Exploitation in the Irish construction industry

nelbot

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/0128/763709-bogus-self-employment/

nelbot

This blasts all the naysayers arguments out of the water. It is real and has to be stopped.
http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2016/04/rebuilding-ireland-its-time-to-end_17.html

davo10

nelbot wrote: »

This blasts all the naysayers arguments out of the water. It is real and has to be stopped.
http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2016/04/rebuilding-ireland-its-time-to-end_17.html

You are joking aren't you? A left wing "think tank" puts forward an article of social issues, that is your trump card?

nelbot

davo10 wrote: »

You are joking aren't you? A left wing "think tank" puts forward an article of social issues, that is your trump card?

Recognised by the state broadcaster, being investigated by revenue and commented on by the minister of finance. You are really reaching now, this issue has been on the agenda of a number of state bodies and ngo's for quite awhile.

Kevwoody

nelbot wrote: »

This blasts all the naysayers arguments out of the water. It is real and has to be stopped.
http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2016/04/rebuilding-ireland-its-time-to-end_17.html

Op no one here is saying this isn't real, what people are saying is that when u apply for a job it is your responsibility to ensure that the terms and conditions are that of a paye worker.
This applies whether you get the job through paddy who drinks in your local and tells you to start in the morning, or a formal shirt and tie type interview.

What part of this can you not understand?

nelbot

Kevwoody wrote: »

Op no one here is saying this isn't real, what people are saying is that when u apply for a job it is your responsibility to ensure that the terms and conditions are that of a paye worker.
This applies whether you get the job through paddy who drinks in your local and tells you to start in the morning, or a formal shirt and tie type interview.

What part of this can you not understand?

I understand that completely now, this thread is not about that, it is about organising the workers in an attempt to stamp out the bogus self-employed status so the workers in the industry can have the same rights as other workers. What part of this can you not understand?

Kevwoody

nelbot wrote: »

I understand that completely now, this thread is not about that, it is about organising the workers in an attempt to stamp out the bogus self-employed status so the workers in the industry can have the same rights as other workers. What part of this can you not understand?

Ah Jesus I really do despair sometimes. Time to unfollow this thread

gctest50

nelbot wrote: »

This blasts all the naysayers arguments out of the water. It is real and has to be stopped.
http: //www.progressiveonomy.ie/2016/04/rebuilding-ireland-its-time-to-end_17.html

Now the water charges are suspended, I suppose the water protest crowd had to do something

Unite is at the forefront of Ireland’s Right2Water campaign, which has mobilised hundreds of thousands of people in the Republic against yet another austerity tax: water charges.

Alex Klemm

Alex Klemm works in communications at Unite the Union Ireland, and is also a translator. Alex is committed to helping deliver progressive social change, and believes that an imaginative communications strategy, professionally delivered, can enable under-resourced organisations to punch above their weight and make significant interventions in the public debate.

i'm sure everyone can use whois but anyway :

domain: progressive-economy.ie
descr: Research And Organisation Services Limited

person: Alex Klemm

nelbot

gctest50 wrote: »

Now the water charges are suspended, I suppose the water protest crowd had to do something

It must be awful for you when people win in the fight for their rights.

nelbot

Lip service from existing unions. They do nothing about it.
http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/false_economy_the_growth_of_bogus_self_employment_in_construction.pdf

Stheno

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