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Literally

  • 01-08-2016 1:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭


    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

    "
    Definition of literally

    1
    : in a literal sense or manner : actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane>

    2
    : in effect : virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins>
    "

    Ignorance prevails.


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Comments

  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Language evolves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    seriously


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    I'm literally officially done cos that's so random


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 videopirate


    It's not ignorance. The word has evolved socially and is sometimes in a figurative sense. Actually, Charles Dickens used the word in the figurative sense too. The ignoramus.

    I hate pseudo-wordsmiths. Usually the grammar Nazi type too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    It's a bit like 'presently' I suppose. Means "soon" but nowadays it usually means "currently".

    But what ya gonna do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'm figuratively sick to the back teeth with this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    seriously

    Super serial


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    Like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    My favourite example is a friend of a friend who I hadn't met before once told a group of us that he been "literally raped" by his mechanic. I thought nothing of it as I accept that language evolves. I certainly didn't burst out laughing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    I'm literally using literally in a figuratively literal sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    The common response to issues concerning language, that language evolves, is often a copout by people who just won't accept that they are using words or phrases incorrectly. "Literally" means actually, not figuratively. It's as simple as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭White Ninja


    I could care less if somebody uses literally incorrectly.

    Evolution of language is a good one, why didn't I think of that when I was in English class? "No miss, I didn't use the wrong word, I evolved the english language....don't mention it."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The common response to issues concerning language, that language evolves, is often a copout by people who just won't accept that they are using words or phrases incorrectly. "Literally" means actually, not figuratively. It's as simple as that.


    Words can have different meanings shocker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Dey stole our wurds! I'm metaphorically incandescent with rage about the misuse of literally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'm loving this words can have different meanings argument. Actual definitions be damned - It's all about what I want it to mean!

    From now I'm on I'm going to refer to shoes as bagungunas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    kneemos wrote: »
    Words can have different meanings shocker.

    What's the point in having words if they're not going to be used correctly?

    Now we literally have no word for literally, according to Webster.

    Language evolves for sure. Just as the human brain seems to devolve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Padding
    Literally, like, listen, look, so I said, ya know (GAA)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 896 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fuzzytrooper


    I can't even....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,742 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Can you literally tell me another word for poo.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What's the point in having words if they're not going to be used correctly?

    Now we literally have no word for literally, according to Webster.

    Language evolves for sure. Just as the human brain seems to devolve.


    I think we have the wit to understand literal and figurative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭Decent Skin


    kneemos wrote: »
    Words can have different meanings shocker.

    So if you ask me for blue paint and I bring back pink paint because your understanding of "blue" is different to mine, you won't object to giving me the €25 for it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    kneemos wrote: »
    I think we have the wit to understand literal and figurative.


    In that case we should have the wit to use them correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,214 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    It's the British pronunciation of it -"lit-rilly" that grinds my gears more than anything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    [said with rancor and disgust] Prescriptivists.



    (That was a joke that linguists will get.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    She says,like literally, that music is the air she breathes

    And the malaprops make me wanna f**kin scream


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Literally pissing myself while reading this thread.

    My urethral sphincter is knackered; it's an extremely embarrassing problem and severely limits my day-to-day life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I once heard a girl talking on her mobile saying "I'm literally walking around the town looking for somewhere to buy a sandwich". I suppose that was the correct usage of the word but the sentence was so boring it didn't need the literally. I don't think "walking around the town looking for somewhere to buy a sandwich" is so hard to believe that you need to stress that it really is what you're actually doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The common response to issues concerning language, that language evolves, is often a copout by people who just won't accept that they are using words or phrases incorrectly. "Literally" means actually, not figuratively. It's as simple as that.

    You literally hit the nail on the head there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    People misuse a word in sufficient numbers for long enough and its meaning changes. The herd, ultimately, rules.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    The common response to issues concerning language, that language evolves, is often a copout by people who just won't accept that they are using words or phrases incorrectly. "Literally" means actually, not figuratively. It's as simple as that.

    Not according to experts with a far greater understanding of these things than you or I.

    How a word is used by the masses dictates its meaning. Language was around a long time before any dictionaries were written. Dictionaries are always playing catch up. Sticking rigidly to pre-existing vocabularly means we would never have new words and never have a language that evolves with society. In Ireland alone we use words like savage and deadly to describe positive things. Do you have an issue with those too? Have you never used words for emphasis while straying away from their literal meaning? I doubt it.

    People are using literally in the sense to over-emphasise. You don't have to like it, but you, like the people who update dictionaries, have to accept it. Or do you actually believe languages don't evolve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I will revert back on this later, if my fingers survive the process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner




    We're tearing up this place tonight, LITERALLY.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Yawn


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    kneemos wrote: »
    Words can have different meanings shocker.

    No. It doesn't have different meanings. It has A meaning. Simple as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Arghus wrote: »
    I'm loving this words can have different meanings argument. Actual definitions be damned - It's all about what I want it to mean!

    From now I'm on I'm going to refer to shoes as bagungunas.

    You can't

    We already use that word for lady fun bags!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    No. It doesn't have different meanings. It has A meaning. Simple as that.

    30 years ago gay meant happy, tell your patents your feeling very gay today and see the reaction you get.

    Meanings change and people use words differently as time goes on.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    No. It doesn't have different meanings. It has A meaning. Simple as that.

    It literally does not.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,908 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    So hungry
    I could literally eat a horse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭atticu


    Ficheall wrote: »

    "
    Definition of literally

    1
    : in a literal sense or manner : actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane>

    2
    : in effect : virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins>
    "

    Ignorance prevails.

    Could you be more Pacific.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    As, indeed, black people have with another word, and as gay people also have with the word queer.

    "We're here, we're here, get over it" being a memorable protest chant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    The difference in this case is that gay would have to mean the complete opposite of the original definition. 'He's completely gay; I mean he is literally attracted to women'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The only reason that use of literally has "evolved" is because people have been using it incorrectly for so long - in the mistaken belief that it means the exact opposite of what it is they are actually trying to express.

    In most cases people literally don't know what it actually means, so to cater to this ignorance - by changing the very defintion of the word into the exact thing it most most expressly is not: in fact its complete opposite! - is downright wrong. A case of devolving meaning - not the other way round.

    Comparison with the shifting meaning of a word such as "queer" is a false one. That's a case where the words popular use and meaning was renewed thanks to efforts to claim back and reporpose what had once been derogatory term of abuse, into a new more affirmative statement of identity and pride, helping to rob it of its negative power - a intentional political act.

    In the case of literally, it's as the OP said: ignorance prevailing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Arghus wrote: »
    The only reason that use of literally has "evolved" is because people have been using it incorrectly for so long - in the mistaken belief that it means the exact opposite of what it is they are actually trying to express.

    In most cases people literally don't know what it actually means, so to cater to this ignorance - by changing the very defintion of the word into the exact thing it most most expressly is not: in fact its complete opposite! - is downright wrong. A case of devolving meaning - not the other way round.

    Comparison with the shifting meaning of a word such as "queer" is a false one. That's a case where the words popular use and meaning was renewed thanks to efforts to claim back and reporpose what had once been derogatory term of abuse, into a new more affirmative statement of identity and pride, helping to rob it of its negative power - a intentional political act.

    In the case of literally, it's as the OP said: ignorance prevailing


    Any word can have a different meaning depending on inflection or even facial expression.
    Definitions of words are merely a guideline.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kneemos wrote: »
    Any word can have a different meaning depending on inflection or even facial expression.
    Definitions of words are merely a guideline.

    No, definitions are definitions.

    Interpretation is not the same as definition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,096 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    If literally can mean literally or figuratively, what word do we use when we want to emphasise that something is literal and not figurative?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭Decent Skin


    looksee wrote: »
    If literally can mean literally or figuratively, what word do we use when we want to emphasise that something is literal and not figurative?

    If "the masses" have their way that'll be "figuratively"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    looksee wrote: »
    If literally can mean literally or figuratively, what word do we use when we want to emphasise that something is literal and not figurative?

    Cromulently?


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