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Love it when these chancers are caught out

  • 14-07-2016 1:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭


    Mother who put her children in Tesco trolley which toppled loses €60,000 damages claim

    A MOTHER WHO overloaded her shopping trolley with her children and injured herself in a fall has lost a €60,000 damages claim against her local Tesco.


    Forensic engineer Stephen Mooney told Judge James O’Donohoe in the Circuit Civil court yesterday that by putting her children, aged three and six, on the trolley Patricia Martin had destabilised it and caused it to topple.

    Martin claimed she had injured both her knees and her left thigh when the trolley knocked her down while she tried to protect her two children from hitting the trolley ramp.

    She told the court that she had carried out a shopping at Tesco, Churchview Road, Ballybrack, Co Dublin, in July 2014 and was leaving the store with her goods, and her three-year-old son and six-year-old daughter seated on the trolley, when the accident happened




    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/national/mother-who-put-her-children-in-tesco-trolley-which-toppled-loses-%e2%82%ac60000-damages-claim/ar-BBujRNZ?li=BBrdZor&ocid=spartanntp


    Thought she could claim 60K for overloading her trolley after it toppled over. Landed with a hefty legal bill instead.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    The trolley hit the ramp sideways too....

    I doubt these legal bills will ever be paid though....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I get the feeling that the tax payer will be picking up her legal bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Deedeemazzy


    "A MOTHER WHO overloaded her shopping trolley with her children"

    How many children can fit INTO a shopping trolley anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    How many children can fit INTO a shopping trolley anyway.

    I've managed to get 3 (my kids and a niece) in one , plus a bit of shopping, before.

    Under the proviso, however, that if they break their necks when we're having fun, I won't try to hold Tesco responsible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Deedeemazzy


    I've managed to get 3 (my kids and a niece) in one , plus a bit of shopping, before.

    Under the proviso, however, that if they break their necks when we're having fun, I won't try to hold Tesco responsible.
    From looking at the trolleys, it looks to me like only one little person should be put in with their little legs out.... but hey what would I know!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    Dimwit just didn't stop to think that the trolley's designers would have calculated maximum loads. And probably thought that because children were involved, it was a surefire win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Static Control


    She looks like the upstanding type alright..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    From looking at the trolleys, it looks to me like only one little person should be put in with their little legs out.... but hey what would I know!


    "...He said the trolley provided seating for two toddlers of a combined weight of no more than 19 kilos but, between them, Martin’s two children weighed 36 kilos, just under twice the recommended weight maximum..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    they needed a Forensic engineer to be paid to come to court to tell them that fact:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    What the fook was a 6 year old doing in a trolley anyway?

    Delighted she lost the case and had to pay her own costs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    She looks like the upstanding type alright..

    Did your copy of the article have a pic of her?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Did your copy of the article have a pic of her?

    I was wondering the same :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    And this folks is the reason why Insurance premiums are through the roof.

    Delighted she lost. Why can't accidents just be accidents anymore? Does personal responsibility mean nothing?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Why can't accidents just be accidents anymore? Does personal responsibility mean nothing?
    Are you insane!! It's always someone else's fault. :eek: ;):D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭nkav86


    Was delighted when I saw that story, way too many people mistaking lack of personal common sense and judgement for a company's negligence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Look, this clearly is not her fault.

    She cannot be held responsible for the laws of physics and the existence of gravity.
    Suing God is the next step.

    SOMEONE IS GOING TO PAY!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    She looks like the upstanding type alright..

    Or, in this case, the falldowning type.

    Right guys? :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Are you insane!! It's always someone else's fault. :eek: ;):D

    Wibbs.... its all your fault that my lunch didnt fill me up today.......... :(


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Did your copy of the article have a pic of her?

    This article has a picture. I wonder was it taken before, or after she lost?

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mother-who-put-children-in-shopping-trolley-loses-damages-claim-744733.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    I remember a thread in Legal Discussion a couple of years ago where the op asked if he/she was entitled to compensation for a burn suffered when passing a hand over the spout of a kettle which had just boiled.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    If you fall on the ground, stay down, until the ambulance comes.

    The credo of the compo claimers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ballybrack tesco, unsurprised


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    davo10 wrote: »
    I remember a thread in Legal Discussion a couple of years ago where the op asked if he/she was entitled to compensation for a burn suffered when passing a hand over the spout of a kettle which had just boiled.
    Mother of God

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87991086


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I would hate to run a bricks and mortar type business these days.
    The 'compo-culture' is mental. We've all heard of the classic drop an egg then do a lap around the Isle only to slip on the egg 'you didn't see' - it's madness.

    Kind of feels like everything is slowly becoming a sue culture... You could sack a lazy git of an employee only for them to scream 'unfair dismissal!' rather than realise why they really got the axe :pac:

    Sue sue sue :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp



    Oh wow that is quality! :D
    Yes I understand that. But my question is: I go into the kitchen, see the kettle, touch it and get my hand burnt to bits. Can I complain to them. Yes or No? It's a friendly looking appliance that is designed to sit out in the kitchen.
    I understand if you say, no I have no case. But don't mock me, I am not dumb.

    Brilliant!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    These kind of people are almost as s(ummy as the legal parasites that encourage them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    smash wrote: »
    I get the feeling that the tax payer will be picking up her legal bill.

    I think a great way of sorting this stupid shíte out is to oblige her legal firm to pay Tesco's costs. I think that would put a real chill on fraudulent claims. However, I know it's never going to come to pass as the legal system is going to protect the gravy train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    boombang wrote: »
    the legal system is going to protect the gravy train.

    And this is the main problem. Compo culture is a huge money racket for the legal eagles, they encourage it to the hilt. There are plenty that take on cases knowing damn well that they are contrived and fraudulent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    smash wrote: »
    I get the feeling that the tax payer will be picking up her legal bill.

    It's quite rare to be granted Free Legal Aid in civil actions.

    The likelihood here is that her solicitor will get done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭ando



    Funniest thread I've read in years!! Reminds me of when I heard about a girl putting her hand into a hot deep fat fryer to see if it was hot enough for her chips... :eek:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot



    Thank you, you have just made me p!$$ myself :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    There was a case a few months ago where an experienced hill walker sued Wicklow CoCo (I think) because she slipped and fell, cutting her knee. She got a huge pay out. I remember reading it thinking that if you walk in the hills in our wet climate, slipping is a distinct possibility.

    Also, there seems to be a raft of gardai claiming compensation for pshychological trauma as a result of getting a slap while doing their job. Personally I would have thought that this is an inherent risk of the job. A close friend is a Garda and he said one of the joys of the job is being able to tackle a scum bag in self defence, he would be embarrassed to make a claim if he got a slap from a young pup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭rob316



    Oh my god that's just too good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    It's quite rare to be granted Free Legal Aid in civil actions.

    The likelihood here is that her solicitor will get done.

    I did not know this. This is encouraging to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    It's quite rare to be granted Free Legal Aid in civil actions.

    The likelihood here is that her solicitor will get done.

    Yep, unlikely free legal aid involved. The solicitor will have taken it as no win no fee, even though they're not supposed to as far as I know.
    The legal profession are to blame in my opinion. They are responsible for rising insurance and seriously need to be reformed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Another beauty a while back, a mother who won compensation because the elastic on her toddler's pants were too tight, fat baby or mummy should have bought bigger pants?

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/17k-for-baby-marked-by-elastic-on-designer-pants-383666.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    shes from ballybrack, enough said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    neris wrote: »
    shes from ballybrack, enough said

    Right.....because everyone from Ballybrack engages in compo culture :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Did your copy of the article have a pic of her?

    http://media.central.ie/media/images/p/PatrciaMartinCourt13072016_large.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S




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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's quite rare to be granted Free Legal Aid in civil actions.

    The likelihood here is that her solicitor will get done.
    And the other side?

    Who's going to pay Tesco's legal bills?

    Them or their insurance company

    (plainspeak: you & I)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl



    I pulled a full kettle of freshly boiled water down over myself just over forty years ago, when I was about 16 months old. The boiling water pooled in one of those over-the-nappy-plastic-pants that were all the rage back then. I spent months face-down in a cot in Crumlin hospital, and got extensive skin grafts, which I managed to scratch away before they'd healed, because a kindly young nurse thought my restraints were too tight, and loosened them a bit. Cue more skin grafts. And significant scarring to this day.

    So, if it's not too late, should I sue:
    (A) The kettle company, for making the kettle,
    (B) The auld fella, for boiling the kettle,
    (C) The plastic pants manufacturer (this may be more on the grounds of taste),
    (D) the young nurse, (genuine mistake - sh1t happens)
    (E) myself, for yanking on the kettle cord and going the scratching,

    Or

    (F) all of the above?

    We were made of hardier stuff back then, it seems...


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    endacl wrote: »
    I pulled a full kettle of freshly boiled water down over myself just over forty years ago, when I was about 16 months old. The boiling water pooled in one of those over-the-nappy-plastic-pants that were all the rage back then. I spent months face-down in a cot in Crumlin hospital, and got extensive skin grafts, which I managed to scratch away before they'd healed, because a kindly young nurse thought my restraints were too tight, and loosened them a bit. Cue more skin grafts. And significant scarring to this day.

    So, if it's not too late, should I sue:
    (A) The kettle company, for making the kettle,
    (B) The auld fella, for boiling the kettle,
    (C) The plastic pants manufacturer (this may be more on the grounds of taste),
    (D) the young nurse, (genuine mistake - sh1t happens)
    (E) myself, for yanking on the kettle cord and going the scratching,

    Or

    (F) all of the above?

    We were made of hardier stuff back then, it seems...
    I know you're being sarcastic, but a lawyer would tell you that you should have sued your Dad.

    In another thread I mentioned Moynihan v Moynihan, a famous Irish case where the parents of a toddler successfully sued the child's grandmother (i.e. their own mother) after the toddler scalded herself with a teapot.

    The child's mum was helping the granny do the washing up, but the accident happened in granny's house, so granny was successfully sued.

    Tell your father he owes you one*



    *one hundred thousand euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I know you're being sarcastic, but a lawyer would tell you that you should have sued your Dad.

    In another thread I mentioned Moynihan v Moynihan, a famous Irish case where the parents of a toddler successfully sued the child's grandmother (i.e. their own mother) after the toddler scalded herself with a teapot.

    The child's mum was helping the granny do the washing up, but the accident happened in granny's house, so granny was successfully sued.

    Tell your father he owes you one*



    *one hundred thousand euro
    He bought me my first legal pint. I'd say we're quits.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Are you insane!! It's always someone else's fault. :eek: ;):D

    I fell over while reading your post :(

    See you in court mofo :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp


    I know you're being sarcastic, but a lawyer would tell you that you should have sued your Dad.

    In another thread I mentioned Moynihan v Moynihan, a famous Irish case where the parents of a toddler successfully sued the child's grandmother (i.e. their own mother) after the toddler scalded herself with a teapot.

    The child's mum was helping the granny do the washing up, but the accident happened in granny's house, so granny was successfully sued.

    Tell your father he owes you one*



    *one hundred thousand euro

    Yeah I remember a friend of mine from school was in a car accident, her mum was driving. Her dad sued her mum on his daughter's behalf, they got a very decent payout for fairly minor injuries!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Sorry guys, this one is a winner, granted it was in the US where they are gun toting psychopaths but the aunt who sued her 8 year old nephew for jumping into her arms with excitement and injured her is a special kind of retard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/woman-sues-11-year-old-nephew-hug-broke-wrist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    davo10 wrote: »
    Sorry guys, this one is a winner, granted it was in the US where they are gun toting psychopaths but the aunt who sued her 8 year old nephew for jumping into her arms with excitement and injured her is a special kind of retard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/woman-sues-11-year-old-nephew-hug-broke-wrist.

    “I was at a party recently, and it was difficult to hold my hors d’oeuvre plate,” she reportedly said.

    You can't help but admire her for that.. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Oh no. How terrible :(
    How are they going to get to Santa ponzit now?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And this folks is the reason why Insurance premiums are through the roof.

    Delighted she lost. Why can't accidents just be accidents anymore? Does personal responsibility mean nothing?

    Unscrupulous no win-no fee ambulance chasing solicitors combined with greed and generation 'me' arséholes. And poor judgements in court too.


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