3 weeks to move out. Struggling to find a room

Ok so I've got 3 weeks to find some where new to live.
I've searched alot of places around me even tried Wicklow and Kildare. I just can't afford any of the current rates.
I only moved out of the family home less than a year ago( was about time) and my place there has been taken by bro's gf and their child so thats a no go.

Is there a point in me registering as homeless? i have a job the pay isnt too bad, but paying the rent and supporting my child (doesnt live with me) I don't think i could afford it. Will they help me if i have a full time job?or will i be put at the back of the list?
Other options ive came up with is sleep in my van for a few weeks/months while i save all my wages until i can afford somewhere decent and get myself back on my feet. (because i only have 3 weeks to get out i wasnt expecting it to happen so fast, and financially i can only pay last months rent here and the remainder of the tv and broadband contract.

Any help/ will be greatly recieved guys.

endacl

Is sharing an option?

I've looked at a few sharing places, If i found the right place I would take it. The ones i looked at were for people just wanting the house for monday to friday.

Wabbit Ears

there are some hotels/hostels around that do reasonable prices on long term stays. A google search for long term stay hostel or hotel brings up a good few options.

Arcade_Tryer

You have a relatively well paying job and one child who doesn't live with you to support.

And you can't find or afford anywhere to live?

If true, which I don't believe it is if you were truly desperate, then the housing crisis is far worse than first imagined.

yqtwqxqm

How much can you afford?

Arcade_Tryer

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

You have a relatively well paying job and one child who doesn't live with you to support.

And you can't find or afford anywhere to live?

If true, which I don't believe it is if you were truly desperate, then the housing crisis is far worse than first imagined.

I've seen house shares for 750 a month. i couldn't afford that. I couldn't afford to pay a deposit and first months rent.
Well I dont get huge wages and just because she doesn't live with me does not mean i don't support her or is any cheaper than if i was living with her.

yqtwqxqm

yqtwqxqm wrote: »

How much can you afford?

Well i was paying 400 a month where i am now, i could go abit higher than that.

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well i was paying 400 a month where i am now, i could go abit higher than that.

There are over 500 house shares in Dublin on daft for less than 500 per month

The Raptor

Definitely house share. No one should be homeless.

donegal.

you don't have to pay your last months rent were you are now( i presume you payed it when you moved in) and you'll get your deposit back. Can you not use these for the new place ?
and take the broadband/tv package with you if you're being hit with early termination fees?

i didnt pay a deposit, i technically have to pay my last months rent here, also i have been searching for 500 or less in south dublin. if i go towards city or north side my budget would be smaller. The ones ive seen so far( im still looking as we speak) alot of them seem to only be ideal for students who go home on weekends.

The Raptor

I've seen some houseshares for 650 euro which is ridiculously expensive but how about changing your budget to 600. Get a loan for deposit.

FizzleSticks

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I already had a loan got for a few things in the house i'm in now. and recently closed my credit card account. i'm sure i can scrape a deposit together in 3 weeks if i live with spending the bare minimum.

FizzleSticks

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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She doesn't live with me but ideally i'd rent a place that i'd be able to have her on weekends as i do now, I'd stretch the budget to accomodate this rather than for a bigger place thats on the north side.

rebelwithcause

You can't get rent allowance if you work over 30 hours per week. The income disregard is so low that even earning the minimum wage would mean you are entitled to nothing.

corner of hells

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She doesn't live with me but ideally i'd rent a place that i'd be able to have her on weekends as i do now, I'd stretch the budget to accomodate this rather than for a bigger place thats on the north side.

You won't qualify for a rent allowance but definitely get a housing needs assessment done in your local authority area.
You might be able to offer an argument for a housing association depending on your circumstances.

Mrs OBumble

corner of hells wrote: »

You might be able to offer an argument for a housing association depending on your circumstances.

Get the assessment for sure, but they won't count the kid in your housing needs unless you are the main caregiver.

Take anything, ideally a single room in a houseshare, for now, and work on saving a decent buffer: imagine what would happen if you got sick and couldn't work for a few weeks and didn't save some savings to fall back on.

Once you have enough money to pay for your costs for 12 weeks in the bank, look for a new place that's big enough to have the kid for weekends.

found a really affordable place thats just a room nearby i hope to view it tommorow. id be able to save my ass off for a few months until i can find a more suitable place for me to live.

riclad

You have to under a certain income to get rent allowance and be on the housing list.
i think the threshold for a couple is 79k income to be eligible for social housing.
quote ,
You won’t qualify for Rent Supplement if you:

Are in full-time employment or self-employment (30 hours or more a week). However, if you are assessed as in need of housing under the Rental Accommodation Scheme and have been out of full-time employment for 12 months or more you may be entitled to the Supplement - see ‘Employment and Rent Supplement’ below

rawn

Is house-share even really an option if he wants his kid there for the weekend though? I can't imagine too many housemates that would be OK with that. Also personally i wouldn't like to have my daughter staying in a house with strangers. I know that does not help the OP at all but i genuinely think a house share might not work

well as i said already Rawn, i would only have an increased budget if i had an place where i could have her, as in another parent in same situation. so it's looking like i am just going to have to get a single room. If i just rent a room id never have her there, would just have her in my mothers place.

Anyways i put up an ad on daft looking for housemates in similar situation.
thanks for advice guys

Hopeful2016

If you are on a reasonable salary you really should consider setting up a regular savings account and put something aside each month for emergencies like this. It's very worrying to see people living week to week with zero savings.

alias no.9

rawn wrote: »

Is house-share even really an option if he wants his kid there for the weekend though? I can't imagine too many housemates that would be OK with that. Also personally i wouldn't like to have my daughter staying in a house with strangers. I know that does not help the OP at all but i genuinely think a house share might not work

Its not ideal but neither is homelessness, I know which I'd pick...

Baby01032012

donegal. wrote: »

you don't have to pay your last months rent were you are now( i presume you payed it when you moved in) and you'll get your deposit back. Can you not use these for the new place ?
and take the broadband/tv package with you if you're being hit with early termination fees?

Why would you suggest someone doesn't have to pay their last month????
Deposit should not be used as last month as that is not its purpose.

Hopeful2016

Hopeful2016 wrote: »

If you are on a reasonable salary you really should consider setting up a regular savings account and put something aside each month for emergencies like this. It's very worrying to see people living week to week with zero savings.

i have savings in credit union, but have a loan against the savings already, My money situation isn't that great at the moment, i rushed into moving in about 8 months ago and with getting things for the house and a holiday i didnt get to save much money at all. This is what happens when you go against your gut feeling. Be grand she said, lol.

rawn

alias no.9 wrote:

Its not ideal but neither is homelessness, I know which I'd pick...

I completely agree, i was just pointing it out that it's less than ideal. I hope the OP can find somewhere where he can have his daughter is all!

donegal.

Baby01032012 wrote: »

Why would you suggest someone doesn't have to pay their last month????
Deposit should not be used as last month as that is not its purpose.

i was thinking he may have payed his final months rent as well as a deposit before he moved in.

Baby01032012

donegal. wrote: »

i was thinking he may have payed his final months rent as well as a deposit before he moved in.

Yes but very unlikely. That would be 3 months (first, final and deposit) It wouldn't be common. Especially with the OP struggling to make ends meet. It's still largely deposit plus first months rent up front. You phrased it as if it was the norm.

yqtwqxqm

Baby01032012 wrote: »

Yes but very unlikely. That would be 3 months (first, final and deposit) It wouldn't be common. Especially with the OP struggling to make ends meet. It's still largely deposit plus first months rent up front. You phrased it as if it was the norm.

1st and last months plus 1 months deposit is more common than not in Dublin now. And becoming more common all the time.

FishOnABike

If you don't mind me asking, why do you only have three weeks to move out. If you are more than six months renting where you are now you should be under a part IV tenancy and this can only be terminated in very specific circumstances.

_Brian

Surely OP should register as "can't afford to live exactly where I want" rather than homeless.

Op has the option of shares at low cost but just not ones op likes, what about making do till something better comes along ??
What about sleeping on your parents couch for a few weeks and save that rent for a better deposit.
What about move further out into commuter belt and commute ??
What about moving altogether to a county you can find work and accommodation suitable for you in.

This just really explains a lot of the current "homeless" explosion we see. These are people who are choosing to register as homeless because they won't compromise on their choice regarding where they live. I'm not saying no one is homeless, I'm saying its become somehow acceptable for such people to say they are homeless because they can't afford accommodation just exactly where they want it.

Find anything you can afford OP, save and move to something better when you can afford it. It's what generations of people have done, homeless isn't just some thing you say when you can't afford your ideal place to live, that's demeaning on genuinely homeless people.

Michael D Not Higgins

FishOnABike wrote: »

If you don't mind me asking, why do you only have three weeks to move out. If you are more than six months renting where you are now you should be under a part IV tenancy and this can only be terminated in very specific circumstances.

OP was a licensee according to his last thread. There's no Part 4.

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

Surely OP should register as "can't afford to live exactly where I want" rather than homeless.

Op has the option of shares at low cost but just not ones op likes, what about making do till something better comes along ??
What about sleeping on your parents couch for a few weeks and save that rent for a better deposit.
What about move further out into commuter belt and commute ??
What about moving altogether to a county you can find work and accommodation suitable for you in.

This just really explains a lot of the current "homeless" explosion we see. These are people who are choosing to register as homeless because they won't compromise on their choice regarding where they live. I'm not saying no one is homeless, I'm saying its become somehow acceptable for such people to say they are homeless because they can't afford accommodation just exactly where they want it.

Find anything you can afford OP, save and move to something better when you can afford it. It's what generations of people have done, homeless isn't just some thing you say when you can't afford your ideal place to live, that's demeaning on genuinely homeless people.

i said i can't afford to live further away from my job ect at the moment, it's already been suggested i find somewhere thats cheap so i can save up. going homeless was a last resort and i was enquiring about it.
Alot of the shares as i have stated already that were affordable only wanted a monday to friday arrangement which would suit.

Corca Baiscinn

Op has the option of shares at low cost but just not ones op likes, what about making do till something better comes along ??
What about sleeping on your parents couch for a few weeks and save that rent for a better deposit.
What about move further out into commuter belt and commute ??
What about moving altogether to a county you can find work and accommodation suitable for you in.

It'snot as simple as that Brian, re 1, Stephen has the option in that he can apply for a house-share but there are usually far more applicants than places and you may have to turn up to several viewings/auditions and wait to be chosen over other applicants
Re 2. OP has said that his brother, brother's girl-friend and child are already resident in his parent's house so maybe that option isn't on the table.
Re 3 and 4, if Stephen was free of responsibilities these would be sensible options but it seems he is trying to be responsible re sharing the care of his daughter, which will become a lot more difficult the further out he moves. There is also the factor that cheaper rent may not be much help if the cost of commuting to his job goes through the roof.
The thread title re homelessness may be exaggerated for now but I imagine OP is just looking at the worst case scenario if he fails to find anything within his budget in the next three weeks. He asked for info re local authority support, took the advice on board and has said he is willing to take a single room for the present. He also has said re made mistakes re moving out of home before being financially ready but who hasn't made mistakes especially when young? The accommodation situation in Dublin is difficult at most income levels OP so you have my sympathy and good luck with your search!

Bubbaclaus

A person that is homeless by choice is not homeless. Makes me wonder how much the homeless figures are being manipulated.

riclad

There is homeless as in someone who has no where to live and is being evicted.
If your income is low the welfare officer will send you to a hotel, or a hostel, so you can look for a private flat.
if you are working you can book a room in a hotel or hostel and pay x amount per week.
shared rooms are cheaper.
go to www.threshold.ie or crosscare for free advice and help.
put adon buyand sell room wanted, look on rent.ie
google short term accomodation ie

corner of hells

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

A person that is homeless by choice is not homeless. Makes me wonder how much the homeless figures are being manipulated.

I work in homeless services and I've met very few that have made themselves homeless by choice.A few thatcId be suspicious of , but certainly not enough to manipulate any figures.

The OP is not homeless , he's at risk.

Bubbaclaus

corner of hells wrote: »

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

A person that is homeless by choice is not homeless. Makes me wonder how much the homeless figures are being manipulated.

I work in homeless services and I've met very few that have made themselves homeless by choice.A few thatcId be suspicious of , but certainly not enough to manipulate any figures.

The OP is not homeless , he's at risk.

At risk of what? Certainly not homelessness.

corner of hells

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

At risk of what? Certainly not homelessness.

Homelessness.He's struggling to find accommodation.


Interestingly enough even couch surfing meets criteria for being homeless.

There's more and more economic homeless at the moment.Lots of young men working struggling to find long-term accomodation , staying in hostels , sleeping in vans etc .

Hazydays123

corner of hells wrote: »

Homelessness.He's struggling to find accommodation.


Interestingly enough even couch surfing meets criteria for being homeless.

There's more and more economic homeless at the moment.Lots of young men working struggling to find long-term accomodation , staying in hostels , sleeping in vans etc .

We're all somewhat 'at risk' in this extremely defective market. I rent and have a dog. If my current (very understanding) landlord wanted me out tomorrow, i'd have a really hard time finding somewhere else that would accept a pet. So I could easily become 'homeless' even on a high salary.
I've heard of landlords who don't want tenants with children too.

Even if you have the requisite 400/500 per month for a houseshare, you're very much depending on the existing tenants deciding that you're financially stable and a good fit for the house.

There's a real lack of options out there for anybody who doesn't fit a certain mould. Basically unless you have a very uncomplicated and sterile life, you're seen as hassle.

_Brian

corner of hells wrote: »

I work in homeless services and I've met very few that have made themselves homeless by choice.A few thatcId be suspicious of , but certainly not enough to manipulate any figures.

The OP is not homeless , he's at risk.

At risk of choosing to be homeless.

Deciding that some accommodation isn't for them and choosing to register as homeless isn't risk, it's a comsious decision.

Op has options, options to have a home, maybe not their ideal, but something. It took me and my wife 15 years to have the first house we wanted. We scrimped and saved and put up with crappy conditions and being overcharged for what we were getting. I commuted 100 miles a day for 13 years to get the house I wanted. Choosing to roll over and register as homeless as some sort of protest and not being able to afford the ideal home straight off is just becoming too acceptable in this country.

corner of hells

_Brian wrote: »

At risk of choosing to be homeless.

Deciding that some accommodation isn't for them and choosing to register as homeless isn't risk, it's a comsious decision.

Op has options, options to have a home, maybe not their ideal, but something. It took me and my wife 15 years to have the first house we wanted. We scrimped and saved and put up with crappy conditions and being overcharged for what we were getting. I commuted 100 miles a day for 13 years to get the house I wanted. Choosing to roll over and register as homeless as some sort of protest and not being able to afford the ideal home straight off is just becoming too acceptable in this country.

Maybe I'm a bit off on a tangent on this one.

Under no circumstances would I suggest anyone make themselves homeless because of being unable to get accommodation of thier choice.I've met very few individuals and only one couple that I felt were trying to manipulate the services provided and all bad one individual ended up worse off.

The only real suggestion Id make to the OP is get a housing needs assessment in his local authority.

Based on what the OP posted and I stand corrected it looked to me he was at risk of becoming homeless.

68 lost souls

Holiday...tv and broadband...OP I feel sorry for you being in the situation you are in but for god sakes look at your outgoings before you sign up to anything else

If you are in such a tight spot think do you need paid tv? Even if you feel you need Internet then go for a broadband only package as it will reduce your expenses greatly and you can use free to air and also streaming services from your broadband like rte player and other options.

you may have to be in accommodation that is a bit smaller or not in as an ideal location as you desire but it will only be temporary if you can get a handle on your spending

conf101

riclad wrote: »

You have to under a certain income to get rent allowance and be on the housing list.
i think the threshold for a couple is 79k income to be eligible for social housing.
quote ,

Is that right? 79K is a very decent income for a couple, that seems very high? So if you earn under 79k per annum as a couple you're entitled to social housing?

Michael D Not Higgins

conf101 wrote: »

Is that right? 79K is a very decent income for a couple, that seems very high? So if you earn under 79k per annum as a couple you're entitled to social housing?

The maximum depends on the local authority. The limits are net income, so a married couple in Dublin with no children can have a combined max of ~43k gross to apply.

Your need is then assessed for priority. A couple with no children on 43k are going to be at the bottom of the list while a family of 6 with 30k income are certainly going to be prioritised much more.

riclad

Every one on the housing list has points, you get points for medical reasons,
how many kids you have ,are you on disability allowance ,various reasons.
MY friend was told you need 2 kids to get a house in dublin .
she has one child ,she got a 2bed apartment after 8 years on the list .
Look in shops ,supermarkets , room for rent, house sharing room etc
put up ad in tesco ,single person room wanted to rent.
my other friend got a house in drogheda as a single person, no kids as he is on disability .

Bubbaclaus

Just looked up the income limits for social housing and apparently even I qualify. I find that outrageous.

Now to go apply...

Michael D Not Higgins

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Just looked up the income limits for social housing and apparently even I qualify. I find that outrageous.

Now to go apply...

And wait forever for a house unless you have some condition or a bunch of kids. There's nothing wrong with a high threshold, the most needy on the list are prioritised and a single man on 40k is unlikely to ever be offered social housing due to newcomers with greater need.

fussyonion

Riclad, I thought they did away with points? I know SDCC did.