Navara cracked chassis

jc bamford

Has anybody had any dealings with Nissan Ireland re cracked chassis in Navara. Apparently Nissan want the problem jeeps 06 and 07, I think, off the road and are prepared to buy them back, but at what price?

gctest50

Seems to be a deal going :

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/nissan-offers-cracked-chassis-deal-to-owners-205826


Nissan offers cracked chassis deal to owners

Nissan Ireland says that it is working directly with the affected Navara customers to include either an upgrade offer to a new 2016 Navara, or repairing the issue at full cost to Nissan or purchasing the vehicle from the customer at the relevant market rates.

Atrocious attempt at engineering though :

gctest50

hth

Trade-ins

Trade-in offers up to €12,000 have been made to those owners who are considering changing from one of the 10-year-old problem vehicles to the new-generation 2016 Navara model.

jc bamford

There was some mention of 'up to €12000 being offered in a trade in for a new Nevara, but I have yet to hear from someone who actually dealt with them. Did not see above post. Anyway a new one would still be out for me. The guy in the dealers said Nissan would buy it back but gave no hint on how much they would go

rolion

Well..heard and read about it but never tought is going to be me...

Today,after a visit to garage to fix something else,they called me and show me the crack and rust in the chassis.

Anyone care to share their experience with Nissan or is going to be a NDA signed on !??

Sheep breeder

Had 07 into the garage on Thursday for a pit of work for doe and found this chassis problem with rust first I heard of it and sick as a dog.
Rang Nissan garage and got a gut in service and asked about the recall and he stated this was urban Mit and basically laughed at me, then rang Nissan Ireland and they sent me to ring a garage in the south east to do check,
Went down yesterday and sales man is suit and pointy shoes took a photo on iPhone from the side of the vehicle and offered me three options,
First a trade against a new navara at 40k, a trade against a car on the forecourt, and last a scrap deal,
The navara is 07 with 150k km on the clock and clean and done no heavy work and offered 6000 on the trade in and was all about selling me a new Nissan at all cost, had the saddle tight on my back,
He gave me a name for a guy in Nissan Ireland to ring as his hands were tied,
Rang Nissan Ireland lots of times during the day and was being sent to a foreign message centre and blood starting to boil at this stage and a guy rang me back at 5 o'clock told him the story and is going to investigate and come back this morning to me???? And told me this is a urban myth about this chassis problem and not a world wide problem as stated on the net.
Learned after a guy in the job has the same problem with his navara 07 and 270k and offered 7.5 k on a trade on a new navara and his is reck from farm work.

Will post if they come back to me today,

CJhaughey

If the Navara hadn't enough bad history with the D22 and D40 engines giving up.
Potential Nissan customers should think long and hard about getting another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmx9MGl7Lo

Nekarsulm

I was told yesterday that Nissan now require you to have owned the Navarra for 18 months, or no deal.

Petereoc

I owned my navara for about 7 months brought it to get a recall on my wheels and the told me it had to scrapped!!told me to phone Nissan Ireland(frank glen)who took about a week to get back to me.he told me 12000 off a new nav or scrap mine 100km on clock like new only giving me 6000!!!!paid 8000for it.he told me it could take months for a chassis they have no idea how long!!!!!bullsh*t.
I demanded a vehicle and got one while they replaced my chassis all in all took about 8 weeks!
It's 7000 for a new chassis and 3500 labour😲all on Nissan of course.as far as I know they won't cover import's from england blaming the salt on roads!since getting mine done Im having starting issue's still on going.

WJHRown

We have an 08 navara thats in good condition and low millage but after getting it back after a service the nissan dealer hinted that the chassis will likley fail the DOE in the spring. were not interested in a new jeep and we have heard of a few people getting new chassis. the dealer replaced a chassis in a jeep not that long ago but tried to convince us that it was a one off and that we neednt bother trying to get one. Has anyone any advice about pushing to get a new chassis.

Petereoc

WJHRown wrote: »

We have an 08 navara thats in good condition and low millage but after getting it back after a service the nissan dealer hinted that the chassis will likley fail the DOE in the spring. were not interested in a new jeep and we have heard of a few people getting new chassis. the dealer replaced a chassis in a jeep not that long ago but tried to convince us that it was a one off and that we neednt bother trying to get one. Has anyone any advice about pushing to get a new chassis.

I was also told this at the start he was pushing me to scrap it and I mean really pusing me! telling me the chassis are impossible to get.
I reckon they're told to say this because it's easier for Nissan and cheaper give you a check and your gone.
In my personal opinion I wouldn't settle for anything less I know of a few been replaced not just one offs.

Sheep breeder

Nissan Ireland are now admitting a problem, the dealers are trying to make hay from this mess offering little money to try rip people off and make a profit.
Why would you put a chassis under a vehicle that needs to be scrapped and gives back axel, clutch, engine trouble and is a heap of scrap.
I waiting to get rid of mine on a trade in.

Grueller

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Nissan Ireland are now admitting a problem, the dealers are trying to make hay from this mess offering little money to try rip people off and make a profit.
Why would you put a chassis under a vehicle that needs to be scrapped and gives back axel, clutch, engine trouble and is a heap of scrap.
I waiting to get rid of mine on a trade in.

Against what though? After the last two navaras being troublesome would you risk another?

ramboraf

https://www.facebook.com/groups/505526562959686/

RebelOC

WHOOPS!
My 2008 Navara just failed its DOE with the chassis rusted to the point that you can easily put a screw driver through sections of it. I brought it back to Nissan and they are "starting" the process of a warranty claim.
Having read the previous forum discussions I'm not looking forward to the process but I have 21 days notice from the DOE center to comply with the required repairs.

Can anybody confirm what offers have been made on 06, 07 or 08 models to date so that I'm armed with other offers that have been done before Nissan try to bury yet another problem Navara with the lowest offer against their warrantee obligations.

Thanks in advance

RebelOC

On the starting issue you mentioned.
I had similar issue with my 2008 Navara. Nissan quoted me a price of €1700 to totally strip out the entire fuel line but still wouldn't confirm that it would fix the problem. I checked out a couple of forum (mainly in Australia) where the issue was extensively discussed and the work around was much simpler. I changed the fuel filter and the primer pump and the problem went away. It is caused by a small amount of air getting into the system when its sitting over night. When you start it in the mornings there is enough fuel in the engine to start but then the air bubble prevents the required fuel to follow through causing it to cut out and then requires repeated starting to force the fuel through. The new filter and primer pump cut out the problem and is a simple fix at a low cost.

I hope this is helpful

hairyairyfairy

anyone know if it is just the Navara or is it also the Pathfinder? thx

doctorchopper

hairyairyfairy wrote: »

anyone know if it is just the Navara or is it also the Pathfinder? thx

Pathfinders are effected too, there doesn't seem to be as many but they are definitely cracking

RebelOC

Guy in DOE center said that he had heard that it was BOTH Navara & Pathfinder but that all he see's in the DOE center are the Navara's as they are commercial vehicles so I would go to your Nissan Garage and ask them to check your chassis to confirm that it is OK (Just to be sure)

BorneTobyWilde

Why not repair chassis and drive on.
It's an easy bit of fabrication .

zoolio

Hi guys,
i am next in queue.

Failed the doe yesterday.
Need to contact Nissan, but i am beepending on the car regarding business.
Has anyone of you experience, how long it takes for buy back or trade in?
Every single day without the car cost me money, can't wait months.
so, anyone some info might?
thanks a lot

RamblingRuairi

Hi folks - can you tell me if this is affecting the new model Navaras as well? I am currently looking at a 161 model but would avoid if there is a chassis issue with these as well.
Cheers, R.

Jim from Cork

RamblingRuairi wrote: »

Hi folks - can you tell me if this is affecting the new model Navaras as well? I am currently looking at a 161 model but would avoid if there is a chassis issue with these as well.
Cheers, R.

Nissan launched the new NP300 Navara in 2016. The newer crewcab model has a multilink suspension rather than the traditional leaf springs (Should be a far superior drive). I would imagine the chassis is somewhat different. Whether it is improved is another matter!
If the example you are looking at is the older model it could be still prone to trouble unless Nissan have addressed the cracking issues at the manufacturing stage.

RamblingRuairi

Jim from Cork wrote: »

Nissan launched the new NP300 Navara in 2016. The newer crewcab model has a multilink suspension rather than the traditional leaf springs (Should be a far superior drive). I would imagine the chassis is somewhat different. Whether it is improved is another matter!
If the example you are looking at is the older model it could be still prone to trouble unless Nissan have addressed the cracking issues at the manufacturing stage.

Thanks Jim - it's the NP300/multilink suspension I'm looking at.

punisher5112

RamblingRuairi wrote: »

Thanks Jim - it's the NP300/multilink suspension I'm looking at.

Nobody can really say as back in 06 08 there were no issues.

Its one of those things they are become cheap and cutting corners from what I can see.

navaralad

Had my Navara checked on 12/12/2016 still no report told now, photos not clear booked in again on Friday 3/3/17.
The response from Nissan go back to your garage as they had not received photos who do you beleive ?

Jack the Stripper

No wonder they are cracking when lads are putting twin or tri axle trailers and drawing cattle. Them crew cabs should have no hitch. Put your tonne of stuff in the back tub and leave it at that.

punisher5112

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

No wonder they are cracking when lads are putting twin or tri axle trailers and drawing cattle. Them crew cabs should have no hitch. Put your tonne of stuff in the back tub and leave it at that.

That has nothing to do with it.

Cheap steal and fabrication.

Its a design fault.
More issues up north and UK due to salt on roads so it shows faster.

Its designed and marketed to pull loads.

Grueller

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

No wonder they are cracking when lads are putting twin or tri axle trailers and drawing cattle. Them crew cabs should have no hitch. Put your tonne of stuff in the back tub and leave it at that.

That's why Hiluxs, Dmaxs, Rangers and L200s of the same vintage are breaking in the middle too.

Jack the Stripper

The rangers and l200s are boiling their tits and cracking heads. Dmax and hilux are 3 litre different league. You would want your head examined putting big load onto the 2.5 version of hilux.

Grueller

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

The rangers and l200s are boiling their tits and cracking heads. Dmax and hilux are 3 litre different league. You would want your head examined putting big load onto the 2.5 version of hilux.

What did Nissan engineers rate them to tow?

doctorchopper

Grueller wrote: »

What did Nissan engineers rate them to tow?

t's not just specifically towing that is causing them to crack They are cracking due to weakened chassis from corrosion. Lots out there that haven't towed a day in their life and are being wrote off because the chassis is completely rotten.

Bryan72

Today I discovered I have the very same issue...

It's nothing to do with towing -> it's a corrosive rust that comes from inside out within the chassis.
Has anybody got their chassis fixed by Nissan? I cant afford any of the other so-called "deals" from Nissan (buyout and/or new car).
Tx

doctorchopper

Bryan72 wrote: »

Today I discovered I have the very same issue...

It's nothing to do with towing -> it's a corrosive rust that comes from inside out within the chassis.
Has anybody got their chassis fixed by Nissan? I cant afford any of the other so-called "deals" from Nissan (buyout and/or new car).
Tx

They won't be providing a replacement chassis, for 1 there are not any available and rumour has it it costs up wards of 10000 for parts and labour to replace it.

punisher5112

As its been stated there is a design fault and its scrap once the chassis goes.

Funny how the model previous suffered catastrophic engine failure. Engine made of chocolate and now the chassis seems to be the same.

I would be extremely worried about driving around in one as imagine how well it will hold up in a collision (not very well).

riverbird

Just had my 07 Pathfinder confirmed to have a corroded chassis. They cant repair cos the chassis’s aren’t made anymore, so waiting on so called “offer”of buy out.... Then its probably solicitor time....

jiggajt

Is this only on the 2005-2010 versions? Probably to early to tell on the newer version.

punisher5112

jiggajt wrote: »

Is this only on the 2005-2010 versions? Probably to early to tell on the newer version.

Seems to be mainly 2006 to 2008 or so. D22 was model before this and had major engine malfunction where hole in block would cause catastrophic failure.

There is no fix for the chassis and I would suggest anyone with one that is rotten to not attempt to drive as your life and others are at serious risk.

sindyn

Hi learned this week my 06 7 seater pathfinders chassis is corroded with rust. Rang Nissan they said I have to nct it again it passed the nct last August !!!!
When it fails I have to talk to Nissan. Customer rights said repair/replace/refund
How long is this mess going to take to fix?

punisher5112

sindyn wrote: »

Hi learned this week my 06 7 seater pathfinders chassis is corroded with rust. Rang Nissan they said I have to nct it again it passed the nct last August !!!!
When it fails I have to talk to Nissan. Customer rights said repair/replace/refund
How long is this mess going to take to fix?

No fix I would suggest bring into nct early and you also may need an engineers report depending.

Solicitor may give them a kick up the.... If ya know what I mean.

Jack the Stripper

Too much girl talk coming into this thread, get it plated and welded before the CVR not the DOE. I have welded numerous land rovers in the past, had a ranger and numerous other scrappers also. It's not rocket science.
Solicitors yea that is a good move not.

punisher5112

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

Too much girl talk coming into this thread, get it plated and welded before the CVR not the DOE. I have welded numerous land rovers in the past, had a ranger and numerous other scrappers also. It's not rocket science.
Solicitors yea that is a good move not.

Hold on they are buying them back for good reason they are rotting from the inside and are extremely dangerous.

Imagine been in a crash or pulling a trailer and it snaps.

Jack the Stripper

Every old Range Rover or Land Rover what ever you call them are botched and repaired and a lot are in commercial daily work.

jeepcj

A lot of them are so far gone there is nothing left to weld

sindyn

punisher5112 wrote: »

No fix I would suggest bring into nct early and you also may need an engineers report depending.

Solicitor may give them a kick up the.... If ya know what I mean.

Hi thanks for the reply. Too many spots to weld and I carry my kids around so wouldn't take a chance with a faulty chassis. NCT next week!!!!

punisher5112

sindyn wrote: »

Hi thanks for the reply. Too many spots to weld and I carry my kids around so wouldn't take a chance with a faulty chassis. NCT next week!!!!

Its a serious safety issue so definitely keep an eye on it.

riverbird

Jack.....you don't know what you're talking about....The chassis on these vehicles are so far gone in some cases as to be 'unrepairable'....period.... If you own an affected vehicle and try and weld it, I wouldn't advise putting your family in it and do motorway speed.
Nissan have made me a buy-back offer for my vehicle, can anyone with the same issue and a buy-back offer message me back please so I know what sort of 'offer' others have received...Cheers

riverbird

Can you message me and let me know what Nissan offered you? They have made me an 'offer' for my '07 Navara and I would obviously like to know what offers others have received. Cheers

punisher5112

Some have said around €7k on buy back. I would be looking for more obviously depending on speck and other extras and so on.

Very dangerous carry on as they know there is a major fault they should be all banned from the road.

wirehairmax

sindyn wrote: »

Hi thanks for the reply. Too many spots to weld and I carry my kids around so wouldn't take a chance with a faulty chassis. NCT next week!!!!

Get onto Nissan straight away. These are a death trap and they are responsible. They have paid out for thousands at this stage. Pm me if you want to know more

docdan

hey guys just got sucked into the shambles that is the nissan navara chassis problems, failed cvrt,had it assessed by local garage and pics sent to the bean counters in nissan..... nothing short of a joke is what i'd call there offer! (she's 06 with low mileage).definatly going down solicitor route they are shafting us