Galway City Council removing Claddagh Jewellers mural today Sat 2nd Jul 2016

pure.conya

I think this is an absolute disgrace and the council should be ashamed of themselves for even considering painting over such a beautiful piece of artwork that brightens up that corner of the city! There are far more pressing matters when it comes to cleaning up this citu

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153757608573947&id=570543946&set=a.59213288946.71029.570543946&source=48&ref=bookmarks

bonzodog2

Cherrypicker in view from their webcam live here
https://thecladdagh.com/webcam

snubbleste

That balloon man is doing very erotic things! :eek:

stampydmonkey

Disgraceful. What is going on in their heads. City of culture my hole

snubbleste

Contact www.threesisters2020.ie, www.limerick2020.ie, www.dublin2020.ie/ and make them aware.
Contact the Govt agency http://www.ahg.gov.ie/arts/culture/european-capital-of-culture/
Contact the EU https://ec.europa.eu/programmes/creative-europe/actions/capitals-culture_en


Thanks snubbleste

gordongekko

snubbleste wrote: »

Contact www.threesisters2020.ie, www.limerick2020.ie, www.dublin2020.ie/ and make them aware.
Contact the Govt agency http://www.ahg.gov.ie/arts/culture/european-capital-of-culture/
Contact the EU https://ec.europa.eu/programmes/creative-europe/actions/capitals-culture_en


Thanks snubbleste

Tell the what?

snubbleste

gordongekko wrote: »

Tell the what?

Dat de Corpo is erasing beautiful ort from de walls of de high street. Dat culture is being removed so to speak.

gordongekko

snubbleste wrote: »

Dat de Corpo is erasing beautiful ort from de walls of de high street. Dat culture is being removed so to speak.

Or that the corpo is enforcing local government policy?

snubbleste

gordongekko wrote: »

Or that the corpo is enforcing local government policy?

Well if that was the case, thee's be no Connacht Rugby flegs flying off lamposts, there'd be no dogs loose on the beach during the day, there'd be no dog poo on the prom, there'd be no imbibing alcohol in public places, there'd be demolition orders all over the place due to planning breaches, every accommodation advert would include a BER...

biko

Ok so I see a couple of issues here

First of all the "why do this when they should do that?" argument. The council are working on many things at once and just because they have got to your favourite issue doesn't mean it will never happen.
Maybe you should run for local government and make things happen yourself?

Secondly, how do we even know this is even on the cards? I doubt that facebook person would be lying, but they give zero background and immediately also use the "why do this when they should do that?"

To me this is just a rumour until a real source is produced, not something someone heard and then posted on facebook and it spread onto boards.




Are you guys going down to protest the removal of the mural? I think you should.

snubbleste

The mural was done, then retention application was refused, then an appeal was refused. http://geo.galwaycity.ie/ePlan5/AppFileRefDetails/1350/0
It's a disgrace, Joe Keith

ben.schlomo

biko wrote: »

Ok so I see a couple of issues here

First of all the "why do this when they should do that?" argument. The council are working on many things at once and just because they have got to your favourite issue doesn't mean it will never happen.
Maybe you should run for local government and make things happen yourself?

Secondly, how do we even know this is even on the cards? I doubt that facebook person would be lying, but they give zero background and immediately also use the "why do this when they should do that?"

To me this is just a rumour until a real source is produced, not something someone heard and then posted on facebook and it spread onto boards.




Are you guys going down to protest the removal of the mural? I think you should.

What are you on about, 'rumour mill', they were ordered to remove it a long time ago. Keep up.

http://connachttribune.ie/prominent-city-centre-shop-to-remove-external-mural/

biko

That's the first I've heard about it. Too bad it wasn't in the initial postings.

So mural have been there 10 years but An Bord Pleanála has refused permission to keep the signage and paintwork.

The Board states that the mural and signs, by reason of excessive scale and design would detract significantly from the appearance of the building at the prominent Mainguard street location.

snubbleste

The Board states that the mural and signs, by reason of excessive scale and design would detract significantly from the appearance of the building at the prominent Mainguard street location.
You could say that about an awful lot of Galway developments in the past decade

J.pilkington

biko wrote: »

Are you guys going down to protest the removal of the mural? I think you should.

Sure it's much easier to whinge about it in the Internet, it's cold out.

ben.schlomo

J.pilkington wrote: »

Sure it's much easier to whinge about it in the Internet, it's cold out.

What would you be doing down there anyway, shouting at the lad hired to paint over it, i doubt hes one of the officials involved in the decision making process.

biko

According to Shlomo it's been general knowledge for 3 years.
Someone (else) should have done something during that time.

What do people propose you do now?

snubbleste

Vigil at Mainguard St needed.

pure.conya

biko wrote: »

Ok so I see a couple of issues here

First of all the "why do this when they should do that?" argument. The council are working on many things at once and just because they have got to your favourite issue doesn't mean it will never happen.
Maybe you should run for local government and make things happen yourself?

Secondly, how do we even know this is even on the cards? I doubt that facebook person would be lying, but they give zero background and immediately also use the "why do this when they should do that?"

To me this is just a rumour until a real source is produced, not something someone heard and then posted on facebook and it spread onto boards.




Are you guys going down to protest the removal of the mural? I think you should.

So theywve ruined a beautiful commissioned piece of art thay not only complimented the area but also the Claddagh Jewellery brand and replaced it with a tiny 2020 logo over an ignorant plain blue that is so out of place for the area its not even funny! Where were all the "arty" people in the council, James Harrold and Gary McMahon in particular seeing as they're heavily involved in the 2020 bid/hub, i cant believe this has been let go ahead!

snubbleste

Did they spray paint it blue and put in the Galway2020 logo?

biko

Before and After

pure.conya

snubbleste wrote: »

Did they spray paint it blue and put in the Galway2020 logo?

It turns out the 2020 logo was up there before the the mural was airbrushed out of existence. How is this monstrosity more fitting for the area and complimenting the Claddagh Jewellers branding? The staff and management in there are livid over it all.

Diabhal Beag

At least we don't have the blue skies to afflict attrocities similar to

_Whimsical_

On the one hand, I agree, it's a pity to see it go. On the other I can see the councils point. Can we let everyone with a premise commission enormous art works on the front to advertise their business? That's probably the precedent we'd be looking at setting here.
I quite liked the giant leg on the ladies shoe shop up near Lazlo which was removed for the same reason,I like this too, but I could see it getting out of hand if it became acceptable for everyone to do it with no regulation on style or maintenance of those works.

If there was regulations for those aspects it could be a nice addition to what's become a pretty tatty,dull city centre though.

_Whimsical_

On the one hand, I agree, it's a pity to see it go. On the other I can see the councils point. Can we let everyone with a premise commission enormous art works on the front to advertise their business? That's probably the precedent we'd be looking at setting here.
I quite liked the giant leg on the ladies shoe shop up near Lazlo which was removed for the same reason,I like this too, but I could see it getting out of hand if it became acceptable for everyone to do it with no regulation on style or maintenance of those works.

If there was regulations for those aspects art works could be a nice addition to what's become a pretty tatty,dull city centre though.

gordongekko

Jesus this us another example of the council being ****ed if it does or ****ed if it doesn't. This mural attractive and all as it is doesn't have planning permission and most be removed.

pure.conya

gordongekko wrote: »

Jesus this us another example of the council being ****ed if it does or ****ed if it doesn't. This mural attractive and all as it is doesn't have planning permission and most be removed.

Peoples apathy will never cease to amaze me

snubbleste

gordongekko wrote: »

Jesus this us another example of the council being ****ed if it does or ****ed if it doesn't. This mural attractive and all as it is doesn't have planning permission and most be removed.

Neither do all the hoardings littering fencing adjacent Doughiska roundabout or the constantly changing 'temporary' signage on the tourist office facade on Forster St.

Links234

God forbid Galway have a bit of character.

One thing I loved about San Francisco was how many murals there were, it was gorgeous.

Speedwell

Hey, that mottled in-your-face electric blue looks pretty sharp. Maybe we could get Sligo to paint over the Yeats mural on Lord Edward Street.




/sarcasm

gordongekko

If they were racist comments on the wall would we feel the same or would we say should there not be planning laws covering these type of things?

Speedwell

gordongekko wrote: »

If they were racist comments on the wall would we feel the same or would we say should there not be planning laws covering these type of things?

There weren't any racist comments on the wall in this case.

gordongekko

Speedwell wrote: »

There weren't any racist comments on the wall in this case.

Rules are the rules

biko

It's not the same at all. Murals are not graffiti nor tags.
Taaffe's shop used to have graffiti but it was pretty nice imo, it was removed.

This one at the Sparch was very good


For me this particular Claddagh Jewellers mural was nice but not "special" in any sense.
Hopefully they will put up a nice 2020 mural now.

Speedwell

gordongekko wrote: »

Rules are the rules

Are you OK?

gordongekko

Speedwell wrote: »

Are you OK?

What does that mean?

BeardySi

gordongekko wrote: »

If they were racist comments on the wall would we feel the same or would we say should there not be planning laws covering these type of things?

Not to mention the fact that there are laws covering that sort of thing...
In a city known for its colourful bright and arty ways it fitted in perfectly (as did the one on the shoe shop btw). The state of Taafes, the state of the paving, the empty units and the hordes of sandwich board holders at each junction are all far more detrimental to the streetscape. With the modern shopfronts the length of shop Street it's not exactly an historical scene and the mural on the jeweller's is exactly the kind of thingthing that should be encouraged to set Galway apart from every other copy/paste chain store high street in the country.

_Whimsical_

Treadhead wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that there are laws covering that sort of thing...
In a city known for its colourful bright and arty ways it fitted in perfectly (as did the one on the shoe shop btw). The state of Taafes, the state of the paving, the empty units and the hordes of sandwich board holders at each junction are all far more detrimental to the streetscape. With the modern shopfronts the length of shop Street it's not exactly an historical scene and the mural on the jeweller's is exactly the kind of thingthing that should be encouraged to set Galway apart from every other copy/paste chain store high street in the country.

I agree that the place looks dreadful right now and it'd be a cheap way to individualise what now looks like a dingy backstreet in Manchester. I suppose you can't rely on all business owners to have the taste to do something that won't be garish and awful though, or on council to approve something that'll be appropriate either. It would need to be an art driven movement, if it was it could be fantastic. It could be trialled for a few years and gotten rid of of it wasn't a success too, it's not like a permanent commitment.

pure.conya

gordongekko wrote: »

If they were racist comments on the wall would we feel the same or would we say should there not be planning laws covering these type of things?

IF my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle

gordongekko

pure.conya wrote: »

IF my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle

Is that in anyways relevant?

BeardySi

gordongekko wrote: »

pure.conya wrote: »

IF my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle

Is that in anyways relevant?

About as relevant as straw men and racist slogans...

pure.conya

gordongekko wrote: »

Is that in anyways relevant?

It's as relevant as your what if'ery

gordongekko

pure.conya wrote: »

IF my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle

Treadhead wrote: »

About as relevant as straw men and racist slogans...

pure.conya wrote: »

It's as relevant as your what if'ery

So to hell with the rules and we can just put whatever we want on the wall on shop street?

Speedwell

gordongekko wrote: »

So to hell with the rules and we can just put whatever we want on the wall on shop street?

Well, no. But there's a critical difference between beautiful artwork that improves the look of a property and its neighborhood, and racist vandalism that ruins it.

gordongekko

Speedwell wrote: »

Well, no. But there's a critical difference between beautiful artwork that improves the look of a property and its neighborhood, and racist vandalism that ruins it.

One person's art is another racism hence the rules.

Speedwell

gordongekko wrote: »

One person's art is another racism hence the rules.

So, you're saying that you don't understand the difference?

gordongekko

Speedwell wrote: »

So, you're saying that you don't understand the difference?

No I'm saying I like the mural but if it's against the rules it must be removed. Maybe we should campaign for the rules to be changed.

FortySeven

Speedwell wrote: »

Well, no. But there's a critical difference between beautiful artwork that improves the look of a property and its neighborhood, and racist vandalism that ruins it.

I find the whole claddagh ring thing a bit tourist tacky and never liked the drawing on the wall. It was not beautiful. It was advertising. I agree the new blue looks rubbish too but I'm sure the owners will clean it up.

Mrs OBumble

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

I quite liked the giant leg on the ladies shoe shop up near Lazlo which was removed for the same reason,I like this too, but I could see it getting out of hand if it became acceptable for everyone to do it with no regulation on style or maintenance of those works.

Except it wasn't removed.

Photo taken today:

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/115678/390575.jpg

Pretty dodgy IMHO for the rules to say that plants and Claddagh rings aren't ok, but soft-porn is.

FortySeven

Soft porn? They're doing it wrong unless I can see up her skirt when holding my head against the wall. Will have to try tomorrow.

_Whimsical_

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Pretty dodgy IMHO for the rules to say that plants and Claddagh rings aren't ok, but soft-porn is.

Well... someone is easily aroused!

God though, I've passed that and I was sure that was gone, I heard it was to be taken down by the council and the owners were very upset.
Personally I like it, it's at least artistic,visually pleasing and kind of unusual!
Of course though obviously my eyesight isn't as good as I thought.