Roscommon vs Clare, Pearse Stadium Saturday 23rd

Galwayps

I just noticed that the football has qualifier has been fixed for pearse stadium this Saturday at 3pm . Surely this is lunacy taking into account the time of year and arts festival . Even though you may only get a crowd of 10000 it will bring the city to a standstill for a few hours

Mrs OBumble

Yes. Lunacy. Get Away with Anything strikes again.

flazio

Only neutral ground available as Tullamore is hosting another match and any other grounds would inconvenience one or the other set of supporters.

connemara man

Should have been Tuam easier to get to for both sets of fans and saves them coming into the city.

Think of all the extra icecream that will be sold.

flazio

connemara man wrote: »

Should have been Tuam easier to get to for both sets of fans and saves them coming into the city.

Tuam hasn't been used for Championship clashes for years.

ronnie3585

This is insanity. The traffic as a result of the bog ball game last Sunday was a complete disaster and locked the city down from hours. I live 5 mins from the stadium and it was almost impossible to get home, the amount of brain dead muck savages that parked illegally on Maunsell's Road meant there was no room for busses or trucks to get through. Illegal parking is chronic every time there's a game in the stadium, the guards just turn a blind eye to it and the GAA want nothing to do with it.

youngrun

There should be a traffic management plan in this and other big games, similar to the races.

Sconsey

Yes there should be a traffic management plan, there should be sufficient parking, there should be park and ride facilities...all part of the planning permission for the stadium. But you know, it's the GAA, amateur organisation. City council turn a blind eye, cops turn a blind eye, the result is the traffic chaos.

Mrs OBumble

Sconsey wrote: »

Yes there should be a traffic management plan, there should be sufficient parking, there should be park and ride facilities...all part of the planning permission for the stadium. But you know, it's the GAA, amateur organisation. City council turn a blind eye, cops turn a blind eye, the result is the traffic chaos.

Can I try re-phrasing that for you?


There is a traffic management plan, there is sufficient parking, there are park and ride facilities. This was all part of the planning permission for the stadium.

But there's no implementation of the plan. And no consequences for the continued lack of implementation. Because .. it's the Get Away with Anything.

chickencurry02

Looking forward to this game. Clare will give the Rossies a good game.

biko

Thanks for the heads up OP, I'll stay away from the city centre Saturday.

connemara man

flazio wrote: »

Tuam hasn't been used for Championship clashes for years.

Not for Galway. And even more reason for it to be used. There's little chance Pearce studium will be full.

And getting to Salthill is a nightmare. Add in the fact there are students in Connemara and I think it's visit weekend and the arts festival Galway is gonna be a carpark

Happyilylost

connemara man wrote:

Not for Galway. And even more reason for it to be used. There's little chance Pearce studium will be full.

connemara man wrote:

And getting to Salthill is a nightmare. Add in the fact there are students in Connemara and I think it's visit weekend and the arts festival Galway is gonna be a carpark

Due to health and safety changes Tuam is no longer a viable option for Inter County Gaa games. It's seriously lacking in facilities. Good for businesses in around Salthill. Last Sunday week was the only Gaa Championship game they would of got all summer.

Moo Moo Land

Yeah Tuam needs upgrading and there is a plan in place to achieve that but it will take time and more fundraising.

This is a novel pairing and I might well go myself. I am not sure you will get 10,000 at this though. Roscommon have been to Pearse and McHale already over the past 2 weeks. I'd be thinking ~5,000 depending on weather. You never know with those mad Clare people

spurshero

Jesus people never stop moaning

?Cee?view

spurshero wrote: »

Jesus people never stop moaning

When there's cars abandoned illegally and dangerously yet the parking spaces in St Endas which cost just a fiver are half empty, you can hardly blame people

Sconsey

spurshero wrote: »

Jesus people never stop moaning

Jesus, you are moaning about people moaning

biko

County fordners comin' over here and taking all our stadiums

irish_major

Sconsey wrote: »

Jesus, you are moaning about people moaning

Well you actually just moaned about people moaning about people moaning.

Sconsey

irish_major wrote: »

Well you actually just moaned about people moaning about people moaning.

True, but I was an original moaner, so my moaner status has not changed. Are you moaning about my moaning?

Happyilylost

?Cee?view wrote:

When there's cars abandoned illegally and dangerously yet the parking spaces in St Endas which cost just a fiver are half empty, you can hardly blame people

Problems caused around matches in salthill usually occur with pretty big crowds. Twenty thousand plus. This game will have nothing like that so I would think it would have little impact on traffic. Galway played Derry last year on the Saturday of the Arts Festival (Kodaline played that evening) and it had minimal affect on things.

thebackbar

Galwayps wrote: »

I just noticed that the football has qualifier has been fixed for pearse stadium this Saturday at 3pm . Surely this is lunacy taking into account the time of year and arts festival . Even though you may only get a crowd of 10000 it will bring the city to a standstill for a few hours

This match will attract tops 5,000.

In regards to parking, until the Guards enforce the rules people will continue to park illegally, there is very little the GAA can do about that.

It doesn't say much for Galway City that it can't host an event of this size.

spurshero

thebackbar wrote: »

This match will attract tops 5,000.

In regards to parking, until the Guards enforce the rules people will continue to park illegally, there is very little the GAA can do about that.

It doesn't say much for Galway City that it can't host an event of this size.

It can host it no problem . Anything that brings a few thousand to the city is s good thing

Sconsey

spurshero wrote: »

It can host it no problem .

Ehhh no it can't, not if there is a big crowd. Based on the traffic problems of the last big match and all other previous big matches. What are you basing your statement on?

spurshero wrote: »

Anything that brings a few thousand to the city is s good thing.

I disagree.

Moo Moo Land

Sconsey wrote: »

Ehhh no it can't, not if there is a big crowd. Based on the traffic problems of the last big match and all other previous big matches. What are you basing your statement on?

Big if.

Connacht championship matches involving Galway draw big crowds. This is a qualifier.

OP suggested 10,000. I think that's too high. Myself and others have suggested 5000 or less. In comparison, there were 25,000 at the Galway-Roscommon game and it was an awful wet day.

Galway will survive.

Happyilylost

Sconsey wrote:

Ehhh no it can't, not if there is a big crowd. Based on the traffic problems of the last big match and all other previous big matches. What are you basing your statement on?

Traffic leaving every stadium after you have a big crowd is the same. I've been an hour in traffic leaving Castlebar, Thurles, Semple Stadium. It's not a new phenomenon. If you dump twenty or thirty thousand people on a city/town on any given day it will struggle to get people around.

I think people are overreacting here.
How many Championship games are played in Salthill each summer?
Complete guess work, would make me say <5
Thats 5 days of poor traffic, but a whole lot of money brought into the area.

Whats worse, 5 days of Sunday traffic jams vs boarded up shops?
We deal with horrific traffic in Galway anyway, so it's not something new. Took me an age to get home last night. Should we complain about the Arts Festival, and the sun?

Galway just got named the European City of Culture. We need to be hosting more events, not complaining about the events that we host.

If the major problem people have, is the parking system, well complaints should be made to councilors, guards, etc.
If people aren't using the car parks, we should be questioning the pricing structure.
Someone said it's €5 to park in Endas, and it's only half full. Maybe the prices needed to be lowered

beach_walker

Deleted User wrote: »

I think people are overreacting here.
How many Championship games are played in Salthill each summer?
Complete guess work, would make me say <5
Thats 5 days of poor traffic, but a whole lot of money brought into the area.

It varies but 5 is way out there. Last year there were 2. None in 2014 (well no football, I have a feeling there may have been one hurling match). Looks like this year will be 2 only.

Moo Moo Land

beach_walker wrote: »

It varies but 5 is way out there. Last year there were 2. None in 2014 (well no football, I have a feeling there may have been one hurling match). Looks like this year will be 2 only.

2013 was exceptional with 4 football games. Galway lost to Mayo in Salthill in 1st round and then were lucky enough to get 3 qualifiers at home (Tipp, Waterford, Armagh). The attendances for those qualifier games were very low.

Sconsey

Happyilylost wrote: »

Traffic leaving every stadium after you have a big crowd is the same. I've been an hour in traffic leaving Castlebar, Thurles, Semple Stadium. It's not a new phenomenon. If you dump twenty or thirty thousand people on a city/town on any given day it will struggle to get people around.

It's still a problem though when the authorities do feck all to address the problem. I'd say there were a lot of Rossies that spent way more than one hour trying to get of Galway the other day. Pearse stadium seems to be becoming notorious among GAA fans as a sh1te location.

Deleted User wrote: »

<snip>I think people are overreacting here.
Whats worse, 5 days of Sunday traffic jams vs boarded up shops?

I think you are making some fairly huge leaps in your reasoning if you think no game implies shops close down.

Deleted User wrote: »

<snip>
If the major problem people have, is the parking system, well complaints should be made to councilors, guards, etc.

Halleluah! that's the problem I have (probably same as most of the 'moaners'), I have complained to the GAA, to the council and to the cops, but as mentioned earlier, none of them give a crap.
If the Pearse stadium management gave a crap they would implement the traffic plans they are obliged to implement.
If the council gave a crap they would force the stadium to implement the plans they are obliged to put in place.
If the cops gave a crap they would implement the traffic management plans that are included in the planning permission for the stadium.

spurshero

Maybe we should cancel Galway races next week . Sure it will ring big crowds causing traffic chaos 🙄🙄🙄🙄

what_traffic

Why don't GAA County Boards run Bus Coaches for these events. Would take a lot of cars off the roads into approach of City and the City itself. Well run and organised is the GAA. If they picked 6 of largest Clubs in Roscommon and have 3-4 buses run per club. Same goes for Clare.

Happyilylost

what_traffic wrote:

Why don't GAA County Boards run Bus Coaches for these events. Would take a lot of cars off the roads into approach of City and the City itself. Well run and organised is the GAA. If they picked 6 of largest Clubs in Roscommon and have 3-4 buses run per club. Same goes for Clare.

This is done by most counties. Galway have two supporters buses going to Thurles on Sunday. Footballers run the same idea. Unfortunately people are fond of their cars and it's near impossible to change that attitude. Galway County board and the council did try to run a park and ride from Galway airport to Pearse Stadium for Mayo match unfortunately it turned into chaos. But even with that it was the right idea and should be done again.

what_traffic

Happyilylost wrote: »

This is done by most counties. Galway have two supporters buses going to Thurles on Sunday. Footballers run the same idea. Unfortunately people are fond of their cars and it's near impossible to change that attitude. Galway County board and the council did try to run a park and ride from Galway airport to Pearse Stadium for Mayo match unfortunately it turned into chaos. But even with that it was the right idea and should be done again.

The Scale needs to be much larger. 2 Buses is only 100. Need 20 Buses just for 1000 supporters.
Could be incentive's by giving Cheaper match tickets for those who take these "Club" buses?

ronnie3585

Sconsey wrote: »

Halleluah! that's the problem I have (probably same as most of the 'moaners'), I have complained to the GAA, to the council and to the cops, but as mentioned earlier, none of them give a crap.
If the Pearse stadium management gave a crap they would implement the traffic plans they are obliged to implement.
If the council gave a crap they would force the stadium to implement the plans they are obliged to put in place.
If the cops gave a crap they would implement the traffic management plans that are included in the planning permission for the stadium.

I have written to the Superintentent twice and the council on this matter, without as much as an acknowledgement. You're absolutely right, there is no appetite from either institution to tackle this problem.

spurshero wrote: »

Maybe we should cancel Galway races next week . Sure it will ring big crowds causing traffic chaos 🙄🙄🙄🙄

No. The Races are a good example of how a well implemented and executed traffic management plan can work. Galway used to completely shut down several years ago due to the races. This changed with the implementation of a new traffic management plan four or five years ago which has, by and large, been working very well.

I have no doubt that if I parked illegally in the vicinity of Ballybrit next week I would get a ticket or be towed away. Yet, thousands of good mass going GAA folk can abandon their cars wherever they like regardless of local residents, road safety or the gridlock they cause. The double standard is sickening.

Happyilylost

what_traffic wrote:

The Scale needs to be much larger. 2 Buses is only 100. Need 20 Buses just for 1000 supporters. Could be incentive's by giving Cheaper match tickets for those who take these "Club" buses?

It's getting people away from their cars that's the problem. If the demand was there more buses would be run. And at €10 it's great value. Trying to change attitudes is the problem.

Mrs OBumble

Happyilylost wrote: »

It's getting people away from their cars that's the problem. If the demand was there more buses would be run. And at €10 it's great value. Trying to change attitudes is the problem.

A good crop of parking tickets would help.

Actually, seeing as this weekend's match involves blow-ins on both sides, perhaps the guards will be prepared to show a bit of bold-gendarmerie spirit and issue some.

Moo Moo Land

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

A good crop of parking tickets would help.

Actually, seeing as this weekend's match involves blow-ins on both sides, perhaps the guards will be prepared to show a bit of bold-gendarmerie spirit and issue some.

A lot of Roscommon and Clare people live in Galway city and county. Some of them are even "nice"

Ye are fighting the wrong battle here lads. This qualifier wont be anything like Galway v Roscommon/Mayo.

Utopia Parkway

Salthill gets very few championship games each year (involving Galway or otherwise) in comparison to other GAA grounds around the country. Mainly due to it's location right on the west coast. Having a qualifier game there like Roscommon v Clare this weekend is a rarity. Unfortunately the stadium is in a far from ideal location slap bang in the middle of a housing estate on the opposite side of the city to where the vast majority of match going supporters will be arriving from.

Now I don't live around Pearse Stadium but I can't imagine there are that many big games there over the course of the entire year that it would annoy me. If it was a regular occurrence then sure.

what_traffic

Moo Moo Land wrote: »

Ye are fighting the wrong battle here lads. This qualifier wont be anything like Galway v Roscommon/Mayo.

Would not agree, perhaps focus on this match is not a good example based on projected numbers. However it us an issue that does not just apply to Pearse Stadium. Any big event should have Traffic Management Plans and holders should be encouraged to use the most efficient forms of transport.

El_Dangeroso

Well was it traffic-mageddon in the end or no? Am at home fighting a cold so haven't ventured out to see myself.

gordongekko

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Well was it traffic-mageddon in the end or no? Am at home fighting a cold so haven't ventured out to see myself.

No it was grand.

snubbleste

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Well was it traffic-mageddon in the end or no? Am at home fighting a cold so haven't ventured out to see myself.

Yes it was.
Entire section of BnaT inbound from Tuam Rd to Kirwan was jammed at one point. Garda had to come and direct traffic at Bodkin as a result. Oh and all the usual illegal parking all over the place.
Same on DublinRd -> LAtalia ->LwrSalthill

J.pilkington

snubbleste wrote: »

Yes it was.
Entire section of BnaT inbound from Tuam Rd to Kirwan was jammed at one point. Garda had to come and direct traffic at Bodkin as a result. Oh and all the usual illegal parking all over the place.
Same on DublinRd -> LAtalia ->LwrSalthill

Mother of god, that sounds disastrous, better ring Jo, and tell me listener were dogs trapped in the cars too?

Maybe we could kill 2 birds with the one stone and knock Pierse stadium and build social housing there

stampydmonkey

J.pilkington wrote: »

Mother of god, that sounds disastrous, better ring Jo, and tell me listener were dogs trapped in the cars too?

Maybe we could kill 2 birds with the one stone and knock Pierse stadium and build social housing there

Social housing in G4. You must be joking! Traffic was grand yesterday

thebackbar

snubbleste wrote: »

Yes it was.
Entire section of BnaT inbound from Tuam Rd to Kirwan was jammed at one point. Garda had to come and direct traffic at Bodkin as a result. Oh and all the usual illegal parking all over the place.
Same on DublinRd -> LAtalia ->LwrSalthill

attendance at the match was 5,000 plus change ... the only congestion that there was in salthill yesterday was out in the bay !

Ludikrus

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Traffic was grand yesterday

No it wasn't, it was a mess. Long delays at Menlo when I was there at 2pm. Lots of comments on Twitter yesterday about the traffic.

J.pilkington

Ludikrus wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was a mess. Long delays at Menlo when I was there at 2pm. Lots of comments on Twitter yesterday about the traffic.

Obviously exclusively because of the match seeing as Galway traffic is never bad on a typical sat afternoon

I'm sure the traffic comments from match attendees are Clare and Roscommon fans who don't normally frequent Galway

Ludikrus

J.pilkington wrote: »

Obviously exclusively because of the match"

Correct. It was Clare and Roscommon reg cars all around me in traffic. And judging by the condition of the cars and the amount of sh1te hanging off them they could only be GAA supporters.

J.pilkington

Ludikrus wrote: »

Correct. It was Clare and Roscommon reg cars all around me in traffic. And judging by the condition of the cars and the amount of sh1te hanging off them they could only be GAA supporters.

Nice attitude, makes me believe you less now.

It always amazes me that today a town in Tipperary is welcoming supporters from 5 different counties, their town is in lockdown mode(stadium in the town) for 6 hours and yet there is no whinging. Similar situation for tens of other cities / towns multiple times each year. Is Galway too good for these gaa supporters and these stuck up city folk will only accept traffic from a sailing / art event?