While House Interns: lack of diversity

Calahonda52

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3695505/Why-white-Paul-Ryan-mocked-taking-selfie-100-Republican-interns-not-one-minority.html

"Paul Ryan's recent selfie with more than a hundred Capitol Hill interns has swept the internet - but not for the reason he was hoping.
The GOP speaker posted a picture on Instagram captioned: 'I think this sets a record for the most number of interns in a single selfie.'
But the photo has sparked outrage because the House hopefuls are overwhelmingly white. In fact, just three people of color can be seen in the entire picture of more than 100 interns.
The photograph has been widely mocked online for its 'embarrassing' lack of diversity with commenters even comparing it to a Where's Waldo? puzzle."

No wonder Bill was blown away

CINCLANTFLT

Checks if this is still in AH... thinks of various answers... discounts the racist ones... left with nothing...

Fr_Dougal

White is a colour.

Icemancometh

Those are Capitol Hill interns, not White House interns

You can see the White House interns here, still pretty white, but more reflective of the US overall I'd say.

pickarooney

'The most number'? What kind of mumbo-jumbo is that?

Your Face

If they were mostly of a different skin colour other than white, there wouldn't be a problem.

RWCNT

Your Face wrote: »

If they were mostly of a different skin colour other than white, there wouldn't be a problem.

Good idea.

Your Face

RWCNT wrote: »

Good idea.

Bad idea.

suicide_circus

How many "minorities" applied?

Gwynplaine

This is news, why?

Hans Bricks

White people complaining about too many white people in the white house.

It's stories like these that help remind me that I'm not a self loathing white ****.

Gwynplaine

Why didn't they rename the White House the Black House when Obama moved it? Then rename it the Nut House when Trump gets in.

everlast75

I'll just leave this here...

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

I'll just leave this here...

Jack Nicholson looking well back in the day

pc7

The picture with the crackers for faces made me spit my tea out laughing, very quick.

gctest50

Paul Ryan mocked for selfie with more than 100 House interns - with barely a minority in sight

Isn't that the whole thing of being a minority ? not many around like ?

and it took two of them to write that drivel ?

By Charlie Moore For Mailonline and Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

Galwayguy35

Calahonda52 wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3695505/Why-white-Paul-Ryan-mocked-taking-selfie-100-Republican-interns-not-one-minority.html

"Paul Ryan's recent selfie with more than a hundred Capitol Hill interns has swept the internet - but not for the reason he was hoping.
The GOP speaker posted a picture on Instagram captioned: 'I think this sets a record for the most number of interns in a single selfie.'
But the photo has sparked outrage because the House hopefuls are overwhelmingly white. In fact, just three people of color can be seen in the entire picture of more than 100 interns.
The photograph has been widely mocked online for its 'embarrassing' lack of diversity with commenters even comparing it to a Where's Waldo? puzzle."

No wonder Bill was blown away

Many times it seems if the rumours are true.

emo72

"people of colour". did alan hansen get into trouble on match of the day for calling a player "coloured"? im confused. what is the non offensive way to describe someone who isnt white? i cant keep up with the terms these days.

edit... here it is https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/dec/22/alan-hansen-black-footballers-coloured

riffmongous

This is why a populist nut job like Trump is the only hope of the republican party, the party needs to wise up if it's to have a real future

RedemptionZ

Maybe they were the most deserving candidates?

Quotas that are supposed to represent the population are completely backwards. If the interest isn't there in certain sections of society by all means promote it, but don't just pop in token minorities for the craic.

For example as it is for the most part the lack of African Americans represented that is the issue, how many African Americans are actually applying for these internships and how many of them are suitable qualified (I suppose for an internship it would be how much more impressive are you than the competition)? Yes you can say that African Americans represent X percentage of the population but the reality is that African Americans are poorer and less educated on average than white Americans. This is a huge issue and should be addressed. Shoehorning in African Americans, or any other minority into White House internships doesn't help the majority of black Americans living in ghettos. And the reality which people seem to hate hearing is that at present it's more likely that a white person in the US is more qualified due to on average coming from families with higher incomes and having better education opportunities. Of course it all depends on the person but on average this will be the case.

Now rather than gloss over the actual problems by saying 'hey look we have 30% black in all state jobs' why don't the US actually try to sort out the problems that result in black Americans being at such a disadvantage. Quotas create racial divisions and emphasise the fact that we are different and should be hired based on our ancestoral heritage rather than on us as an individual.

Renegade Mechanic

'Good lord! That is embarrassing- NO diversity !!!wow!'

I've got just the argument for this utter crap.

lertsnim

Outraged has lost its meaning.

reason vs religion

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Maybe they were the most deserving candidates?

Quotas that are supposed to represent the population are completely backwards. If the interest isn't there in certain sections of society by all means promote it, but don't just pop in token minorities for the craic.

For example as it is for the most part the lack of African Americans represented that is the issue, how many African Americans are actually applying for these internships and how many of them are suitable qualified (I suppose for an internship it would be how much more impressive are you than the competition)? Yes you can say that African Americans represent X percentage of the population but the reality is that African Americans are poorer and less educated on average than white Americans. This is a huge issue and should be addressed. Shoehorning in African Americans, or any other minority into White House internships doesn't help the majority of black Americans living in ghettos. And the reality which people seem to hate hearing is that at present it's more likely that a white person in the US is more qualified due to on average coming from families with higher incomes and having better education opportunities. Of course it all depends on the person but on average this will be the case.

Now rather than gloss over the actual problems by saying 'hey look we have 30% black in all state jobs' why don't the US actually try to sort out the problems that result in black Americans being at such a disadvantage. Quotas create racial divisions and emphasise the fact that we are different and should be hired based on our ancestoral heritage rather than on us as an individual.

I suspect you are utterly intransigent in most of your opinions. But...consider this hypothesis: hundred years ago, racism towards Blacks inexplicably disappeares overnight. And you are the president of the US, whose administration has effectively no Blacks above menial grades. Believing, as I'm sure you do, that Blacks are unequivocally fundamentally equal to Whites and any other race, would you still maintain your opposition to quotas? Would you still believe it "creates racial divisions"? (I actually chuckled as I quoted.) Would you not recognise that it serves a far greater purpose than tokenism?

biko

About a quarter should be non-white to reflect the general populous.

Tombi!

mod: TC, next time you open a thread here, add something to it to spark a discussion. AH isn't a place for dumping articles.

RedemptionZ

reason vs religion wrote: »

I suspect you are utterly intransigent in most of your opinions.

I'm not. I don't know why you felt the need to say this. What is the point of discussion of you will not listen to the other side?

But...consider this hypothesis: hundred years ago, racism towards Blacks inexplicably disappeares overnight. And you are the president of the US, whose administration has effectively no Blacks above menial grades. Believing, as I'm sure you do, that Blacks are unequivocally fundamentally equal to Whites and any other race, would you still maintain your opposition to quotas? Would you still believe it "creates racial divisions"? (I actually chuckled as I quoted.) Would you not recognise that it serves a far greater purpose than tokenism?

What kind of straw man hypothesis is that? Of course I believe that they are fundamentally equal to any other race, however if they are not above 'menial' grades they should not simply be hired to fulfill a quota. Why not try to sort out the 'menial' grades? Work from the bottom up.

I do think there are times when racial quotas can be helpful when there is widespread institutional racism but it should be viewed as temporary and shouldn't be used to paper over the cracks that a large portion of African Americans are still at a huge disadvantage in life. Let's say there's more black interns in the White House because of quotas. How does this help the situation of the average black American growing up in poverty?

Of course it will create racial division. The extent of the division is up for the debate.

AllGunsBlazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuK-EBkcww

newacc2015

biko wrote: »

About a quarter should be non-white to reflect the general populous.

A quarter could be latino and you wouldnt be able to tell. Not all Latinos are dark skinned.

No one has mentioned that DC is ridiculously expensive to live in and I imagine this is an unpaid internship. I seriously doubt there is a single person in that photo whose Family earn under $100k a year. Income inequality is often a bigger problem than race in the US

kneemos

Maybe some of those interns identify as a minority group.

darkpagandeath

pickarooney wrote: »

'The most number'? What kind of mumbo-jumbo is that?

It's like More better ?

reason vs religion

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I'm not. I don't know why you felt the need to say this. What is the point of discussion of you will not listen to the other side?

What kind of straw man hypothesis is that? Of course I believe that they are fundamentally equal to any other race, however if they are not above 'menial' grades they should not simply be hired to fulfill a quota. Why not try to sort out the 'menial' grades? Work from the bottom up.

I do think there are times when racial quotas can be helpful when there is widespread institutional racism but it should be viewed as temporary and shouldn't be used to paper over the cracks that a large portion of African Americans are still at a huge disadvantage in life. Let's say there's more black interns in the White House because of quotas. How does this help the situation of the average black American growing up in poverty?

Of course it will create racial division. The extent of the division is up for the debate.

But I engaged with you. And in a far more amenable way than you.

I have no reason at all to believe you are racist and consequently, as I said, don't in any way believe you are.

I don't believe it is a straw man argument. I don't even believe it is an argument; just a hypothesis to test your position.

Few, if any, would argue that quotas in themselves would correct for the many disadvantages African Americans face. But to, conversely, say that quotas should form no part of the solution - that Blacks should continue to push against (albeit, ever decreasing) barriers - seems misguided in the extreme to me.

pickarooney

newacc2015 wrote: »

A quarter could be latino and you wouldnt be able to tell. Not all Latinos are dark skinned.

No one has mentioned that DC is ridiculously expensive to live in and I imagine this is an unpaid internship. I seriously doubt there is a single person in that photo whose Family earn under $100k a year. Income inequality is often a bigger problem than race in the US

White people are a minority in Washington. The black population is over 50%.

Capt'n Midnight

Well it's not called the White House for nothing :pac:




Pretty sure you'd find most are WASP so it's not just a matter of skin colour.
Mainly because of money and power and connections I'd imagine being an intern there is a very exclusive club.

Jaggo

I think there is nothing here to see really,

I think interns have to pay c$200,000 to become an intern and then work for free. I am sure if any minority person with a spare wad of cash wanders up they too will get a job!

riclad

In certain job,s you need to be well off to get an internship.
You need to know someone, to go to the right school,to come from the right backround.
to be able to afford to live on a low wage and pay rent in a certain area .
You intern at company x, then you can use that experience to get a real job.
OF course this discriminates against working class people,
Also in the us many students have large debts to pay off .
America has a class system ,its just not so visible as the uk,
which is based on your accent or did you go to a private school .
No one thinks the republican party is a beacon of diversity .
Why would someone pay 200k for an internship?
you could go to harvard for that .