racist?

from_atozinc

So, you know when an Irish person comes back from holiday and they have got a nice tan etc , and somebody says to them, "God, great tan, your black" is this racist?

Walter H Price

NO , not even a little bit :P

Allinall

from_atozinc wrote: »

So, you know when an Irish person comes back from holiday and they have got a nice tan etc , and somebody says to them, "God, great tan, your black" is this racist?

I once got thrown out of a casino for saying "Twenty on black".

It's ridiculous , Joe.

Outlaw Pete

Only if the person was actually black.

Your Face

I'd like to be the first person to mention the following:

Hitler

Winterlong

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Only if the person was actually black.

Or a Black and Tan....they hated the 'tan' abbreviation.

s4uv3

No. Definitely not racist.

OldNotWIse

It's an adjective. It describes the state of the person. I asked for a white roll in the deli yesterday. Is that racist? Maybe only if I asked for a brown one.

SEPT 23 1989

I need a lie down in my safe space after reading that

El Weirdo

Racist? No.

Bad grammar? Totally.

beach_walker

Back in the day, common knowledge around the playground that black people only went to the beach to get a tan on their palms and soles of their feet. Now that's racist.

from_atozinc

El Weirdo wrote: »

Racist? No.

Bad grammar? Totally.

Ah stop, you are gas, simply gas. My sides are killing me.

Hande hoche!

Nope, just observational.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I need a lie down in my safe space after reading that

Triggered.

wakka12

**** sake its not said in a derogatory way obviously its not racist

mahoganygas

Last week I made 3 cups of tea for some friends that called over. I counted wrong and left one of them out to which he replied "what, am I black?".

Now THAT is racist.
Plenty of Irish people still use it.

Also, Mary O'Rourke's comment a few years ago. She blamed it on her generation always using that saying.
Is it excusable?

weisses

from_atozinc wrote: »

So, you know when an Irish person comes back from holiday and they have got a nice tan etc , and somebody says to them, "God, great tan, your black" is this racist?

Not gonna happen

It will be more in the line of .. Welcome back ..You look like a feckin lobster

Duggy747

Man: "Hi, I'd like to order the Irish breakfast please?"

Waiter: "Sure thing"

Man: "Eh, can I replace the pudding with something else? I don't like the black one."

Waiter: *TRIGGERED*

spurious

mahoganygas wrote: »

Also, Mary O'Rourke's comment a few years ago. She blamed it on her generation always using that saying.
Is it excusable?

No, especially since it's been pointed out how offensive it is. She likes to play the country bumpkin, but she's an educated woman. No excuse.

from_atozinc

wakka12 wrote: »

**** sake its not said in a derogatory way obviously its not racist

Are you 110% sure on this?

Badly Drunk Boy

A few years ago, my brother entered a team in the official Premier League fantasy football competition. For the first half of the season, he only had white players on his team. For the second half, he only picked from non-whites. (They were called The Black & Tans.)

Was that racist?

(I forgot to ask him which team did better.)

wakka12

from_atozinc wrote: »

Are you 110% sure on this?

Em yes because tan is seen as desirable here. On the other hand if somebody said to a black person are you sick you're so pale, you look like a white person. That'd be quite 'racist' not that Id give a **** if somebody said that

AnonoBoy

mahoganygas wrote: »

Last week I made 3 cups of tea for some friends that called over. I counted wrong and left one of them out to which he replied "what, am I black?".

Now THAT is racist.
Plenty of Irish people still use it.

I've never heard someone say that I don't think.

robbiezero

from_atozinc wrote: »

Are you 110% sure on this?

Why are you so worried about it?
Maybe steer clear of mentioning any color in a sentence just to be on the safe side.

Bongalongherb

The strange thing about Irish folk is that they mostly strain themselves to rush out and get a brown tan while on their other side slag brown people for being brown or dark skinned, but they either lay under a tanning machine or sit in the sun for months to look like the folk they bully. Whacko stuff indeed.

wakka12

Bongalongherb wrote: »

The strange thing about Irish folk is that they mostly strain themselves to rush out and get a brown tan while on their other side slag brown people for being brown or dark skinned, but they either lay under a tanning machine or sit in the sun for months to look like the folk they bully. Whacko stuff indeed.

I think its more their features and appearance than solly their skin colour, a black person for instance wouldnt look like a european person if their skin colour were to be the same colour as europeans , they'd look like a black person with pale skin

Badly Drunk Boy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I've never heard someone say that I don't think.

I used to hear that a lot, and sometimes still do. Even though it stems from racist beginnings, there usually isn't any malice involved.

Bongalongherb wrote: »

The strange thing about Irish folk is that they mostly strain themselves to rush out and get a brown tan while on their other side slag brown people for being brown or dark skinned, but they either lay under a tanning machine or sit in the sun for months to look like the folk they bully. Whacko stuff indeed.

I think you could (and should) change that to 'white folk'. I'm sure this happens more in countries like America, Australia, or elsewhere in Europe rather than in Ireland (although it obviously does happen here too). It's easier to bronze yourself (by sun) in countries that have the weather for it.


And amazingly, not all white supremacists are goths/anaemic-looking! :pac:

AnonoBoy

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I used to hear that a lot, and sometimes still do. Even though it stems from racist beginnings, there usually isn't any malice involved.

People probably don't say it around me because I'm black I suppose.

harry Bailey esq

A favourite term of and old employer of mine was to slip an extra 50 into my hand at the end of the week and say 'get yourself a few jars,you worked like a black this week' i never misconstrued it as racism, I just think it's because he was of an older vintage than myself, and the term would have been in common use when he was my age.

ThisRegard

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I've never heard someone say that I don't think.

You must be one of those fordeners I hear about so trying to take my job.


OP, we're all still waiting for you to finish off your story, your black what?

Letree

Its race appropriation to even want a tan in the first place.

Hande hoche!

Letree wrote: »

Its race appropriation to even want a tan in the first place.

True,it's right up there with skin whitening creams.

RWCNT

from_atozinc wrote: »

So, you know when an Irish person comes back from holiday and they have got a nice tan etc , and somebody says to them, "God, great tan, your black" is this racist?

That is very racist.

You are also a racist for asking.

AnonoBoy

RWCNT wrote: »

That is very racist.

You are also a racist for asking.

You're a racist for saying it's racist too though.

It's all a very slippery slope.

osarusan

AnonoBoy wrote: »

slope.

Racist.

Bongalongherb

AnonoBoy wrote: »

People probably don't say it around me because I'm black I suppose.

I'm so white that I'm almost translucent. Walking through O'Connell street people keep bumping into me as if they cannot see me, or as if I don't exist.

I'm not white, I'm not brown, I'm not black but I'm translucent. I'm invisible to most folk and they walk through me.

Bongalongherb

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You're a racist for saying it's racist too though.

It's all a very slippery slope.

It's just political correctness in 2016 intelligence.

from_atozinc

ThisRegard wrote: »

You must be one of those fordeners I hear about so trying to take my job.


OP, we're all still waiting for you to finish off your story, your black what?

I'm way too upset to finish it off.

sbsquarepants

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

A few years ago, my brother entered a team in the official Premier League fantasy football competition. For the first half of the season, he only had white players on his team. For the second half, he only picked from non-whites. (They were called The Black & Tans.)

Was that racist?

(I forgot to ask him which team did better.)

Surely they should have been called the black and whites in that case?

BattleCorp

I'll jump in here. Is it ok to describe a black person as black or will I roast in hell for all eternity?

For example "Who is that black lad over there"?

Cork Lass

Letree wrote: »

Its race appropriation to even want a tan in the first place.

Just imagine getting a tan and dreadlocks all in the same week:eek: You'd nearly be jailed.

Badly Drunk Boy

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Surely they should have been called the black and whites in that case?

You can change the name at any time during the season. When it was the darker-skinned footballers they were 'The Black & Tans'. Knowing my brother, when he had white players, they were probably called 'White Power' or something. I forget...

Bongalongherb

I'm just waiting for someone to call the natural colours of the rainbow a new racist name, as above, so below. the colours of the electromagnetic spectrum even into gamma rays are a colour to behold, but when it comes to living beings, folk want to destroy a colour of this important connection out of ignorance and R-complex braindeadness.

RWCNT

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'll jump in here. Is it ok to describe a black person as black or will I roast in hell for all eternity?

For example "Who is that black lad over there"?

I think that's considered OK, but I'm a racist.

AnonoBoy

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I'm so white that I'm almost translucent. Walking through O'Connell street people keep bumping into me as if they cannot see me, or as if I don't exist.

I'm not white, I'm not brown, I'm not black but I'm translucent. I'm invisible to most folk and they walk through me.

Sounds like you're a ghost mate. Do you hang around with Haley Joel Osment a lot?

Bongalongherb

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Sounds like you're a ghost mate. Do you hang around with Haley Joel Osment a lot?

Of course not. But I do have the sixth sense.

xabi

I once came back from a holiday and someone said "you're like mahogany". Didn't bother me but the table we were sat at took offense.

from_atozinc

OldNotWIse wrote: »

It's an adjective. It describes the state of the person. I asked for a white roll in the deli yesterday. Is that racist? Maybe only if I asked for a brown one.

I think this is very racist. I hope the deli staff member reported you.

from_atozinc

robbiezero wrote: »

Why are you so worried about it?
Maybe steer clear of mentioning any color in a sentence just to be on the safe side.

I want to be sure I don't upset anyone. If I said this to the wrong person, I could end up in court or prison.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

Cork Lass wrote: »

Just imagine getting a tan and dreadlocks all in the same week:eek: You'd nearly be jailed.

Didn't he play for Mayo?

RobertKK

It's all black and white for me...

AnonoBoy

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Of course not. But I do have the sixth sense.

You can travel through time? :eek: