Irish passports, come and get your Irish passports

CaraMay

Why are people so happy that there is now a rush on Irish passports and citizenship? We can't mind the people we have here right now never mind people who had no interest until Brexit

Tipperary Fairy

Who's happy? What are you talking about?

The Raptor

CaraMay wrote: »

Why are people so happy that there is now a rush on Irish passports and citizenship? We can't mind the people we have here right now never mind people who had no interest until Brexit

Are they applying to get a passport for EU citizenship or to be minded and get the dole?

OldMrBrennan83

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EagererBeaver

Patww79 wrote: »

Its bring portrayed in the clickbait media as great altogether for the past couple of days.

As soon as the decision was made they should have put the shutters down for a few weeks to assess the situation. Bad eboufg since the good Friday that they've taken all meaning from one by handing them out like smarties. It's getting full on ridiculous now since this Brit/EU thing.

What does the GFA have to do with it?!

Peregrine

If they're entitled to be an Irish citizen then I don't see the problem.

Whereas there was **** all difference* between an Irish passport and a British passport, events transpired that made being an Irish citizen more attractive to people who are fully entitled to one. Let them have it.

*That's not true. The UK often has larger and more foreign embassies.

OldMrBrennan83

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I'm guessing OP went full retard and assumes passports = benefits. You should never go full retard.

ifeelill

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

Who's happy? What are you talking about?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8W7vmq6lVTI/hqdefault.jpg

lazygal

CaraMay wrote: »

Why are people so happy that there is now a rush on Irish passports and citizenship? We can't mind the people we have here right now never mind people who had no interest until Brexit

Care to offer any data to back this up?

Winterlong

Given the cost to apply for irish citizenship I would not be convinced that there will be a massive rush.


http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP11000026

Add in solicitor fees on top of that.

alexonhisown

OP dont believe everything you read in the news. Brexit result was friday, and you believe there is a surge in Irish Passports Applications from non Irish since friday? I'm sure the process for non nationals to get a passport is not a straight forward one, so unless they all had their forms filled out and documents ready to send if there was was a "leave" vote, it wouldnt be possible to do it that quick. And as someone stated, if they have been living and working here long enough to qualify for Irish Passport, whats the problem?

Mongfinder General

CaraMay wrote: »

Why are people so happy that there is now a rush on Irish passports and citizenship? We can't mind the people we have here right now never mind people who had no interest until Brexit

You must be only delighted in the knowledge that as the UK shuts its borders, the migrant flow will spill towards Ireland. No fear though, I'm sure Enda has a plan!

thisistough

Winterlong wrote: »

Given the cost to apply for irish citizenship I would not be convinced that there will be a massive rush.


http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP11000026

Add in solicitor fees on top of that.

I don't think most of them are applying for naturalisation

Winterlong

thisistough wrote: »

I don't think most of them are applying for naturalisation

There are no numbers on this, just what some journo thinks is happening.

rainbow kirby

Crap time to be applying for one for my UK-born 3 month old so! :pac:

kneemos

Winterlong wrote: »

There are no numbers on this, just what some journo thinks is happening.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjXkNuroMXNAhVMK8AKHTYoCtgQqUMIHzAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishexaminer.com%2Fexamviral%2Freal-life%2Fbrexit-caused-a-spike-in-online-searches-for-irish-passport-406803.html&usg=AFQjCNFvk1L3HzJc4AQo9O3-iKOocP0maA

Freddio

Zeek hi-ole

EagererBeaver

Patww79 wrote: »

Because it was when the country started doling out passports to people that shouldn't have one. A good few of whom will be clamouring for one now when they ordinarily wouldn't wipe their arse with it. It was too big a concession.

Who wasn't entitled to one before the agreement that was entitled to one after?

Wanderer78

Hmmm summer time, mad panic at passport office. Think I've seen this before!

ted1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm guessing OP went full retard and assumes passports = benefits. You should never go full retard.

What he doesn't realise it's that passports are used to those who travel. And most of those that travel do so fur with business trips it trips that are paid for with money rewarded by being gainfully employed

corner of hells

P_1 wrote: »

Let the cogs turn inside your head a second (difficult I know jut try it). Two Irish people have a child, the child is born in London. What nationality is the child?

Don't you start with your La Di Dah logic ?

Barry Badrinath

corner of hells wrote: »

But my daughter was born abroad while me and my wife were living abroad , can she not have Irish citizenship ?

Of course, don't mind that lad. We know what he's up ta!

"Citizenship through descent

If either of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, you are an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth"

Extract from here: http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/inis/pages/wp11000024

corner of hells

McGruber wrote: »

Of course, don't mind that lad. We know what he's up ta!

"Citizenship through descent

If either of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, you are an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth"

Extract from here: http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/inis/pages/wp11000024

Thank fcuk for that .
Mrs Li Peng will be happy now.

kneemos

Third generation emigrants obtaining one via the grandparent rule is a bit of a stretch,wouldn't have a problem with it though.

Galwayguy35

kneemos wrote: »

Second generation emigrants obtaining one via the grandparent rule is a bit of a stretch,wouldn't have a problem with it though.

My cousins are doing it, their Grandfather (my uncle) is the Irish connection.

Boom_Bap

Loads of posts have been deleted from the thread following an outburst of trollery from a poster.
Loads.

failinis

Winterlong wrote: »

Given the cost to apply for irish citizenship I would not be convinced that there will be a massive rush.


http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP11000026

Add in solicitor fees on top of that.

Passport is different than naturalisation/citizenship.

Pro Hoc Vice

EagererBeaver wrote: »

What does the GFA have to do with it?!

Both governments must accept the right of Northern Ireland citizens to declare themselves as either British or Irish and that dual citizenship must be provided for those who desire it.

Barry Badrinath

kneemos wrote: »

Third generation emigrants obtaining one via the grandparent rule is a bit of a stretch,wouldn't have a problem with it though.

It's gets them on our floorball team though!

Winterlong

failinis wrote: »

Passport is different than naturalisation/citizenship.

Yes, and the OP mentioned citizenship in her OP..hence my showing the price some people have to pay!

wigsa100

Irish people have been clambering for foreign passports for many, many decades at this point. You can't get one if you're not entitled to it. If you're entitled to it, you're entitled to it. Simple as.

The Ging and I

Mongfinder General wrote: »

No fear though, I'm sure Enda has a plan!

Brussels haven't told him the plan yet !

CaraMay

Yeah I suppose I don't think your entitlement should be generated from grandparents, parents I understand but grandparents is too far back.

failinis

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Both governments must accept the right of Northern Ireland citizens to declare themselves as either British or Irish and that dual citizenship must be provided for those who desire it.

Its not even Irish or British, you can hold two passports at the same time (which is of course what a lot of people are doing now).
Handy enough!

wokingvoter

failinis wrote: »

Its not even Irish or British, you can hold two passports at the same time (which is of course what a lot of people are doing now).
Handy enough!

Including me, nothing to do with the GFA

friendfroma

[font=Helvetica, Arial, freesans, sans-serif]Hi lads, I have a question about this whole thing. I understand this is upsetting some people and that's not my intention, I'm just trying to get an answer.[/font]


I was meant to be moving to Dublin over the coming years to take up work but because some absolute tools somehow thought Brexit was a good idea I'm not longer going to be allowed to just work there and so naturally am applying for an Irish passport. Apologies again if this upsets anybody, I know a few lads on here are a bit frustrated that people seem to be using Ireland as a passport farm.

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Anyway, my mother was born in Northern Ireland but has only ever used a British passport and I was born in England. I can't work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's never claimed an Irish passport because she was born there, and whether or not I therefore am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Luckily, my two grandparents are from the North but only ever have Irish passports, so I can fall back on that, but naturally it's much easier if I can work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's not got an Irish passport and if I am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks lads, if this is the wrong place some pointers of where to take my ball would be great.[/font]

Pro Hoc Vice

wokingvoter wrote: »

Including me, nothing to do with the GFA

Yes it is the Good Friday Agreement sets out the tight of NI citizens to pick either or both citizens. A person is entitled in Irish law to hold dual citizenship the Good Friday Agreement enshrines in law the right of a NI citizen who has never been in ROI to pick that citizenship.

Barry Badrinath

friendfroma wrote: »

[font=Helvetica, Arial, freesans, sans-serif]Hi lads, I have a question about this whole thing. I understand this is upsetting some people and that's not my intention, I'm just trying to get an answer.[/font]


I was meant to be moving to Dublin over the coming years to take up work but because some absolute tools somehow thought Brexit was a good idea I'm not longer going to be allowed to just work there and so naturally am applying for an Irish passport. Apologies again if this upsets anybody, I know a few lads on here are a bit frustrated that people seem to be using Ireland as a passport farm.

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Anyway, my mother was born in Northern Ireland but has only ever used a British passport and I was born in England. I can't work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's never claimed an Irish passport because she was born there, and whether or not I therefore am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Luckily, my two grandparents are from the North but only ever have Irish passports, so I can fall back on that, but naturally it's much easier if I can work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's not got an Irish passport and if I am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks lads, if this is the wrong place some pointers of where to take my ball would be great.[/font]

See paragraph 4

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

Pro Hoc Vice

friendfroma wrote: »

[font=Helvetica, Arial, freesans, sans-serif]Hi lads, I have a question about this whole thing. I understand this is upsetting some people and that's not my intention, I'm just trying to get an answer.[/font]


I was meant to be moving to Dublin over the coming years to take up work but because some absolute tools somehow thought Brexit was a good idea I'm not longer going to be allowed to just work there and so naturally am applying for an Irish passport. Apologies again if this upsets anybody, I know a few lads on here are a bit frustrated that people seem to be using Ireland as a passport farm.

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Anyway, my mother was born in Northern Ireland but has only ever used a British passport and I was born in England. I can't work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's never claimed an Irish passport because she was born there, and whether or not I therefore am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Luckily, my two grandparents are from the North but only ever have Irish passports, so I can fall back on that, but naturally it's much easier if I can work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's not got an Irish passport and if I am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks lads, if this is the wrong place some pointers of where to take my ball would be great.[/font]

Not sure if you qualify but a good expert on the law will be able to answer.

kneemos

friendfroma wrote: »

[font=Helvetica, Arial, freesans, sans-serif]Hi lads, I have a question about this whole thing. I understand this is upsetting some people and that's not my intention, I'm just trying to get an answer.[/font]


I was meant to be moving to Dublin over the coming years to take up work but because some absolute tools somehow thought Brexit was a good idea I'm not longer going to be allowed to just work there and so naturally am applying for an Irish passport. Apologies again if this upsets anybody, I know a few lads on here are a bit frustrated that people seem to be using Ireland as a passport farm.

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Anyway, my mother was born in Northern Ireland but has only ever used a British passport and I was born in England. I can't work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's never claimed an Irish passport because she was born there, and whether or not I therefore am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Luckily, my two grandparents are from the North but only ever have Irish passports, so I can fall back on that, but naturally it's much easier if I can work out if my mum classes as an Irish citizen even though she's not got an Irish passport and if I am.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks lads, if this is the wrong place some pointers of where to take my ball would be great.[/font]

A northern Irish passport is still an EU one.Dunno the rules though.

Del2005

CaraMay wrote: »

Yeah I suppose I don't think your entitlement should be generated from grandparents, parents I understand but grandparents is too far back.

If Grandparents where banned we'd have no soccer team, and I don't even like soccer.

wokingvoter

If your mother was born on the island of Ireland then she is an Irish citizen and entitled to an Irish passport
She is also a British citizen and entitled to a British passport
At the same time
Once she has her Irish passport you will also be entitled to both
Best of luck
Edited to add actually I don't think she even needs an Irish passport, her birth certificate will do

MissFlitworth

CaraMay wrote: »

We can't mind the people we have here right now never mind people who had no interest until Brexit

They're not planning on moving here, just retaining their rights as EU citizens.

wokingvoter

MissFlitworth wrote: »

They're not planning on moving here, just retaining their rights as EU citizens.

The levels of xenophobia and jingoism from Irish people since this story broke on Friday have put anything any NF thug ever said in the halpenny place!

friendfroma

wokingvoter wrote: »

If your mother was born on the island of Ireland then she is an Irish citizen and entitled to an Irish passport
She is also a British citizen and entitled to a British passport
At the same time
Once she has her Irish passport you will also be entitled to both
Best of luck
Edited to add actually I don't think she even needs an Irish passport, her birth certificate will do

Thank you, i'm still slightly confused.

Does she need a passport before she is/ I'm an Irish citizen or is she one even with just a Brit passport, and therefore I am?

It's so confusing! I don't know whether or not I can just send off a first time application or whether or not I need to register on the foreign births register.

RobertKK

Tony Blair was clever when he got Irish citizenship for his children years before the rush.

wokingvoter

friendfroma wrote: »

Thank you, i'm still slightly confused.

Does she need a passport before she is/ I'm an Irish citizen or is she one even with just a Brit passport, and therefore I am?

It's so confusing! I don't know whether or not I can just send off a first time application or whether or not I need to register on the foreign births register.

I know it's confusing but you are an Irish citizen and are entitled to an Irish passport so just go right ahead and apply tomorrow
You need her birth certificate as part of your application

friendfroma

wokingvoter wrote: »

friendfroma wrote: »

Thank you, i'm still slightly confused.

Does she need a passport before she is/ I'm an Irish citizen or is she one even with just a Brit passport, and therefore I am?

It's so confusing! I don't know whether or not I can just send off a first time application or whether or not I need to register on the foreign births register.

I know it's confusing but you are an Irish citizen and are entitled to an Irish passport so just go right ahead and apply tomorrow
You need her birth certificate as part of your application

Thank you so much for your help!

wokingvoter

friendfroma wrote: »

Thank you so much for your help! I hope this causes no bad feeling for the great Irish people with English people seeming like they're using it as a back up.

No bad feeling amongst intelligent non-moronic Irish people who understand that everyone must do what they have to do to get on in this world

OldMrBrennan83

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