Formula 1 2016: Round 9 - Austrian Grand Prix

Harika

Good old race on the Österreichring Red Bull Ring

TV times, live on Sky Sports

Friday 1 July 2016

Austrian Grand Prix first practice 09:00
Austrian Grand Prix second practice 13:00

Saturday 2 July 2016

Austrian Grand Prix third practice 10:00
Austrian Grand Prix qualifying live 13:00
Austrian Grand Prix qualifying highlights Channel 4 17:30

Sunday 3 July 2016

Austrian Grand Prix 13:00

Austrian Grand Prix highlights Channel 4 18:00

Weather is said to be changing during the weekend, with the chance of rain during the qualifying. Race day should be colder but dry.

As there is a new tarmac laid around the track, we might see a new overall quickest time for this track, that record is atm held by Michael Schumacher in 2003 with 1:07.908. Last years pole time was 1:08.455 by Lewis Hamilton. DTM was already racing there and their times improved by two seconds from last year on the new tarmac.

And the course:

Harika

Ricciardo taking slot cars around the track.

flazio

Just a bit of broadcasting information, because Setanta are covering the annual South London Rain festival (which keeps getting interrupted by outbreaks of tennis) Free practice 1 and 2 won't be live. Shown in their entirely at midnight later that night.

Charlie-Bravo

with Esteban Gutierrez (Haas), Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso), Kevin Magnussen (Renault), Felipe Nasr (Sauber), Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari), Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9qoaafWQgw

Charlie-Bravo

flazio wrote: »

Just a bit of broadcasting information, because Setanta are covering the annual South London Rain festival (which keeps getting interrupted by outbreaks of tennis) Free practice 1 and 2 won't be live. Shown in their entirely at midnight later that night.

Funnily, I was hoping it was raining at Wimbledon and Setanta would put on FP2. Low and behold, it's dry in SW19 while its shockingly bad wet weather in Austria!! What's the forecast for quali and race?

Harika

astrofluff wrote: »

Funnily, I was hoping it was raining at Wimbledon and Setanta would put on FP2. Low and behold, it's dry in SW19 while its shockingly bad wet weather in Austria!! What's the forecast for quali and race?

Quali could be wet, race should be colder but dry. Rain overnight, so slippery track to be expected.
FP best time is 1:07.373 by Rosberg, 1.1 seconds quicker than last years pole time.

Charlie-Bravo

Oops, Rosberg into the wall caused by an unexpected rear left wishbone break.

HighLine

Rules can be a load of bull sometimes. Suffers a suspension failure and then gets another kick.

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/749186611242557440

Myrddin

The rules can be harsh sometimes, but they'll play to him later in the season too because Lewis is on the limit for two engine components. Seb has this in the bag I feel, and I wouldn't be surprised to see rosberg claw a podium either.

Ghost Train

Vettel has penalty too though

I guess Hamilton favourite for pole

Ghost Train

Problem for Perez, wonder will he make it through to Q2, and will he be repaired in time

Ghost Train

And Kvyat. Wonder was it his fault. He didn't need that

Delboy2015

I feel sorry for Kyvat but he has had so many mistakes (if it was his fault). On the other hand, it allows Wehrlein into Q2.

HighLine

Another suspension failure? This could get interesting!

flazio

Those kerbs are seriously hard on the suspension.

Mech1

Am I right in thinking that is 3 rear suspension failures today?

Delboy2015

Mech1 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that is 3 rear suspension failures today?

Yep, you'd wonder why the drivers keep putting the cars out there though.

Ghost Train

Pushing too hard but suspension should be up to curbs. Curbs need to go I think, too many issues if driver makes mistake, 4 cars with suspension problems now

flazio

Am I right in saying all failures happened on Ultra soft? Perhaps there is something about the grip on that tyre that wasn't taken into consideration when designing the suspension.

Ghost Train

Looks like rain might be about to arrive

flazio

Big picture problems for Setanta for a bit. Seems to have settled down now.

bnt

Button got lucky - secured P10 before the rain ruined Grosjean's fast lap, so through to Q3.

flazio

This could be a good Q3. Last man wins.

Ghost Train

Might be good grid tomorrow

Time for slicks I think

Ghost Train

5th for Button will work out as P3

bnt

Rosberg P2 before his penalty, which means Hulkenberg on the front row, and Button in the 2nd row. Interesting grid, you said? :cool:

HighLine

Heard Toto Wolff has suggested that the curbing is creating some sort of resonance which is resulting in the broken suspensions. You can see it below...

https://twitter.com/F1_Fanatics_AU/status/749219244882014208

Charlie-Bravo

That's a crazy amount of lateral movement of the tyre wall on both tyres. Great slow-mo all the same.

Jordan 199

It would be great if Pascal Wehrlein scored some points tomorrow.

Mike Litoris

Yeah, nice grid! Should make for an interesting 1st few laps!

AMKC

Well that was a good qualifying season today. Should make for a good race tomorrow. Would like to see Hulkenberg get on the podium. Thought he was going to get P1. Good to see Button get into Q3 and in 5th but them move up too 3rd because of grid penalty,s on other drivers.
As for the new yellow curbs I think its right to have them there. If they were not there drivers would be going out over the track limits and getting away with it. They should be able to race whiten the track you can,t go of over the track limits in a place like Monoco so why should they be allowed to do it here. Also the reason they are so hard on the suspension is because they are made of steel which is harder on the suspension.

Ghost Train

astrofluff wrote: »

That's a crazy amount of lateral movement of the tyre wall on both tyres. Great slow-mo all the same.

Interesting that it's the smaller curbs that seemed to cause the damage in both Rosberg and Kyvats failure. Teams seem to be playing about with tyre pressure rules by super heating the wheel hubs and seems to be a lot of bounce in the tyres. Does make me wonder if tyre pressure is small factor.

Charlie-Bravo

Funny you say that...Pirelli had the minimum pressures set to 19.5psi, but lowered it overnight to 18.5psi. But I'm not sure if this is causing more problems or not.

Do higher pressures cause less lateral resonance whereas reducing pressures ending up with so much more lateral movement/resonance?? I dunno, there's loads of science around it I'm sure we'll find out more.

Charlie-Bravo

It's a very wet morning for the GP3 race with the GP2 race to follow shortly. I'm wondering if it will clear later at lunchtime.

Harika

Its still drizzling so a wet start could be possible but still expected to dry up.

flazio

astrofluff wrote: »

That's a crazy amount of lateral movement of the tyre wall on both tyres. Great slow-mo all the same.

I'm no technical expert but my theory is the ultra soft tyres are too grippy for that sort of lateral movement and that's what's putting the suspension under strain. When they were announced Pirelli said they were a street circuit special, so what they are doing here is anyone's guess.

Faugheen

Hulkenberg seems to make places at the start, although I dunno if it's down to him or the cluster****s in the midfield. Wouldn't be surprised if he leads into one.

Cool_CM

Come on, hope this is good, I'm supposed to be helping out getting stuff ready for a wedding tomorrow and if it's a borefest I'll be in the doghouse for no reason!

Faugheen

Oh Wehrlein...

Cool_CM

And Lewis is off...

Autosport

As a Button fan I hope he does really good today, great start from him

Faugheen

Is it just me or have Croft and Brundle missed an outstanding move by Hulkenberg around the outside of Ricciardo?

Cool_CM

Jaysus, Kvyat is having a horror season

Kxiii

Nice move from Vettel

flazio

Surely it's time to show Lewis the black orange flag.

Cool_CM

Wahey, rain on the helicopter camera

flazio

Lewis waiting for intermediate conditions?

bnt

Hamilton seems to be aiming for a 1-stop, staying out so long on those shredding tyres, losing over a second per lap over Rosberg. Even if it rains, he'll still have one fewer stop than everyone else.

blackdog2

What are Sky on, thinking that if Vettel pits Rosberg should give the place back to Hamilton

Autosport

What!!! Jesus Vettel :eek:

Cool_CM

Fücking hell, Vettel!