat when theyr'e stressed & never know when they're full.

Believe me, this is true. I have 2 kids on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Oh I don't dispute that at all. I am the same - cannot eat when worried, but otherwise I fecking love food and have to watch that I don't over-eat. Love my pints too - so high in calories, even just one or two, but I ain't giving that up!

Canvas

If parents are not eating properly then most of the time their kids aren't eating properly either. No one needs to be a good cook or a nutritionist or rich to put three healthy meals on the table along with 2/3 snacks a day. It takes time,it takes planning & it takes effort but once you get into a routine of doing it then it all falls magically into place.
I personally cannot understand how or why any parent would feed their kids crap day in day out. And yes I consider it a form of abuse. If a child is being starved something would be done so why is it acceptable that kids are fed junk & not given excercise in fresh air?
I have two kids & since they started spoon feeding most of their meals are homemade. Obviously if we're out for dinner or on holidays we eat out, that's fine it's not an everyday occurrence.
But if I was giving them pizza, sausages, chips, burgers etc all the time I know I would have two very unsettled & unhealthy kids on my hands.
McDonald's is a very rare treat, probably about 4 times a year. They never ate a Chinese takeaway because I myself wouldn't eat one but I would cook it here from scratch (as best I can).
It's not rocket science by any means, get them used to healthy foods early & they get used to it.
I have no problem whatsoever giving them a treat but only after a proper dinner has been eaten.
I can appreciate that some kids are built bigger than others but when you see a 10 year old boy or girl sporting a good C cup & sweating like a priest in a playground then there's something very wrong.

learn_more

When you live in a society that thinks that eating just one piece of junk food like a choc bar EVERY DAY is completely normal then this problem ain't go anyway any time soon.

Filmer Paradise

learn_more wrote: »

When you live in a society that thinks that eating just one piece of junk food like a choc bar EVERY DAY is completely normal then this problem ain't go anyway any time soon.

Totally true & I hope more parents realise this.

FizzleSticks

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