Powerpoint!

evolving_doors

Do teachers use it for classes?
I don't know any who do!
Or is it just a 3rd level thing?

mtoutlemonde

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Do teachers use it for classes?
I don't know any who do!
Or is it just a 3rd level thing?

I do I teach languages so when I teach vocab, I usually have an image and the word and maybe a revision exercise. I feel its easier than giving lists of words. I also use if for grammar explanations that can be difficult to understand in the book so I summarise and students take that down. In my last school, a lot of the teachers used it. I have heard about prezzi but I can't get my head around it. Give me PowerPoint any day.

Crazyteacher

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Do teachers use it for classes?
I don't know any who do!
Or is it just a 3rd level thing?

I use it still. I have a few prezi's done but I still go back to PowerPoint. Using my iPad mostly in class now so have the majority of my powerpoints converted to keynote . See that some of my colleagues put a lot of text on their slide but I'd be more inclined to use it for bullet points, keywords, and images . Nothing worse than PowerPoint overkill.

seavill

I would have most of my notes as powerpoints but it would be bullet points with accompanying pictures on every slide. I don't get the kids to take it down word for word or anything like that.
I don't like reading from the textbook much prefer this method.

A colleague has gone mad into prezzi and has been encouraging me, I haven't looked at it yet but might over the summer

r93kaey5p2izun

I use it a fair bit for science classes but not for maths. Agree completely about too much text though - keep it simple. I just find it good for putting together a lesson in terms of key points, images, videos etc, then you have it ready to go.

I find Prezi irritating as a viewer but it's something I'd like to look into more. I think you have to pay or else all your presentations are public though. We have IWBs but I find the software so user unfriendly I've given up trying to create ActiveInspre presentations - just not worth the effort.

evolving_doors

Ive seen a few prezis and they make ppt look ancient. I've heard its free if you've school mail address too.

icebergiceberg

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Do teachers use it for classes?
I don't know any who do!
Or is it just a 3rd level thing?

I am afraid I have been left behind in the technology department. Nobody uses it where I am. When we have outsiders come in to do a presentation I get very wary when I see them using it. My feeling is that there's a lot of bedazzle about it. A touch of showing off.
Having said that I have often spent ages making worksheets from which I got no real value from. In other words, the time I spent preparing was not worth the paltry use I got from them in class. I would like to be more technologically aware but wouldn't get sucked into technology if it's not efficient.

evolving_doors

icebergiceberg wrote: »

I am afraid I have been left behind in the technology department. Nobody uses it where I am. When we have outsiders come in to do a presentation I get very wary when I see them using it. My feeling is that there's a lot of bedazzle about it. A touch of showing off.
Having said that I have often spent ages making worksheets from which I got no real value from. In other words, the time I spent preparing was not worth the paltry use I got from them in class. I would like to be more technologically aware but wouldn't get sucked into technology if it's not efficient.

I think it's a 'critical mass' thing, if a school has so many teachers who use it then students kind of expect it.
Maybe it's a thing now in teacher training colleges where student teachers just prepare all there lessons via ppt. or use projectors without thinking twice. Any of the hdips who are in or staffroom always seem to be preparing lessons on slides.
At the end of the day though the learning that takes place happens through the interaction with the teacher, not necessarily dependant on the medium. Hence why I think class sizes are the biggest limiting factor to learning.

TheSplendid

Language teacher here, use it all the time. I have a powerpoint file for each class (only subbing at the moment, will probably do it by theme on the long-term), with a slide for each new exercise. It saves me a lot of time, and allows me to go back easily on something we've done previously, be it vocabulary, grammar...

It just makes things so much easier, both for me and for my students, as well as for the teacher I'm subbing for : everything we've done, every single exercise, is there. I usually leave all the files on the desktop when I've finished subbing (plus a separate sheet which recaps what's been done).

mtoutlemonde

TheSplendid wrote: »

Language teacher here, use it all the time. I have a powerpoint file for each class (only subbing at the moment, will probably do it by theme on the long-term), with a slide for each new exercise. It saves me a lot of time, and allows me to go back easily on something we've done previously, be it vocabulary, grammar...

It just makes things so much easier, both for me and for my students, as well as for the teacher I'm subbing for : everything we've done, every single exercise, is there. I usually leave all the files on the desktop when I've finished subbing (plus a separate sheet which recaps what's been done).

I concur and hope I'm not opening a can of worms and going off topic but I never leave resources I make for teachers I cover for. The majority of times, I have never received resources. I leave a comprehensive list of what was covered. I don't know how long you've been teaching but you will soon realise that teachers are very protective of their resources and don't share them readily because of the time it takes to prepare them. It's very different in England where there are loads of websites with power points/handouts etc. It doesn't happen here.

r93kaey5p2izun

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Ive seen a few prezis and they make ppt look ancient. I've heard its free if you've school mail address too.

It's free to anyone but your presentations must be saved publicly, if you want to save them privately you have to pay. I agree it looks very new and fresh but I hate the transitions in it - I find them very distracting.

Mardy Bum

mtoutlemonde wrote: »

I concur and hope I'm not opening a can of worms and going off topic but I never leave resources I make for teachers I cover for. The majority of times, I have never received resources. I leave a comprehensive list of what was covered. I don't know how long you've been teaching but you will soon realise that teachers are very protective of their resources and don't share them readily because of the time it takes to prepare them. It's very different in England where there are loads of websites with power points/handouts etc. It doesn't happen here.

For a well run department this attitude won't really be much good for the students themselves as a year body. Also if you are still just covering it may be wiser to think of the end game and the reference and impressing as many people as possible. No offence meant just an observation from experience.

mtoutlemonde

Mardy Bum wrote: »

For a well run department this attitude won't really be much good for the students themselves as a year body. Also if you are still just covering it may be wiser to think of the end game and the reference and impressing as many people as possible. No offence meant just an observation from experience.

Yeah I agree it depends on department - in my first year teaching, the department shared resources but in other schools, they give nothing so I'm not going to be sharing resources getting nothing back. I'm a fair honest person and that's how I operate. I put a lot of time into my resources. Sharing resources with the absent teacher is not going to impress anyone, using them will. In my last school, the person I was covering in cleared everything - didn't even ask me if I had books or not - would you honestly leave behind your resources for such a person and btw I got an excellent reference.

mirrorwall14

I'm not a big user of PowerPoint. I find that PowerPoints for one class just mean I end up with dozens of them with not a lot of info on them. However I'm just thinking out loud, does anyone use google presentation and keep updating it? Like it would be nice to use one presentation that updates over several classes of a topic leaving the students with a good resource for revision. In maths then I could add in photographs of the board problems etc.

On that note I have started building a library of maths videos built using my iPad and explain everything. Feedback from students is excellent although it is time consuming. The way I'm building it is that any question asked by a student outside of class time (I operate an online classroom) I create a video for and I'm forcing myself to tag them appropriately

Corkgirl18

I use it everyday. I'm a science teacher. I graduated last year and yes we are expected to use a Ppt or some technology related visual aid in every class. Its on a checklist that we are supposed to tick off.
I use it mainly for definitions, images, live animations (Bohr diagrams etc) and games. I find if you animate the slides and use images students pay a lot more attention than if you just use the book.
Dyslexic students find Powerpoint a lot easier to manage also.

Corkgirl18

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I'm not a big user of PowerPoint. I find that PowerPoints for one class just mean I end up with dozens of them with not a lot of info on them. However I'm just thinking out loud, does anyone use google presentation and keep updating it? Like it would be nice to use one presentation that updates over several classes of a topic leaving the students with a good resource for revision. In maths then I could add in photographs of the board problems etc.

On that note I have started building a library of maths videos built using my iPad and explain everything. Feedback from students is excellent although it is time consuming. The way I'm building it is that any question asked by a student outside of class time (I operate an online classroom) I create a video for and I'm forcing myself to tag them appropriately

Not sure if you're aware but a lot of the maths books now have Powerpoints with all of the problems and answers on slides. They also have loads of geogebra resources. I've been using the CJFallon ones for Texts and Tests and found them very useful.

r93kaey5p2izun

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

Not sure if you're aware but a lot of the maths books now have Powerpoints with all of the problems and answers on slides. They also have loads of geogebra resources. I've been using the CJFallon ones for Texts and Tests and found them very useful.

How do you access these? We use Text and Tests on a book rental scheme but never given any information on digital resources.

mirrorwall14

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

Not sure if you're aware but a lot of the maths books now have Powerpoints with all of the problems and answers on slides. They also have loads of geogebra resources. I've been using the CJFallon ones for Texts and Tests and found them very useful.

Yeah, but I do like a pen and verbalising my method myself!

evolving_doors

Erik Uneven Barley wrote: »

It's free to anyone but your presentations must be saved publicly, if you want to save them privately you have to pay. I agree it looks very new and fresh but I hate the transitions in it - I find them very distracting.

I think if you register in edu mode though you are able to save.

I'd be delighted if anyone used my resources, it's not as if I'm losing out on royalties. Share the love and all that.

2011abc

Please God I get to retire on a half decent pension before job becomes a box ticking exercise .Already gone that way in England with literally dozens of boxes to be ticked for every lesson .Sad .

Mardy Bum

2011abc wrote: »

Please God I get to retire on a half decent pension before job becomes a box ticking exercise .Already gone that way in England with literally dozens of boxes to be ticked for every lesson .Sad .

Incidental inspections are already box ticking exercises so it is useful to know what boxes they want ticked.

r93kaey5p2izun

Gebgbegb wrote: »

I think if you register in edu mode though you are able to save.

I'd be delighted if anyone used my resources, it's not as if I'm losing out on royalties. Share the love and all that.

Thanks I'll look into it. I'm happy to share with my own colleagues through our shared drive but just not comfortable with it all being public.

carefulnowted

The best teacher I ever had loved using Powerpoint. I remember a student in my class telling her once that when he was in an exam, he could remember info off her Powerpoint easily because of how distinct and concise it was. She used animations, videos, images etc and we found it very effective. We also took all our notes from the Powerpoint which were far clearer than the book.

r93kaey5p2izun

2011abc wrote: »

Please God I get to retire on a half decent pension before job becomes a box ticking exercise .Already gone that way in England with literally dozens of boxes to be ticked for every lesson .Sad .

Yes I hate hearing about schools going down the route of micromanaging teaching in the classroom. There was a similar push in my own school to control teaching methodologies during the past year.

Starkystark

2011abc wrote: »

Please God I get to retire on a half decent pension before job becomes a box ticking exercise .Already gone that way in England with literally dozens of boxes to be ticked for every lesson .Sad .

Totally agree. Worked in England. Had several observations - they were always with my BESD kids too. "Oh you didn't ask any/enough higher end questioning", minus the fact that joey blog over there is sitting in his chair and doing some work and not throwing tables at me.

On the other point I use PowerPoint. But not for every class - I would say a good balance of PowerPoint, class discussion, and whiteboard marker and talk.

I use power points for maps/pictures/visual stimulus.

Corkgirl18

Erik Uneven Barley wrote: »

How do you access these? We use Text and Tests on a book rental scheme but never given any information on digital resources.

I just happened to stumble across it to be honest. Go to the CJFallon website and make an account.
From there you can pick whatever book you want and pick what exercise. They have the examples online too so its quite handy when doing questions on the board.

gaiscioch

carefulnowted wrote: »

The best teacher I ever had loved using Powerpoint. I remember a student in my class telling her once that when he was in an exam, he could remember info off her Powerpoint easily because of how distinct and concise it was. She used animations, videos, images etc and we found it very effective. We also took all our notes from the Powerpoint which were far clearer than the book.

While I don't use PowerPoint as much as I used to you can make very effective PP with animation that the kids do remember years after and can laugh about (for some reason they remember when your animation characters have a violent accident as part of the lesson!). PP can be great if not overused - their boredom is palpable when it is. It also can be a good way to teach academically-weaker kids in a more visual way. I prefer to leave my notes in Edmodo in pp rather than, say, doc format because PP allows for an accessible, consise yet colourful format. Lessons and topics can be colour-coded, animation-marked or whatever.

PS: This PP remote is very good.

carefulnowted

gaiscioch wrote: »

While I don't use PowerPoint as much as I used to you can make very effective PP with animation that the kids do remember years after and can laugh about (for some reason they remember when your animation characters have a violent accident as part of the lesson!). PP can be great if not overused - their boredom is palpable when it is. It also can be a good way to teach academically-weaker kids in a more visual way. I prefer to leave my notes in Edmodo in pp rather than, say, doc format because PP allows for an accessible, consise yet colourful format. Lessons and topics can be colour-coded, animation-marked or whatever.

PS: This PP remote is very good.

Yeah, I have a different teacher who just types reams of notes into Powerpoint and she's regarded as poor, because it's hard to learn from pages of bulletpoints. I understand that notes are necessary, but students find her classes boring because they just consist of taking down notes. Videos, funny graphics and so on go down really well with most classes, in my experience.

TL;DR: Don't just use Powerpoint as another blackboard.

evolving_doors

Erik Uneven Barley wrote: »

Thanks I'll look into it. I'm happy to share with my own colleagues through our shared drive but just not comfortable with it all being public.

https://prezi.com/pricing/edu/ I think with edu enjoy you can store it 'in the cloud' but not on your own laptop. There seems to be privacy setting too!

sryanbruen

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Do teachers use it for classes?
I don't know any who do!
Or is it just a 3rd level thing?

All my teachers do - and so do I!

gctest50

Starkystark wrote: »

Totally agree. Worked in England. Had several observations - they were always with my BESD kids too. "Oh you didn't ask any/enough higher end questioning", minus the fact that joey blog over there is sitting in his chair and doing some work and not throwing tables at me.

On the other point I use PowerPoint. But not for every class - I would say a good balance of PowerPoint, class discussion, and whiteboard marker and talk.

I use power points for maps/pictures/visual stimulus.

Do ye have yokes like these ? :

http://www.plus-board.com/n-20s-copyboard.html


sends the whiteboard to smartphones, prints etc

sitstill

I use Power point quite a bit, but not in every lesson. I think it's not always suitable for every topic or for every group of students. I never got into Prezi though.