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Existential Angst and questions you want answers for

  • 15-07-2016 8:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭


    Do you ever look up at the Sun and think, omg wow, you are 5 billion years old . What a majestic entity

    And wonder why humans worry and fret so much the majority of our lives when we are just meaningless scum in comparison?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    The universe is expanding.
    What is it expanding into...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The universe is expanding.
    What is it expanding into...?

    This always ****s me up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    ... when we are just meaningless scum in comparison?

    How does the wonder of the universe render mankind all scum?

    Bizarre logic and a sad reflection on the inability of some to see that all life and existence is a marvel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭badabing106


    How does the wonder of the universe render mankind all scum?

    Bizarre logic and a sad reflection on the inability of some to see that all life and existence is a marvel.
    I meant individually, we are all less than pond scum in comparison to an entity like the Sun.

    There are no limits on what Mankind can achieve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I meant individually, we are all less than pond scum in comparison to an entity like the Sun.

    There are no limits on what Mankind can achieve

    But we're not any less. We are more than a chemical reaction or the death throws of a nearby star. We hold all the elements of that same sun and make then function with logic, emotion, invention etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    I meant individually, we are all less than pond scum in comparison to an entity like the Sun.

    There are no limits on what Mankind can achieve
    Well even Sun will end.

    But if anything is certain it's that nothing in the Universe is static / eg everything constantly transforms from one form to another it seems...

    iincluding us..
    including Sun..



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    How the hell did the Egyptians build the pyramids with such precision and intricacy?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Burial. wrote: »
    How the hell did the Egyptians build the pyramids with such precision and intricacy?
    The precision is the "easy" bit, the heavy lifting the harder(though pretty explainable). EG if you want to level the site with extreme precision, simples. Level it by eye, then build a low dam and fill the area with water, carve everything down so it's the same depth and you have an "uncannily" level pice of ground.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    I want some of what youse are smoking please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,032 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Who gave the planning permission for the Death Star?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    How is it that I, a regular joe who struggles to pay Dublin rents, who will never own a home, who has a relatively low household income, am actually one of the wealthiest people on earth?

    The divide between rich and poor on our planet is something I cannot grasp.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Dory Swim


    Vojera wrote: »
    How is it that I, a regular joe who struggles to pay Dublin rents, who will never own a home, who has a relatively low household income, am actually one of the wealthiest people on earth?

    The divide between rich and poor on our planet is something I cannot grasp.

    Read the 48 laws of power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Check this out. It's a live stream of the earth from the International Space Station.

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream

    Perfect for those moments where you want to remember how small your problems are.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The precision is the "easy" bit, the heavy lifting the harder(though pretty explainable). EG if you want to level the site with extreme precision, simples. Level it by eye, then build a low dam and fill the area with water, carve everything down so it's the same depth and you have an "uncannily" level pice of ground.
    Right angles are easy if you have string with knots at 3,4,5 lengths.

    The angle on the slope is the same as stacking barrels and rolling them.

    Also cones / pyramids can't really fall down as even a pile of rubble would be stable
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_repose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    At this stage I don't really fear anything anymore.

    In a weird way I kind of look forward to death because I do believe that I will see people who meant a lot to me again.

    I returned to my inherited Christian faith after a few years in the wilderness, it's something to hold on to if nothing else, because at the end of the day we really know nothing. Dying is something that we'll have to do alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    If the universe is expanding infinitely, then does it make sense that it is possible that everything that has ever happened can happen again and everything that is possible to happen will happen? Or is that ****e talk.

    Kind of like other realms but not existing at the same time as this realm but in the future or the past continuing on forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I... I just... I mean... I don't... No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    richy wrote: »
    If the universe is expanding infinitely, then does it make sense that it is possible that everything that has ever happened can happen again and everything that is possible to happen will happen? Or is that ****e talk.

    Kind of like other realms but not existing at the same time as this realm but in the future or the past continuing on forever.


    There's never one of anything,why would universes be different.
    Whatever created this universe surely created others.

    Unless there is a creator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Do you ever look up at the Sun and think, omg wow, you are 5 billion years old . What a majestic entity

    And wonder why humans worry and fret so much the majority of our lives when we are just meaningless scum in comparison?

    Agree on the sun. I wonder why you wonder why we worry and fret when that is our expression. The sun burns whereas we worry, fret and generally keep busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Who gave the planning permission for the Death Star?

    Multiple times...

    Surely it takes some kind of military genius to build an Empire that controls an entire galaxy and then you go and make the same career ending mistake over and over again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Who gave the planning permission for the Death Star?


    Any County Council during the noughties would have given it the nod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Who gave the planning permission for the Death Star?

    Bunch of Cowboys, imagine leaving a two metre exhaust port that leads to the reactor core without a safety guard


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Who gave the planning permission for the Death Star?
    I could have said they just built it and asked for retention.

    Truth is that it's mobile and so didn't need planning permission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Does space end?

    Like, where would you end up if somehow you could travel through space and kept going? Is there an end to space?

    What does the other side of the moon look like and have we ever been able to see pictures of it?

    Is death like sleep? As in, you go to bed and fall asleep, then you wake in the morning but that whole sleep period...you have no awareness of it. It's a complete blank to you.

    One minute you were awake, the next thing you're awake again.
    Is that what death is like (apart from the waking up bit)?
    People say death is just like what life was like before you were born; i.e nothingness, but I find it hard to believe that something can just end and you have no awareness of it.

    Is time travel possible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Who is dat boi?

    What is up?

    I need answers to these eternal riddles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    If the Sun is so great, why does it only turn up here 50 odd times a year, you sound like your having a bromance with someone fickle OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    How does the wonder of the universe render mankind all scum?

    Bizarre logic and a sad reflection on the inability of some to see that all life and existence is a marvel.

    Only a marvel from the pathetic viewpoint of the inconsequential trifles that are we. In the greater scheme life is just a statistically likely chemical reaction based on carbon and water molecules, and neither here nor there really. That it marvels at itself shows how limited and simple it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    And wonder why humans worry and fret so much the majority of our lives when we are just meaningless scum in comparison?

    Humans believing in gods, the afterlife and everlasting life is just pure arrogance really. We think because we are the "best" creatures on planet Earth that we can make up our own supernatural beings, reasons for existence and future.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Does space end?
    unknown
    this is the reason we talk about the observable universe.

    What does the other side of the moon look like and have we ever been able to see pictures of it?
    Russians first did that on Oct 1959.

    Look at the names of the big features.


    Is time travel possible?
    yes. But only forward. And only in real time. Unless you sleep which is a jump into the future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    I meant individually, we are all less than pond scum in comparison to an entity like the Sun.

    There are no limits on what Mankind can achieve

    Everything has limits. Even mankind. We'll never colonise other planets or discover extra terrestrial life. It's just not feasible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    kneemos wrote: »
    There's never one of anything,why would universes be different.
    Whatever created this universe surely created others.

    Unless there is a creator.

    No! No creator!

    This is such a human bias to 'need' to be able to explain everything regardless of how far fetched that explanation may be.

    It is sweet and fitting to say 'I don't know'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Does space end?

    Like, where would you end up if somehow you could travel through space and kept going? Is there an end to space?

    What does the other side of the moon look like and have we ever been able to see pictures of it?

    Is death like sleep? As in, you go to bed and fall asleep, then you wake in the morning but that whole sleep period...you have no awareness of it. It's a complete blank to you.

    One minute you were awake, the next thing you're awake again.
    Is that what death is like (apart from the waking up bit)?
    People say death is just like what life was like before you were born; i.e nothingness, but I find it hard to believe that something can just end and you have no awareness of it.

    Is time travel possible?

    Apparently. Through folding space. I can't get my head around it though. To me it's the present, everywhere, all of the time, end of. Past and future are human inventions much like clocks and the concept of seconds and hours ticking by.
    The description is incredibly useful but ultimately false.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    No! No creator!

    This is such a human bias to 'need' to be able to explain everything regardless of how far fetched that explanation may be.

    It is sweet and fitting to say 'I don't know'


    Depends how you look at it.It may be just as far fetched and arrogant to say there isn't a creator.

    The existence of the universe and its origin strikes me as just as fantastical as a creator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    kneemos wrote: »
    Depends how you look at it.It may be just as far fetched and arrogant to say there isn't a creator.

    The existence of the universe and its origin strikes me as just as fantastical as a creator.

    Only because you refuse to fail to understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal



    yes. But only forward. And only in real time. Unless you sleep which is a jump into the future.

    Wormhole, folding space, not theoretically possible?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Only because you refuse to fail to understand.


    So we have a universe that somehow popped into existence and expanded to possibly infinite size and into a space we'll just call nothing.
    No explanation to where it came from or where its expanding to.
    I'd call that well weird .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12DeNdF0KPA

    resembles the op's opening post :d))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Space obviously has to end somewhere. Then again, space obviously can't end anywhere. It's the most f*cked up thing to try wrap your head around, both are just as likely as each other.

    If indeed it does go on forever and in all directions, which of the following is more unsettling ; We are all alone in this vast,vast universe...or we are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,429 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Why do grownups post threads about Jet the ex-Gladiator and Neighbours? In not-the-telly forum?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    endacl wrote: »
    Why do grownups post threads about Jet the ex-Gladiator and Neighbours? In not-the-telly forum?

    They'd be locked/ignored there.

    Answer: To get a reaction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    kneemos wrote: »
    So we have a universe that somehow popped into existence and expanded to possibly infinite size and into a space we'll just call nothing.
    No explanation to where it came from or where its expanding to.
    I'd call that well weird .

    There is a perfectly reasonable explanation that we are not aware of and that's ok. No need to fill in the blanks with evolutionarily advantageous morality systems such as religion. Just leave the blanks blank for a change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    I just can't get my head around it.

    Then again, I can't get my head around most things.

    It's not a flexible head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Who shot JR?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Padster90s


    In a few billion years the Earth won't exist. That one gets me. There'll be no trace that humans, all other life and our planet ever existed. I suppose the chance that any remains or fossils of our bodies being vapourised and blasted back off into space makes it seem a bit less gloomy! What existed before the big bang would be another one. Did a past universe collapse and reform the present one from it? If it did, is the present universe repeating the exact same sequence of events as the universe before? Was there nothing there before the big bang, no space, nothing? Annoying thing is we'll never get a right answer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭EL_Loco


    Why my OCD in spotting something messy is over ruled by my laziness, but yet I'll look on the same scene repeatedly, mentally work out what needs doing, then just walk past it. Only to do it again next time I see it. Why universe, whhhhhyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    There is a perfectly reasonable explanation that we are not aware of and that's ok. No need to fill in the blanks with evolutionarily advantageous morality systems such as religion. Just leave the blanks blank for a change.



    Didn't fill in any blanks.Merely observing that one option sounds as weird as the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Your Face wrote: »
    Who shot JR?

    I know the answer to this one. I use it all the time in pub quizzes.










    It was Pat Shortt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Space obviously has to end somewhere. Then again, space obviously can't end anywhere. It's the most f*cked up thing to try wrap your head around, both are just as likely as each other.

    If indeed it does go on forever and in all directions, which of the following is more unsettling ; We are all alone in this vast,vast universe...or we are not.
    for me it's that we are alone...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    There is no spoon


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