Formula 1 2016: Round 8 - European Grand Prix

Ghost Train

New race, looks narrow and could be unforgiving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv17suaccF0

Should be live on channel4

17th Jun
09:55 - Practice 1
13:55 - Practice 2 More4

18th Jun
10:55 - Practice 3
13:00 - Qualifying 14:00 Start

19th Jun
13:00 - Race 14:00 Start

flazio

FP2 is moved to More 4.
A couple of virtual laps from Riccardo and Palmer to look at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZuStK4qUq8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAMmQr7FjSc

Jordan 199

Ghost Train - qualifying starts at 2PM on Saturday and the race starts at 2PM on Sunday.

Saw it on Autosport.

Ghost Train

Yes, just pulled the times from channel4 f1, will update above times

Harika

https://twitter.com/BakuCityCircuit/status/743699706568597504

https://twitter.com/charlie_whiting/status/743708357538643969

Good start for the organisation :eek:

HighLine

This curb needs to be removed. Cars look very clumsy going around it... if they don't go over it.

https://twitter.com/C4F1/status/743731070588227584

Zcott

Track looks fantastic, but yes, they do look clumsy going around that kerb. It's to really slow them down as much as possible before that section.

TheDoctor

That main straight seems to go on forever!

And that bit by the castle is very narrow!

TheDoctor

Vettel on board lap

http://www.skysports.com/iframe/widget/video/g2OGI3NDE6emyO5zLq4X4ZetwwB2kulu#ooid=g2OGI3NDE6emyO5zLq4X4ZetwwB2kulu

Harika

Vettel still very caution, I hope, cause the first bit of the track looks painful with the stop and go sections. The castle part on the other hand amazing, with then some quick fluid corners that look okay.

skipper_G

They are doing some serious speeds on that main straight, 350 kph

AMKC

So Riccardo is the first ever victim of the walls at Baku.

Harika

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/36561850

Track seems to cut tyres. So FP2 start now in doubt. GP2 Training has been delayed until after F1 Fp2 :rolleyes:

Harika

All went as planned, but if you look at all the yellows and virtual safety car times, this might be a very interesting race. I would wonder if there is no VSC or SC during the race.

Charlie-Bravo

If someone drops it into the barrier on the tight and twisty part, there is very little space to recover cars. It'll be more a safety car situation or even a red flag if its two cars who tangle together!

Ghost Train

Jenson seemed slightly concerned about there being not so much run off. Probably has a point, 350kph on street circuit must feel pretty fast

Itssoeasy

astrofluff wrote: »

If someone drops it into the barrier on the tight and twisty part, there is very little space to recover cars. It'll be more a safety car situation or even a red flag if its two cars who tangle together!

Yeah the part by the castle at turns 8 and 9 won't be moved easy. The bits I've seen Baku itself looks great and the track itself seems to offer a challenge.

skipper_G

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah the part by the castle at turns 8 and 9 won't be moved easy. The bits I've seen Baku itself looks great and the track itself seems to offer a challenge.

I think that was where the concern was, If somebody dumped it in the barrier there it would be a high chance the track would be impassable.

Itssoeasy

skipper_G wrote: »

I think that was where the concern was, If somebody dumped it in the barrier there it would be a high chance the track would be impassable.

And if during the race two cars close together and the one if front put it in the barrier the guy behind won't have much time to react.

If the track became impassable at that point do the cars behind just stop in place if it's red flagged ?

Harika

Itssoeasy wrote: »

If the track became impassable at that point do the cars behind just stop in place if it's red flagged ?

Yes, we had that case in Monaco some years ago.

Itssoeasy

Harika wrote: »

Yes, we had that case in Monaco some years ago.

Didn't the cars go back to the grid on that occasion though ? Or are you thinking of an occasion further back ?

skipper_G

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Didn't the cars go back to the grid on that occasion though ? Or are you thinking of an occasion further back ?

Wasn't there a traffic jam at the hairpin in the 2000 race? Might be out by a year or two

Harika

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Didn't the cars go back to the grid on that occasion though ? Or are you thinking of an occasion further back ?

yes, red flag means restart

Frank Bullitt

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12928/10316692/lewis-hamilton-urges-his-fellow-formula-1-drivers-to-stop-moaning


Something about a pot and kettle come to mind reading this.

skipper_G

Gintonious wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12928/10316692/lewis-hamilton-urges-his-fellow-formula-1-drivers-to-stop-moaning


Something about a pot and kettle come to mind reading this.

Exactly, how many times has he moaned about trivial things in his career

Itssoeasy

Gintonious wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12928/10316692/lewis-hamilton-urges-his-fellow-formula-1-drivers-to-stop-moaning


Something about a pot and kettle come to mind reading this.

Oh that's rich coming from Hamilton. He moans loads and if things don't go his way you'll see the big pissed off head on him.

I took it that jenson was commenting on the issues as head to the drivers association ?

skipper_G

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Oh that's rich coming from Hamilton. He moans loads and if things don't go his way you'll see the big pissed off head on him.

I took it that jenson was commenting on the issues as head to the drivers association ?

Jenson was talking about safety measures particularly through the tighter corners with little or no runoff areas

Jordan 199

Tomorrow will be a crazy for me. Ireland v Belgium, Le Mans, and qualifying for the Azerbaijan GP will all start at the same time :eek:

That means I will be watching the TV, laptop and tablet at the same time :eek: :eek: :eek:

Charlie-Bravo

If there's an incident, and it's quite possible this will happen at turns 8 and 9 within the first two laps, you'll have a complete restart with those badly damaged removed from the race.

And if a red flag happens thereafter, they'll be brought to the pit lane in race order and the teams can work on cars (it'll be a safety car restart for first last I reckon).

Here's another thing, if it happens to block the track fully, there's no way an F1 car could tick over waiting for the blockage to clear so then you'll have a queue of cars with engines switched off. That's not going to be easy to recover all those cars for a restart.

Lots to consider but I suppose we just have to wait and see!!

Frank Bullitt

How ironic would it be now, for Hamilton to crash this weekend.

AMKC

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Tomorrow will be a crazy for me. Ireland v Belgium, Le Mans, and qualifying for the Azerbaijan GP will all start at the same time :eek:

That means I will be watching the TV, laptop and tablet at the same time :eek: :eek: :eek:

You can overdo it too you know. Why not record one of them and watch the other two. Me I will record the match and watch the F1. Might watch a few bits of the Le Mans recorded but I am not in too that that much just curious to see if anything big happens in it.

skipper_G

Kerbs removed on the exit of turns 6 & 12 and some change to the pit entry made overnight. Clearly there were some valid reasons for the drivers concerns yesterday.

And as for Hamilton moaning about drivers moaning. According to Rosberg he was also moaning about the pit entry privately

Harika

If the GP2 race is an omen, we will have a mess of a race ahead of us.

Itssoeasy

Harika wrote: »

If the GP2 race is an omen, we will have a mess of a race ahead of us.

Why what happened ?

Harika

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Why what happened ?

Several safety cars, and the crews at the circuit waving the wrong flags. And only 10 finishers

Jimoslimos

Gintonious wrote: »

How ironic would it be now, for Hamilton to crash this weekend.

Unfortunate, but that wouldn't be irony.

An example of irony would be if say a crash occurred to Button or Rosberg as a result of a car losing grip on the paint markings (put down to replace unsafe kerbs).

skipper_G

Grandstands completely empty for qualifying

skipper_G

Gearbox penalty for Checo after he crashed in final practice. Crap, Force India is looking pretty racey this weekend. Maybe Hulk might finally have that first podium?

bnt

skipper_G wrote: »

Grandstands completely empty for qualifying

I agree with DC - the locals can't afford it. Azerbaijan is working hard at becoming a modern democratic country with a balanced economy, but it's not quite there yet.

conzy

Excited to watch this. Looks very tight and the long straights should be exciting too.

Am I right in saying the gear ratios are now set at the start of the season and some people will be on the limiter on these long straights. Have some teams gone with a very long top gear or would that cost them too much on the other races throughout the year?

bnt

Verstappen hit 354 km/h (220 mph) on the straight thanks to slipstreaming.

Ghost Train

McLaren a bit late out, Button needs to get a lap in

bnt

Ghost Train wrote: »

McLaren a bit late out, Button needs to get a lap in

He did, and was safe for literally one second before being pushed back down to the exclusion zone by Haryanto. Can he get another in? Nope.

skipper_G

conzy wrote: »

Excited to watch this. Looks very tight and the long straights should be exciting too.

Am I right in saying the gear ratios are now set at the start of the season and some people will be on the limiter on these long straights. Have some teams gone with a very long top gear or would that cost them too much on the other races throughout the year?

I think you're right, they changed that back in 2014 as far as I remember

Ghost Train

bnt wrote: »

He did, and was safe for literally one second before being pushed back down to the exclusion zone by Haryanto. Can he get another in? Nope.

Bit of a screw up, could have been caught with traffic or just not hooking up good lap

skipper_G

Impressive lap time from Haryanto! Wasn't far away from Q2 only a tenth

Harika

skipper_G wrote: »

Impressive lap time from Haryanto! Wasn't far away from Q2 only a tenth

in quali he gives the super talent Wehrlein a run for his money.

chicorytip

As a television spectacle it's completely lacking in excitement and atmosphere.

skipper_G

Harika wrote: »

in quali he gives the super talent Wehrlein a run for his money.

True, I thought he was just an also ran pay driver. He's proving my assumption wrong

Ghost Train

Hamilton in 10th only

skipper_G

And a mistake! Under pressure now