Royal Ascot

Peintre Celebre

Possibly my favourite race meeting of the year. Have been backing Pique Sous for the Ascot stakes in singles and some multiples including Lucida at 8/1 looks big in the Duke of Cambridge. Think Kellstorm at 5/1 for the Queen's Vase could look big come the day he's a lovely big galloper and the further he goes the better. Ervedya looks an e/w bet to nothing at 6/1 in the queen Anne I'd be keen to take on Tepin.

And of course have some of them included with Nyquist for the BC classic at 14/1 a clear indication of Sky's disregard for money

Harry Angstrom

Will be taking on the Japanese horse in the Prince of Wales with Time Test. I liked the way he won the Brigadier Gerard at Sandown.

akelly02

nemoralia in the fillies race for me.

Harry Angstrom

akelly02 wrote: »

nemoralia in the fillies race for me.

Same here. Very impressed with her York run. Ballydoyle looks well worth taking on.

akelly02

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Same here. Very impressed with her York run. Ballydoyle looks well worth taking on.

agree

BumperD

Would love to hear people's NAP's for the meeting so we can assemble a monster accum

tryfix

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Possibly my favourite race meeting of the year. Have been backing Pique Sous for the Ascot stakes in singles and some multiples including Lucida at 8/1 looks big in the Duke of Cambridge. Think Kellstorm at 5/1 for the Queen's Vase could look big come the day he's a lovely big galloper and the further he goes the better. Ervedya looks an e/w bet to nothing at 6/1 in the queen Anne I'd be keen to take on Tepin.

And of course have some of them included with Nyquist for the BC classic at 14/1 a clear indication of Sky's disregard for money

Agree that Tepin has to be taken. No drug? advantage here for her ( if she had been on them in the US ) and she didn't beat much in the Breeders Cup Mile.

There's got to be something more than 2 1/2l better than Mondialiste in the field. If the ground isn't too firm Belardo should be up to that and he likes Ascot as does Esoterique who's available at big prices.

Pinesky

Ground is more likely to be on the easy rather than the fast side . Strong word for Endless Drama on ATR today .

Harry Angstrom

Pinesky wrote: »

Ground is more likely to be on the easy rather than the fast side . Strong word for Endless Drama on ATR today .

Ground dries out fairly quickly at Ascot though, especially on the straight course.

DylanAFC

Acapulco in the Commonwealth Cup for me.

Edit: hadn't seen the news that she's gonna run the Kings Stand. I'll still have have a small cut off her.

madmoose

Ervedeva - Queen Anne
Acapulco - Kings Stand
Time Test - POW
Galileo Gold - SJP
Mehmas - Coventry
Max Dynamite - Gold Cup
Create a Dream - Albany Stakes
Wicklow Brave - Hardwicke Stakes

Done those above antepost, the best prices i got were Time Test 12/1 and Ervedeva 8/1.

Lt Dan

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Will be taking on the Japanese horse in the Prince of Wales with Time Test. I liked the way he won the Brigadier Gerard at Sandown.

The Japanese fella bet no one in the French Group 1 race the last day. Bar New Bay (1st time out) there was no Group 1 quality horse in the race. Winning on bad ground was impressive, but I often wonder how good are the French horses - including New Bay, who apparently has hoof problems .The French do little when they go to the UK, Solow and Goldikova being exceptions (and the odd guineas and QE II performer)

The only worry about Time Test is what will the ground be like. Would prefer Moore riding rather than Frankie

Personally, punting wise, this is my Cheltenham. Sadly , the weather is going to feck up my usual old reliable (though I think the might Sole Power is finished anyway) .We might not even see Air Force Blue is the ground is bad

For what it is worth (and not alot) Day 1 , based on what the ground might be like I go for the following

Queen Anne - Like Animal Kingdom in 2013(dirt horse) , I expect the American horse Tepin (who is a proper turf horse) to flop without the nose piece and drugs, and a straight course . Soft ground might be okay as it was in Keenland. I would prefer to see the Atzeni keep the ride on the Lockigne winner, Belardo. Delighted to see Peslier getting back on Amazing Maria and she ran well the last day. I am going for Amazing Maria each way if the ground is good, but I think Erveda is the one to beat (contrary to what I said about the French above) . If the ground is really bad, Varian will be happy

King Stand will be between Mecca's Angel and maybe , Profitable if the ground is soft. Like the Dante is to the Derby, the Newmarket Palace House Stakes is the best prep race for the King's Stand. Cotai Glory with a better jockey would not be a bad each way bet. All depends on the draw. Still going to put a tiny each way bet on Sole Power at 14/1 , no chance but........ wait for the announcement of the draw.

St James will be a cracker as I think Galileo Gold would not mind too much a soft ground. Maybe he got into battle too early at the Curragh, also (though the winner looked like winning well out), doing the Guineas double is tough. This is the one race that most horses won't be worried about the ground, best race of Day 1, maybe the week. If I was not punting, I would love to see Chris Hayes get a British Group 1

Ascot Stakes - If Mullins horse Pique Sous wins, I will eat my hat (and then call for Mullins to get a Sainthood) . He has been out for way too long & has to carry a big weight (Yes, I know, this is nothing for Mullins, he has done it before). Was a one time Gold Cup hope. Maybe, Silver Concorde (who also has to carry a big weight) shall finally do the job and win a decent race. Definitely will be interested to see Starchitect takes his chances (as per the Racing Post declarations). Should get the trip and has a nice weight. He was not a bad hurdler , if he runs, he will be my each way shout. Gordon Elliot & Fran Berry (he has a good record in this race) has a horse called ESHTIAAL, Only one who has run this distance! Not sure about the ground but should not be ignored as Silver Concorde is not reliable or guaranteed to get the distance

Day 2
Prince of Wales: Another cracking race. Western Hymn can not be ruled out despite the fact that he failed to beat Time Test on his favorite track and having less weight. Western Hymn is down for the Hardwicke too, so better off getting him back into the habit of winning. Remember, although he has ran twice this season, he had an illness in the winer. If the ground is soft, I doubt Time Test will run that would be a disaster for him. O'Brien seems to be flogging Found at the moment. If she runs, despite running at Epsom, she might win this (if Time Test does not show up) Pity there is no big fillies race for her at this time of the year, bar the Pretty Polly but she will be running with a huge weight and maybe 12f is her thing rather than 10f. If the Ground is good, Time Test should win - No doubt there will be a sizable Japanese contingent in the crowd and like the way they carry on at the Arc (Freaks with a capital F) will be crying , waving scarfs, holding pictures etc to their new symbol of Japan (a bit like the causals who supported Frankel on his last run - dear god!). Lol

Day 3

Ascot Gold Cup - Boring choice but , Order of St George if he runs, I see he is down for the Hardwicke too - maybe run for the King George? Hardly based on the route O'Brien sends his Leger horses . Not sure if Max Dynamite is anything but a 16 f horse or is a horse who likes soft ground - best form seems to be on good ground, would prefer Charlton's horse (Northumberland winner) if that was the case. Pallasator is my each way choice, will get the trip, and there will not be an animal in sight that would be safe if hunting enthusiast Prescott wins; maybe young Oisin will get his first Group 1

Hardwicke - Should be one of Stoute's horses, Dartmoor or Exopshere , but with the latter he was never that consistent. Which ever one Moore rides (though would be happy for Smullen to ride the latter)

Pinesky

Clerk of the course reports ground could be good to soft straight course and good to soft soft in places round course for Tuesday but if expected rain materializes it will be soft all over .

Johner

Acapulco will more than likely go too quick and set it up for something, think it will suit Profitable who ran well at Ascot last year and looks a different animal this season.

Like a few others I'm very sweet on Nemoralia.

Lt Dan

Johner wrote: »

Acapulco will more than likely go too quick and set it up for something, think it will suit Profitable who ran well at Ascot last year and looks a different animal this season.

Like a few others I'm very sweet on Nemoralia.

The difference though is that Acapulco will have a British Jockey on him and not an American (regular jockey is good, to be fair, so long as it is in the US)

Agree with Profitable, but, would wait to see what horses are drawn where, for betting purposes.

For a sentimental point of view, despite the ground (did win at the Curragh - though the opponents were not great), Sole Power would love a fast pace and drawn next to them, but, his days are probably up. Still think Moore gave Sole Power a crap ride in Newmarket as he managed to get the horse bumped - then again, Sole Power's style of racing leads to incidents like that happening at some point.

Lt Dan

Not sure if this helps, at least Ascot is a good draining ground, beginning to regret already putting on some of my bets (even if they were on horses who will not mind bad ground ), thank god for each way

http://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/weather.aspx?q=sl5

http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/ascot/sl5-7/daily-weather-forecast/331506?day=6

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/forecast/uk/Ascot,Berkshire

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcps2xe58

Doubt Time Test will run in that. Would be surprised if Gold Dream (who is young and still has time to win big races) and Sole Power will run in the King's Stand with that ground (Eddy might, but not Cowell)

Order of St George will love this and will probably be odds on, but will still stay with Pallastor for the Gold Cup. I see Prescott has another horse for the Ascot Stakes and a low weight,hmmm

Harry Angstrom

The ground is really going to fcuk things up for punters. My confidence in Time Test and Nemoralia has disappeared, but on the other hand Meccas Angel and Awtaad will relish the soft ground on the opening day, and I can see Order of St George going off at odds on for the Gold Cup once Tabor and co. get stuck in. Well worth taking the Evens or 11/10 currently available. The Gold Cup looks poor enough and Order of St George looks a class above this lot especially on the ground.

Peintre Celebre

Hope it dries out a bit for Pique Sous. Not so concerned about Ervedya. I fancy St George for the Arc personally but would rather if it were at Longchamp

Lt Dan

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The ground is really going to fcuk things up for punters. My confidence in Time Test and Nemoralia has disappeared, but on the other hand Meccas Angel and Awtaad will relish the soft ground on the opening day, and I can see Order of St George going off at odds on for the Gold Cup once Tabor and co. get stuck in. Well worth taking the Evens or 11/10 currently available. The Gold Cup looks poor enough and Order of St George looks a class above this lot especially on the ground.

Time Test most certainly will not run

tryfix

Lt Dan wrote: »

The Japanese fella bet no one in the French Group 1 race the last day. Bar New Bay (1st time out) there was no Group 1 quality horse in the race. Winning on bad ground was impressive, but I often wonder how good are the French horses - including New Bay, who apparently has hoof problems .The French do little when they go to the UK, Solow and Goldikova being exceptions (and the odd guineas and QE II performer)

The only worry about Time Test is what will the ground be like. Would prefer Moore riding rather than Frankie

Personally, punting wise, this is my Cheltenham. Sadly , the weather is going to feck up my usual old reliable (though I think the might Sole Power is finished anyway) .We might not even see Air Force Blue is the ground is bad

For what it is worth (and not alot) Day 1 , based on what the ground might be like I go for the following

Queen Anne - Like Animal Kingdom in 2013(dirt horse) , I expect the American horse Tepin (who is a proper turf horse) to flop without the nose piece and drugs, and a straight course . Soft ground might be okay as it was in Keenland. I would prefer to see the Atzeni keep the ride on the Lockigne winner, Belardo. Delighted to see Peslier getting back on Amazing Maria and she ran well the last day. I am going for Amazing Maria each way if the ground is good, but I think Erveda is the one to beat (contrary to what I said about the French above) . If the ground is really bad, Varian will be happy

King Stand will be between Mecca's Angel and maybe , Profitable if the ground is soft. Like the Dante is to the Derby, the Newmarket Palace House Stakes is the best prep race for the King's Stand. Cotai Glory with a better jockey would not be a bad each way bet. All depends on the draw. Still going to put a tiny each way bet on Sole Power at 14/1 , no chance but........ wait for the announcement of the draw.

St James will be a cracker as I think Galileo Gold would not mind too much a soft ground. Maybe he got into battle too early at the Curragh, also (though the winner looked like winning well out), doing the Guineas double is tough. This is the one race that most horses won't be worried about the ground, best race of Day 1, maybe the week. If I was not punting, I would love to see Chris Hayes get a British Group 1

Ascot Stakes - If Mullins horse Pique Sous wins, I will eat my hat (and then call for Mullins to get a Sainthood) . He has been out for way too long & has to carry a big weight (Yes, I know, this is nothing for Mullins, he has done it before). Was a one time Gold Cup hope. Maybe, Silver Concorde (who also has to carry a big weight) shall finally do the job and win a decent race. Definitely will be interested to see Starchitect takes his chances (as per the Racing Post declarations). Should get the trip and has a nice weight. He was not a bad hurdler , if he runs, he will be my each way shout. Gordon Elliot & Fran Berry (he has a good record in this race) has a horse called ESHTIAAL, Only one who has run this distance! Not sure about the ground but should not be ignored as Silver Concorde is not reliable or guaranteed to get the distance

Day 2
Prince of Wales: Another cracking race. Western Hymn can not be ruled out despite the fact that he failed to beat Time Test on his favorite track and having less weight. Western Hymn is down for the Hardwicke too, so better off getting him back into the habit of winning. Remember, although he has ran twice this season, he had an illness in the winer. If the ground is soft, I doubt Time Test will run that would be a disaster for him. O'Brien seems to be flogging Found at the moment. If she runs, despite running at Epsom, she might win this (if Time Test does not show up) Pity there is no big fillies race for her at this time of the year, bar the Pretty Polly but she will be running with a huge weight and maybe 12f is her thing rather than 10f. If the Ground is good, Time Test should win - No doubt there will be a sizable Japanese contingent in the crowd and like the way they carry on at the Arc (Freaks with a capital F) will be crying , waving scarfs, holding pictures etc to their new symbol of Japan (a bit like the causals who supported Frankel on his last run - dear god!). Lol

Day 3

Ascot Gold Cup - Boring choice but , Order of St George if he runs, I see he is down for the Hardwicke too - maybe run for the King George? Hardly based on the route O'Brien sends his Leger horses . Not sure if Max Dynamite is anything but a 16 f horse or is a horse who likes soft ground - best form seems to be on good ground, would prefer Charlton's horse (Northumberland winner) if that was the case. Pallasator is my each way choice, will get the trip, and there will not be an animal in sight that would be safe if hunting enthusiast Prescott wins; maybe young Oisin will get his first Group 1

Hardwicke - Should be one of Stoute's horses, Dartmoor or Exopshere , but with the latter he was never that consistent. Which ever one Moore rides (though would be happy for Smullen to ride the latter)

A Shin Hikari beat some decent horses the last day.

Dariyan OR 117 who was beaten by 10L in 2nd had won the Gp1 Prix Ganay on his last start beating The Corsican by 5 3/4L that day and The Corsican was a fast closing 4th beaten 3 1/4L behind Free Eagle in a top class POW last year as well as finishing a 4 1/2L 6th to Fascinating Rock on unsuitably Soft ground in last year's Gp 1 Champion Stakes at Ascot.

Dariyan's previous runs to that were twice behind the impressive Postponed beaten 5 1/2L and 3L in Meydan and previous to that he'd been beaten 3L by Highland Reel in Sha Tin.

Silverware The 3rd ( beaten 12 L) horse in the A Shin Hikari race had finished 2nd in the Prix Ganay and was only 5 1/4L behind Golden Horn in the ARC.

Vademos the 4th horse in the A Shin Hikari race beat Ervedya ( your Queen Anne fancy ) by an easy 3 1/2L the last day and was 1 1/2L behind the monster Solow on his previous start.

The 5th horse My dream Boat OR 117 beaten 14 1/2L gave Western Hymn a 1/4L beating on his previous run which was a length more than the ridiculously hyped Time Test managed to do.

The problem with A Shin Hikari's win in France is that it was too good to be true based on his previous form because if he's that good then he gave a 134-137 performance in France a better performance on paper than most of Frankel's runs which would be a huge step up on his previous form and frankly amazing.

Dermot Weld should have run Fascinating Rock on this ground in the POW.

Lt Dan

tryfix wrote: »

A Shin Hikari beat some decent horses the last day.

Dariyan OR 117 who was beaten by 10L in 2nd had won the Gp1 Prix Ganay on his last start beating The Corsican by 5 3/4L that day and The Corsican was a fast closing 4th beaten 3 1/4L behind Free Eagle in a top class POW last year as well as finishing a 4 1/2L 6th to Fascinating Rock on unsuitably Soft ground in last year's Gp 1 Champion Stakes at Ascot.

Dariyan's previous runs to that were twice behind the impressive Postponed beaten 5 1/2L and 3L in Meydan and previous to that he'd been beaten 3L by Highland Reel in Sha Tin.

Silverware The 3rd ( beaten 12 L) horse in the A Shin Hikari race had finished 2nd in the Prix Ganay and was only 5 1/4L behind Golden Horn in the ARC.

Vademos the 4th horse in the A Shin Hikari race beat Ervedya ( your Queen Anne fancy ) by an easy 3 1/2L the last day and was 1/2L behind the monster Solow on Hus previous start.

The 5th horse My dream Boat OR 117 beaten 14L gave Western Hymn a 1/4L beating on his previous run which was a length more than the ridiculously hyped Time Test managed to do.

The problem with A Shin Hikari's win in France is that it was too good to be true based on his previous form because if he's that good then he gave a 134-137 performance in France a better performance on paper than most of Frankel's runs which would be a huge step up on his previous form.

Dermot Weld should have run Fascinating Rock on this ground in the POW.

The Japanese horse : "decent" but not Group 1 calibre , bar New Bay . (yes I know that the Agha Khans horse won the earlier Group 1 race in April but one won't see most of them anywhere near the Arc, and maybe not even the Prix Neuil or the other prestigious G2 Arc Trial )

The Coriscan is not a Group 1 horse. Neither of Welds horses are /were world beaters

While it is absolutely possible that the Japan could win the Prince of Wales, regardless of the ground as none of the opponents ae certainties, it certainly is a lot harder and better race than that race in France. The weather messes everything up though

Personally,right or wrong, I take what goes on in Dubai at time of year with a pinch of salt. Postponed should be grand this year in most of the races pre Arc. This years Colt divison ,so far does not look great I am not into bashing horses performances during the end of season in the US or Hong Kong either (ironically too important to be treated as after thoughts)

Anyway the level of International particiaption this year is great .Shame the weather might mess things up with non runners

Wicklow Brave

One bet so far and it's Awtaad in the SJP. Probably be my biggest bet of the week.

tipptom

Get on Slatterys horse in the first at Roscommon to build up a few bob for Ascot week,supposed to be a bit special.

Lt Dan

Well that is my week of enjoyment ruined. Ascot is going to be rubbish. Lesser horses are going to win big races. Feel sorry for those who traveled over and now are pulling out

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=17669124&category=0



Sole Power (lads, he had a great drawn and would have been were the pace was - we can always dream) and Time Test are out -

Might go for Western Hymn in the POW - sneaking suspicion Found could win - no reason for it

Acapulco is out

Poor auld Covert Love has retired

mick malones mauser

tipptom wrote: »

Get on Slatterys horse in the first at Roscommon to build up a few bob for Ascot week,supposed to be a bit special.

Well done thanks

WinnerAlright

Some of my views for tomorrow, think Jungle Cat has come in in price to 20/1.

Kings Stand Stakes

While Mecca’s Angel and Profitable have seen plenty of support over the weekend due to the rain, both prices seem skinny enough and I am inclined to look further down the market. Jungle Cat has been rested since a close second to Profitable in the Palace House Stakes and his price at 20/1 seems decent value.

1pt EW Jungle Cat 22/1 BOG (BetVictor/Coral)

St. James Palace Stakes

The Gurkha may prove himself to be the top 3yo miler this summer but I think his current price is too short considering the strength of the field behind him. Despite winning easily on soft ground at Navan earlier this year, I still think he’ll prove his best on a proper good to firm surface.

Awtaad would have been the bet but has come under increased support over the past few days and moved into a price which in my mind is too short.

That brings me on to Galileo Gold, the 2000 Guineas winner before being dethroned in the Irish equivalent by Awtaad. Nonetheless, I am a big fan of Hugo Palmer who his having what I hope is a great season of many to come and I am willing to take a chance on his horse again.

2pt EW Galileo Gold 6/1 BOG (BetVictor, Paddy Power, Boyles)

Windsor Castle Stakes

In the closing race of Tuesday I am again siding with Hugo Palmer and taking a chance on Copper Knight to bounce back after his disappointment at Sandown. He was unlucky not to win his first two races before getting ahead impressively at Chester and I think once his unorthodox style in the closing stages are sorted, Copper Knight will progress along nicely

1pt Win Copper Knight 25/1 BOG (Bet365, BetVictor)

Lt Dan

Bets are put on , now to jinx myself - My tips are based on the premises that (a) Godolpin despite throwing 15 out there tomorrow will not win (b) neither O'Brien and or Moore will win my selected races - frankly all three are bound to win some of them so I am screwed

Queen Anne - Erveda -but no longer entirely confident dispute not think much about the colts, was not that encourage by her last run. I think Fabre's horse will at least place at 7-1 is tempting. Danger is Belardo but James Doyle is one so would not worry greatly (his record on him ain't great) Knowing my luck, with this weather, and Moore ability to at least have his horse fighting for a place, something awful like Cougar Mountain at 28/1 will place and even lose by a nose or worse (and this is not entirely implausible) Toormore with Buick wins

Kings Stand - No real punt here. Frankly, since he is a gelding (little to loose as he won't be wining the July Cup), and despite his current form I think Sole Power is not that bad on soft ground and he had a nice high draw (isn't that on the rail?) Ground must be really bad . I am going for Profitable. Someone mentioned Jungle Cat - great call. I think , maybe with Frankie on board and a high draw, away from Profitable and Mecca's Angle , Waady is a good each way bet.

Ascot Stakes - Went with Silver Concorde based on how he should have won at Chester. But that is a lot weight to carry at a distance he is unproven in. Also he is favorite, not good. Each way bet, I think Gordon Elliot's E****aal horse has a great shot and Fran Berry's record in this race is excellent. Do not know why ,but I put a small each way bet on Mark Prescott's horse as well.

St James Stakes Galileo Gold - hopefully Frankie is on his game. 3 races in 6 weeks though....... bha

posturingpat

Lt Dan wrote: »

Bets are put on , now to jinx myself - My tips are based on the premises that (a) Godolpin despite throwing 15 out there tomorrow will not win (b) neither O'Brien and or Moore will win my selected races - frankly all three are bound to win some of them so I am screwed

Queen Anne - Erveda -but no longer entirely confident dispute not think much about the colts, was not that encourage by her last run. I think Fabre's horse will at least place at 7-1 is tempting. Danger is Belardo but James Doyle is one so would not worry greatly (his record on him ain't great) Knowing my luck, with this weather, and Moore ability to at least have his horse fighting for a place, something awful like Cougar Mountain at 28/1 will place and even lose by a nose or worse (and this is not entirely implausible) Toormore with Buick wins

Kings Stand - No real punt here. Frankly, since he is a gelding (little to loose as he won't be wining the July Cup), and despite his current form I think Sole Power is not that bad on soft ground and he had a nice high draw (isn't that on the rail?) Ground must be really bad . I am going for Profitable. Someone mentioned Jungle Cat - great call. I think , maybe with Frankie on board and a high draw, away from Profitable and Mecca's Angle , Waady is a good each way bet.

Ascot Stakes - Went with Silver Concorde based on how he should have won at Chester. But that is a lot weight to carry at a distance he is unproven in. Also he is favorite, not good. Each way bet, I think Gordon Elliot's E****aal horse has a great shot and Fran Berry's record in this race is excellent. Do not know why ,but I put a small each way bet on Mark Prescott's horse as well.

St James Stakes Galileo Gold - hopefully Frankie is on his game. 3 races in 6 weeks though....... bha

Will they not all hate the ground?

Shane732

posturingpat wrote: »

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Will they not all hate the ground?

Ground is going to be a nightmare...

Galileo Gold is a massive price @ 7/1. I don't think Galileo Gold will turn the tables, particularly with the ground but the prices look nuts.

Meeca's Angel, Awtaad and Caravaggio to get the week off to a good start

I'm over there on Saturday.

gazza1

Going with a these ew and an ew double

Endless Drama 6/1 2.30
Jennies Jewel 7/1 5.00

GL2A

Backstreet Moyes

Endless drama travelled so strongly last day until tyring on first run of the season, will be much sharper today must have a great chance

Lt Dan

posturingpat wrote: »

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Will they not all hate the ground?

I think my selections would not have completely hated it but now , I am not so sure

Like I said, I am screwed, had put some of these bets on earlier, knowing that it would be soft. I think Galileo Gold will be okay on soft. It was soft at Newmarket - the ground , for me, is not really the reason that I am worried about him

Silver Concorde, I have lost all faith in. Elliot's lad, that was a small each way selection, not sure he would win even with his favored ground, he will definitely stay and has less weight to carry.

Bha today will be *********

krustydoyle

Had a little look through todays card and went with these

Endless Drama 2.30
Van Der Decken (ew) 3.05
Profitable 3.40
Jennies Jewel 5.00
Estiaal (ew) 5.00

All for small stakes because of the ground and just to have an interest

tryfix

The Gurkha's form in France has been boosted by the Gp winning and French Derby placed performances since of those he thrashed that day and on collateral form he has a few lengths in hand of Awtaad today. It's the race of the meeting with Awtaad having his ground in the battle of the Guineas winners but The Ghurka was very impressive on soft ground in Navan so he should have no excuses and should win comfortably.

faoile@n

tryfix wrote: »

The Gurkha's form in France has been boosted by the Gp winning and French Derby placed performances since of those he thrashed that day and on collateral form he has a few lengths in hand of Awtaad today. It's the race of the meeting with Awtaad having his ground in the battle of the Guineas winners but The Ghurka was very impressive on soft ground in Navan so he should have no excuses and should win comfortably.

Soft ground form in the Irish Guineas>>>>Soft ground form in a Navan maiden.

Awtaad beat the English 2000 guineas winner whereas The Gurkha won a maiden. There was also a massive front running bias that day at Navan and he got the run of the race.

Sure The Gurkha may win but to declare he should win comfortable based on the Navan run is folly imo.

Peintre Celebre

faoile@n wrote: »

Soft ground form in the Irish Guineas>>>>Soft ground form in a Navan maiden.

Awtaad beat the English 2000 guineas winner whereas The Gurkha won a maiden. There was also a massive front running bias that day at Navan and he got the run of the race.

Sure The Gurkha may win but to declare he should win comfortable based on the Navan run is folly imo.

You totally ignored the French Guineas in your post

Harry Angstrom

Like the look of Belardo here.

krustydoyle

Mick Fitz must have something on one of the producers for channel 4.. Because he's talks absolute muck..

Johner

Tepin machine!

Peintre Celebre

That was a nice performance

Gringo180

Won with a bit in hand as well.

Gregk961

Top performance, really fancied Belardo to go past and pull away there.

Lt Dan

krustydoyle wrote: »

Mick Fitz must have something on one of the producers for channel 4.. Because he's talks absolute muck..

What did he say now?

Peintre Celebre

12 minutes to the Coventry and they are yet to even mention it, instead switching to Cock Wan for fashion news. And they wonder why viewers are so low

Johner

Hugh Taylor seems sweet on Caravaggio, looks a bit short for my liking.

I'm going to chance Mehmas back at 6f at 9/1.

Peintre Celebre

This is a good punt on Caravaggio

Harry Angstrom

Pissing down again.

Gregk961

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

12 minutes to the Coventry and they are yet to even mention it, instead switching to Cock Wan for fashion news. And they wonder why viewers are so low

They went to Gok a few minutes into the program, had hardly mentioned a horse and they were introducing the fashion reporter. Could they not just do 1 segment towards the end for the people that enjoy that sort of thing(I assume there must be a few) instead of popping back and forth all day to him.

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Johner

Johner wrote: »

Hugh Taylor seems sweet on Caravaggio, looks a bit short for my liking.

I'm going to chance Mehmas back at 6f at 9/1.

Ah I'll take that.

I said

Serious turn of foot despite hanging