Could the Irish military pull off a coup

jimmy blevins

If the military here decided it's time for enda to go would they be capable of carrying out a successful coup d'etat.

JustTheOne

Sigh.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

You'd have to pull them out of the pub first.

BoJack Horseman

jimmy blevins wrote: »

If the military here decided it's time for enda to go would they be capable of carrying out a successful coup d'etat.

With the civil police force almost entirely unarmed, yes.

Strumms

well they had their chance with the Irish water debacle. Didn't see one tank in Jobstown or Edenmore. Disappointing.

kneemos

Sure,if they follow EU directive 925-9B.

Fratton Fred

No chance. Dublin corporation clampers would have them disabled in no time.

lc180

I read the title as 'pull off a cow'.....

This thread is a total let down.

topmanamillion

Those lads are barely able to pull on their boots never mind pull off a coup.

Everyone I know in the army says they are there for the craic and they regularly get to do a giant game of hiding to seek in mountains and forests.

anothernight

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_Brian

jimmy blevins wrote: »

If the military here decided it's time for enda to go would they be capable of carrying out a successful coup d'etat.

In fairness id say a few spotty teenagers with rotten eggs would intimidate Enda enough to go.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

topmanamillion wrote: »

Those lads are barely able to pull on their boots never mind pull off a coup.

Everyone I know in the army says they are there for the craic and they regularly get to do a giant game of hiding to seek in mountains and forests.

Bunch of wasters. Anyone I know in the "army" is a raging alcoholic loser.

Any group of people could stage a coup in Ireland. Majority of country probably wouldn't care.

TOEJOE

I have my brush over my shoulder where do we start?.

YFlyer

As long as it be finished by tea time.

Charles Babbage

The only organisation capable of a coup is the GAA.

artanevilla

If you can convince our Defence Forces to fire upon their own citizens (i.e, family, friends, neighbours etc...) go ahead.

Nemesis......

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The only organisation capable of a coup is the GAA.

They'll have to be watched so

The turkey thread has a 404 message!!!

Giacomo McGubbin

jimmy blevins wrote: »

If the military here decided it's time for enda to go would they be capable of carrying out a successful coup d'etat.

I dount there's any of them thick enough.
You'd wan't to be some ejit to want to be in charge of Ireland.

Sciprio

Not at chance they could pull off something like that. They don't even have proper equipement to maintain something like that. No decent aircraft,No tanks(Scorpion light "Tanks" don't count" and their mothers might pull the ear off them and the fishing patrols are in europe providing a ferry service.

Tombi!

Bold Yin wrote: »

Bunch of wasters. Anyone I know in the "army" is a raging alcoholic loser.

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Gatling

Strumms wrote: »

Didn't see one tank in Jobstown or Edenmore.

That's because we don't have Tanks here

Realt Dearg Sec

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The only organisation capable of a coup is the GAA.

I have trouble mobilising fifteen junior hurlers for a match on a Sunday morning.

Gatling

It's easily doable if the rank and file decided to do it ,
Not a lot the government could do to stop them really ,
Other than a call to Teresa may asking for some for some assistance

testicles

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Realt Dearg Sec

testicles wrote: »

What's a millitery? Is it a collection of mill workers? I wouldn't think they'd be bright enough to pull off a coup.

Aren't you the clever one?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Enda Kenny will be remembered in history as being one of the greatest leaders of this country.

A gentle, noble and honorable man.

diomed

I see plenty of dark green vehicles on the M7 near Naas. I thought they might be practicing for a coup, a lightning dash to Dublin to take over the Dail.

Fleawuss

anothernight wrote: »

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And?

rafatoni

Would they use Ryanair planes in this coup?

Fleawuss

The answer is yes they could easily seize buildings and imprison ministers. Would it last is the question? No. The army would split as it did in Civil War era over whether the army or parliament would rule. We are lucky since that the army has a very clear understanding of its place in Irish democracy.

Boscoirl

It's the FCA you have to watch out for. Dem and the civil defence

And don't forget the Garda Reserve

privateBeavis

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The only organisation capable of a coup is the GAA.

No that would end with a draw.

Winterlong

One of the great things about being a supposed neutral country is that we have a piss weak army that has not enough personnel, weapons or respect to pull of anything more than a roadblock.

Giacomo McGubbin

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The only organisation capable of a coup is the GAA.

They pulled that off a long time ago

Eowyn221

Strumms wrote: »

well they had their chance with the Irish water debacle. Didn't see one tank in Jobstown or Edenmore. Disappointing.

Probably to do with the army not owning a single tank.

Gbear

I think we'd largely let them at it.

Our population is fairly easy going because Ireland is quite nice - possibly the easiest and most comfortable country to live in in the world. No nasty animals, moderate weather, moderate politics (these days at any rate), low crime, few guns. It's pretty sound.

It's not like Turkey, which is a ****hole run by an autocratic lunatic dickhead.

If they started inconveniencing us too much we might eventually get up off our arses, but the EU would probably come in and be all "Ah here lads, will yis stop" before then.

Giacomo McGubbin

While the IMF were in charge of Ireland, they got the country back on its feet when they stopped the corruption for a while. It'll sink back down to where it was though.

Two Tone

anothernight wrote: »

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Aye, not really a great understanding of what a coup is or what conditions result in one.

People who say Enda is this monster are hilarious. A lot just say it because he's a politician and it's "the thing to say" though.

myshirt

If a single car crash on the M50 can manage to shut the whole city down, I think it would be piss simple for any reasonably organised military coup to be a success.

Two Tone

myshirt wrote: »

If a single car crash on the M50 can manage to shut the whole city down

If that happened indeed, but it wouldn't.

Calahonda52

jimmy blevins wrote: »

If the military here decided it's time for enda to go would they be capable of carrying out a successful coup d'etat.

No as they would not hear a thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_deafness_claims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys

Wanderer78

Giacomo McGubbin wrote:

While the IMF were in charge of Ireland, they got the country back on its feet when they stopped the corruption for a while. It'll sink back down to where it was though.

I suggest some more research into the imf, they ain't the saviours you think they are!

crashadder

Gbear wrote: »

I think we'd largely let them at it.

Our population is fairly easy going because Ireland is quite nice - possibly the easiest and most comfortable country to live in in the world. No nasty animals, moderate weather, moderate politics (these days at any rate), low crime, few guns. It's pretty sound.

It's not like Turkey, which is a ****hole run by an autocratic lunatic dickhead.

If they started inconveniencing us too much we might eventually get up off our arses, but the EU would probably come in and be all "Ah here lads, will yis stop" before then.

stopped reading after moderate weather

maudgonner

testicles wrote: »

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Actually flour mill workers would know quite a lot about explosions, since flour particles dispersed in air can go boom with quite devastating effect.

I'm not sure how they could weaponise this, but I reckon mill workers are smarter than you suggest and will find a way...

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness id say a few spotty teenagers with rotten eggs would intimidate Enda enough to go.

In fairness they havent so far. Though its as fair a description of the usual rabble as any.

Giacomo McGubbin

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I suggest some more research into the imf, they ain't the saviours you think they are!

I have and they did. But don't panic it's back to corruption combined with incompetence as usual now.

end of the road

in answer to the op question, absolutely they could.
many may not know it or think it, but our boys are very well trained and are to a high standard and capability.

From what I gather, Ireland has some difficulty in attracting intelligent recruits. In the United States and the United Kingdom, the military tends to be perceived as a rewarding career option for bright young men & women. The Ivy League universities, especially Yale, have sizeable numbers of army veterans and future cadets. They even run Reserve Officer Training programs for undergraduates in the Ivy League colleges, as well as at Oxford and Cambridge. Cambridge even has an Air Squadron.

In Ireland, people would regard the Army as rather a strange career path for an intellectually gifted student, or any university student, for that matter.

I think this is reflected in public perceptions of the military: handy enough at manual work & accompanying cash-in-transit, but you wouldn't necessarily want to give them too much scope to fuck up at home.

There's a similar enough problem with the Gardai, but I have to say I generally find they have excellent communication skills, and are probably the most helpful, friendliest police force I've ever encountered.

Barry Badrinath

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

From what I gather, Ireland has some difficulty in attracting intelligent recruits.

And where exactly did you gather this information?

What is your experience of the military or the knowledge of what it entails to soldier in any military?