Red Meat alternative

Zelda247

Am fed up eating Chicken and turkey, my husband does not like fish so really stuck to find a substitute for chicken as dont like eating Red meat 7 days a week.

BTW how often do you guys eat red meat?

jokettle

I don't eat red meat very often, it's a bit too expensive for me to buy regularly. Plus my boyfriend is veggie, so it's not worth it to me to cook a lovely steak and then have to cook something else for him to enjoy, or make him cook separately!

Quorn isn't a bad mince substitute, tbh, for chili or bolognese. Lentil bolognese is also really nice.

Alf Veedersane

Whatever-the-turkey-equivalent-of-a-shepherd-is Pie

Try with sweet potato topping too if you want to change it up.

Nom.

ChampagnePop

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Whatever-the-turkey-equivalent-of-a-shepherd-is Pie

Try with sweet potato topping too if you want to change it up.

Nom.

That sounds really nice, I want to try this

Todd Gack

Pork?, personally wouldn't consider it red meat though it's often classed as so

Mellor

Zelda247 wrote: »

Am fed up eating Chicken and turkey, my husband does not like fish so really stuck to find a substitute for chicken as dont like eating Red meat 7 days a week.

Why are you eating one of the other 7 days a week? That will make you sick of any option.

I'd typically have beef, salmon, chicken curry, pork, kangaroo, roast chicken one night each per week.

Investigate further into the "husband does not like fish" thing too. Fish can be very good for you. Various types are as different from each other than chicken and beef.
A lot of people who didn't like fish put it down to their irish mammy overcooking it.

Zelda247

Todd Gack wrote: »

Pork?, personally wouldn't consider it red meat though it's often classed as so

It usually is classed as red meat unfortunately as I love pork.

Zelda247

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Whatever-the-turkey-equivalent-of-a-shepherd-is Pie

Try with sweet potato topping too if you want to change it up.

Nom.

I tried turkey mince recently and hated the taste (sadly!)

Alf Veedersane

Zelda247 wrote: »

I tried turkey mince recently and hated the taste (sadly!)

What did you do with it?

Zelda247

Mellor wrote: »

Why are you eating one of the other 7 days a week? That will make you sick of any option.

I'd typically have beef, salmon, chicken curry, pork, kangaroo, roast chicken one night each per week.

Investigate further into the "husband does not like fish" thing too. Fish can be very good for you. Various types are as different from each other than chicken and beef.
A lot of people who didn't like fish put it down to their irish mammy overcooking it.

We usually have chicken about 3 times a week in its various forms (curry, stir fry, roast), mince about twice a week in (Spag bol and chilli) and maybe a steak or a pork chops.

Husband does not like fish at all he has tried them all, just won't entertain any fish at all.

livedadream

im not a hige red meat eater so maybe one a week?

i do the whole prawns, chicken, turkey burgers, squid, a bit of cod or hake thing.

steak if im out for dinner or taking the time to cook something nice for myself.

i also love lamb mince shepards pie with sweet potato

Blacktie.

Zelda247 wrote:

It usually is classed as red meat unfortunately as I love pork.

Why is that unfortunate? Classification doesn't make a difference for personal preference.

Lau2976

Tofu can be really delicious when cooked right and can be added to most meals as a direct meat substitute.

Mellor

Zelda247 wrote: »

It usually is classed as red meat unfortunately as I love pork.

This post is confusing.

Why does it matter if it's classified as red? If it was reclassified as white it wouldn't change anything.

Alf Veedersane

The Ku Clucks Klan only eat white meat.

Zelda247

Mellor wrote: »

This post is confusing.

Why does it matter if it's classified as red? If it was reclassified as white it wouldn't change anything.

Sorry to confuse, its just that we are told eating too much red meat is bad for us.

BigProblem

Zelda247 wrote: »

Sorry to confuse, its just that we are told eating too much red meat is bad for us.

is ham classified as red meat? is it a good source of protein?

BigProblem

Zelda247 wrote: »

Sorry to confuse, its just that we are told eating too much red meat is bad for us.

is ham classified as red meat? is it a good source of protein?

Mellor

Zelda247 wrote: »

Sorry to confuse, its just that we are told eating too much red meat is bad for us.

That's a very general guidline, and not all that accurate tbh. It's based on studies of diets very high in processed red meat and very fatty cuts.

Pork fillet is very lean, compare with chicken breast. Lean beef, kangaroo, venison etc are also very lean. These are all red meats.
Chicken wings are technically white meat.
I'd be extremely confident that a serving of lean red meat is a much healthier option than a serving of chicken wings.

There's a huge different between lean red meat cuts regularly and eating pork belly, sausages, burgers, fatty steaks etc all the time.

Speedwell

I've tried everything to make turkey mince taste like beef mince or pork mince or veal mince, but it stubbornly refuses to taste like anything but turkey and is horrible in spag bol, lasagna, meatballs, sausages, ma po tofu, etc. Treated like turkey, it suddenly becomes amazing. To prove my point I first made it into a loaf with fresh brown bread crumbs, sage, thyme, an egg, a bit of grated orange peel, and onion and celery sauteed in a little butter. My mother saw the light and stopped trying to make it something it wasn't. I'm now happy to use it in any recipe in which poultry is a desired flavour.

I used to have a hillbilly friend in the American Deep South who hunted regularly and would bring home lots of venison that he and his father processed themselves. One time he was out in his pickup truck and a deer decided to choose the wrong moment to cross the remote mountain road in front of him. Unavoidable. He clipped the deer in the head and decided not to waste the meat, took it to my house because I was the closest, borrowed my best damn kitchen knife, hung the deer from a branch in my back yard, and taught me to butcher it. In exchange for ruining my good knife, he gave me the bulk of the carcass. Very, very good eating. We barbecued the "best bits" and had beer and then he replaced his headlight.

I'd be extremely confident that a serving of lean red meat is a much healthier option than a serving of chicken wings.

Shut up. Shutski upski. LALALALALA can't hear you. Hot wings are going to be the vice that eventually sends me to Hell.

ford2600

Mellor wrote: »

That's a very general guidline, and not all that accurate tbh. It's based on studies of diets very high in processed red meat and very fatty cuts.

Pork fillet is very lean, compare with chicken breast. Lean beef, kangaroo, venison etc are also very lean. These are all red meats.
Chicken wings are technically white meat.
I'd be extremely confident that a serving of lean red meat is a much healthier option than a serving of chicken wings.

There's a huge different between lean red meat cuts regularly and eating pork belly, sausages, burgers, fatty steaks etc all the time.

The problem with diets high in processed red meats is that people who eat like that also tend to
smoke
drink heavily
don't enough a lot of plants etc etc.

If you take away fear of saturated fat, I'm not sure how one can argue that lean chicken/pork is better/healthier than lamb/beef(especially fattier cuts).

I rear beef which is grass fed and buy mountain lamb from neighbour. Having had to visit intensive pig/chicken farms with my work I know which one I'll take my chances with.

For a forum frequented by people who like clean living I can't understand the bias of recommending animal cuts from animals which live the most unnatural stressful of lives which include
*constant raised temperature(reduced food costs)
*no foraging 100% of life on slatted concrete over their own excrement
* entirely concentrate grain diet
* unnatural lighting and disturbed sleep

Mellor

ford2600 wrote: »

The problem with diets high in processed red meats is that people who eat like that also tend to
smoke
drink heavily
don't enough a lot of plants etc etc.

I'm well aware, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I said.

If you take away fear of saturated fat, I'm not sure how one can argue that lean chicken/pork is better/healthier than lamb/beef(especially fattier cuts).

I think you need read my post again. I never once said chicken/pork is better/healthier than lamb/beef.
My entire point was that red meat is no less healthy than white meat.

The point about fattier cuts, both red and white, was in relation to calorie density.
Chicken wings, pork belly, lamb flaps, and beef short rib could be just as healthy to lean meat, in a calorie matched portion. But the reality is you aren't going to have a tiny portion of them. So it doesn't apply.

Beautiful Slut

Nutritionally red meat is better than white meat.

marialouise

Zelda247 wrote: »

Am fed up eating Chicken and turkey, my husband does not like fish so really stuck to find a substitute for chicken as dont like eating Red meat 7 days a week.

BTW how often do you guys eat red meat?

I eat chicken, bacon, turkey, red meat and fish throughout the week.

Chicken is cooked in a variety of dishes (hot, cold, spicy, salads etc).

Bacon I get lean bacon cubes from Super Valu or Tesco (little 75g packs).

Turkey I either buy Turkey breast but also looooads of options for turkey like Turkey Burgers (Kerrigans or O Crualaoi have loads of flavours to choose from), Turkey Rashers, Turkey sausages...

Red meat I buy lean mince (less than 5% fat) and eat 100-150g per portion depending on my needs that day, or a bit of steak without the fat. Red meat is low in fat, full of protein and iron, and super delicious in a variety of dishes (bolognese - I make this with courgetti, chili dishes etc). You may have heard that it's not great because of reasons mentioned above, but really there's no problem eating it a few times a week as part of a balanced diet. If you are eating nothing but burgers and chips and it's your only protein source, that's not ideal, but really there's no reason to avoid it, if you choose good cuts of it, it's got a great nutritional profile.

If I go out for food I always look for lamb on a menu as it's something I'd never cook at home. Everything is fine in moderation; lamb, duck, kangaroo, beef, chicken, everything. There's nothing healthy about eating chicken 7 nights a week either so do vary it and don't worry about the red meat.

I personally don't have the imagination to cook with other meats (wouldn't know how to prepare a duck or anything!) so I usually have chicken/lean bacon/salmon/tuna/lean mince on a regular basis and mix it up with other meats and fish if there's something on offer somewhere.

Also I wouldn't get through a week without O Crualaoi Real Foods (in Cork) or Kerrigans Foods for Fitness (in Dublin). They're craft butchers so put together loads of different marinades/spices on various meats/poultry and have a fitness range of turkey burgers of various flavours. You can get "fakeaway" dinners (like sweet potato fries, veg, some meat), bulk offers, loadsa things to vary your dinners, and it's all quite affordable. If you lack imagination in the kitchen, call into one of those places or order online and let them do the work for you.

Now I'm not sure does their stuff count as "processed", if the concept of that bothers you then maybe it's not so bad after all to just eat a bit of lean beef a bit more often!

marialouise

Zelda247 wrote: »

Sorry to confuse, its just that we are told eating too much red meat is bad for us.

We are told a lot of things. Fat is bad, no fat is good! Sugar's grand, no sugar is poison! Clearly you have an interest in nutrition/food, so continue with this, educate yourself on what's right for you and those around you, and try not to listen to too much of this stuff.