2 year old taken by alligator at Disney Land resort Florida hotel

ceadaoin.

just saw this on the news. Horrific for the family involved. I know there are lots of alligators in Florida but attacks like this seem rare enough. Poor boy

2-year-old boy who was attacked and dragged into the water by an alligator on the shores of Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa Tuesday night was still missing early Wednesday morning.

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said rescue personnel had been actively searching for the child in the Seven Seas Lagoon but had not found him. The search was being called a recovery effort.

Demings said the Nebraska family of five was relaxing on the shoreline when the alligator attacked the boy. The father entered the water and tried to grab the child from the gator, but was not successful. He had scratches on his hands after the ordeal.

Parents then alerted a nearby lifeguard that an alligator had attacked the boy. Officials estimated it was between four and seven feet long.

genericguy

Let's ban alligators, it's the only solution.

gramar

Parents then alerted a nearby lifeguard that an alligator had attacked the boy. Officials estimated it was between four and seven feet long.

That's big two year old. They probably should have asked the parents too, they'd probably have a better idea of the childs size instead of estimating.

callaway92

gramar wrote: »

Parents then alerted a nearby lifeguard that an alligator had attacked the boy. Officials estimated it was between four and seven feet long.

That's big two year old. They probably should have asked the parents too, they'd probably have a better idea of the childs size instead of estimating.

How is this even remotely funny here?

Esel

gramar wrote: »

That's big two year old. They probably should have asked the parents too, they'd probably have a better idea of the childs size instead of estimating.

I hope you regret posting that.

Penny Tration

The poor kid.

eviltwin

Awful tragedy

Dolbert

That must have been so horrifying, poor baby

_Brian

Shocking stuff, must be a traumatising time for the family.

Flippyfloppy

ceadaoin. wrote: »

just saw this on the news. Horrific for the family involved. I know there are lots of alligators in Florida but attacks like this seem rare enough. Poor boy

Attacks are rare, however I remember from my time there warnings stating that you can assume there are alligators in every body of water. I know you wouldn't think it at a Disney resort though. Poor family and poor little angel.

vicwatson

Jesus h

mojesius

Very sad news. I hope there isn't the usual thoughtless reaction to this i.e. an alligator cull around Disney world or the greater Orlando area. Disney world need to ensure there is better public awareness about such risks. I read that there were 'no swimming' signs up but not 'alligator-infested water, do not enter' signs.

_Brian

mojesius wrote: »

Very sad news. I hope there isn't the usual thoughtless reaction to this i.e. an alligator cull around Disney world or the greater Orlando area. Disney world need to ensure there is better public awareness about such risks. I read that there were 'no swimming' signs up but not 'alligator-infested water, do not enter' signs.

Big mistake by Disney so if there were no warning signs.

failinis

I hope they can get their child back so they can atleast have a grave to go to.
Read this as soon as I woke up and..its just unthinkable. Poor parents

Boom_Bap

gramar wrote: »

Parents then alerted a nearby lifeguard that an alligator had attacked the boy. Officials estimated it was between four and seven feet long.

That's big two year old. They probably should have asked the parents too, they'd probably have a better idea of the childs size instead of estimating.

Come on now, not the most sensitive of things to post.

SEPT 23 1989

that's a lovely mental image to start the day

roykO

gramar wrote: »

Parents then alerted a nearby lifeguard that an alligator had attacked the boy. Officials estimated it was between four and seven feet long.

That's big two year old. They probably should have asked the parents too, they'd probably have a better idea of the childs size instead of estimating.

Posts like this don't actually bother me. What does is when they're painfully unfunny and just wreak of trying too hard.

Lollipops23

Absolutely horrific- his poor parents, I can't even begin to imagine the trauma of having to witness that.

I was in Florida last year for work- Estero, so off the beaten track somewhat. We were told not to enter *any* body of water unless it was a bath.

Poor Florida isn't having an easy time of it this week.

cowboyBuilder

Awful stuff, the poor kid.

RIP

Armchair Andy

Funk me that's an awful death. Would you succumb to shock or pain first? Trivial I know but if shock killed you in this instance you'd be better off.

Wibbs

You would drown most likely. Horrific tragedy for the family.

Oafley Jones

_Brian wrote: »

Big mistake by Disney so if there were no warning signs.

Horrible. I'm surprised they don't have signs, but I've never seen one at WDW. I think the mistake here is that they just assume that people wil be wary of any open bit of water. WDW is built around a giant man made lake called the Seven Seas Lagoon, with a bunch of hotels around the circumference. It's essentially a swamp. I know people used to go swimming in it, but the look alone should put you off going near it. Gators manage to get into the Parks themselves quite often. They're also protected, so it's a bit of an ordeal to get them moved on. It is their habitat after all.

Kamili

Poor family, they must be so upset. Heard on the news that both parents went into the water to try get him back.

What a horrible thing to happen to them.

biko

If only they would have had guns..

topper75

gramar wrote: »

That's big two year old.

callaway92 wrote: »

How is this even remotely funny here?

Esel wrote: »

I hope you regret posting that.

Gramar you are not thinking the correct thoughts.:eek:

Start thinking the correct thoughts NOW so we can make After Hours into a safe space!

You have offended callaway and Esel. They are offended on behalf of the family (who I'm pretty sure nobody here knows).

andekwarhola

Armchair Andy wrote: »

Funk me that's an awful death. Would you succumb to shock or pain first? Trivial I know but if shock killed you in this instance you'd be better off.

Think you just get pulled underwater and drowned. Poor child. How awful.

Not a chance I'd loiter beside or in water in a place like Florida.

IvyTheTerrible

topper75 wrote: »

Gramar you are not thinking the correct thoughts.:eek:

Start thinking the correct thoughts NOW so we can make After Hours into a safe space!

You have offended callaway and Esel. They are offended on behalf of the family (who I'm pretty sure nobody here knows).

It's nothing to do with thinking "correct thoughts", you don't have to know the family to find nothing funny about the horrific death of a two year old.

bear1

topper75 wrote: »

Gramar you are not thinking the correct thoughts.:eek:

Start thinking the correct thoughts NOW so we can make After Hours into a safe space!

You have offended callaway and Esel. They are offended on behalf of the family (who I'm pretty sure nobody here knows).

Seriously? A 2 year old boy is taken by an alligator in front of his parents who God knows what are going through right now and a poster tries to make a ****ty joke about it?
At least you are getting AH back to normal now.
Just picture a 2 year old child being helplessly dragged into a lake to suffer a painful death.. Picture the father jumping in as he tries to pull his child out and fail.
idiotic posts sound like complete tripe once you envisage it.

ibarelycare

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Horrible. I'm surprised they don't have signs, but I've never seen one at WDW. I think the mistake here is that they just assume that people wil be wary of any open bit of water. WDW is built around a giant man made lake called the Seven Seas Lagoon, with a bunch of hotels around the circumference. It's essentially a swamp. I know people used to go swimming in it, but the look alone should put you off going near it. Gators manage to get into the Parks themselves quite often. They're also protected, so it's a bit of an ordeal to get them moved on. It is their habitat after all.

I read somewhere that, for safety, Disneyworld traps the alligators when they grow over two feet, and relocates them. Obviously this one slipped through the net (literally).




Such an awful freak thing to happen. Enjoying a family holiday and then this. Those poor parents, as well as their other children for witnessing such a thing.

Third shocking tragedy in less than a week in Orlando

Tipperary Fairy

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

It's nothing to do with thinking "correct thoughts", you don't have to know the family to find nothing funny about the horrific death of a two year old.

Yes but you can just ignore it.

I'm surprised people in Florida don't just assume you can't go in the water. Going to Cairns myself soon and I'll sure as hell be staying away, and making myself aware of other potential dangers.

callaway92

topper75 wrote: »

Gramar you are not thinking the correct thoughts.:eek:

Start thinking the correct thoughts NOW so we can make After Hours into a safe space!

You have offended callaway and Esel. They are offended on behalf of the family (who I'm pretty sure nobody here knows).

What fúcking drugs are you on at all?

Oafley Jones

ibarelycare wrote: »

I read somewhere that, for safety, Disneyworld traps the alligators when they grow over two feet, and relocates them. Obviously this one slipped through the net (literally).

They do, but Disney World's property is over 60 square kilometres. That's a lot of real estate to patrol.

sullivlo

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

Yes but you can just ignore it.

I'm surprised people in Florida don't just assume you can't go in the water. Going to Cairns myself soon and I'll sure as hell be staying away, and making myself aware of other potential dangers.

Well that's great for you that you're being so aware of your surroundings and not putting yourself in danger :rolleyes:

Not everybody knows about the alligators in Florida. Yes, it's a swamp and all that jazz, but it's not the first thing that you think of. I'm guessing that if there were no big signs saying "Warning, Alligators in the lake", people will just assume that the no swim sign is for some other reason. I often walk through parks in Dublin that have signs up that say "Please don't walk on the grass", and low and behold there are people sitting having their lunch.

Also, it's a two year old child. They're not going to know the difference between a safe area to swim and an alligator infested lake.

It's hard to ignore the posts. They're mostly thanks-whoring. They're not even funny.

I'm not a parent. I'm also not easily offended and I have a dark enough sense of humour. But even I can see that there is a line crossed in some of the posts on here.

osarusan

Jesus Christ that's gruesome, and a moment the parents will relive every day for the rest of their lives.

topper75

callaway92 wrote: »

What fúcking drugs are you on at all?

Defending the right to make a joke means I'm high? OK then.

The poster you jumped on for joking was actually poking fun at the poor writing in the article.

But you saw someone who wasn't immediately all empathetic and got on the high horse over them.

That in itself is another joke.

*double checks forum title to be sure I'm not the one on the drugs*

Wanderer78

Dreadful story

TerrorFirmer

topper75 wrote: »

Defending the right to make a joke means I'm high? OK then.

The poster you jumped on for joking was actually poking fun at the poor writing in the article.

But you saw someone who wasn't immediately all empathetic and got on the high horse over them.

That in itself is another joke.

*double checks forum title to be sure I'm not the one on the drugs*

I actually agree with this completely. It's an internet forum. It's par for the course, and for the last some several odd thousand years it's a common enough mechanism to deal with tragic news. I'm sick of people taking it upon themselves to be offended for humanity at something they read on a largely anonymous internet forum. Yes, it's a horrific and tragic story. But grow the hell up and worry about your own life and not what some random stranger posts on an internet board.

Esel wrote:

I hope you regret posting that.

Yes, I can see it now, on his or her deathbed in the year 2089, tortured with guilt and afraid to face the reckoning that is due for that one post on boards.ie in 2016 making a jest at an article written about a tragic death in the US.

gramar

Esel wrote: »

I hope you regret posting that.

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Yes, I can see it now, on his or her deathbed in the year 2089, tortured with guilt and afraid to face the reckoning that is due for that one post on boards.ie in 2016 making a jest at an article written about a tragic death in the US.

The word that came to mind when I read that post was 'bizarre'.

As for 2089 TF...unlikely..I'll have been burnt at the stake before then if an alliga....aaaaaanyway.......

seamus

Apparently there were "no swimming" signs around the lagoon. Thing is that it's man-made, so you can see how easy it would be to assume that there's not going to be anything dangerous in it, and especially not when your child is paddling in shallow water.

The family were from Nebraska, which doesn't have alligators, whereas I'm sure people from southern states would have known to be on the lookout in any body of water.

Horrific for the family, can't even imagine what they're going through. I guess they're hoping they can recover a body, some closure that their baby didn't suffer.
Probably the hardest thing in the world to lose a child, but there seems to be something particularly chilling about something so primal happening to a person, as opposed to a car crash or something.

RobertKK

Orlando is really having a most awful week, tragedy after tragedy.
Singer Christina Grimmie murdered while doing a meet and greet with fans outside the concert venue she had performed in.
The attack and massacre at the Pulse nightclub.
Now an alligator attack and death of a two year old child in Orlando.

So much tragedy and sadness. So many families grieving for what was a needless loss of life, I don't know what precautions the family should or could have done in regards to the alligator attack.
I presume the attack might have been something like the crocodile attacks on the Wildebeest who are innocently beside the river and next thing a huge crocodile strikes and tries to take the wildebeest under water to drown.
Isn't it likely the alligator did something similar then ate the most unfortunate child. It is just horrific which is a theme for all those high profile deaths in Orlando in the past week, simply horrific.

Oafley Jones

seamus wrote: »

Apparently there were "no swimming" signs around the lagoon. Thing is that it's man-made, so you can see how easy it would be to assume that there's not going to be anything dangerous in it, and especially not when your child is paddling in shallow water.

It was used was swimming and water sports for years, even with the dangers of gators etc. The no swimming signs only appeared after a number of incidents relating to the water quality. It's a vast and murky bit of water that doesn't exactly give a welcoming impression.

smash

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Attacks are rare, however I remember from my time there warnings stating that you can assume there are alligators in every body of water. I know you wouldn't think it at a Disney resort though. Poor family and poor little angel.

I can't remember if it was Disney or Universal but when I was there, there was an alligator in one of the ponds and sign up saying "Don't feed the gators". There was a small fence on the shore line, but it wasn't in any way safe!

Cienciano

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

It's nothing to do with thinking "correct thoughts", you don't have to know the family to find nothing funny about the horrific death of a two year old.

Lots of comedians joke about far worst things. Humour is completely subjective.

ScumLord

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I know there are lots of alligators in Florida but attacks like this seem rare enough. Poor boy

Aligators probably wouldn't go near any adult human or group people. But a child is going to be fair game as far as any predator is concerned. A toddler of any species is going to be like a shining beacon to a predator because they know they're easy pickings. Once we leave the safety of our towns and cities children have to be watched, literally anything could have a go at them, from predators to sea gulls.

sullivlo wrote: »

Well that's great for you that you're being so aware of your surroundings and not putting yourself in danger :rolleyes:

Well, they should be. Ignorance of their immediate environment isn't an excuse. I realise we all get comfortable and forget the natural world is happening all around us, and it's worse in big urban areas, but we are still animals living in an environment at the end of a day. All our technology and culture doesn't change the fact that a lot of other living creatures look at us and see food. I would have thought living around these animals would have bred some respect rather than apathy.

valoren

Making quips and attempting lame jokes just after a two year old is killed?

The sociopath thread is thataway >>>>>>>>>

HensVassal

valoren wrote: »

Making quips and attempting lame jokes just after a two year old is killed?

The sociopath thread is thataway >>>>>>>>>

Says the guy who made a joke about 9/11 where 3000+ were killed.

topper75

valoren wrote: »

Making quips and attempting lame jokes just after a two year old is killed?

The sociopath thread is thataway >>>>>>>>>

Home > Topics > Social & Fun > After Hours

Yup I'm in the right place. I think maybe you were looking for the book of condolences?

valoren

HensVassal wrote: »

Says the guy who made a joke about 9/11 where 3000+ were killed.

Too soon?

A ****ty pun about a dog's honour parade? 9/11 a ruff time for us all?

Yeah, having a proper go at those who were killed I was there.

ScumLord

valoren wrote: »

Too soon?

No, the families and US government released a statement 4 years ago saying it was now ok to make jokes about the people that died 9/11.

topper75

Nobody laughed at the death of a child anyway. Which makes the high horse thing even more misplaced and amusing.

The low standard of the article was picked up on - typical internet 'journalism'. A hack article on a bizarre event. That was the butt of the joke. The event was also tragic but being sombre on an internet forum thousands of miles away does absolutely nothing to reverse that. So I don't really know what those posters are calling for.

It's one thing not to like or not to identify with something somebody else writes on an internet forum.

It's quite another thing to demand that everyone feels a certain correct way about an incident as you perceive it. That is just thought police nonsense. It doesn't belong anywhere on the internet, least of all on After Hours which has years of tradition of a wry, tongue-in-cheek look at the world that refuses to leave the path of any sacred cow.

Long may that continue.

valoren

topper75 wrote: »

Nobody laughed at the death of a child anyway. Which makes the high horse thing even more misplaced and amusing.

The low standard of the article was picked up on - typical internet 'journalism'. A hack article on a bizarre event. That was the butt of the joke. The event was also tragic but being sombre on an internet forum thousands of miles away does absolutely nothing to reverse that. So I don't really know what those posters are calling for.

It's one thing not to like or not to identify with something somebody else writes on an internet forum.

It's quite another thing to demand that everyone feels a certain correct way about an incident as you perceive it. That is just thought police nonsense. It doesn't belong anywhere on the internet, least of all on After Hours which has years of tradition of a wry, tongue-in-cheek look at the world that refuses to leave the path of any sacred cow.

Long may that continue.

Tact.

Yes, nobody laughed at the child's death.
A story about a child's presumable death will be emotive.
It's the cancer of AH. Everyone's a comedian. Get a quip in asap. Bask in the Thanks received.
Getting uppity about being called out for bad taste is not being on some high horse.