Dacia duster

Green farmer

Anyone using a 4 x4 Dacia duster as a farmers car ? Any good ? Seem to have good off road ability and economical to run.

bullnuts

Green farmer wrote: »

Anyone using a 4 x4 Dacia duster as a farmers car ? Any good ? Seem to have good off road ability and economical to run.

Off road ability would be carrying the children to a show and parking in a field ! That's about it ! Wouldn't pull much and wheel bearings wouldn't take much rough ground ! That' would be my guess but I could be very wrong !

I said

Green farmer wrote: »

Anyone using a 4 x4 Dacia duster as a farmers car ? Any good ? Seem to have good off road ability and economical to run.

Too light

Green farmer

I said wrote: »

Too light

Then a full sized keep yes, but as an alternative to mondeo / passet ? Light farm work.

X6.430macman

I'd rather walk then be embarrassed driving one of them

MF290

The lad I went to in Germany had one. I didn't drive it that much but it seemed ok. He loved it altogether, he even said he preferred to his top of the range bmw X5 It was used as a car and for tipping around on all the farm roadways. I would nearly rather one to the berlingo just for the extra ground clearance and four wheel drive. I'm not sure what they're like for reliability though

Reggie.

X6.430macman wrote: »

I'd rather walk then be embarrassed driving one of them

Parents are on their second one atm and no problems with it. Now they use it as a car really but loads of room in it and the boot and plenty of poke in it on the road

freshpopcorn

I know somebody with one and it seems to have given them a bit of bother for a new car. (All covered under warranty) Some people seem like them tough and there meant to be very economical.
I'd be turned off them myself due to the cabin feeling cheapish and them only having three NCAP stars if I was splashing out on a new car.

I said

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I know somebody with one and it seems to have given them a bit of bother for a new car. (All covered under warranty) Some people seem like them tough and there meant to be very economical.
I'd be turned off them myself due to the cabin feeling cheapish and them only having three NCAP stars if I was splashing out on a new car.

Yeah 3 stars very light for safety

Dawggone

X6.430macman wrote: »

I'd rather walk then be embarrassed driving one of them

Now now! Didn't I read a post from you saying something along the lines that a good tractor is never a bad color?

I drive a German jeep and my good neighbors Duster has rescued me more times than I care to admit.

I'd have a Dacia Duster in a heartbeat.

Green farmer

I said wrote: »

Yeah 3 stars very light for safety

I looked that up and It lost one star because entry level car doesn't have electronic stability control and another star as car doesn't have an audible seat belt reminder.

Reggie.

Green farmer wrote: »

I looked that up and It lost one star because entry level car doesn't have electronic stability control and another star as car doesn't have an audible seat belt reminder.

So silly things then

freshpopcorn

Green farmer wrote: »

I looked that up and It lost one star because entry level car doesn't have electronic stability control and another star as car doesn't have an audible seat belt reminder.

I think a issue was the boot opened during the test which could result in objected entering the vehicle or exiting it!

AMKC

bullnuts wrote: »

Off road ability would be carrying the children to a show and parking in a field ! That's about it ! Wouldn't pull much and wheel bearings wouldn't take much rough ground ! That' would be my guess but I could be very wrong !

You are wrong. Its very capable off road. Before it was even on sale here it was in sale in Europe and some journalists got one and went off roading in it through mud hills etc and it done it no problem. It might not be a LR Defender but it is as good or maybe even better than some more expensive cars like BMW X5 for instance. They are using proven engines and technology as well so are reliable too.

tanko

X6.430macman wrote: »

I'd rather walk then be embarrassed driving one of them

People used to say that about skoda years ago and Hyundai in recent years too.

kay 9

A 1.5 would be down on a lot of torque and towing ability compared to the 2.0 avensis etc. The chassis is based on the Renault scenic iirc and whilst comfortable would be bushing hungry if used on farm lanes for any period of time. They do have there place though I guess

Taltos

All depends on what load you intend to carry and how much of an incline you'd be traversing loaded and unloaded.

I've the 4x4 and while I genuinely love it and it's low mod cons I think I'd prefer go for something more traditional for real heavy lifting if needed. But for a runaround carrying say 120 to 200 kg in the back well worth the money. Have heard older ones have issues with rust but no sign yet apart from creaky doors and a faulty exhaust.

kerryjack

What price are they compared to say a real jeep

colm_mcm

Money wise you'd be looking at around €21500 for a 4wd model.

Not sure what a real jeep is TBH!

Top selling SUV in the country is the 1.7 Tucson, a 4wd version of those is €38000. A 2.2 Mitsubishi outalnder would be the same price.

Jeep Cheroke is €52k

Touareg would be about €70k

X6.430macman

Dawggone wrote:

Now now! Didn't I read a post from you saying something along the lines that a good tractor is never a bad color?

Haha yes you may have,
But I sat into one at some car show once and I thought it was awful, first of all how can a new car smell so bad, must have been the very cheep plastic, so cheap it's dangerous to breath in!

Green farmer

colm_mcm wrote: »

Money wise you'd be looking at around €21500 for a 4wd model.

Not sure what a real jeep is TBH!

Top selling SUV in the country is the 1.7 Tucson, a 4wd version of those is €38000. A 2.2 Mitsubishi outalnder would be the same price.

Jeep Cheroke is €52k

Touareg would be about €70k

Sort of sums it up. By the time 20k would buy you one of the more expensive ones, their a few years old with 100,000 plus Km's on the clock and no manufacturers warranty left.

I said

Reggie. wrote: »

So silly things then

I don't think a seat belt reminder is a silly little thing.If it saves one life.

colm_mcm

Green farmer wrote: »

Sort of sums it up. By the time 20k would buy you one of the more expensive ones, their a few years old with 100,000 plus Km's on the clock and no manufacturers warranty left.

Isn't this the eternal argument with everything though, buy a new 85hp Kubota or a 6 year old 120hp Massey. There not the same thing and you have to buy something that will actually do what you need it to do.

I said wrote: »

I don't think a seat belt reminder is a silly little thing.If it saves one life.

It wasn't just the seatbelt reminder, or stickers missing, or no ESP that stopped it getting 5 stars though, a side door opened in one test, and the structure is not strong enough to get 5 stars IMO. The Dacia is based on the old old model Clio platform.
If it's any consolation it would have easily got 4 or even 5 stars on the pre 2009 NCAP test which was much easier in comparison to the current one.
The 06 type land cruisers and Rav4s only got 4 stars on the old easier system so it's all relative.

Bullocks

Dawggone wrote: »

Now now! Didn't I read a post from you saying something along the lines that a good tractor is never a bad color?

I drive a German jeep and my good neighbors Duster has rescued me more times than I care to admit.

I'd have a Dacia Duster in a heartbeat.

Is it the X5 ? The brother has one and it would start spinning on a cow ****e . Apart from that it's lovely to drive .
Nothing wrong with the Dacia for Tue price of them I think

kerryjack

Well its like this if you had a choice of a 4 year old Toyota landcruser or a new duster I know which one I would take it would have to be the Toyota

whelan2

tanko wrote: »

People used to say that about skoda years ago and Hyundai in recent years too.

remember Lada

Reggie.

I said wrote: »

I don't think a seat belt reminder is a silly little thing.If it saves one life.

Now if you need a beeper to remind ya to put on a seat belt while driving a car you have bigger issues to worry about. They have a beeper for the seatbelt btw

Nekarsulm

Bullocks wrote: »

Is it the X5 ? The brother has one and it would start spinning on a cow ****e . Apart from that it's lovely to drive .
Nothing wrong with the Dacia for Tue price of them I think

I'd be disappointed if the Dawg was toolin around in an X5.
G Wagen in my minds eye.... but like Oliver Walston

If people insist on buying Rangeys and ML's with tyres a foot wide and an inch high, they can't be surprised if they get stuck on a damp patch of grass......

Never wrestle with pigs

It is what it is, a cheap new car that hasn't all the bells and whistles. I think Dacia use old Renault parts from the 90s and 00s (the parts that worked)

Handy runaround car that's suppost to be fairly reliable I hear from a friend that works on them.

I'd say it would do handy work but don't expect it to tow much or go sumwhere that a landcruiser would face.

I said

Reggie. wrote: »

Now if you need a beeper to remind ya to put on a seat belt while driving a car you have bigger issues to worry about. They have a beeper for the seatbelt btw

Not I first thing I do before the key goes in the ignition

Green farmer

kerryjack wrote: »

Well its like this if you had a choice of a 4 year old Toyota landcruser or a new duster I know which one I would take it would have to be the Toyota

For heavy towing, there's only one winner, but the landcruiser ain't without flaw either.

Jimmy Garlic

whelan2 wrote: »

remember Lada

I do yeah. Awful basic , but not too bad reliability wise as there isn't much to go wrong. They did manage to make a half decent 4x4, the Niva. Pity it only came in petrol. They are a fairly tough yolk all the same.

Jimmy Garlic

Green farmer wrote: »

For heavy towing, there's only one winner, but the landcruiser ain't without flaw either.

The xtrail is surprisingly good to tow and the commercial ones have about the same space in the back as a landcruiser

Dawggone

X6.430macman wrote: »

Haha yes you may have,
But I sat into one at some car show once and I thought it was awful, first of all how can a new car smell so bad, must have been the very cheep plastic, so cheap it's dangerous to breath in!

Smellonomics??
There's a place for you alongside that silly ginge on new top gear...

Green farmer

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The xtrail is surprisingly good to tow and the commercial ones have about the same space in the back as a landcruiser

Is that the new or previous model ?

Dawggone

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I'd be disappointed if the Dawg was toolin around in an X5.
G Wagen in my minds eye.... but like Oliver Walston

If people insist on buying Rangeys and ML's with tyres a foot wide and an inch high, they can't be surprised if they get stuck on a damp patch of grass......

You denigrating my Frontera Nek??

Nekarsulm

Dawggone wrote: »

You denigrating my Frontera Nek??

Nothing wrong with a badge engineered Isuzu, Dawg.....

Dawggone

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a badge engineered Isuzu, Dawg.....

Helluva yoke. Failed to kill one many moons ago...

kay 9

Green farmer wrote: »

For heavy towing, there's only one winner, but the landcruiser ain't without flaw either.

The landcruiser towing capacity is limited to approximately 2800kg compared to the discovery, defender and pajero at 3500. The dmax is a great machine with a trailer but I'm not sure of the legal towing capacity on paper.

Matt Markinson

It's a bit stupid comparing a Landcruiser to a Duster, at least compare like with like, including warranty and price, i.e. a Rav4. And recent Toyota's are certainly nothing to write home about, with cheap plastics and mechanical's. They are certainly no longer the high standard they once were. Neither is the Dacha of high standard mind, but it's not charging to be. It's certainly adequate if you want a reasonably reliable low price SUV as a family run about, and is holding is second hand value very well for what it is.

Jimmy Garlic

Green farmer wrote: »

Is that the new or previous model ?

I have no experience with the current model. The two models before the current one are good to tow.

djmc

whelan2 wrote: »

remember Lada

The only thing I remember about Lada is the bad looks and the jokes.

How do you double the price of a Lada ?
Fill it with petrol

Why did Lada fit a rear heated window?
To keep your hands warm when you're pushing it

What is the difference between a Lada and a johava witness?
You can't slam the door on a Lada.

From what i remember they were under 5k new and didn't even have a radio
Straight out of the cold war Russia.

bullnuts

AMKC wrote: »

You are wrong. Its very capable off road. Before it was even on sale here it was in sale in Europe and some journalists got one and went off roading in it through mud hills etc and it done it no problem. It might not be a LR Defender but it is as good or maybe even better than some more expensive cars like BMW X5 for instance. They are using proven engines and technology as well so are reliable too.

I dunno! Would take some convincing to get me investing on one for farm work tbh

colm_mcm

Matt Markinson wrote: »

It's a bit stupid comparing a Landcruiser to a Duster, at least compare like with like, including warranty and price, i.e. a Rav4. And recent Toyota's are certainly nothing to write home about, with cheap plastics and mechanical's. They are certainly no longer the high standard they once were. Neither is the Dacha of high standard mind, but it's not charging to be. It's certainly adequate if you want a reasonably reliable low price SUV as a family run about, and is holding is second hand value very well for what it is.

Toyota don't even do a 4wd diesel RAV4 anymore, that's how bad it's gone

They do a 2.5 petrol hybrid 4wd alright, but I suspect it's probably just an electric motor on the back axle to give a bit more reaction, you usen't be able to tow with Toyota hybrids when I sold them as it wrecked the hybrid system - but maybe it's changed.

I had heard the 4wd dusters have an extra short first gear, obv they don't have a low ratio box, but the short first gear would be handy for towing or light off roading.

If you just needed something with a bit more ground clearance and more grip, for the money a duster kinda makes sense, for that sort of money you're looking at stuff like base model Astra/Focus etc.

Polo_Mint

I had a Duster

Never once had a technical problem

Could it drive over farmland? Yep

Could you drop the seats and carry a lot of stuff? sure

Could you Tow stuff? On the road yeah, On Farmland, I doubt it.

Its really going to depend on what you plan for it

Shermanator

The Mrs has a new one 2WD since January. Goes as well up hill fully loaded as it does with only one person in it. Despite the plastics not being top quality, it has all the mod cons, all electric, sat nav, blue tooth, etc.

Where it does fall down is the body work is very light. Easy to dent if you lean on it. When you open and close the doors you can feel the lack of substance.

The new model just out (Prestige they are calling it) has a higher spec including a reversing camera and reverse park sensors which would be handy for hitching up etc

_Brian

colm_mcm wrote: »

Toyota don't even do a 4wd diesel RAV4 anymore, that's how bad it's gone

They do a 2.5 petrol hybrid 4wd alright, but I suspect it's probably just an electric motor on the back axle to give a bit more reaction, you usen't be able to tow with Toyota hybrids when I sold them as it wrecked the hybrid system - but maybe it's changed.

I had heard the 4wd dusters have an extra short first gear, obv they don't have a low ratio box, but the short first gear would be handy for towing or light off roading.

If you just needed something with a bit more ground clearance and more grip, for the money a duster kinda makes sense, for that sort of money you're looking at stuff like base model Astra/Focus etc.

new rav4's just look like a people carrier now rather than a light jeep.

Muckit

Reggie. wrote: »

Now if you need a beeper to remind ya to put on a seat belt while driving a car you have bigger issues to worry about. They have a beeper for the seatbelt btw

I've seen lads shoving the clip of the passenger belt into drivers receiver just to cut out the buzzer and not wear a belt. Crackness

Polo_Mint

I'm pretty sure my 131 beeped if you didn't have a seat belt on. For the front seats anyways

whelan2

Muckit wrote: »

I've seen lads shoving the clip of the passenger belt into drivers receiver just to cut out the buzzer and not wear a belt. Crackness

OH never ever wears a seatbelt, drives me cracked. My point is even though he thinks he the best driver ever there are other fools on the road who are not. A guard actually came over to him in town the other day and asked him was he exempt from wearing a seatbelt. He didnt give him points.................

X6.430macman

Shermanator wrote:

Where it does fall down is the body work is very light. Easy to dent if you lean on it. When you open and close the doors you can feel the lack of substance.

I think all new cars are like that, just opening the doors on my yoke and you can hear the pure cheap tin in it. I suppose it's just the way it's gone.