ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDADI dead?

Autonomous Cowherd

Again?
I know it is reported from time to time, but some trickles coming through to suggest he has been killed by Syrian/Russian strikes.

I do not know if this is true.

People will say even if he is dead that he is only one head on the Hydra, but then again sometimes if a notorious leader is removed an organisation will begin to decay.

Perhaps unreliable sources , I know..but here goes.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-killed-in-us-led-airstrikes-in-syria-reports-2851993/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-8186324

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=162_1465831152

irishguitarlad

Who?

xabi

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Who?

ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDAADI

Autonomous Cowherd

Or US led coalition forces air strike, depending on which source.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-killed-in-us-led-coalition-air-strike/1/691291.html

The flying mouse

xabi wrote: »

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Who?

ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDAADI

Who is he I can't open the links

xabi

Head of ISIS

The flying mouse

Ah ****, I thought he played for Belgium:|

kneemos

Too many vowels.

Richard Hillman

Wonderful news. The group will split into factions and canibalize each other. The first stage of the war willl be won within a year.

RobertKK

Hopefully he is dead, what he has brought to the world is destruction.

Hande hoche!

Hopefully by the end of the year, Raqqa, Mosul and Fallujah are liberated.

Frynge

Maybe isis will now go the way of RCA.

Autonomous Cowherd

I still cannot say for sure that the news is correct...I just thought i would give people a heads up, as to what is being suggested.

I have heard somewhere else that thousands of ISIL fighters have of late fled into hiding in Libya, so it is not going to be easy to break up this movement.

beach_walker

"If you think we were bad, just wait till you see what's coming after us."

- Larry Dunne Abu Bakr Al-Baghdaadi

kneemos

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Wonderful news. The group will split into factions and canibalize each other. The first stage of the war willl be won within a year.

Woohoo! Fantasy.

Lyaiera

There was a picture doing the rounds a few days ago of a woman in a previously ISIS controlled area, that had just been freed, removing her burqa and she looked thrilled.

Autonomous Cowherd

On Monday, media reports suggested that Baghdadi was killed in an airstrike that took place on Sunday, by a US-led coalition, near Raqqa in Northern Syria. A statement by al-Amaq said, ”Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been killed by coalition airstrikes on Raqqa on the fifth day of Ramadan”. However, no official confirmation has come from the coalition forces themselves.

http://www.india.com/news/world/isis-chief-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-confirmed-dead-arabic-mouthpiece-al-amaq-1258626/

Still no confirmation. I know it has been wrongly reported before that he has been killed. It is hard to know with so much surveillance possibilities out there how these individuals manage to evade strikes for so long.

Anyways, perhaps later it will be clearer whether true or not.

Autonomous Cowherd

kneemos wrote: »

Too many vowels.

Sorry about that, (my baad)
Maybe somewhere his name is spelled with extra A's. If someone can change the title that would be grand.

Autonomous Cowherd

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640726/ISIS-leader-Abu-Bakr-al-Baghdadi-killed-air-strike-Raqqa-according-pro-Islamic-State-news-agency.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Daily Mail reporting it now.

captbarnacles

Too easy for him but good riddance.

scream

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

I still cannot say for sure that the news is correct...I just thought i would give people a heads up, as to what is being suggested.

I have heard somewhere else that thousands of ISIL fighters have of late fled into hiding in Libya, so it is not going to be easy to break up this movement.

They'll be making their way from Libya to Europe now, with help from the Irish navy to ferry them across the Med. many of them may already be here. Despite the Irish medias best attempts to conceal it, the majority of ''refugees'' have been young, single military aged men. Then we can take them in as ''refugees'' who'll cost us 30+ thousand euro a year to maintain per person.

Autonomous Cowherd

So many places reporting it now...
eg
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/is-leader-abu-bakr-albaghdadi-killed-by-us-air-strike-in-raqqa/news-story/19fa4b58207f9f5e594b87052eaf594b

and yet NYTimes journalist says its all rumor (which, yes, technically it is).

The New York Times' Rukmini Callimachi notes 'There is no credible evidence that he's been killed. All rumor'

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi/

Superhorse

Odious c u n t of a human, pure evil that said i'd be very worried where all these Islamic radicals are going to end up once Al Raqqah, Mosul etc.. are "liberated".

Barry Badrinath

RIP

Taken from us too soon.

He's with the virgins now.

Inshallah

Autonomous Cowherd

McGruber wrote: »

RIP

Taken from us too soon.

He's with the virgins now.

Inshallah

Heh. Normally I wouldn't admit to laughing at that kind of thing, but there is so much right about that dry humour, and I admit I chuckled.

Anyways, could all be misleading. Maybe Al-Amaq was hacked, maybe it's a convenient rumour with Orlando, maybe he lives on another day to inspire his demonic companions.

Barry Badrinath

scream wrote: »

They'll be making their way from Libya to Europe now, with help from the Irish navy to ferry them across the Med. many of them may already be here. Despite the Irish medias best attempts to conceal it, the majority of ''refugees'' have been young, single military aged men. Then we can take them in as ''refugees'' who'll cost us 30+ thousand euro a year to maintain per person.

Can I just say, not all of the single military aged men are from AGAE's. The majority are ex-PGAE's.

There's no denying that ex-AGAE's are making their way across Europe but moreso to the fact they have lost their mojo for fighting and want out.....except they don't just let you pack a bag and leave.

They would rather kill you than let you go.

The_Valeyard

He will rise again as the zombie king. With an army of reusable zombie suicide bombers.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

Superhorse wrote: »

Odious c u n t of a human, pure evil that said i'd be very worried where all these Islamic radicals are going to end up once Al Raqqah, Mosul etc.. are "liberated".

Hopefully in a hole in the desert.

Dohnjoe

scream wrote: »

the majority of ''refugees'' have been young, single military aged men. Then we can take them in as ''refugees'' who'll cost us 30+ thousand euro a year to maintain per person.

It's common for the young men from these families in situations like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan to come over first, try to get established, then try to get their family over

The problem is that genuine war refugees get caught up with economic migrants who are also desperate to come over

On top of all that they have to deal with the stigma of being loathed when they arrive, all getting tarred with the same brush (they must be terrorists) and that they are "takin ar jerbs"




Anyway, it's unlikely Al-Baghdadi is dead until it's confirmed by a better source - and it will be very big news if he is

scream

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's common for the young men from these families in situations like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan to come over first, try to get established, then try to get their family over

The problem is that genuine war refugees get caught up with economic migrants who are also desperate to come over

On top of all that they have to deal with the stigma of being loathed when they arrive, all getting tarred with the same brush (they must be terrorists) and that they are "takin ar jerbs"




Anyway, it's unlikely Al-Baghdadi is dead until it's confirmed by a better source - and it will be very big news if he is

The cowardly bastards should stay in their own country and fight for themselves and their families, not come running to Europe with a sob story and a begging bowl. I'm not going to feign sympathy for them. Something has to be done, preferably in the form of housing them in UN camps in the Mid East and retraining them with practical skills to rebuild their countries, but importing millions of lunatic muslims is not the answer.

Dohnjoe

scream wrote: »

The cowardly bastards should stay in their own country and fight for themselves and their families

In Syria, these people are caught between a brutal Syrian army, who have no issues dropping barrel bombs on them and locking out aid convoys, causing many to starve, killing men of fighting age who try to avoid conscription. On the other side they have ISIS, dangerous rebel groups.

In between they have bandits, rapists and traffickers

And overhead they have nations like Russia bombing almost indiscriminately, and other nations bombing areas with ISIS causing civilian deaths

and this has been going on for 5 years

We had a brutal famine and your forefathers left the country in their hundreds of thousands

I am all for controlled immigration and better systems, but the sheer ignorance in your post is stunning

Iwasfrozen

RIH

Rot in Hell, I hope God is real because Al Baghdadi has a lot to answer for.

scream

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Syria, these people are caught between a brutal Syrian army, who have no issues dropping barrel bombs on them and locking out aid convoys, causing many to starve, killing men of fighting age who try to avoid conscription. On the other side they have ISIS, dangerous rebel groups.

In between they have bandits, rapists and traffickers

And overhead they have nations like Russia bombing almost indiscriminately, and other nations bombing areas with ISIS causing civilian deaths

and this has been going on for 5 years

We had a brutal famine and your forefathers left the country in their hundreds of thousands

I am all for controlled immigration and better systems, but the sheer ignorance in your post is stunning

People managed to fight and endure the horrors of 2 world wars, it's what one does, well any man or woman with balls does. Plenty of Irish men and women went off voluntarily to involve themselves in those wars. Many of those same cowardly men are roaming Europe raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go.

Iwasfrozen

scream wrote: »

People managed to fight and endure the horrors of 2 world wars, it's what one does, well any man or woman with balls does. Plenty of Irish men and women went off voluntarily to involve themselves in those wars. Many of those same cowardly men are roaming Europe raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go.

I think you've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

Autonomous Cowherd

Well, in any event it seems that rumours of his demise may be (alas) premature. No confirmation.

scream

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I think you've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

Sadly not, I watch the news channels that cover these issues, unlike RTE and Sky news. Perhaps you should watch less GOT and get more informed on what's happening in the real world.

Stig Inge

Rip.

Iwasfrozen

scream wrote: »

Sadly not, I watch the news channels that cover these issues, unlike RTE and Sky news. Perhaps you should watch less GOT and get more informed on what's happening in the real world.

In the real world people don't "roam Europe raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go."

Dohnjoe

scream wrote: »

People managed to fight and endure the horrors of 2 world wars, it's what one does, well any man or woman with balls does.
Plenty of Irish men and women went off voluntarily to involve themselves in those wars.

WW2 was a conventional war fought between standing armies, millions were forced to flee the violence. Likewise in Syria millions have also been forced to flee the violence. That is one of the few similarities between two very different conflicts

The vast majority of Irish people elected to stay in the comfort of home during the war, not an option for many Syrians (or Afghans and Iraqis)

For many of these people their daily life is brutal in the extreme - trying to label them cowards and making tenuous links to men who enlisted in conventional armies 70 years ago is idiotic in the extreme

scream

Dohnjoe wrote: »

WW2 was a conventional war fought between standing armies, millions were forced to flee the violence. Likewise in Syria millions have also been forced to flee the violence. That is one of the few similarities between two very different conflicts

The vast majority of Irish people elected to stay in the comfort of home during the war, not an option for many Syrians (or Afghans and Iraqis)

For many of these people their daily life is brutal in the extreme - trying to label them cowards and making tenuous links to men who enlisted in conventional armies 70 years ago is idiotic in the extreme

Really, you are actually saying that men who run to Europe ahead of their families isn't a coward? We have very different opinions on what constitutes a man and what constitutes bravery.

scream

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

In the real world people don't "roam Europe raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go."

You clearly haven't been watching what's happening in Sweden and Germany.

Iwasfrozen

scream wrote: »

You clearly haven't been watching what's happening in Sweden and Germany.

I am. There aren't people "roaming" these countries " raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go."

scream

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I am. There aren't people "roaming" these countries " raping, molesting, assaulting and committing all sorts of crimes as they go."

You're just trollling now. I'm off now, I don't play with people who live under bridges.

Iwasfrozen

scream wrote: »

You're just trollling now. I'm off now, I don't play with people who live under bridges.

Yep. I'm trolling because I call you out on your bullshít.

Cya.

Dohnjoe

scream wrote: »

We have very different opinions on what constitutes a man and what constitutes bravery.

You are likely sitting at home, behind your keyboard, in a safe country, that presumably isn't in the midst of a meatgrinder of a civil war... specifically labelling war refugees (not immigrants, war refugees) as "cowards"..

because you are scared of them..

And lecturing us on "bravery", gowan outta that

scream

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You are likely sitting at home, behind your keyboard, in a safe country, that presumably isn't in the midst of a meatgrinder of a civil war... specifically labelling war refugees (not immigrants, war refugees) as "cowards"..

because you are scared of them..

And lecturing us on "bravery", gowan outta that

Yeah, they're all refugees.:rolleyes: Most of them aren't even Syrians ffs. Some people are so gullible, it would almost be comical if it weren't so expensive to indulge whatever misguided guilt or delusions you have about fugees.

Severard

The independent has stated that the claim is fake as the proof that the media outlets received was a digitally altered image:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-fake-propaganda-statement-sparks-false-reports-of-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadis-death-in-us-air-a7081576.html#gallery

N365

Severard wrote: »

The independent has stated that the claim is fake as the proof that the media outlets received was a digitally altered image:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-fake-propaganda-statement-sparks-false-reports-of-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadis-death-in-us-air-a7081576.html#gallery

Well that is a shame.

511

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Syria, these people are caught between a brutal Syrian army, who have no issues dropping barrel bombs on them and locking out aid convoys, causing many to starve, killing men of fighting age who try to avoid conscription. On the other side they have ISIS, dangerous rebel groups.

There's about 5 different groups:

• Assad's army - backed by Russia
• The Free Syrian Army - trained and armed by the US
• ISIS - funded by wealthy Arabs, trained by themselves and armed by the black market, along with weapons they captured from the Syria and Iraqi armies
• Western drone strikes
• The Kurds

The women, kids and old men should flee for Turkey or the nearest surrounding country, until the EU or the UN mobilize a force and invade Syria to create safe zones to protect the refuges, so that way we won't really have to deal with that cúnt who governs Turkey, Erdoğan.

Same goes for Libya nd should be the future method of dealing with war refugees.

Bringing them into Europe just isn't working:

We has ISIS members pretending to be refugees, so they could sneak in under the radar, which led to the massacre in France and Belgium.

We had mass sexual assaults in various European cities; most notably Cologne. Mots of these predators were of North African descent and I don't believe any of them were form Libya, which is the only North African country at war.

We have nowhere to put them. The Channel 4 documentary a few back showed us that London is full. This Guardian article will show you that immigrants have took their jobs and they're pissed off at the Labour party for abandoning them.

In the Netherlands, the Labour party have lost massive support, which I presume is for abandoning their white working class voter base.

Sweden is packed, they closed their boarders late last year and also have a housing crisis. About a quarter of the Swedes want to strongly restrict immigration and believe Swedish multiculturalism has been a failure.

Labarbapostiza

Superhorse wrote: »

Odious c u n t of a human, pure evil that said i'd be very worried where all these Islamic radicals are going to end up once Al Raqqah, Mosul etc.. are "liberated".

Finglas......


A whole new dimension to the Kinahan-Hutch feud...Siht just got real

The Rape of Lucretia

Who's your Al-Baghdadi now Abu Bakr ?
Whooooooooooooo's you Al-Baghdadi ?